I hope whoever is organizing this has great insurance and a lawyer, lol
Nothing wrong with riding in the snow but doing coaching like this is just dumb.
Also, snow was slippery. You were going too fast and unprepared for the rapid loss of grip. Not much to go into
UnderstandingFit3009 on
Snow on top of fallen leaves. You never had a chance.
ifq29311 on
you rode a bike in the snow
PrimeIntellect on
You leaned in with the bike so you washed out hard instead to sliding with the bike.you need to push in more and lean the bike not your body
_riotsquad on
Well apart from poor coaching conditions …
Bike / body separation.
You are down low weight to the rear leaving you no room to move your body. You are leaning to the left, instead your body should be upright vertically over the wheels.
I did do a nice diagram but this sub doesn’t let me post images.
CrazyTechWizard96 on
Did the same last year but with mud.
Not enough traction when mud or snow is present, the lean and you just slip.
My shin still hurts thinking about how I fell, I rarely fall but when I do, I remember.
About 3 weeks ago I slipped like 3 times on ice, yea, snow is fun till either lean or ice and no spikes, Y’all be carefull outthere.
gabohill on
You did a great clip.
Canadian_Gopher on
You fell
External_Brother1246 on
Two form things.
You were not over the front wheel and may have actually leaned back. This takes traction off the front wheel.
You leaned your body into the turn, instead of leaning the bike over. This creates an additional force that is pushing the wheels out. Keep your weight straight up and down over the contrast patch. Lean the bike over to engage the side knobs. Body stays upright unless in a supported turn.
Narrower bars will help you with the bike body separation you need to corner better. Your arms are already too straight to allow you to move the bike under your body.
kh56010 on
You stopped your momentum with your face.
BC_LOFASZ on
I don’t know why the others cry about snow to be honest. I think it is still fun to ride in it, but of course, you have to learn riding in it.
And to your question, snow + leaves are not a good combo to lean in on. In these cases I try to just turn the handlebar, but lean as less as possible. This also means, that you cannot be as fast as on dry or normal vet conditions.
Hope you have fun 😀
razorree on
You’ve lost front wheel
Turbulent_Deal_3145 on
You exceeded the breaking point of your tires, pretty much as simple as that. I don’t think it had anything to do with your technique. You just didn’t accurately calculate how much grip you had.
Acrobatic-Cost-3027 on
Snow, leaves, hidden rocks. Hopefully you were wearing some body armor. Looked like a good rib check right there.
Unlikely-Office-7566 on
You initiated the turn with your shoulders, upper body and head, turning the bars before you had any side knob traction. Then leaned in harder.
You need to lean the bike with your hips, before initiating the turn. Steer with your hips pointing where you want to go.
Practice going in large ish circles, you should be able to remove your inside hand without losing control of bars or your turning radius. Weight your outside foot and outside hand, this gives side knob bite.
Bikes don’t turn with the bars. They turn in with lean angle, aka bike body separation. You will actually initiate your turn with your bars going to opposite way of where you want to turn. In this case, your front wheel should have gone slightly right first, not to the left.
Obligation_Still on
Forgot your skis.
Imaginary-Natural168 on
Skogarna runt Genarp?
wood4536 on
You should have leaned the bike more than you leaned yourself
singelingtracks on
ice, tire pressure probable above single didgits, no studs, your gonna slide.
thenewjerk on
You’re supposed to stay on top of the bike and off the ground
Individual-Age-7197 on
It hurts to watch for real, hope you’re doing okay. I personally would get my weight back further over the rear wheel before the drop. Getting that sorted before choosing a line will help.
Tough_Course9431 on
You cant incline a bike on lose surface, thats why i dont ride in the snow
ChimmyChongaBonga on
Technique aside as its been answered a lot here; you’ll get to a point where you’ll instinctively unclip and throw a leg out when you start to wash out. I race gravel on mostly semi-slicks and throwing a motocross style ground kick has saved my face from meeting the ground many times.
Hope you heal up quick.
slowagon82 on
Drop outside (right) foot before/during the turn. If you slide this will help you steer out of it.
Sea-Check-9062 on
Outside pedal should be low, with weight on.
Went in too fast for the conditions.
Tried to brake and steer at the same time.
Didn’t react when grip broke.
charcuterie_dude on
The snow didn’t help at all…. But your body position wasn’t great. Look how far you were leaning over the center mass of the bike on a non-banked turn. Keeping your body and weight more over the bike would have helped there…. But then again, you were probably gonna fall either way with all that snow
Frankeyc on
You rode in’da cold 🥶.
lostboyz on
Two wheel physics get funky when you lose traction on snow. Your reactions will probably make it worse because the bike won’t react like it would on dirt. If you just grab the brakes you’re just going to wash your front tire out more and/or your back will want to come around anyway it can. You have to get into an attack position early, go straight as possible over loose stuff, spot areas to pivot/turn, and stay loose when you slide. You can’t make any sudden movements. Treat all corners as if they’re off camber, you’ll naturally put weight where it needs to be and if you slide it will have a better chance at staying upright
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I hope whoever is organizing this has great insurance and a lawyer, lol
Nothing wrong with riding in the snow but doing coaching like this is just dumb.
Also, snow was slippery. You were going too fast and unprepared for the rapid loss of grip. Not much to go into
Snow on top of fallen leaves. You never had a chance.
you rode a bike in the snow
You leaned in with the bike so you washed out hard instead to sliding with the bike.you need to push in more and lean the bike not your body
Well apart from poor coaching conditions …
Bike / body separation.
You are down low weight to the rear leaving you no room to move your body. You are leaning to the left, instead your body should be upright vertically over the wheels.
I did do a nice diagram but this sub doesn’t let me post images.
Did the same last year but with mud.
Not enough traction when mud or snow is present, the lean and you just slip.
My shin still hurts thinking about how I fell, I rarely fall but when I do, I remember.
About 3 weeks ago I slipped like 3 times on ice, yea, snow is fun till either lean or ice and no spikes, Y’all be carefull outthere.
You did a great clip.
You fell
Two form things.
You were not over the front wheel and may have actually leaned back. This takes traction off the front wheel.
You leaned your body into the turn, instead of leaning the bike over. This creates an additional force that is pushing the wheels out. Keep your weight straight up and down over the contrast patch. Lean the bike over to engage the side knobs. Body stays upright unless in a supported turn.
Narrower bars will help you with the bike body separation you need to corner better. Your arms are already too straight to allow you to move the bike under your body.
You stopped your momentum with your face.
I don’t know why the others cry about snow to be honest. I think it is still fun to ride in it, but of course, you have to learn riding in it.
And to your question, snow + leaves are not a good combo to lean in on. In these cases I try to just turn the handlebar, but lean as less as possible. This also means, that you cannot be as fast as on dry or normal vet conditions.
Hope you have fun 😀
You’ve lost front wheel
You exceeded the breaking point of your tires, pretty much as simple as that. I don’t think it had anything to do with your technique. You just didn’t accurately calculate how much grip you had.
Snow, leaves, hidden rocks. Hopefully you were wearing some body armor. Looked like a good rib check right there.
You initiated the turn with your shoulders, upper body and head, turning the bars before you had any side knob traction. Then leaned in harder.
You need to lean the bike with your hips, before initiating the turn. Steer with your hips pointing where you want to go.
Practice going in large ish circles, you should be able to remove your inside hand without losing control of bars or your turning radius. Weight your outside foot and outside hand, this gives side knob bite.
Bikes don’t turn with the bars. They turn in with lean angle, aka bike body separation. You will actually initiate your turn with your bars going to opposite way of where you want to turn. In this case, your front wheel should have gone slightly right first, not to the left.
Forgot your skis.
Skogarna runt Genarp?
You should have leaned the bike more than you leaned yourself
ice, tire pressure probable above single didgits, no studs, your gonna slide.
You’re supposed to stay on top of the bike and off the ground
It hurts to watch for real, hope you’re doing okay. I personally would get my weight back further over the rear wheel before the drop. Getting that sorted before choosing a line will help.
You cant incline a bike on lose surface, thats why i dont ride in the snow
Technique aside as its been answered a lot here; you’ll get to a point where you’ll instinctively unclip and throw a leg out when you start to wash out. I race gravel on mostly semi-slicks and throwing a motocross style ground kick has saved my face from meeting the ground many times.
Hope you heal up quick.
Drop outside (right) foot before/during the turn. If you slide this will help you steer out of it.
Outside pedal should be low, with weight on.
Went in too fast for the conditions.
Tried to brake and steer at the same time.
Didn’t react when grip broke.
The snow didn’t help at all…. But your body position wasn’t great. Look how far you were leaning over the center mass of the bike on a non-banked turn. Keeping your body and weight more over the bike would have helped there…. But then again, you were probably gonna fall either way with all that snow
You rode in’da cold 🥶.
Two wheel physics get funky when you lose traction on snow. Your reactions will probably make it worse because the bike won’t react like it would on dirt. If you just grab the brakes you’re just going to wash your front tire out more and/or your back will want to come around anyway it can. You have to get into an attack position early, go straight as possible over loose stuff, spot areas to pivot/turn, and stay loose when you slide. You can’t make any sudden movements. Treat all corners as if they’re off camber, you’ll naturally put weight where it needs to be and if you slide it will have a better chance at staying upright