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  1. Wow! Get a life. We get it, you no longer believe in the LDS church and you hate it. Move on already. You have become cringe. Did a LDS reject you or something?

  2. This getting and / or strengthening stuff is insane. Reminds me of Prof. Harold Hill in the Music Man, and the "think system" . . . where if you just think about music long enough, you'll become a musician.

  3. Religions are all bullshit con games; a racket deployed on people for mass control. Live in reality and the present people when you're dead, you're dead no pearly gates, no pie in the sky. Why let some preacher tell you how to be and take your money with a promise he has no part in keeping.

  4. You should never marry mothers and daughters or even sisters. All your wives should be at least first cousins, and the daughters should be safe to live with their moms without anybody trying to violate them.

  5. you realise theres a difference between a sealing and a mairage right? joseph smith was sealed to 39 women wich was not secret no he was not maried to any minors only sealed wich is a temple ordinance that happens when you seal a family together for example in the church when you have a child you are sealed to them what is negative about this especialy considering old testament prophets practiced polygamy by gods command god says to saul "I gave you your wives" I wish people would double check their homework before making disruptive claims based on personal emotion.

  6. Alyssa, I too had a big problem with Joseph Smith, until I took a deeper dive. Here is the evidence why Joseph was not a "dirt bag" and why Brigham Young and others were. 1). After extensive DNA testing, none of the alleged offspring from polygamous relationships were confirmed to be fathered by Joseph. Only the offspring from Emma. In contrast, there are thousands of DNA confirmed polygamous offspring from Brigham, Heber, Wilford, Taylor, etc. 2). The pro polygamy group claim that Joseph didn't have any DNA confirmed offspring because he was under too much stress, too busy with jail and courts, too distracted by other concerns to be able to conceive children. Or, that his polygamous offspring died as infants, or simply disappeared. 3). As a father of 7 children, and several miscarriages, I know how easy it is to conceive children, no matter how stressed, busy or sick I am. Joseph had abundant opportunities with his alleged 30 wives including the young and beautiful Partridge sisters given to him by Emma (allegedly). No evidence they ever conceived the offspring of Joseph, even after Emma approved of them (allegedly)! 4) My great, great aunt, Louisa Beaman, was allegedly married to Joseph by her dad, Joseph Bates Noble, yet never got pregnant by Joseph after several months of allegedly cohabitating, but as soon as Joseph died, Brigham took her as a polygamous wife and was able to father two sets of twin boys with her in spite of all the chaos surrounding Brigham while at Nauvoo. Was Brigham much more potent and fertile than Joseph who fathered 11 pregnancies with Emma? 5) Read the documentation in support of Joseph, who fought polygamy, who Emma strongly supported. And trust your original feelings about Joseph, a true prophet of God.

  7. He only had kids with Emma, so how do you explain that. maybe it was acts of protection for those women. How do you know we are not supposed to have sister wives. More women on earth than man. Women can only hav so many kids, then age sets in, men can father children until they die. God made us. Soooo.. The church bowed to the Feds and signed the manifesto. Ending poligamy.

  8. Solomon had over 700 wives and God made him the wisest to ever live. Joseph Smith was a racist – of course you fail to mention that only to focus on the stupidity of women!! So if we're monogamous, you'd be ok with him!

  9. Be honest. In that moment you felt it was a cult. I have come across some people that left a cult in Austin and it takes them about three years after leaving to say it was a cult. Cannot say I have a wide range to go off of. But that is what I have.

  10. I stopped going when I could no longer live a lie by going to church and keeping appearances. I was also taught that the church is supposed to be this relief from the world and take stress away, just all it did was add more stress. That was another indicator for me that this is not the place to find peace. I had to get out.

  11. SIster dont parrots stuff, study reason and think. . Edward Sayer asked Joseph Smith to have an Eternity Only Marriage with his wife Ruth. Why? While Ed had no interest in the afterlife, Ruth wanted to be sealed to her family for time and eternity. Add to that women who were abandoned for their faith, married to dirt bags. Women who more than likely they were poor or neglected. Conflating "Eternity Only" Marriages with "Time and Eternity" Sexually Consummated Marriages is lazy and ignorant.

    There are a lot of missionaries whose knowledge is a mile wide and an inch deep.

  12. The purpose of plural marriage is for family eternity, most of his wives is no sexual relationship, but we know plural marriage is very Biblical in old testament. Polygamy and monogamy is very biblical in old testament ang God allowed his prophets to have plural marriage.

    And the main purpose of restoration of plural marriage is for family eternity

    Actually Mormonism is better than you allysa, because,

    No sexual relationship to his young age wives. But 3 of his teenage wives have sexual relationship age 17 and two 19 yrs old including 13 adults, and no sexual abuse.

    King Solomon is terrible than Joseph Smith, prophet David and other prophets In old testament they practice plural marriage, so can you criticized the prophet of Abrahamic religion.

    You are hypocrite allyssa

  13. Alyssa is a pathological liar, there is NO Mormon church, nobody is forced or persuaded to bear their testimony, and it is NOT found in the bearing of it, and Joseph Smith was sealed to some 33 women, not married.

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