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  1. It kinda shows how much western brands fleece us, really. But I guess they pay really low wages

  2. Pontus_Pilates on

    I was looking at an Elves carbon frame, light carbon wheels and SRAM 1×13 electric groupset. Full bike would have been something like 2700€.

    Dura Ace Di2 would be 1100€ more expensive than the SRAM. $5000 doesn’t feel far-fetched.

  3. Well OEM pricing for groupsets is a fraction of the retail price if order numbers are high enough, and the frame and wheels are probably made of cheese. Lots of Chinese carbon is fantastic, but to get actually good frames and wheels you’re either paying 700+ quid for a reputable brand or going with a well regarded direct to consumer manufacturer like LightCarbon or XM Carbon Speed.

    These SAVA guys will be buying fairly bottom of the barrel frames/wheels for pennies and putting high end groupsets on them to make it look like a high value final product. They’ll often come with EPS moulding, monocoque tech or high tensile carbon for the sake of marketing but usually not all three and sometimes it’s just lies. There’s simply no way it’s profitable otherwise.

    The weight will be a very liberal figure in the smallest size and the wind tunnel claim is almost certainly bullshit.

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