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How did Lance Armstrong lose seven Tour de France titles without ever failing the drug test that brought him down? In this episode, Anthony Walsh puts on his barrister’s hat and breaks down the legal ruling that ended Armstrong’s career. From sworn testimony and blood evidence to backdated prescriptions, hidden payments and questions of due process, we examine the case against Armstrong — and ask whether the process that convicted him was actually fair.
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44 Comments
Very good video.
After surviving the cancer he had, a part me feels like what Lance accomplished (even cheating) in the hardest sport is still nothing short of amazing ! BUT how he cheated with all the dramatized antics of denial is horrible enough and to learn just how big of an arrogant asshole he is , makes me not to want to hear anymore shit about him
Thank you for clarifying this case Lance Armstrong gets a lot of hate for all that he accomplished. I would like to think that he could have kept five of the seven based on the statute of limitations. However Johanne going down is not reassuring. I think in the far future he will be reinstated it is odd to leave it blank.
Doping was just a tiny fraction of his offenses. Sadly, he didn't break any laws in most of the other moral offenses. You don't lie, steal and cheat and try to justify it because you believe other's are doing it. He betrayed millions of US fans that believed in him and stood by him. He destroyed friends and friends of friends as well as his own family members. His poor mother! He's still unapologetic and seems extremely narcissistic and arrogant. He said sorry on Oprah's show but seemed very insincere and just trying to keep a few sponsors and their money. People in society are now so immoral they see nothing wrong with what he did.
Thanks Anthony.
He was the best of a bad bunch.
Can't really hand anything down to the top few as they all peed in the same pot. As far as I know Lance didn't drop others in the shine unlike several other spineless riders.
I'm really tired of this/to me I don't practically like the guy/I see him as a bully and whatever/but he rode no matter he was doped up or not doped up he rode like everyone and that race the tour the France they all rode their bikes/to say those seven years are empty is foolishness, Lance Armstrong dead when seven tours, like it or not he rode his bicycle those seven years like everyone there to strip him and not give anybody the title/tells you everything, it's time to stop the pettiness and just give him back his seven wins with a mark on it seven wins with D second place with D third place with D everybody that race those seven years with a D, for drugs/who knows what's happening today the fastest of the fastest tours, give me a break
Of course he should not keep any of his TdF wins. And it's a total and complete disgrace that he's been offered a platform (and most likely money?) to talk about cycling again.
Great episode!
I don't like LA because he DOPED. I have no illusion that other teams were doing the same type of things in order to remain competitive during that era. I don't like him because he used his money to BULLY those who spoke against him. It would have been one thing to say nothing or simply dismiss the "whistle blowers"…but to ACTIVELY go after them and their families is where I draw the line. TO THIS DAY he remains fundamentally un repentant for THAT aspect. Now, on the flipside, EVERYONE made money because of LA in the long run. EVEN all those he went after ended up writing books. ALL of his sponsors made BOATLOADS of money due to his winning 7Tdf's…which to me HE DID. Regardless of the "doping" HE spent YEARS on a bike training, suffering and all that goes with being a pro cyclist. There's NO DOUBT he was a top cyclist even without the juice(assuming all his competitors were also clean) and lets also face the fact that had he been French…he'd STILL have his victories.
Lance always emphasized his lactate threshold being uniquely "above normal." Greg LeMond is famously known for being a Vo2 max "as a determiner" acolyte. Greg's argument, which I believe I heard at least once, is that Lance was particularly benefited by EPO / blood doping. That's speculation, of course, but is an interesting argument–not that "everyone/ most doped", but who received the most physiological efficacy from it–beyond the other variables. That's beyond any science we have, but interesting.
You can strip him from the results but he still won 7 tours fair and square.
I used to joke that I didnt care about his cheating, just that he seemed to cure his cancer, but I now believe that he never had cancer.
Good work man, I gave up competitive cycling in the Netherlands in the 80's. I was a decent athlete (from Australia). All because I was getting beaten by people on the juice, who I know I could have beaten, for me it was a morality thing. I could have easily rocked up to Dr Sanders and gotten some juice who had is practice just down the road from where I lived, but that's not me
Lance was and still is guilty of being an egotistical asshole. But the UCI was and is complicit and them burning him without any internal reflection was also garbage.
I was racing in Austin when Lance won his first tour. I had seen Lance ride many times. The change in his muscle structure was evident. I told my friends that he was doping. I quit watching the tour. It took many years before I could say, I told you so. His high cadence was impossible without doping.
Great video ,,,
LOL – blast from the past for the algorithm. Man needs to make a living so now you have a comment to feed the YouTube gods…LOL
Lance is Cycling Jesus. He had to be martyred to cleanse cycling of its sins.
NEW armstrong .. lawyered.. yadda.. No, "MY take on an old case".. I mean, we all know what happened, we should just forget that pathetic figure and instead press on with the directors that are still active.
Thank you for illuminating this, history can fade away or be covered up. Not sure why people think it ended , and current riders, and governing entities are now honest and clean .
Well I agree with you on that one – he did finish Turd in the Tour de France.
You make great points. I know a smidgeon of contract law having worked at insurance companies. I also survived cancer and that alters a person. My point: if Armstrong and his minions hadnt resorted to pressure and intimidation and had he not mounted a come back attempt, those TDF wins might have remained official.
Another angle not covered is the U.S. governments investigation, which was shut down abruptly. I'd be interested in hearing your take on the legal aspects of the Trek vs. Lemond brand of bicycles. Yes, as some have commented big money, egos, and reputations figure highly in all this.
Interesting how much is Lance paying you? You should mention the peoples lives he absolutely decimated, using big money against the small guy giving the truth.
Done with this this channel!!!
Not to mention he also admitted doping to Oprah on national television
Also interesting that this is coming after Lance slid in the idea that Tadje had one goal in mind??? To beat his record of 7
lol When did he enlist you lol
Pat McQuade knew what was going on all the time when he was president,He probably was getting back hand from Lance..
Aside from the main issue here, the worst part was not the sporting aspect per se, but that Lance Armstrong tried to destroy people, not just their careers in cycling or careers in adjacent industries, but tried to destroy their souls, their humanity, that could have or did create mental and physical issues I suspect for them. Forgiveness is up to those wronged, but nobody should ever forget what he tried to do to people and may have been successful, at least temporarily. Never give him a break on that. He was well past the mid 20s age wise, the brain is fully developed by then and he engaged in a lot of this before and after that. He is a sociopath.
Complete joke… almost every cyclist didn’t get harassed because they lost
How many winners have said lance was the best. How many used same drugs?Was lance the first, no. I think you focus on the man not the machine. The money wanted another winner so they used the system against him. How do you cheat when the top riders are all on it? I cant wait tell Lance talks about the whole system and open up the can or worms.
disappointed to see you promote AG1
UCI are not innocent in this 😊
Here is “a” problem with whether or not Armstrong owns the 1999-2003 Tours. UCI has been public that from 99-06, 20 of the 21 podium finishers were part of or involved a doping scandal. The guy who finished 3rd, Fernando Escatin, was never mentioned, or investigated. They have even insinuated that the field from 02-05 was 100% doped. So what is the correct resolution? And remember ALL of this started with Team Festina in 1998. Investigation wise anyway.
Lance doped?
Why does this channel continue to regurgitate these old stories?
Seems eerily similar to a certain rider doesn't it, minus the asshole aspect 🤔
If Lance has no place in cycling, then he shouldn’t be in the conversation when it comes to the number of TdF titles Tadej has… that includes Merckx… until proven otherwise Pogi is the goat…
Here's the bottom line as I see it. He won in an era where use of PEDs was rampant. Thus he gets to keep the wins. He problem was arrogance. He crushed those who spoke against him. That raises major issues. Should he be banned for life? Yes. He should also be in prison. The document details the de-facto operation of a criminal enterprise where millions were made. That's where things went wrong. Yes, it would have outright killed professional cycling and maybe it should have. Now the bottom line for the average Cyclist. Would we still be riding for charity, pleasure, and health? Yes. Would we be riding weekend warrior races? Probably not. We still haven't overcome the Spectre of doping and it's still happening no matter what others may think.
Read the full thing when it came out as a chem/biochem pre graduate.
Don't stain your own records trying to ever defend that lier and jerk… because he never got caught, does not erase his own confession period. He has always acted like a jerk and a-hole, and still is.
“He would have gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for those pesky kids.”
If Lance wasn't such a prick, he would have likely gotten away with it.
You lost me at AG1.
It's such a long time ago now, but I remember my impression of what I was reading about Lance when he first arrived in racing. I was concerned he seemed young and selfish. He was the opposite in character than LeMond. That's not all that unusual for young white dudes, but it represented the worst of American Character. I wondered what it would do to the reputation of US cyclists.
Like most people, I felt drawn into the remarkable story of Lance's cancer remission and return to competitive cycling. (It was remarkable, even with cheating involved.) It was the kind of feel good story which gave cycling and particularly US cycling many positives.
When it all came crashing, down, I remembered my first impressions, and I was less surprised.
Your take on the legal arguments seems spot on. I think Armstrong was so humiliated he would not testify. His credibility and legacy hinged on his claims of total innocence.