Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! Hello, sports fans! If you are looking for free public land on which to hunt and not be crowded, I think we have a listener with a good suggestion for finding just that. And we’re also going to figure out what is the best scope for a 30-06 rifle for shooting out to about 350 yards. And can you handload for the .40-82 Winchester? Find out this and more on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.
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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion – the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me – from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I’ve seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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Hey Ron I like your choice of scopes for the guy with the Ruger 30-60 he had a $2000 budget
Another great option is the Leica Amplus 6
Great Glass precise illuminated Dot great low light scope .44 – 50-and 56mm objective lenses.
And under $1500
I believe they are one of the best Hunting Scopes available.
Cheers
40-82 you ask? Take a look at some of Mike Venturino's books he's written on old leverguns and those type of rifle and the SPG loading book. My survival setup is for the areas around Rons backyard. Ruger MKIV 22lr and the Ruger 308 scout rifle. That combo is easy peasy.
You Americans get Guns much easier than we in Germany but Supressors are way more easy to get in Germany you go to a Store and buy one, yes we have to have them inserted in our Weaponslicence afterwards in the Townhall but thats easy and costs only a few € 😂 (i think you get a climps of our BureauCrazy with Supressors)
For the 40-82 I would recommend Buffalo Arms in Idaho. If they don't have it, they may well know where to get it. They deal in BP ammunition & a fair bit of obsolete.
Hey ron your card mentioned 44 :40 . Then theres a 38:40 but its a 40 caliber. Just opposite. There also was a match cartridge 19th century the
40: 62.was popular and flat 4 the time.🦬🐎
Check local laws before hunting with a suppressor. Big game is illegal to hunt with one.
James, try Buffalo Arms for info on your 40-82
As per Cartridges Of The World loading for the 40-82 Win. is as follows 260gr. lead bullet over 28 grs. IMR 4198. They got their info from Lyman #403169. They also recommend using 45 basic cases.
What people seem to forget in the survival rifle debate is that a bow is even more versatile and lighter than a 22lr and has basically infinite ammo as long as you know how to make it. For this reason i would use a bow for small game hunting and choose a high powered centerfire rifle (any caliber i can get my hands on) as my secondary weapon. The rifle would allow me to make use of shot opportunities that i would be missing out on with a .22, shotgun or bow, it would also be much better at self defense (against both humans and wildlife) than a .22 or a bow (about on par with the shotgun).
Buy a Zeiss for your 30-06. Buy once cry once.
The best long term survival rifle is a black powder refile. As you can make everything that is needed to keep it shooting
Shooting Lever Guns of the Old West by M. Venturing has some smokeless and black powder data for the 40-82
Lyman manuals were/are the best source of information on black powder, cast bullet loads, as well as Ken Waters Pet Loads, and some data in Cartridges of the World. I'm load in 38-55 and 40-65,and those are the sources I use, as well as the internet forums and even some campfire conversation. Have fun, don't get caught!
25gr of 5744 behind 260gr hard cast works very well. It's only running about 1300fps but I've takin deer and hogs with it no problem.
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I have a correction Ron. You said a word wrong. I don't remember what word it was but it was definitely wrong, that should be corrected.
.40-82 Winchester:
Cartridges of the World, 16th Edition, by Frank C. Barnes, edited by W. Todd Woodard
Page 205:
"Introduced in 1885 for the Winchester single shot and also available for the Model 1886 Lever action…made the transition into the smokeless powder Era. It was loaded until 1935." 2loadings for a 260 gr bullet are given.
I have a 2.5 by 10 by 40 on a model 70 Winchester at 06. Perfect my opinion.
Hello from the treasure valley! I’ve got a customer that purchased a case of Norma for his 300WSM 180gr and complained that it wasn’t shooting well, 3” at 100yrd , I pulled down 40 rounds and weighed ea load, result were 1.1 grains of deviation.. that’s huge! Loaded him up with H4350 and a 165gr Nosler and now he’s shooting 1/4” groups, this is not my first encounter Norma ammo, love there brass though
Best bet for 40-82 is trail boss. You can load any case except 50 bmg, to just below the base of the seated bullit. No compressed loads.
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Wait a minute… You’re using a silencer on a hunting rifle? Supersonic ammo? Does that even work?
Everybody and his momma bear are telling me that these things are useless on full power ammo.
Ventura munitions and midway show 40-82
To the listener who asked about Norma Bondstrike in a 6.5 Creedmore, I'm trying them out this year. My handloads are getting sub 3/4 moa group. I haven't taken anything with them yet, but opener is in 3 days, so maybe I can let you know who it performs on target soon.
My favorite BP vintage cartridge is the 40-82 and Mike Venturing book "Shooting lever guns of the Old West" lit a fire under me, it is his first and favorite round. After loading and shooting the 45LC, 44 Colt and 45-70 I came to love the 40 cal. Black power is fun, shot it for yrs but thanks to Mike I switched to 5744 smokeless and have used it decades for 38 Colt on up thru 50-140 and everything in-between.
Love your channel and the great effort you two put in.
I have an old '86 in 38-56 and have done handloads for it. But brass and bullets are occasionally available. It must have been more popular than the 40-82.
Ron I agree. I didnt get any deer last year here in maine. But it was so beautiful in the morning sun..snow on the ground. Just rejuvenates the soul.
William that hasn't hunted. Remember hunting is not always getting your game. I have had some of the most fun hunting trips and never even seen the game I was after. It just getting out there, doing your best. But you have to get out there!
Im pretty literate when it comes to firearms, but i was not aware of a 40-82.
Ventura Munitions is the place to go for old black powder ammo.
I want to be 35 years younger so I can be Ron Spoomer when I grow up. He hunts, writes, blogs and lives the life I’ve always wished I could do, but there is only one Ron Spoomer so I’ll cherish his work like I did that of Gene Hill.
Check itar regulations before you take a supresssor to africa
16:00 Like this guy who never went hunting, I’ve wished I could go more often but after dad passed and a lack of access to private land I’ve quit. I’d go alone but public land in the southeast is crowded with jerks who respect nothing: others, the land, the game, or even parking.
A good old fixed 8 power Leupold
cartridges of the world has a load imr4198 28grains 1425 velocity 1180 energy 260 gr lead bullet
.409 bullets usually and 5477 powder. Start around 24 gr of powder. Work up slowly and carefully
Probably gonna get haters for this, but I shoot 223 and 5.56 in both ALL THE TIME. Not a single issue from literally dozens of different rifles and loads, with probably tens of thousands of rounds.
For .40-82 check out Mike "Duke" Venturino, he did an article in Guns Magazine on handloading for the 1886 Winchester in .40-82.
Great video, Ron. I thought I scored my brother-in-law give me a scope in a box it said Bushnell elite it had a price tag on it said $579. I opened it up, and it's a no-name that has no markings on it. It's only a 3-9× 40 mm markings on it. Maybe I'll get $20. Anyway, keep up the great content, Ron. Cheers from Canada 🍻.
Ron: As noted above Buffalo Arms is a good source and Midway may be, depending upon whether they have them in stock… but Quality Cartridge has an inventory of calibers that they make that reads like an encyclopedia!
Anyone out there remember the .351 & .401 WSLs?
Thanks for addressing my question on the 40-82. Your advice and those of the comment section now has me in the research mode again.
Go to the Shiloh Sharps forum for the 40-82 relaoding data. I have seen a lot of data on there over the last 20 years on that cartridge.
I disagree respectfully about the scope assessment.
To me the first and most important aspect of a hunting scope is it’s ability to hold its zero and track with great precision.
Bushnels innovation of no external fogging of lenses a wonderful gift to hunters in cold freezing weather.
Clarity, brightness in hunting scopes is very nice, but that is what I look for in a good set of binoculars, the main tool to spot game.
Scope optics for hunting need to be good enough to put the reticle on my target and clear enough to properly see the whole animal. Target quality at massive cost increase is not needed imho.
Specific target scopes indeed need very good glass.
Ventura ammunition has 40-82 cowboy loads available. Thanks Ron I appreciate you.
LOVE YOUR SHOW, CLASS ACT!!!
PMC made a run of this ammo about 20yrs ago. Mike Venterino's book "Shooting Lever Guns Of the old West" has loading data.
I shoot 40-82 out of my 1885 Winchester single shot rifle quite often. As far as shooting smokeless however I do not. I use all Swiss black powder and get good velocity’s with that without having to worry about trusting someone’s load data with smokeless in it.