Whether you have an e-bike, don’t have one, like his channel, don’t like it, blanket laws like that lacking nuance are not great for anyone. IMO. Be curious to see how this develops. I will say as someone who has almost been t-boned in my car by someone on an “e-bike” easily doing 30 mph down a side street and blowing a stop light, something needs to happen, but this don’t seem like it.
fyodor_mikhailovich on
The state that won’t let you pump your own gas? I’m shocked 😮
sougol on
So the problem is that people owned electric motorcycles illegally and in order to fix the issue they made electric bicycles also illegal without a license and registration.
dont_remember_eatin on
Karen moms are going to spread this far and wide thanks to surron kids. Many of them wheelie-ing down public streets at 30+ mph in shorts, tshirt, and crocs without even a basic bike helmet, much less a full face moto helmet.
Now suddenly my commuter ebike will require an M endorsement (which I already have, but that’s beside the point) to ride, I have to ride in the street everywhere, even if I just feel like cruising at a lower pace on the shared paths, and I have to register and insure it? Fuck that noise. I’ll be the first to raise hell at my local city council meeting if they try this shit.
Luckily, my local area leans toward the libertarian side of liberalism, not the fascist side, so it’s a fight I might not ever have to engage in.
Edit: Downvotes for calling out surron kids and their enabling parents on an MTB sub? Some of y’all got guilty consciences? Or is the surron-and-clones sub in the house with us today?
AardvarkFacts on
Anti-bike people have been trying to require motor vehicle style registration for bikes for a long time. It sounds like they finally got their way.
veggieturnip on
Stopped listening to this guy when he said that jamming all your weight on your pedals while shifting T-Type transmissions was the best way to shift.
FatahRuark on
I’ve heard the NJ DMV is a well oiled machine. I’m sure there will be no problem adding this additional work to their load. /s
NoisyCats on
Not certain why this video is posted in this sub as it only mentions eMTBs for a few seconds so I take it as this: Fitness mountain bike bros posturing and salivating over the possibilities of getting eMTBs removed from the trails. Just ride your bike and set the same goals you always did. Nobody is bothering you on their eMTB.
sinnops on
They passed a law aimed at protecting kids, took a sledgehammer to the problem and somehow dident address any of the original issue. Good job government, way to suck.
Vegetable_Log_3837 on
Good, nearly got run over by an old man on an e-bike when I was walking on the sidewalk yesterday. They’re also all over my local MTB trails that explicitly don’t allow them, everything from class who give a shit to Surron.
Stratoblaster1969 on
The problem I’m seeing most, small gangs of 14 year old kids on busy, 3 lane, city streets doing wheelies on their Surrons. I don’t think parents know what their kids are using those things for. I’m all for kids getting outside and even causing a little trouble. But these are basically unlicensed, uninsured children, in traffic on “motorcycles”. This is one place where guilt by association is coming from.
silentjet on
That would be a more suitable task for ICE, rather than hunting ppl, let them hunt moped-wanna-be-ebikes
Lakeofsalt on
It’s almost like if you add a motor to a bicycle it becomes a motorcycle. Crazy logic
adam574 on
blame all the kids on the motorcycle style ebikes for this one. it seems all they literally do is ride on the street or skateparks.
if they would just go ride them in the woods no one would have cared this much.
ExpressReveal2480 on
Ebikers got 10+ years to do the FAFO thing and everyone lived it up, now it’s time for the FO part.
As someone with a motorcycle license it is really hard for me to be anywhere near as upset about this as Seth.
I find it most hilarious he thinks wearing a DOT approved MC helmet is such a horrible thing. They’re good helmets, there are plenty of them that overlap in price with bicycle helmets, and they are much, much better helmets for the speeds eBikers are riding at. And if you’re riding one of these massively powerful eBikes you’re not really exercising much harder or getting much hotter than riding a motorcycle.
Shaxxs0therHorn on
Class 1 vs class 2 though right. Pedal assist vs throttle control
Rodeo9 on
Classic nanny state bs.
matt_msu on
Bicycles don’t need batteries.
motosandguns on
I think this is great. I already have a motorcycle license and I’d happily register an e-bike.
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Murica wtf you do ?
Whether you have an e-bike, don’t have one, like his channel, don’t like it, blanket laws like that lacking nuance are not great for anyone. IMO. Be curious to see how this develops. I will say as someone who has almost been t-boned in my car by someone on an “e-bike” easily doing 30 mph down a side street and blowing a stop light, something needs to happen, but this don’t seem like it.
The state that won’t let you pump your own gas? I’m shocked 😮
So the problem is that people owned electric motorcycles illegally and in order to fix the issue they made electric bicycles also illegal without a license and registration.
Karen moms are going to spread this far and wide thanks to surron kids. Many of them wheelie-ing down public streets at 30+ mph in shorts, tshirt, and crocs without even a basic bike helmet, much less a full face moto helmet.
Now suddenly my commuter ebike will require an M endorsement (which I already have, but that’s beside the point) to ride, I have to ride in the street everywhere, even if I just feel like cruising at a lower pace on the shared paths, and I have to register and insure it? Fuck that noise. I’ll be the first to raise hell at my local city council meeting if they try this shit.
Luckily, my local area leans toward the libertarian side of liberalism, not the fascist side, so it’s a fight I might not ever have to engage in.
Edit: Downvotes for calling out surron kids and their enabling parents on an MTB sub? Some of y’all got guilty consciences? Or is the surron-and-clones sub in the house with us today?
Anti-bike people have been trying to require motor vehicle style registration for bikes for a long time. It sounds like they finally got their way.
Stopped listening to this guy when he said that jamming all your weight on your pedals while shifting T-Type transmissions was the best way to shift.
I’ve heard the NJ DMV is a well oiled machine. I’m sure there will be no problem adding this additional work to their load. /s
Not certain why this video is posted in this sub as it only mentions eMTBs for a few seconds so I take it as this: Fitness mountain bike bros posturing and salivating over the possibilities of getting eMTBs removed from the trails. Just ride your bike and set the same goals you always did. Nobody is bothering you on their eMTB.
They passed a law aimed at protecting kids, took a sledgehammer to the problem and somehow dident address any of the original issue. Good job government, way to suck.
Good, nearly got run over by an old man on an e-bike when I was walking on the sidewalk yesterday. They’re also all over my local MTB trails that explicitly don’t allow them, everything from class who give a shit to Surron.
The problem I’m seeing most, small gangs of 14 year old kids on busy, 3 lane, city streets doing wheelies on their Surrons. I don’t think parents know what their kids are using those things for. I’m all for kids getting outside and even causing a little trouble. But these are basically unlicensed, uninsured children, in traffic on “motorcycles”. This is one place where guilt by association is coming from.
That would be a more suitable task for ICE, rather than hunting ppl, let them hunt moped-wanna-be-ebikes
It’s almost like if you add a motor to a bicycle it becomes a motorcycle. Crazy logic
blame all the kids on the motorcycle style ebikes for this one. it seems all they literally do is ride on the street or skateparks.
if they would just go ride them in the woods no one would have cared this much.
Ebikers got 10+ years to do the FAFO thing and everyone lived it up, now it’s time for the FO part.
As someone with a motorcycle license it is really hard for me to be anywhere near as upset about this as Seth.
I find it most hilarious he thinks wearing a DOT approved MC helmet is such a horrible thing. They’re good helmets, there are plenty of them that overlap in price with bicycle helmets, and they are much, much better helmets for the speeds eBikers are riding at. And if you’re riding one of these massively powerful eBikes you’re not really exercising much harder or getting much hotter than riding a motorcycle.
Class 1 vs class 2 though right. Pedal assist vs throttle control
Classic nanny state bs.
Bicycles don’t need batteries.
I think this is great. I already have a motorcycle license and I’d happily register an e-bike.
Whatever keeps the damn kids off them.