come on you got it but whenever you start building enough gyroscopic momentum up the bike’s going to start acting a little differently so look I’m not doing anything else I’m just pushing with this finger if I want to go left I just push left if I want to go right I push right
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Something about the way you pushed it and observing the movement from the rider’s pov like that made it click. I don’t have a bike and I’m going for basic training soon but I’m trying to understand as much as I can before I get on a bike. Thanks! These videos mean everything to a newcomer.
So it’s basically keep the “bars “ stable with minimal force to keep the bars from just turning all the way into the turn.
I'm really confused as to why ts called counter steering, to me it's just steering
So, pretty much a push and pull motion. At low speeds, you'll pull the handlebar left or right to turn (normal steering) and, at higher speeds, push the handlebar left or right to turn (counter steering).
What is that bike called?
I noticed that sometime in the past year or so I stopped actively thinking about counter steer. When I realized this I tried to observe what I do when I turn and I noticed that when I wanna turn I start leaning slightly in that direction and I brace my arm a little so I also push the bar in the same motion. I just thought it was fascinating that my brain subconsciously made this mechanism for counter steering.
Is that a Guzzi V7? ❤
Something my brother told me.
Push left, lean left to go left
Push right, lean right to go right
That's not counter steering lol
nothing to do with gyroscopic force. It's just the rake and trail functioning as it should
Generally, I recommend to get a scooter to first master such basic riding skills because you are not worried about shifting and all, and you are simply focussed on riding well. Then afterwards you can get a motorcycle.
I’ve played with this on my own a few times to get a better understanding of it. You can push down on either side to go that direction, or you can pull upward on the opposite side you want to turn and get the same result. You can physically lean and put weight to that side also if you’re fast enough to counter steer but not too fast to where your counter steering isn’t as effective when you’re pushing. For me, about 25-65 is a good range to try this in. Probably be in second gear so you’re not sputtering and potentially slip out as you might in first, but somewhere in there is good enough to try. If you do it right too when you’re doing it, you can do the weaving thing to warm up simply by just leaning. Not pushing down or pulling up, but just leaning. I’ve started to get to that point (still a beginner by FAR) but it’s pretty satisfying when you can. It’s also fun to just weave down the main road when there’s no cars. People look at you like you’re crazy (which in this case you might be) but as long as you look ahead and check for people, potholes, and potentially hazardous objects you’re good.
Teachers need to say “go left? Push left grip” “go right? Push right grip”
Actually if you are a super rider you have realized that the handlebars are merely a place to rest your hands. You actually steer the bike with your ass and by using your lower legs as weighted pendulums. This is how I put miles between me and my buddies when carving canyons. Now you know……. Bless you readers be safe, learn to ride at safe places before you decide you can handle your bike like a race rider.✝️🙏🇺🇸
Do you push forward or down
If you have to think about it riding isn't for you.
Nice Moto Guzzi 🙂
I always say its like riding a normal bike or bicycle while going fast or downhill a motorcycle acts the same
stop overthinking it. Just steer xd
It also works with no speed,
But isn't it the opposite of what should happen?
When I do that the bike goes right
So what your saying on this video is that it's basically just tniy flick of force to turn right? But what about the Twisties? Turn flick left then you want to flick right that's my gear that I can't flick my bike when exiting from one twisty to another I am riding a friend's bike and I am careful to use it and thinking about getting a bike but I fear I won't flick it after exiting a twisty or even just flicking it straight after coming out of twisty
Yeah but are you pushing forward or down? There’s a big difference.
This reminds me of the scene in Cars where Doc Hudson says “turn right to go left”.
Remember people, just a friendly reminder. Riding a motorcycle is super easy to get injured on. Ur only armor is your helmet, and the rest of your bones? Theyre just waiting to break, even if youre decked out in Kevlar.
In a car, you’ve got the whole thing as ur protective shell, airbags galore and crumple zones that give you a fighting chance.
Trucks? Even more robust!
But on a motorcycle? It’s either a lifetime in a wheelchair or a trip to the morgue, decapitation included!
No matter how careful or experienced you are, you can’t control the idiots around you, especially the elderly.
They’ll kill you!
ever since I tried leaning into the turn to counter the centrifugal force, I have since been able to turn faster and more confidently. not much more fear of the wobbly state of understeer. training in the parking lot helped me a lot
good reminder.
I have met so many riders who get confused by the counter-steering explanation. I've come to believe that, since I've actually seen them ride and rode with them, they obviously have demonstrated that they are doing it. But the explanation makes them think there is "something else" to be done that is better.
That's where they get confused. (And, total newcomers sometimes bring the concept to slow riding and then dump their bikes.)
The last thing you want to be is a rider who has to think "Push left" or "push right" while making turns. It has to be a completely involuntary muscle memory response. To most people I've met, it is.
Perhaps people who never rode bicycles as kids have more difficulty with the concept.
This! This is the the best way to explain countersteering espically to someone whos never done it before
Riding this Moto Guzzi is fantastic ❤❤
What beauty of a bike is that???
That not counter steering. That's exactly the opposite of counter steering.
WTH? Is any of you an actual bike rider??
Slightly incorrect – the countersteer works at any speed. Try this with a bicycle, getting off & pushing it: countersteer makes even that kind of bike lean, at sub walking pace. Lean makes turn, since it's a cone type effect with the tyres – when the tyres lean left, their track is arcing left. When they lean right the arc goes right. Yes it works faster and more immediately at speed, but it works at all speeds. Lean the bike, turn the bike.