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  1. Idk. 2nd looks short. But you should go with the one that feels best for you. Do a test ride if possible.

  2. Both are the right size.

    You absolutely need a bike fit though. First bike is closer right off the bat, but you’re loading your hands and shoulders a little. Second one needs the saddle position fixed, seems too far forward and probably too high.

    It’s almost impossible to fit someone over the internet but a local professional will be able to help you out for sure.

  3. I second 2, saddle is a bit high on both, but unless you plan on racing, shorter reach is so much nicer in the comfort department
    Edit: the larger bike with a shorter stem may be better for handling on rough terrain, but for most other purposes purple looks more comfortable

  4. IndependentDeer1234 on

    1. Your arm angle is closer to 90° and your saddle isn’t so high that you have to reach downward for the bars.

  5. Is there no way you can ride the bikes anywhere, local canal paths, trails or anything to get a feel of them and check the comfortability of each bike etc..?

  6. Quirky_Foundation800 on

    >>It’s almost impossible to fit someone over the internet but a local professional will be able to help you out for sure.

    **Why isn’t this everyone’s reply?!**

    I cringe hard every time I see a message like this.

  7. ThisusernameThen on

    R/bike fit

    Or as the best post below said

    Go get your LBS to advise if not fully fit you. Best upgrade u can do

  8. #2 looks like a Cosmic Stallion GRX? At that price point (assuming new), I’d recommend dropping another $100-200 for a professional bike fit, then use that info to get the right bike.

    It took me years riding bikes that were either the wrong size or set up incorrectly (saddle position and reach in particular) to learn this lesson. Could’ve saved myself some knee, back and shoulder pain if I’d done it sooner…

  9. Panic_Careless on

    With the All City your arms looks more relaxed. Also that paint job is amazing. I would go for the all city

  10. EqualOrganization726 on

    They’re both decent fitting bikes but the major difference is cockpit fit which can easily be changed with a shorter or longer stem. The all city looks like a better fit but if the coop is considerably cheaper than I’d save my money, put it towards upgrades and enjoy being covered by the REI warranty which is and always will be one of the best in the us.

  11. BatangTundo3112 on

    Well. You should not have shown the brand. Bike 2 is prettier and looks good in form.😏

  12. CompleteTraining521 on

    Well as a professional amateur cyclist riding on local city bike paths and trails for 20 plus years and building and repairing my personal and neighbors bikes for 10 plus year with no formal training and education I recommend going to a bike shop to be sized. 👨🏻‍🏫

  13. Besides the caveats of, “it depends, and you need a professional fitting”…first blush response is bike 1 fits you better. No 2 looks too small for you, with geometry scrunched.

  14. Drop your saddle so at the bottom of your pedal stoke you can drop your heel all the way down. You can ride with your saddle higher then this, but it’s a good starting point especially if you’re riding off road and you need some room to move around. It should also allow you to get a little arm bend on the co-op. You don’t want to be stretched to your limits anywhere.

  15. The Coop looks like the right fit, but I see it has a super-short stem on it. So the All-City would probably work too with a longer stem.

  16. I used to sell the co-op bikes, and they do come from REI with a slightly more aggressive seating position. You have changed the stem which will help but the riding position will probably always be more aggressive than some other gravel bikes.

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