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Hello everyone. Welcome to episode 21 of the second season of Tosh News and today we are joined by our resident Tor. So hello there Tory boy. Good afternoon. Well it’s evening really. I I mean you know when what what what’s going to have to happen for you to join the great Farage side of politics? Um probably the well I hit you know hitting my head very hard might do it but um what about the total collapse of the Tory party like no recovery it’s overend if if they literally got to the point where they couldn’t sustain a registration with the electoral commission anymore then that would probably be too far for me because then I would have to become responsible for doing the forms and that would be dangerous. So, um, well, there you go. And also to introduce the new co-host. It’s Sero. Hello, Sero. Hey guys, Residential Wildard here. Oh, absolutely. Um, so yes, expect so on all my streams, both this and laughing at the Guardian. Uh, Tharium’s retired and I think we’ll uh we’ll leave it at that. Um anyway, meantime, as you can see, we’ve got the Reform Express. We’ve got four other planes in the background. Yes, this is mass deportations and the five flight today that uh Reform pledged the other day. And a lot of people are very happy about it. A lot of people seem a bit upset by it in uh uh for some reason that I still can’t quite get my head around, but yes, um very big news last week. by far one of their biggest press conferences and pretty much everyone seems very impressed by it. Um because it’s very much a rejection of Blairism and it’s basically what a lot of people wanted the Tories to do for 14 years. Wouldn’t you agree Tory Boy? I think they’ve become more of a focus over the last few years. Yeah. I mean, we wanted Loose Trust to do it. We kind of thought she would especially after being screwed over at first, but uh they didn’t give her time. They did not give her time. I do agree. We also wanted Boris to do it. Just to mention, we also did want Boris to do Boris. Boris was never going to do it. Come on. And we also wanted David Cameron to uh to pull people as well. Let’s be fair, Boris would have done it if he didn’t have his wife who was influencing him and instead he just had his uh Dominic Cummings. If he just did what all all he was doing if he had married Dominic Cummings. Yeah. If if that’s what it would take. Yeah. Like take one for the team Dominic cuz uh you know Boris Bor Boris was probably blind drunk all the time anyway so he wouldn’t care. There’s one but one amazing alternate history book in the making Dominic Cummings and Boris Johnson story. They never fall out. Yeah. They take uh was it they take England to a utopia. We’re we’re a power an international power again. Farrage actually does retire booze to America and uh Yep. becomes special envoy with Trump or something like that. Yeah. Yep. Y um No, but it’s all very good. Uh and I think everyone’s impressed. I I think Tory Boy might say that through gritted teeth, but uh I think we’re all all very happy. Um well, it’s it’s been a long time coming, right? People have been saying, “Where’s the plan? Where’s the plan?” Oh, yeah. a few months out, you know, over our date, but it’s it’s it’s more thorough than I thought it was going to be, but there’s still unanswered questions. I’m sure I’m sure there is. Um, we’re still in the mindset of three and a half years out, slightly more than that actually, until next election. Um I mean as you this is the sort of thing that because you know things with like the Britannia card that looks like they took like a week to think that through and it wasn’t too bad but it it did have holes in it. This is this one they seem to have well they’re even pushing it as far as Ascension Island which is like if we don’t have any other choice we’ll just throw them on Ascension Island. That’s like we need a last resort. Like there’s plan B’s and everything in there which is good but but I’m sure there’s holes in it and I’m sure people will that’s like when Ricky Sunnak said if we have to we’ll leave the ECR which I forgot about Rishy. I actually forgot that Rishi was prime minister at one point. Yeah, but that again that’s that’s Tori. I mean well we all we all miss Rishi Sunnak. He was better than that. Yeah. Oh no. I I literally forgot that he was there. I I don’t know. Sorry. Um but but what I will say is uh as a oh sorry one what I will say is that they beforehand the plan on its own people would have been questioning it more but one thing that we do actually have in the in the barrel so to speak is that we’ve seen Trump actually do things of like on scale and because of that we actually have an example of how it would work. So it’s not even just theoretical anymore. So they can actually provide a plan and say we actually know that this is doable because here’s an actual example of it being done uh you know relatively easily and humanely all the things that people worry about. You know you’re seeing the scenes in America and obviously lefties are kicking off about it but overall it’s being done you know in a relatively straightforward way. So, I think that that’s also potentially to our favor. Well, possibly. I I mean, we’re not going to dwell on this for too long because there’s other things to talk about, but I will say we have just had a super chat, so thank you very much for the £5, Mr. Burr. Thoughts on the spicy Douglas Carwell tweet. Personally, I find it distasteful to put it mildly. Lots of slibs seem shocked. I don’t know his law. I mean, Douglas Carwell’s very much on the spicier side of things these days, but he’s nowhere near power, so it doesn’t really matter what he writes. But he um I mean for those who don’t know his tweet was was it it was in like it was a retweet of something going on in Britain. I can’t remember what exactly but it said uh from effing to the sea uh Britain will be Abdul free. Um and it’s just it’s it’s basic ethnationalist magic internet points. It was thrown out for likes and things like that because that’s what happens. The edgier you get the more likes you get. which is why I think Twitter’s the biggest cess pit of all social media. I really enjoy it though. Plus, there’s journalists following me these days, so I’m keeping it largely professional. Um, plus I’ve obviously, you know, I’ve been noticed quite recently by quite a few of them, uh, as well. So, I kind of have to stay there. But it is just horrendous. Oh, yeah. I mean, I said it in my video today. You go on Facebook and you go on Tik Tok. Um I think because content moderation’s better there people one have to post slightly smarter but also two you don’t have the only place I really see large scale reform hate is X uh and then certain videos on YouTube and that’s it. It’s on Twitter. There’s quite a lot of channels that are pro-reform. Um, but they’re all run by boomers. And then there’s uh absolutely loads who are run by Gen X’s and millennials that are obviously oh love me uh love me Tommy Robinson hate reform. Um and Douglas Carwell I mean if you don’t know his law his law is he was a Tory. He defected to UKIP was their only MP for a while. Won a bi-election to stay as a UKIP MP. Uh did he lose after that? What happened there Toriel? No. What happened? Um so the bi-election was 2014. Yeah. Um because he when he defected resigned his seat and ran in the bi-election. Oh yeah. Um in 2015 he retained his seat in Clactton which is the seat that is now Nigel Fares. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, yeah, I think I think before before that I think he might have been the only UKIP MP to ever actually win a seat at a general election. Yeah, I think he was. Um, no, he definitely was because they’ve only ever had MP. Well, they had two. They had two. They was Douglas Carwell and Mark Reckless because Mark Reckless did the same thing as Douglas Carwell a few months later in 2014. um because he was the MP for Rochester and Strud which is actually not it’s not that far in Kent but um I think he I think he might have lost his seat in 200 check. I think he did. Well, I’m cuz he cuz he went off remember when he moved to Wales and he became a member of UK Wales. He became a member of the Senate. Oh, did he? Oh yeah, I think I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um well either way um well I mean then he’s move he’s moved to America Douglas Carwell. Yeah he’s that’s why he’s that’s why he’s tweeting so much weird stuff because he’s like living in America whatever he wants. He can get away with it and he’s got no chance of getting anywhere and no power cuz he he wrote he wrote what I think was not too bad a um deportation plan which included basically deporting everyone who’s a confirmed terrorist sympathizer on the terrorist watch list. It’s like investigate all these. I just realized who you’re talking about. Yeah. Sorry, I just realized who you’re talking about. Yeah, he’s he is all right, but he’s quite clearly discovered being very edgy gives you magic internet points and everyone just loves attention. That’s why a lot of cars was started as like the libertarian wing of the party. Yeah. Yeah. And then move to UK because they’re more libertarian. Yeah. Yeah. To be fair, it it does I understand it, right? cuz it does juxtapose the Palestine uh Gaza people with their chant, right? Cuz their their chant is perfectly fine. But oh well, but yeah, his wording was not particularly smart because you could have worded it in multiple ways that uh that I think the Yeah, I think the effect that’s happened is not what he intended. I don’t actually think he’s like a hardcore Eston, but when you tweet something that you have to know how people are going to read it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because the Steve Laws type like, “Oh my god, we’ve got Douglas Carwell on board.” Base base. I mean that I was reacting to a Politics Joe video where they were asking people in Clton about Naja Farage’s policies today and she there was one whole video where she was being dead disingenuous saying like did you know that he wants to make torture legal? She didn’t quite say that but you get the idea. And um the wants to take away your human rights. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the reactions like no he doesn’t or if it wasn’t that it was oh let me see what he actually said. just basically I don’t believe you. But you know, everyone who was talking about immigration, it was always it was always again like we’ve been saying for ages, oh the legal and illegal it’s a difference. They want legal tightened up and everyone who’s here illegally they want gone. Like they do still care about the process, but obviously there’s loads of people who still rub their hands together hoping for a race war despite the fact that largely both sides of the protest are like 90% white. It’s going to be the stupidest race war ever. Anyway, um we deport the communists. I mean, that that’s always been my position. I’ve never seen a reason why because Ethnat’s obviously want Ash Sar deported and I’ve always said, well, we can deport her. Why can’t we deport uh what’s it called? Owen Jones and uh well, oh, he’s he’s English. It’s like, yeah, but him and Ashark are literally the same person. So, whatever. Anyway, anyway, um that’ll do for that. I think it’s time for the news. But first, uh while we’re still Oh, we didn’t do international news. Um Trump’s dead. Then it turned out he wasn’t. Don’t know what that was about. Apparently, he had a row with a contractor. Well, I saw a lot of stuff. It just disappeared from I won’t go into it. Yeah. I don’t know. Well, that’s that’s the excuse that he gives. The other the other more obvious one is that well he’s like 80 and uh is it probably I think so or at least near enough. 78 78. Yeah. Looks really good for that age to be fair. Yeah. Yeah. Um as far as international news JD was JD Vance was here. Yeah. Yeah. That was funny. Uh there were protests in Oh, sorry. Sorry, I was protesting Australia. In Australia? Yeah, Australia. And also, uh, Indonesia. What were they doing in Indonesia? I know. Indonesia. Well, well, the a the Australia one, I know they had a bit of a Nazi problem. Um, to say the least. I was looking at Drew, what’s it called? Drew Pavlov’s uh Drew Pavlov’s one that wasn’t great. Uh well, just I I think Drew Pavof was even told like, “Oh, I was I was told to avoid this area, but I didn’t realize it’d be this bad.” Like they’re asking to have the law crack down on them, which isn’t great. Uh so, uh but what were they doing in Indonesia? I didn’t hear about that one. Uh I think that there was a I think that there was there there were protests about like the the economic uh sort of state of the country and I think if I remember correctly one of the police or army vehicles or whatever ran over a guy who wasn’t even protesting and killed him and that kind of that sounds like a him problem to be honest. Well, he was a delivery guy. He wasn’t even part of it. And so now now he’s effectively been martyed. O uh uh because literally because he wasn’t even part of the uh the the stuff. But yeah, there there is an article I can probably link in the discord later. Um there even the BBC wrote about it. I think the other one as well, I think that there’s actually still an ongoing uh set of protests in Serbia. I believe uh regarding the the uh what was it the uh it was like the rail or the train station or something that collapsed because uh they they outsourced I think the the building of it and the people wanted to have like a little garden on the on the top of like this overhang but they didn’t consider like that soil would hold liquid and so it ended up collapsing under the weight of that and it killed I think a load of people and and I think that that has actually been going on for like a year or so. Uh so it’s not like a week thing but they are I think that is still going about that. Um what else? I feel like there’s a few other things but those are the ones that come to mind. The the last one I’ll touch upon is um Israel seems to have annoyed everyone now. Um, oh, I think I think they’ve overextended. Uh, you know, uh, but then I hear other things, oh, there is food in Gaza. It’s just being like stockpiled by Hamas. It’s I I never know who to trust, unfortunately. I think we’re only going to find out after. So, I think Israel is still going to win. And I think people still be happy about that, even if they don’t want to say it out loud. Well, you know, the leftists won’t. Um but you know they’re now calling up reserveists after ceasefire for like two weeks to get humanitarian aid in. So it’s just going to just going to steamroll them I think. Um oh apparent I’m hearing in the chat Australia calls its own immigration issue a stupid trade deal during co allowed Indians without barriers to move on mass hence 70 to 80% of immigrants a year are from one country. I think that’s true in Canada as well. I think both countries have ended up absolutely hating Indians. Um yeah, that’s what I heard. Yeah, which is which is a you know, it’s a shame. Australia’s got their own problem with China as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, they’re right next to them, aren’t they? Yeah. Um right. Anyway, that’ll be Australia’s not right next to China. I’m sorry. I can’t let you say things like that. All right. Not right next to you, but they are in the thousands of miles away. Is it that far? Yes, they’re right. Island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. They’re right. They’re right under them. Oh, the Philippines and Papa New Guinea is in the way. Yeah, the Philippines. Yeah. The entire Indonesia. Was it Albanese? Yeah. Oh, the these these nothing countries. Yeah. Still that China is the biggest country that is closest to Australia. I think that’s fair to say. Is that okay to say, Tory boy? Are you not upset with that? You want to see it? You can see whatever you want. I’m just saying. Right. Okay. It’s not right next to China, but it is close enough for there to be diplomatic uh issues, I guess. There there are a lot of Chinese spies in the Australian government. There’s a lot there’s Chinese spies everywhere. There’s Chinese spies all over the American military as well. There’s Chinese spies all over ours as well because we let them all into um universities and then Jeremy Hunt marries one. Um Jeremy Hunt has a Chinese wife, but I don’t know. She’s a spy. No, which one was the one that I think it was Fangfang. Which one was that? In America, it was uh Oh, that was the the Republic the Democrat from California. Oh, no. That was such a funny story. It’s like literally about Yeah. What was It’s going to bother me. Anyway, let’s move on. But yeah, that I will remember that eventually and it Yeah, let’s let’s move on to an absolute harion victory. Um, yeah, that’s it’ll catch up. Like my Streamlabs is acting really slow, so I’m not getting right. There we go. It’s okay. So, it is working. That’s good. Uh, right. So, first things first before we properly get into the news. One more meme. I want everyone to listen to this. Are you really pleasantly surprised by reform? Really pleasantly surprised. They are starting to pull out the bag. Don’t Excellent. I I think that’s a really good take from AA. Don’t you? Do we all agree that this is AA’s best take for a while? Because I think it is. Go on, Tori. I go for it. Go on, Tori. It’s funny. It’s It’s funny because it’s actually a similar thing I’ve been thinking the last couple weeks. Well, let’s listen to this bit. Don’t tell Harry and Gaze. I said, “Don’t tell Harry and Geeve.” I gave for guys 10 out of 10 and nine out of 10. He’ll be gloating on on Twitter. Yeah. So, AA, if you do catch this, here’s the clip that people should send. AA tell him to sign this form. It’s free. Anyone can sign it. Uh, Tory Boy, I think you’re going to sign it one day soon, I imagine. I think I’m too stubborn, too. I think you are too stubborn as well. It’s very annoying. I’m looking forward to the redemption arc and we’ll have AA on stream and we’ll all be holding hands and uh bloody hell dancing around the maple. We’ll see about that. We’ll see. We’ll see. But we’ll see how crazy the clown decade gets. Um, it’s still it’s still early days. We’re not halfway through it yet. We are halfway through. What do you mean? It only goes till 2029. I was going to say, when do we class it? It’s 2020 to 2029. When are things started from? Uh, about 2028. 2028. 2029. They they only start getting better right at the end. Yeah. I’m not liking this longitude. Yeah. I don’t like this uh Oh, it’s very skinny. I don’t like this curve. We are we are to be to be fair we are getting some improvements. You know the trans thing like a hockey stick of improvement. Yeah, I know. But we do we do get some white pills every now and then. You know the trans thing we’ve absolutely nailed. I know well we’re going to go through a story about Graeme Lan later but you know it’s not all good but it it it’s only getting better like trust me. Um right. So Nigel Farage softens deportation stance saying family’s not priority. That’s how the Times decided to post post this particular story. um single women arriving in. Why was that softened? I thought that the whole point was that we would start with criminals because because people have got confused between Nigel Farage saying anyone coming over on a boat man, woman or child gets detained and deported and the ones we have to find in the United Kingdom that are already here. We’re going to prioritize finding the men first. That’s what got the times confused. So I don’t understand how that’s that’s not confusing though. It’s they’re journalists. All right. They’re idiots. I was going to say I I if I can get it, they can get it. You know, I’m not not the sharpest to all in the shed unless I’m being paid to be. Someone Someone in chats just said aa to be. They are being paid to be. Oh, that’s true actually. Sorry, Aaron. What were you saying? Uh Balor chats just said Oh, now you go. You’re more important. Oh, no. I was going to say they are being paid to do. That’s That’s grim to think. Aa to be Oh, no. Sorry. I just saw you Aaron. I just saw you read in the chat. Yeah. Aa to be the thy replacement. I don’t think so. Um Oh man, I I I am here to see it. I will I will chronicle it for the history books. Yeah. Um so single women arriving in the UK illegally will be deported under a reformed government and Na Farage has confirmed though he appeared to soften his plans for mass deportations. I mean that that has become common lexicon now I’m here part of the reason I don’t really watch any alternative media anymore is because I watch times radio spectator telegraph as well um and they they were not saying mass deportations at all obviously until after this particular press conference um which again it was said by what’s called Alex Phillips is it she said Nigel Farage is the Overton window uh and that is kind of true and it’s because well it’s got such a reputation for not pushing it too far. He pushes it but he doesn’t push it too far and playing the long game seems to work with the Overton window. Um which well this is a this is a fruit of it. The reform leader sought to clarify the party stance after giving a series of conflicting statements about promising to remove up to 600,000 illegal migrants in the first parliament. Policy entitled operation restoring justice was announced by Farajit an airport in Oxford on Tuesday. I mean, the optics of that were amazing, too. They did it in an air hanger, had this massive departure board. Um, I mean, I even uh the Daily Telegraph was saying, “Yeah, this is just looks really impressive.” And honestly, can’t can’t knock them for this. This is really well put together. I was about to make a very witty joke, but I just I was about to say that one of these names is not like the other, and then I’m thinking, no, one of these names is is actually not like the other. Why is Vietnam there? We’ve had a load of Vietnamese uh one year Vietnamese were like second highest illegal migrants. I think it’s 2023. I might have Well, I was going to say if it was uh if we’re talking like pre90s, I might actually know a family, but um yeah, they were friends of my parents, but uh I think they were actually potentially fleeing like the whole Vietnam thing when that was going down. But anyway, that was a whole different thing. But it is kind of funny that one of these one of these names is literally not like the other. There’s two answers to your question. Why Vietnam? One is because Vietnam a lot of people are leaving but primarily is because Viet Vietnam the North Vietnam won the Vietnam War, right? And so Vietnam to this day is still a communist country. Okay. It’s a one part It’s a one party state propped up by the Chinese government and it’s actually not a very nice place to live. No, it’s I believe it. Yeah, it’s it’s not. It was quite funny. I remember um God, do you remember that socialist with the assets? Let’s say um who she You’re not breaking it down too much. I was going to say that’s several of them. The ginger one. Um well, she Ashley Coffin, I think she was called, but um she used I’ll have to Google this one. She used to Well, she you might need to uh do your face ID. Um Oh, no. But she she did a she did a she did a YouTube video. She used to do YouTube videos like years ago, but I responded to one about how Vietnam dealt with COVID. And I was like, you can’t trust anything coming out of Vietnam because they’re a communist country, one party state. Like, and you know, yeah, sure, there’s some countries screwing up, but ultimately we’re all experimenting with the best way to do it. Look at Sweden. They’ve done really well. Uh, you know, I think New Zealand did too. Maybe it’s to do with the fact they’re not very dense, but yeah, I I do remember going through that and learning quite a bit about Vietnam then. And, uh, I always remember the Top Gear episode there as well, which hopefully should be coming up quite soon on my rewatch of all those cuz, uh, I watched all the Grand Tours up until the end of the road uh, One for the Road, the last one. I was like, I’m going to have to watch all of Top Gear before I do that. Like, I’m going to put myself on a journey for this. Um, so yeah, I’ll be watching that in like two months. All of your all all of it from well, not you know, just the May Hammond and uh Clarkson era. So I’ve skipped season one which had Jason Dor on. Um anyway, Vietnam’s terrible and people should be deported there from there. I don’t I don’t care if it’s human rights violation or whatever. Um because we can’t I mean I’m just happy. I’m just happy that they will admit that uh a communist government is a human rights violation to send them back. Yeah. No, I’m I’m happy to admit I’m happy to agree there. Well, I was going to say as well actually Operation Restoring Justice. I reckon that they were originally going to call that Restore Britain because I I need to find a tweet. Um but someone found out that reform actually had um had a domain called Restore Britain and then obviously Rert Lowe’s Restore Britain came out which you know that there’s some people saying that maybe he did that to try and undermine reform but reform obviously just renamed this from Operation Restore Britain assuming that’s what they were doing first to restoring justice. And I mean either way who cares like the mass deportation thing is what everyone’s calling it. So, so there you go. Um, asked if women and children will be included. He said yes, women and children. Everyone on arrival will be detained. Raj added that he accepted that how we deal with children is a much more complicated and difficult issue. Zia Ysef, a senior figure in reform, a Bron Scotsman, also said phase one would focus on adults and unaccompanied children, would be sent back toward the latter half of the five years because we don’t want the men here. The men are the ones causing the issues. um pressed on whether women and children will be exempt. He said, “I didn’t say exempt forever, but at this stage, it’s not part of our plan for the next 5 years.” Several hours later, he again sought to clarify his comments, saying there had been a slight confusion, and he had not understood the context of the question. He told broadcasters, “Deporting children is a very difficult thing to do. Who do they go to? What are their wards of care? Women and children in intim intimating.” Intimating. Yeah. Yeah. Intimating. Yes. uh families that have been here illegally for some years. Are they the top of our list? No. Asked if women and children will be deported. He said, “If a single woman comes to Britain, they will be detained and deported. If women come with children, we will work uh out the best thing to do.” Again, not you say it quite a lot, Tori, but the these are reasonable things to say and they always get battered for it. To be fair, the Dorrite haven’t really picked up on these uh particular details this time round, but um I don’t really get what what are the times complaining about exactly. I know what they’re complaining about. But but the point is that they’re they’re being hyper pedantic about the exact things that Farage is saying and they’re trying to make it like oh he’s changing his mind or he’s changing things on the fly when actually that’s not what Farage wants to talk about. He wants to talk about you know here is a plan to take the as you say 600,000 mostly young men who have come into the country in the last five five six years and deport them first. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Which I think we’re all on board with. Good. Right. Uh, Green Party announces eco- populist as leader in landslide victory. Yes. Zack Palansky has won. Um, who uh I they surely they mention it. So, he’s a self-described eco- populist and has been elected leader of the Green Party. The 42 year olds fiery debating skills and radical leftwing. He’s 42. Wait, wait, I’ve got it. Was he the one related to the streamer that you were talking about, the socialist one? No. Oh. Uh, that might have been hypnotherapy. Maybe. Maybe. You got me there. So, we’ve as we’ve answered the question. Yes, it does work. Yeah. Do you know um do you know the Greens have leadership elections every two years? I was mad. Why are they so mad? Um so saw him beat the joint ticket of MPs including the incumbent co-leader Adrien Ramsey who ran with Ellie Chows. A month-long ballot of Green members ended on Sunday. It was announced on Tuesday morning that Palansky would lead the party having won 20,411 votes. It was a comfortable victory as Ramsey and Chs took 3,75. The turnout was 37%. Oh my god, that’s He absolutely steamrololled it. It’s not even close. The result will likely add pressure on Labour over how it responds to trailing second in the opinion polls and a possible prolifer proliferation of leftwing voters look to other political parties. Thought you got coros. Um Oh, I didn’t have the story of that. They’ve fallen out over the trans thing. Oh, no. I Yeah. Which one believes in women? I I’m not sure. Yeah. Is that too soon? the MP for Blackburn. Um, is it? Yes, it is. Um, anyway, there we go. We can quickly run through that next. Um, the contest was triggered in May when Carla Denner announced she would step down as co-leader to focus on her duties as MP, having won the seat of Bristol Central and ousted Thang Thanum Debonire, a sitting Labour shadow cabinet minister at the 2024 general election, who they just made a lord and is now in the cabinet anyway. Great. Which I can’t complain too much about because that’s pretty much what Nigel Farage is going to do, I think. Anyway, so I’m not going to complain about it’s absolutely it’s an absolutely beast part of the British political system. Well, that you can just go Chad no and put people who won in place anyway. Exactly like Torist did with Cameron. Why didn’t they Why didn’t they ever put Cla Fox in a position? You know, she seems based. Um, she is a baronire. I know. That’s what I notic in the House of Lords. I listen to her speeches every now and then. Um, I’m glad the Greens aren’t doing the co-leader nonsense. No, I want them to do the co-leader nonsense because they might actually get something done now, and I don’t really want them to cuz they’re awful. Um, anyway, yes, he’s he he does all his debates, but it’s all the same script that the Greens always read off anyway. He’s just better at speaking. He’s just a better ortor. That’s basically all that happens with the Greens. They all literally have the same opinions and then complain that someone doesn’t win a debate and they don’t realize they don’t win debates because their arguments are terrible. Um anyway, it doesn’t I don’t think it mentions it. Yeah. The the main thing that is brought up about Zach is that he used to be a hypnotherapist and part of his hypnotherapy was he offered women the opportunity to uh yeah have hypnotherapy to enlarge their breasts. Um you do you. I’m still trying to work out if it works or not, you know, just for someone someone had statistics. Apparently, it does. So, there you go. Well, there you have it. Um, but I don’t know if that’s a correlation thing. Um, Corbin and Sultana’s party split over trans stance. As if it hadn’t experienced enough splits over the last few weeks, it transpires that Corbyn and Sultana’s new party is divided over policy on trans issues. Your party, not its official name according to a fuming Sultana, is set to have six MPs with four pro Gaza independents to join the group. But while Sultana has insisted she will always speak in support of trans people, one of these and Adnan Hussein stated last week that trans women are not biological women. Talk about trouble in paradise. A I do quite like Ste articles. I just I I it baffles my mind that that people are still trying to push the idea that they are indeed biological women. The the ones that trigger me the most get me hashtag triggered are the ones that actually are medical professionals. I’m like, you know, you know, you’ve spent six years, you know, four of that at least or three or four of that at least is is like general. You know what a biological woman is and somehow you’re still going to try and pull this stuff. I I remember just after uni, one of my friends did um I think it was bio biochemical engineering. No, it wasn’t engineering, like biochemistry or something like that. Basically, so something that’s related to biology. And I started telling her after uni about the feminine penis and she’s like, “What the hell are you on about?” Like that’s not a thing. Like she thought it was joking. Anyway, fast forward like six years or something and we meet up at a mutual friend’s wedding and um I say as a joke at one point, I’m transphobic and then she goes on this rant about how trans women are real women and I’m like wow that only took six years madness. I think I think if I said that now she wouldn’t care. I think it’s it was at the height of the trans madness. Um M but I can’t Who was it? Who was it that did the phrase um one picture two stories? Oh that might have been Jonathan height. I only say that I I only I only say that cuz I heard on Adam and S. Go on. Yeah. And because I basically think of nearly every issue through this lens now. Yeah. which is that Sarah, the reason why you don’t understand it is because they’re using a different meaning for biological. They will see the same words written down that we see, but they will read it completely differently. And it’s it’s it’s it’s I mean I I I actually do think myself I try and get out of my own bias a little bit and I go, well, I try and see their side to things, but sometimes they’re just wrong. And it’s like you we we need to have as a soc if a society can’t agree on the meaning of words then I mean we’re just screwed anyway. Yeah. I think was it Aristotle or whatever that said uh the beginning of wisdom it might have been Socrates but the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name. I can’t remember as well said it. I I don’t know but the Bible says the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord. Oh well. Damn. Uh I mean that that also that also works that’s true but go to church but but um but no it is this it is this sort of postmodern idea of breaking down breaking apart the divisions between things and that includes words because words are used to define and I can actually see what you mean about trying to uh when the word is defined to the word is used to define a specific big phenomena and you’re trying to essentially bend the phenomena and then also bend the word around that phenomena until the two sort of match whatever idea you have. Yeah. Um yeah was it was it was it was it was that person on Twitter India Willoughby who’s famous for being somebody on Twitter. I don’t really understand it, but um No, he he he was Jonathan Willoughby was I think a news readader and then went trans. Oh yeah. But you know, and then was on the term but saying but saying I am a biological woman. It’s like okay you’ve had surgery, you’ve had you’ve taken hormones. I understand that that has changed certain aspects of your biology but that’s not what we mean by biological. Yeah. Well, it’s like it’s like me when I say I’m an angller. [Laughter] Um, anyway, Allan’s corrected us. It was actually Scott Adams who if there’s two people cited all the time by Sitchin Adam, it’s Scott Adams and Jonathan Height. So, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Um, also it was uh it was Socrates. The beginning of wisdom is the definition of terms. That was actually the the term that I was looking at. Yeah. Anyway, but yeah. Anyway. Yeah. But long story short, Sultana says trans women are women. Hussein does a Chad know. Um yeah, which which is a really funny thing like you know I really don’t like the Gaza independence and it shows a really shocking direction of our politics in Britain. At the same time at least they’re doing some base stuff and wasting time for the left. Uh right. Kim Bay stands by disputed Stanford offer claims. She’s boring. She’s just awful. She’s just sorry Tori, but I felt like I had to include a Tory story here and this was the only interesting one. Um, Chem Bay has insisted she was offered to place at Stanford at university age 16 after the university’s admissions officer at the time said her claim was untrue. Tory Park leader said that she had done very well in her exams. She got what BCD was it? Two B’s and a D. D was in maths. No way she’s getting a scholarship on that. Um, unless it’s like Stanford Polytenic. Um, anyway, she’d offered a partial scholarship to the elite California institution. Bayu lived in Nigeria until the age of 16. As previously said, she was offered a place to study in preparation for a medical degree at Stanford, but her family was unable to afford for her to take it up. Isn’t her family from like the elites of Nigeria, though? I don’t know. Yeah, but I they’re not actually that wealthy. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I’ve never I’ve never seen any proof that her family has any like money. It’s just that they come from a certain kind of middle class strata. Yeah. All right. Fair enough. Um instead, she returned to England and studied at a further education college before a degree in computer systems engineering at Sussex. The Guardian reported former officials at the university casted doubt in her claim. John Reiner then responsible for admitting international students and the allocation of burseries told the newspaper although 30 years have passed I would definitely remember if we admitted a Nigerian student with any financial aid the answer is we did not do so it’s even beyond that is no Nigerians were allowed 30 years ago yeah I don’t know how someone remembers that sort of thing you you’d be surprised actually I I I think admitting Nigerians 30 years ago was so unique that yeah, he just he’d remember it. Um but yeah, obviously she claims she got the scholarship there, but it turns out probably not true. Um but at the same time, when she was doing exams here, she obviously stood up and said that man’s that boy’s cheating and the boy got expelled. I’m going to be honest, I don’t know why there was so much hate for Bane not doing that. I I I didn’t think that was the worst thing she could have said. And I don’t think it’s Yeah, I don’t think it’s that I suppose the young English part of it is standing up in the middle of the exam, say it, you know, you say it quietly after, I guess. But I think I think snitching’s okay. I think we actually quite like snitching on like people who break the rule rules to be honest with you. Anyway, as I found out during co Oh, yeah. Sorry, what was that Tori? Oh, Tori, I’m pro snitching because of course I’m in favor of the police. Apart from what one I will leave that with you. Have you Have you got a license for that opinion? Tori, I try and avoid it. Uh UK borrowing costs hit 27year high adding pressure onto Reeves. What you a fan of Reeves? Think about that. But think about that 20 whatever billion black hole. It’s gone up to 40 odd now. Oh well. Can’t even lay that at the feet of the Tories. Sorry Tori, what were you saying? I was just say I’ve been thinking a lot about kind of people who are in the cabinet. I’ve had an epiphany just today that we are living in a generation X occupied government and it’s somehow worse than the boomer one. Yeah. Wait until the millennials are in Zia that was my question. Is Zia Ysef Gen X or millennial? Oh, he’s millennial. He’s 32. Exactly. He’s younger than me. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. He’s Yeah, he’s 32. He’s quite young. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He’s He’s He’s good. He looks way older than I do. I don’t know if that just comes with the territory. I think that I think I think that comes with being a uh millionaire CEO to be honest with you. Um Yeah, cuz he he looks knackered. Yeah, he does. Yeah. I mean, so do I, but I He looks older than I do. Jeez. Yeah. Also in a suit and tie. Yeah, that makes Yeah, I look like I’m a school boy, though, which doesn’t help. Well, yeah, but you are basically a school boy. I’m 29. Um Oh jeez. Yeah. Anyway, I keep forgetting this. UK government borrowing costs have reached their highest level since 98, adding to the pressure on the chancellor ahead of the budget. The interest rates on 30-year government bonds known as the yield jumped to 5.7% making it more expensive for the government to borrow money. That’s worse than Liz Trust Rachel Reeves officially crash the economy. You know, obviously that means we need higher taxes. You know, it’s going to be great. Sorry. Have we ended up in a situation where we basically have a socialist government? Was the government before basically socialist? So, so there was this election that happened in 2024. Yeah. where voters did not listen to all of the advice they were given and voted for a madman. Oh, no, no, no. You got the you got the year wrong. You’re thinking of Cameron. It was 2015. He’s got you there. I mean, I like I do blame it on Blair, but Cameron was meant to be the rebound and he was like, “You know what? This is great. We’re going to just carry on as is.” That’s not what happened. Am I gonna have Am I gonna have to get my PowerPoint presentation out? You can do it, but then I’ll just get out my uh rainbow flag and say this is where it started. And uh it didn’t start under Blair. I don’t think it started under Cameron. But anyway, it definitely started under Blair, though. That’s that’s a whole different point. Well, it it definitely started under Blair, but you know, when you got Osborne and Cameron saying we we’re the heir to Blair, you know. Yeah. Did you hear Jacob Roose Mog? um answering questions. I think it was yesterday. Tori boy, he he has it’s quite a good uh little bit, but he does basically say um uh Tori’s governed terribly for 14 years. We deserve to lose and it’s all because um we were conservative when fighting against uh Tony Blair in all the elections up till 2010. And in 2010, basically thanks to Cameron and Osborne, they decided don’t have any sort of narrative against the revisionism. Go on then. Watch your take. What’s your take? In 2010, they formed a coalition with the Liberal Democrats and that hampered what they could do. Why does no one remember the coalition? I remember it was such a big thing. It h took five years of my life up, you know. So why I mean you got to remember I I I do remember that I was a Tory up until uh probably up until about Boris. I was also a Tory. I remember I remember the coalition. I remember the I’m so so sorry the uh the remix that they made of the liberal democrat which he never lived down and I don’t think that he ever which was hilarious but yeah I remember the coalition but I always understood it as the Tories basically steamrolled whatever the liberal democrat part of the party were and they didn’t allow for because because the one thing that because haron we spoke about it recently I think He said how the one thing that uh was shoved onto the Liberal Democrats at the time was the uh university fees and but it was a complete it was a Tory idea but for some reason the the libs had the lib dems had to take the fall for that I remember. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Um I mean let’s not let’s not let’s not uh you know relitigate the 2010. I just I just want to ask then um 2015 onwards why didn’t they do what they promised in 2010 then if they were so conservative. Well if you remember in 2015 they they won a small majority and were surprised to win that. Had no idea what they were going to do with the majority they had. And then there was a little thing called the European referendum that happened in 2016. I remember David Cameron resigned. So thrown into chaos. Ah well I mean Theresa May did actually try and do that but wasn’t very good at it. And then she lost her job because of that. So So I mean I mean just years was spent arguing about almost nothing that nobody can even remember what happened. I mean let’s be fair. When was gay marriage? 2013, I think. Okay. You’re gonna try and blame that on the Lib Dems. No, it’s David Cameron’s idea. There we go. Right. So, I was in favor of it. Well, I’m not being funny. Right. We are throwing We are throwing all of this onto Mog’s revisionism. I don’t even care. David Cameron, massive lib. I guess that’s what I guess I guess that’s what I guess that’s what happens when you uh have relations with a dead pig. Uh go on, Tori. Oh. Speaking of Jacob Reese Mong, I don’t know if you’re going to cover the uh the funny video of him peering over the wall. Oh, no. We can bring it up when we get to that section. So, I’d wait on that. But that he did bring that up as well, though. Um I’m primed. Yeah, for now. I think we’ll get back to Labor. Um on the currency market, the pound also fell more than a percent against the dollar on Tuesday morning. It fell to $1.34 which is its lowest level against the US currency since the 7th of August. Susanna Street, head of money and markets Greavves Landsdown said the chancellor faced highly difficult choices in the budget and that she had been dealt a warning by investors. They’re selling off UK debt clearly concerned that the government may be losing its grip on public finances. His manifesto, Labour promised not to raise taxes such as income tax, VAT or national insurance on working people. And this has led to much speculation over what Reeves could raise in the autumn budget. Well, they should cut, shouldn’t they? But the backbenches kept rebelling. I was about to ask, why are they not just cutting the public sector? Because the backbenches are mental who say, “Oh, it’s only 10 billion. Why do we need to raise taxes?” Because they’re morons, so complete and utter incompetent morons who do not know how public finances work because they don’t re they’re all MMTers. So they they think, “Oh, you know, just money print. It’ll be fine. and just raise the taxes. That’ll sort it out. But then all that’s doing is money printing with extra steps. So why not just have it at like a household economy anyway? Even Max Tempers, who used to be a s for the MMT side of things, has been like, well, clearly this isn’t working anymore. He’s a finance work. I just don’t understand what fundamentally MMT does work because Wait for it. wait for it because I I the point the point Mnt says that if you spend too much money, you just need to tax it at the other end to take it out of the economy and then for debt doesn’t matter. It’s because inflation is a tax. It’s just well tax is deflationary, right? That’s the idea. It takes it out the money out the money cycle. But it’s getting the whole thing backwards though. Like they assume the government just has infinite money to spend and then when it’s too much you tax it. Well, we’re at the point now where they are spending too much for too long and now they’re trying to tax even more, but you can’t just tax at the other end because people leave the country. And then you have the Guardian saying you had the Guardian writing articles saying that inflation itself is the tax. Yeah, I know they will inflate they will inflate they’ll inflate the debt away, which means that it doesn’t become a problem. But all that all that means is that living standards go down, but you’re it’s hidden from you because you’re not seeing it happen um in pounds and pence figures. You’re seeing it happen through uh inflation and and the thing is but you can only do that for so long. Yeah. Yeah. Because political reality you always mentioned the ler curve. Yeah. Like there’s only so much you can actually tax. Well that yeah that I mean that’s a bit different but that’s yeah it’s more you get diminishing returns on tax. Um well the the LER curve is why you don’t you don’t do it through normal taxation, you do it through inflation because the LER curve means if you increase taxes you get less economic activity. But with inflation you get the same amount of economic activity. It’s just that everything is worth less. So the debt is worth less. But then that’s the thing they try and balance out the inflation through taxation because taxation is deflationary because it pulls money out of the Yes. out of the economy. Yes. But then they won’t allow any deflation then because oh we don’t want people saving we need people spending. But then it’s like but people need to say to buy houses and stuff like that. I just it’s madness. Yeah it’s it’s stupid. We need to go back to monitoriism. Give me neocherism. But I will I will say thank you Bori because you did clear some stuff up there and I I did actually yeah I actually hadn’t seen some of those uh things about uh I mean I’m still massively against mon monetary theory but like I I I actually understand it better now. Well, they always use the sync analogy, but again, it’s it’s they’ve got it they’ve got it backwards. Like government doesn’t have money until it’s taxed, but obviously they can do because they have the money printer. But then, as you say, the problem is you keep the money printer going forever, you hit 11% inflation. Everyone hates you and won’t vote for you again, which is pretty much what happened to the Tories. Um, the only place it can work is America because they’re the hedgeimon. It can work there, but even they can I’m not sure. I think that’s actually uh well people keep keep saying it because it hasn’t broken down in America yet but actually America will still get to the same point just takes longer. Yeah. But but yeah but I mean we’ve we’ve been we’ve been doing this for what 70 years now and so it’s catching I mean there’s a reason why people I remember back in the early 2000s when I would say things like this and people be like you’re just that’s crazy talk you can’t that’s just right-wing economics. Like, but we’re now getting to the point where you just literally see it happening in front of your eyes like like and voters are now voting accordingly. But it’s taken them like 70 years to find out about it. That was trying to fix the issue. Or if some people might say that was the problem because allowed things to go on longer because accelerationism is actually is the correct thing to do. Well, I don’t agree. Well, no, she would have fixed the whole thing, but then Blair happened. There, I said it. Um, yeah, I mean, so much gets put on Margaret Thatcher that just was not her fault. Like, I I get fed up with it. Anyway, um, so yeah, uh, the old basically, yeah, your taxs are going up. That’s what you need to learn from this because Labor cannot do anything with the economy. Um, as to be fair, you know, the Tories did warn. Uh, unfortunately the Tories put us in a mess as well, so why would anyone listen to them? Um, oh yeah, there’s a bit of a labor reshuffle as well. Um, again, this is kind of in the news and all I’m really ever hearing anyone say is I don’t really care. It like Okay, actually no, they do kind of care. So, one who’s been changed is director of communications. That’s the fourth change of that in five years or fifth change in four years, I can’t remember. Um, couple of people in Treasury have been swapped over as well because obviously the economy is a mess. And what I’m hearing from people on like Times Radio and things like that is basically, oh, I don’t really care. This looks like a government in complete disarray. And it looks like they’re going to do what they can to hang on to power anyway. But a lot of people are very open about Angela Raina probably being the next prime minister, possibly wasting, which obviously Yeah. Which obviously Z Yousef and people like that have said, “God, hold on to your hat. That’s going to be worse.” Yeah, cuz um apparently number 10 insiders are saying um what’s it called? Angela Raina is actually quite good in terms of she kind of gets stuff done and actually pushes for work to be done. But then at the same time, the punch line, well, at the same time, how like she’s got a target of 1.5 million houses to be built and she’s never going to reach that. So, I don’t I don’t think that’s true. You have to slash regulation to such a degree. Oh, yes. And also, not to mention the sheer amount of one thing that people don’t seem to realize is that the the level of damage that COVID lockdowns did to our economy. It’s hard. it it’s sort of hard to sort of quantify even now stuff like uh supply chains even like material costs. So material costs I don’t think have even really recovered since co stuff like studwood concrete that kind of thing. Well that’s that’s also because of HS2 to be fair because all the concrete in Britain goes there. Well, yeah. I didn’t even think of that. But I mean, but yeah, just that stuff on its own, it building itself has become more expensive. I mean, I know because I’ve been trying to source wood for my carpentry hobby and and that’s been a nightmare as well. Oh. Um, what was it? Uh, oh, I I know I have friends and family that have been looking at extensions and I know I know uh my friends down in London, they want to extend their kitchen by 5T. £80,000 and that’s just for one story. Lord. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just not worth it. It’s just not worth it. How many bricks are in 1.5 million houses? I know a couple who probably are. Yes. Wait, do you mean that that’s worth 1.5 million houses or how many bricks can you fit in 1.5 million houses? No, no. How many bricks? Oh, how many bricks? No idea. It’s like four times the number of bricks the country produces in any one year. Oh, that’s Well, she has five years to do it. Yeah, but we would be like there’s not enough material in the country to like do this, you uh we would be importing and importing is that just adds an extra layer of of expense that’s just astronomical especially for something like bricks because uh it’s it’s not it’s it’s heavy in comparison to how much it’s worth anyway you know it’s like toilet paper it’s something that you want to buy domestically in the 19th century used to have local brick factories because it was so heavy to transport in places yeah exactly sorry um stars brought baroness shaft a former deputy governor of the Bank of England as his official economic adviser after criticism of the lack of expertise in Downing Street. What if her advice is just you’re screwed? Like you literally can’t you have to cut something and you can’t like you can’t do anything. What then? Hello Portra. Also, there’s 30 people watching and only 10 likes. What’s going on? People like the video. I just realized I’ve been neglecting the chat. Sorry, I need to uh but also Alan did correct me. Yes, we obviously got Major in between Thatcher and Blair and Major was a bit of a disaster as well. Yes, I understand forgot about Major. Don’t don’t worry about that. I did remember. But Blair was really the one who accelerated the terribleness. Like Black Wednesday was bad, but I think the 2008 crash was worse. Um I was about to say 70 quid. Like EC91, but no, you corrected to 70K. I was like 70 quid. The Labour actually think Raina would be any better? Yeah, they do for the simple fact that Raina’s really personable. I mean that that picture of her vaping on the dingy, you know, my snobbyess comes out, sure, but people actually really like that because she seems like an actual person, not a robot like Star. It’s all about vibes. I mean, Tory Boy had a rant the other day about it’s all about vibes, isn’t it? Yes, Tori, we keep telling you that. And also, I think that the problem is that they don’t exactly have another option. If if if Rain of drops through, then I think the party probably implodes. It’s not that they even have options. Well, they do. They have Wes Streeting, but it’s too continuity, I think, for a lot of them cuz Wes Streeting very much is Blue Labor. I think it depends on cuz because it’s going to be a vote of the membership, right? Yes. Uh well, it it’s a bit like the Tories where I think they get nominated by MPs first. Yeah. But like the candidates I mean if Kier Farmer resigns then either Angela Rain will be appointed the only candidate or there’ll be a contest and If it’s Angela Rainer versus Wes Streeting, you have to imagine the kind of people who are members of the Labor Party will vote for Angela Rener. But at the same time, I’ve never so far lost by saying they’re never going to vote for a woman. [Laughter] Uh every every time like I’m just like, “Oh, of course the woman’s not going to win because it’s a Labor party.” Why do they have a woman problem? I don’t know. you asking? I don’t know things. I’m just I’m just asking in general, but it’s true. Like I thought a woman was going to be leader and then Starmer got in. And Star only got in in 2015. The only reason he got a safe seat in St. Pancress was because Ed Milliban wanted him as attorney general. It’s the only reason he’s an MP. Do do you remember when it was like it was the leadership was Kier Starmer versus like four women? Yeah. And he won. I was like, well, that’s good odds for the women. Yeah. He beat them all. Oh, okay. Yeah, but he’s really boring. It doesn’t help how much like my daddy looks, but you know. Um, anyway, tax advisor look like her mother. Listen, only because they’re both ginger. Tax advisers cast doubt on Angela Raina’s housing arrangements. Um, no, my mom, I’d say my mom looks a bit prettier than Angela Raina. Um, further questions were raised over Raina’s property arrangements as tax experts cast out on whether she should be entitled to a 40,000 reduction in stamp duty. Yeah. Um, obviously Angela Rain is queen of the second homes are absolutely awful. Anyway, she’s just bought a third. Um, and obviously tax avoidance. She’s literally said before avoiding tax gets people killed. Like she’s unironically said that and here she is avoiding tax. It It’s not illegal what she’s done. It’s perfectly legal, but it is avoiding tax, which is the legal one. From Brighton. Yeah, she No, it’s in Hoveve. Oh, all right. That everyone’s very very specific on this. It’s not Brighton, it’s Hoveve. But also, yeah, Hove is the Ridge Pod. I remember cuz I used to work near that. Well, another point of this is um Brighton and Hoves is a very safe labor seat. No, it’s a very No, it’s it was a safe green seat. Yeah, it was a safe green seat, but I think it’s gone to Labor. Um, well, no, well, no, cuz because Brighton has more than one seat. So, it was it was Brighton Pavilion was the green part was the city center of Brighton, whereas the Hoveve part was a labor conservative marginal at one point. I think it’s full on I think it’s a labor safe at this point. Well, it might. Everything’s a labor safe seat at this point. No, no, there’s no before it was. Yes, there’s no such thing as a safe seat anymore. Only taken a year for that to change. Imagine if Sebm Imagine if Seb Payne finally gets a seat that’s supposedly safe and he loses to reform. Funny the L. How’s he aged 20 years in a year? At the start of 2024, he he looked 20 odd. Then at the end of it, he looks 60. I mean, it was a very tough year for him. What did he do? What did what did Michael Gove do to him? I mean, I feel that, but it’s like I don’t know. Anyway, she um she dodged the higher rate of stamp duty applied to second homes by declaring that the flat she bought earlier this summer in Hoveve uh was the only one she owned. Two months earlier, she forfeited her stake in a constituency home in Ashton Underline, which she bought in 2016 with her former husband. In 2023, the couple split the ownership with a trust administered by the law firm Shoesmiths Trust Corporation, which is understood they did so in place of some of the house equity and trust for their children. Yeah, that house was um she avoided stamp duty on that as well, didn’t she? Because she had a council house uh that she obviously had right to buy even though she hates that. And then um she sold that to move in with her husband and I think avoided tax on that somehow. And HMRC looked into it and basically said, “Oh, we’re not bothering.” So yeah, that was another legal thing that was avoiding tax. Great. Mhm. What’s more liberal, Brighton or Bristol? Probably Brighton. Brighton’s like the gay center of Britain. Uh that’s actually a hard one because I used to I think Oh, Bristol’s much bigger. Bristol. Yeah, I think Brighton. So, Bristol has a very liberal part of it, which is like the center, but Brighton is that entire like all of Brighton is that, but it’s about the same size as the center of Bristol. Yeah, I I think you’re right. It Yeah. From you got like a lot more like events and stuff that are sort of known internationally in Brighton. Um Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but they’re both pretty like it’s like it’s got like the biggest LGBT uh pride parade or whatever. Um is that is Brighton the only the only one of those in the world? I always think like does every country have their own like town where all the gays move to? Yeah. Um it’s San Francisco in America. Oh yeah. It’s one of my favorite Simpsons jokes where uh Castro talks about America and he says uh America’s not so bad. They named a street after me and someone whispers in his ear and he says, “It’s full of what?” Cuz it’s the gay street. Um, it’s a really good episode that actually where they go to Cuba. Um anyway, tax experts on Monday night, uh sorry, tax experts said on Monday night that depending on what sort of trust was set up, given the two of her children are under 18, Raina may still be considered to own an interest in the property and this would mean that she would not have been eligible for the low rate of stamp duty. Um I’m not being funny, but either way, it doesn’t really matter any of that. Raina’s whole thing is the rich constantly dodge tax and it gets people killed. That’s exactly what she’s done here. like it’s the hypocrisy more than the legal legality. If it’s illegal, like, oh, that’s a bonus, but it’s the hypoc hypocrisy story. And it was really funny as well. Uh I think Christian Calgary was on um Spectator TV and he’s noticed like Labour just aren’t used to being in government because um I’m constantly obviously asking them questions and I’ve had texts back from some insiders saying like, “Why why are you focusing so much on these stories? Why do you want comments on it?” And um he basically has to tell them, well, when you’re in government, you are way more scrutinized because you you’re running the country. You just have to deal with it and answer our questions and just hate it. And this is what’s happened to Raina and I don’t think she’s used to it. Um having said that, it’s making her crazy. Crazy how they just didn’t No, I think crazy how they just didn’t think about that. Like I I like everyone knows I just don’t understand like everyone knows that like being in government is tough and hard and actually the Conservative party had a really tough time and they made it look quite easy in a lot of ways until that’s because they didn’t do anything. Well, it makes it a lot easier. But but like but like I said I’ve been saying this for years that the Labor Party is eventually going to win an election and the first thing they’re going to find is that all of the things they’re complaining about are then going to become their problem and they’re not going to do anything about it because it’s impossible to fix these problems. And voters don’t care that things are impossible to do. They just want you to do it anyway. It’s like I I I honestly believe and I’ve said this for a long time that governing in the 21st century is almost impossible because we live a 24-hour news cycle where you constantly have to be there is literally no human ability for politicians to be on top of their game all of the time enough to please the average voter. So, how do you explain Farage? Well, he’s not in government. Far I keep saying I I keep saying the same thing about Farage. When they win the next election, the reform are going to have an absolute ton of problems. Yeah, probably. Well, we’ve actually already seen it to some extent where seen it in council the Well, I was going to say before that when the rhetoric when they finally got like a seat and the rhetoric had to be dumped. This was where the online right kind of had their problem with it where the rhetoric had to be dumbed down a little bit uh when they first had their couple of seats. Mhm. And you had to mention that well they’re maileing it because you know their their position in the government is is temperamental at best of the at the early stages especially and you don’t want to scare away the average voter. It was said it was said really well by ganeer like what Farage does is um because according to Gane net zero has been a pet hate of Farages for decades. He’s hated the climate action for ages. But he’s he’s always said don’t say anything about it. We’re just not in a position to actually do anything about it and it’s not particularly popular to go against. You get to the point now where energy bills are through the roof and throw Richard Ty out to basically say we’re uh not giving any more subsidies to wind farms and we’ll put Dale Vince in jail and it’s the most based thing ever. And this is why obviously now we’ve got AA basically saying Harian was right. And a lot of people are going to be saying that over time I think. Um and it’s once again it’s very difficult for me not to be smug but you know you can’t see it but here’s my smug face. I think I can hear it. Yeah, but but no, I completely understand. But but I was going to say that to to Tori’s point, I think that there will be a reckoning when when Farage finally does uh when he is voted in, there will be a reckoning there. And the question that we all have will be will he rise to it or will it crush him like you know so many other politicians we had faith in? Well, from what we’ve seen of Farage so far, he tends to thrive under pressure. But we thought the same thing of Boris Johnson, so don’t get me wrong. I I understand the worry. Um, but I don’t I don’t see the point in really thinking about it till it actually happens, to be honest. It’s like, well, if it happens, well, I can’t do anything. So, who cares? Um, anyway, Home Office threatened to deport foreign students overstaying visas. Why don’t they just deport them? I think because they can’t because the ECHR would probably get in the way. Um about 132,000 adult students and their families who are in the UK legally but nearing the end of their studies will be contacted by the home office via text and email warning them that they will be removed if they remain in the country unlawfully. It’s first move of its kind which the home secretary of Cooper said would help clamp down on misuse of the asylum system. Cooper said that the thing is though like misuse the asylum system but what if they do go through the asylum system? What’s actually going to stop like warn them to go away or what? Go into the asylum system. Like, how’s that going to help? Is this a stupid move, Tori? I feel this is a stupid move. They already get a letter that says this. This is just saying they’re going to get an email and a text, right? I didn’t realize they already got a letter. Um, thinking back to it, I probably should have known that cuz I live with a foreign student um who had no who had no interest in staying anyway cuz it was too cold for him. was from Cyprus. Um, so if you submit an asylum claim that lacks merit, it will be swiftly and robustly refused. That’s not true. Any request for asylum support will be assessed against destitution criteria. You don’t meet criteria will not receive a support. If you have no legal right to remain in the UK, you must leave. If you don’t, we will remove you. How many people have they I think they’ve forcibly removed a few thousand. I think that’s been it. out of the 30 odd thousand they’ve basically had to pay people to go or they’ve been voluntary. Um, which is quite funny because that’s what remigrationists were saying for decades. I’ll just pay people to go back. They’re doing that now and they’re not happy. And I think Steve Laws and that lot are soon going to be launching another movement called the remigration now. I don’t know why they need so many movements. Why not? They’ve also said they want to do entryism into restore. So, why make another thing? Just actually take over a store. Down. Uh, it’s Lowe’s. Sorry. Roberto loans. Which one’s Benhabib? That’s advance. That’s the toothpaste looking one. Oh my goodness. I mean, people remember all these. I remember it because I’m it constantly comes up on my Twitter. Uh, because I I laugh at them a lot. Plus, I’m in a couple of groups. Lawrence Fox was reclaimed. Yes, Lawrence Fox was reclaimed. Uh, who was the black guy? He was Heritage. Um, David Curt David Curtain was a uh heritage. He remembers because that’s Harry’s flavor of autism. Yeah. Katherine. Yeah. Katherine Blake. She’s English Democrats. That’s another one. Does she know? Oh, yeah. Uh, yeah. She ran the RunORN bi-election, got 95 votes on the English Democrats. I can’t tell you how mad I would have been if like all these alternative right like you kept running it. That’s Techaloney or whatever the Italian name is. It was six votes, wasn’t it? Six votes. It if that was because it was split by all these idiots trying to go in trying to prove a point. I I I would have been so mad. It is kind of It is kind of crazy how much that runorn bi-election has affected things as well. Oh, it’s mad. It is the best thing that could have happened to reform because I really like Sarah Poachin as well. Not just because she’s um obviously a Cheshire housewife. Um but no, she like she again reform guiding the Overton window. I’ve not heard anyone talk about female police officers like probably on shouldn’t be, you know, doing the beat themselves. Never heard that before until Sarah Poaching came in and then I heard it on Spectator Telegraph Times. I I heard it everywhere. It’s obviously out the uh it’s obviously out the conversation now. But those seeds being thrown in of Sarah poaching throwing these things out. Great. And then everyone goes nuts her because she doesn’t have an opinion on digital ID cards, which is a very popular boomer opinion by the way. The boomers really want ID cards. So it’s not even that mad. It’s just for the crazy onlineers who don’t want it for good reason. By the way, I’m also against it. Anyway, on to the big story. Um the Bell Hotel and Eping wins appeal to overturn an asylum injunction. Uh how has it happened? Basically, yeah, the Supreme Court has decided that in fact, yes, the illegal migrants rights trump that of the locals. Um I think there’s two injunctions technically. One was a temporary one that said they had to be out in like 20 days, but there’s another one that’s more long-term by the planning um planning issue, which I I don’t think they have overturned yet. Um literally some commie Fabian that that actually one one was one was one was chairman of a labor group whatever another was they’re all Fabians basically um but yeah everyone’s mad about it apart from the home office I heard a vet Cooper today coping and seething saying oh no we definitely want to close the hotels it just takes time I think the thing is they they don’t want this to close because it means getting very expensive HMOs um which obviously they want to kind of bring the price down a bit I’d imagine But also, HMOs are just objectively worse. Uh, but the thing is is that everyone’s going to protest them being here anyway. So, why not just deport them because they’re in the ECHR? Why not leave the ECR? Because K Star loves it. He’s built his entire career defending it. Was it Cummings or or maybe one of the conversations we had, but it just like why does it take so long? Does it take so long because it actually takes long or does it just take a long time because people don’t want to do things or why does what takes long? Like all of these things is like oh you know we want to do something about this but you know it just takes a long time. It’s like well why does it take a long time? Oh because um Czech rece kind of answers this. It’s basically because a minister will come along and say no you can’t do this that and the other because of uh these laws and then they don’t want to change the laws because they want to keep the system going as it is. It used they apparently they used to say it’s because the EU doesn’t let us. Obviously that’s gone for some years now. Um but they’ve just got too used to not being able to do anything. That seems to be the case because not being funny right Becca, you know, in in the workplace example, if you really want to get something done, and I don’t recommend it doing this way, but if you want to get something done, you can pull an allnighter and it gets done. You know what I mean? if if people wanted to get things done. It’s not it’s not it’s not so much about like it’s more about willpower rather than laziness. Well, that’s what I’m that’s what I mean because they just don’t have the will for it. Well, no. Like honestly, when Parliament’s open again, they’re talking about keeping it open and eating into the uh Christmas recess just to get things done. Like they will work longer when they want to get things done, but the thing is they they can’t overturn basic things like the ECR because headlines will be bad. Um, I guess the only problem I mean to be fair like Dominic Rob and Pretty Patel had this issue where then when you actually try and do things Yeah. the civil service will cry, say you’re a bully and then get rid of you. Like to be fair, that did happen to both of them. To give Tory Boyers credit, you know, there I agree. And and I guess the the the caveat to that as well is that I I’m actually I would prefer if there was more sort of stop checks and stops for uh you know, labor because I actually don’t want them to do the things that they want to do. So, you know, I guess it’s two sides of the same coin. But yeah, I I think that the problem, you know, with the the Tories and the thing that people are worried about with reform is that, you know, they might say something, but they just won’t have the will to take it through. So, that’s the I think that that’s the fear. Yeah. Well, anyway, um a Belt Hotel security guard posed with guns and cash on social media. I I hope they’re airsoft, but I can’t tell. Um, so yeah, security guard at the Essex Migrant Hotel at the center of an anti-immigration protest has been suspended after social media tell you. Well, I I should be able to tell you, but I don’t think they are. Uh, showing him posed with guns and cash. Amjad Khn, originally from Pakistan, worked at the Bell Hotel in Eping. He posted a pitch on social media platforms such as Instagram and Snapchat, including images and videos of a black shotgun, a handgun, and an assault rifle. Excuse me. Where’s the shotgun? Uh, I think it’s on the left. That’s a It is. Yeah. So, it’s a weird muzzle break. I guess it could be a fair point, actually. Yeah. No, no, I see what you mean, actually. Yeah, I didn’t look at the muzzle break, but that’s an MP5. Yeah. And I I Yeah. The thing is is that nobody knows anything about guns in the media, so they’ll just say shotgun. It’s like the breach is not big enough. No, I think you’re right, actually. Yeah, we’re massive gun nerds. We need Jonathan Ferguson. Well, I I I haven’t been to my club in a little while, but we didn’t I didn’t really do much with shotguns. It was mostly with rifles. So, they’re they’re AKs. I can’t exactly tell what type that that’s very obvious. Um that’s a AR-15 variant. It does look like an M6. Yeah. Yeah. Either an M Either way. Oh, wait. No, no. Sorry. Go up. Go up. There you go. That’s the shotgun there. Uh that Yeah, probably. On the left. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. So, it’s still a magazine fed, but yeah, that makes more sense. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That might be the same gun, actually. Maybe. I don’t know. The lighting is weird. Who knows? The brace The brace looks different actually. Sorry. I’m not going to get conf I’m going to get Listen, listen. We’ll do we’ll do we’ll do a tosh talks on our favorite guns one day. Um Oh, for me it’s quite easy. Um so they appear to have been taken while karma’s in Pakistan. Well, that makes sense given that it’s Pakistani money and where you going to get assault rifles and shotguns like this in Britain? Um the Bell Hotel. I was about to make a joke about Vietnam, but then I thought maybe uh no, too soon. Um, the Bell Hotel is owned by Sanmani Hotels and managed by CTM North Limited under a contract with the Home Office. Security guards provided to CTM by a subcontractor called Supreme’s facilities. On Saturday evening, Andy Lane, the managing director, confirmed that Khan had been suspended and investigation have been open. Lane said the officer is an employee of Supreme Facilities Limited and is currently suspended pending a formal investigation. I’m going to be honest with you, I just I don’t want the guy doing security because I like I assume he’s here legally. fair, but I don’t think he probably I he probably shouldn’t have been. I don’t really care that he’s posed with guns and money. I think he should be able to be a security guard and post pictures like this, frankly, as long as he’s not shot a kid. I mean, to be fair, his trigger discipline’s awful. Assuming that’s him, but um yeah, you know what what what do you think? Uh Tori, I’ve never really understood these sorts of stories. I’ve never really got it. But um well one one social media post can ruin your entire life apparently. So whatever. Does that not scare you? I mean yeah it’s pretty scary but you know that’s the life. That’s the world we live in now. So you know I was going to say to be fair if you’re an FAC I I do not know if he’s an FAC holder firearm certificate. Uh sorry in chat. Yeah, if he’s if he’s an FAC holder, you are under incredible scrutiny. So, I don’t think it is illegal for you to take pictures of you with your guns. But if you take any sort of picture with you with your guns and the uh like law enforcement have any idea any reason to believe number one, has anybody other than you touched your guns? Are you being negligent in any way? But that’s in this country. Yeah. I’m saying this is in this country. So I don’t it’s are these pictures taken are these all pictures not taken in this country? No no this I’m presuming this is done in Pakistan. Okay. So the I guess the only caveat there would be yeah if that’s the case then I don’t care personally. But the the other thing here is that is does he have firearms in this country and is that potentially you know has he demonstrated uh you know good gun safety? You know, is there anything to say that he might be trustworthy in this country? That’s a police matter. That’s not for his employer. Um, depending on his Yeah, generally speaking, yes, but it would be So, wait, wait. Are you saying that he Did I miss what he said? Did he lose his job because of these pictures? He’s been suspended. Suspended. Okay. Yeah, that’s a bit whatever that means. But, you know. Yeah. Yeah. No. Sorry, I I think I I misunderstood because I thought these pictures had been taken in this country, in which case I was just thinking that’s uh cuz if any of these are automatic, then that’s like a a crime. So um yeah, I think I mean it doesn’t it doesn’t look good, does it? I mean it’s not stuff you really want to be posting on the the internet. Um, but he’s only really lost he’s only really lost his job because the job is in a high-profile place. [Music] Yeah. I mean I mean, as I said before, I I I think I should be able to go abroad and post pictures on Snapchat of guns and expect to be employed. You know, that that’s my basic take. There are pictures on the internet with with firearms. I will, you know, This was actually this was actually there was a whole there was a big issue back in gosh in the 2000 the 2010s when the advice you would get advice given to you by central office in the conservative party and it was like if you go on holiday holiday to America you can go shooting you know but just do not post the pictures online. Yeah, I I really I really do hate that uh cultural practice of Brit Brits just hate guns for some reason. Yeah, I mean we’ve got we have a lot of uh firearm culture over here. It’s just not as prevalent as the US. I just do not understand uh like some I don’t know. I’m probably not the person to talk about this because I’m very much biased on the side of I enjoy my fire sports when I like my guns when I finally get round to actually doing them. I do like my fire sports the opposite of water sports. Yeah. Uh sure. I love fire football. Um anyway, Eping too charged in connection with Eping pro. So long story short on this. Um Sarah White, she was the woman who I’m sure everyone’s seen the video of her running up the civic center stairs to fly Union Jack. She reached a section 14 order which effectly says this is the area you can protest. She went out of that area and is being charged for it. Um, how do you feel about that? You have a license to stand on that particular law and order. I am I I hate to say it. I’m kind of on Tor’s side. There’s there’s a give and take with protest. The police have to organize to make sure the protest doesn’t get out of hand. And that means anyone who leaves the area they’ve dedicated to the protest cannot stay there. Um hopefully it’s just a slap on the wrist. Yeah. I mean look, let’s face it. I mean I I get quite passionate about this sort of thing which is that there people do things all the time thinking it’s only a small thing or no one’s going to care or it’s only me. But you have to understand that laws exist under a principle of universality. Right? If everyone was doing what you’re doing, it would be bad for society. Therefore, it’s illegal for you to do it. So, yeah, I get it. Oh, I’ve only walked up some stairs and and waved a flag. No, you’re in a place you’re not legally allowed to be as part of this. Would you say that our laws Would you say that our laws are definitely applied universally? That’s a different thing. No, no, he doesn’t. And we all agree that they should be applied universally. And yes, Extinction Rebellion and Just Upo got away with well not murder literally figuratively got away with murder. Um where they were constantly outside of where they should have been were blocking roads and were being arrested. We wanted the heads cracked effectively despite the fact they were completely peaceful. Um because being peaceful does not mean you’re above the law. Anyway, um another guy, Scott Davyy, uh was also arrested for breaching the section 14 order. Uh I think that was after the dispersal order was made. they had to leave the area and he just didn’t. So there you go. And then finally, a 22-year [ __ ] man from Eping was arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred and racially or religiously aggravated criminal damage. That was Callum Baker, the guy everyone was like, “How’s he inciting racial hatred?” Well, it turns out his arrest was in connection with an investigation into allegations a banner had been settled on Friday the 29th of August. And I can’t find any images of that, so I have no idea what that’s about. And I have no idea what the banner is either, but you know, you can’t just commit arson is another point. Obviously, you can have it’s not quite related to Eping, but um was are we also including this evening the uh the comedian writer or the comedy writer that got five police? We are. Okay. Okay. Ram Lan. All right. I’ll I’ll leave I’ll leave it to it. Um I actually forgot his name. Yeah, you should know his name. He wrote some excellent comedies. Why shouldn’t she allow to be there? So, I just want to address this because I I’ve helped organize protests before. The police tell you this is your area where you can protest. These areas are off limits. She went to an area that was off limit. If the police don’t do anything, they’re not really enforcing their rules, are they? And the police have to enforce their rules. That is why she’s not going to go to jail. She might get a fine. You might get a day of community service or something. I don’t really mind if you’re told by the police don’t do something. Don’t do it. I know we’re all scared of being in an authoritarian state and I know we have two-tier policing. That’s not going to last forever. Don’t worry about it. Yeah, I know you’re not. I mean, we’re not I mean, I guess we’re not the ones getting arrested for praying in our heads as well. So, yeah. Well, well, I mean, that’s a good question. Tory boy, what do you think of that? the woman who was arrested for praying in her head. I think the police I think I think the police did the right thing, but I don’t necessarily agree with the law. Um I also I also So remember there’s two different events that happened there. There was there was one which was a public space protection order in England and the second was actually the one in Scotland where it was you know an actual law that parliament had passed and so you know it’s a completely different discussion for both of them. Um, and obviously that was why one of them, the lady won an appeal because public space protection orders were not intended to be used that way. But also the one in Scotland, they passed an entire law just to do that. And so the police couldn’t not enforce it. So, and I I’m going to try and frame this in a way that’s not going to get the channel banned. Uh, good luck. I’m just trying to work out how to put it. Um uh how would you protest uh a bad law? Let’s put it that way. If an unjust law well in the example you’re giving right, you can protest outside law. Say again. What? You cut out you cut out. Oh, sorry. So you could protest against that law outside the Scottish Parliament. There was no law against that, but you couldn’t be in the area around the abortion clinic. The zone? No. Yeah. I don’t know what they call it. I don’t know what it’s called. Call the zone. Who cares? Yeah. The permitted area or the the unpermitted area. No, no, it makes sense. I mean the thing the the the case and point that I always come up to and I think that this image is kind of burned into my mind a little bit was that the co protesters no so no it wasn’t the co protesters they were they were mistreated as well um but it was specifically the people after Southport where they were protesting outside I realized that this isn’t quite the law actually the co protest would be a better example but the image I’ve got in my mind are the the ones post uh Southport. And they basically did nothing until the press got there and then they rounded them all up like cattle just so that the press could see that there were mass arrests and that was when I realized that like our protesting laws are completely bunk. And yeah, I think that was that was the point where I don’t think our protesting laws are that bad. I think it’s I think the Um I think they outside you know praying in your head outside on abortion clinic like the whole thing around abortion clinics I think is a bit mad obviously that’s the worst bit but you know protest I’ve been at help organized one as well you know I don’t think it’s unreasonable contact the police I want to protest okay you know you can do it right next to parliament oh cool yeah just stay in this area cool do some speeches go home um you know the the effing one largely it’s been similar you know there’s a bit of violence at the first from there wasn’t really any since until after the Eping overturn. Um, but I mean, did you see Canary Wolf as well? By the way, Canary Wolf had a load of masked men like going through the shopping center and then they started having a scuffle with the police and then uh Jack Hadfield and someone else who was filming it got like pepper sprayed cuz they were trying to film everything and obviously got collateral damage from from that and they were like, “Oh yeah, these people were just peaceful.” It’s like, “No, they weren’t. They were trying to beat police. Like, what are you talking about?” I just saw your video. Um, but it’s it’s, you know, there’s a reason to have these laws and it’s to stop things like that happening. Like I I just I’m with reform. I just would not allow face coverings at this point in time. You know, maybe give it a sunset of about four four years or something. I don’t like face coverings just use these days. I I just despite having I have family that have been in police, my especially over the last half decade at least, my trust of the police has gone into negative territory, like beyond negative territory. I just don’t trust the police. I’m sure that there are some people who do a good job, but for the most part, I just don’t trust them to do actually do a good job or actually do anything to the benefit of the the British people. I just do not trust it at the moment. So, uh that is definitely clouding my perspective. I will I can admit that. Well, I’m sure Tory Boy will give you very good reasons to not be that erotic about it. But anyway, yes, Graeme Linan arrested over post on transgender issues. So, the writer of the best TV show ever, Father Ted, has been arrested at Heathrow over three social media posts on transgender. You’re not helping the case. Why? Five armed police arrest a comedian over that. That’s that’s just the nature of them being at an airport. Graeme Linhan, who also created the best TV show ever, IT crowd and with Dylan Moran, Blackbooks, the other greatest TV show ever, said he was intercepted by five armed officers after flying in from Arizona and was told he was under arrest over messages. Writing on Substack, the 57year-old Irishman said he was taken into a cell and then questioned over posts published on X in April. He said the post related to him challenging the transidentified female in a female only space. Lynen said after questioning by police that his blood pressure was over 200 stroke territory and he was taken to hospital and kept under observation before being discharged and released on bail. His bail by the way condition I think the only condition was he couldn’t use Twitter which is just mad. Um yeah this is obviously crazy and literally this week um yeah Farage is going to the US to raise free speech issues with Trump. Like what a what a thing to happen this week. Um again Tori, why did the Tories do nothing to like stop Britain getting into this state? Tory boy just you know do you have an answer to that? Nobody cared. Yeah, they did. Nah. No, nobody nobody important can tell you about the Communications Act 2003. Nobody knows about it. Well, Goodwin could I Goodwin’s a Johnny come lately. Yeah, he is to be fair. I’ll give you that. Um I I kind of give you that. I mean, you know, pro pro, you know, we’ve been talking we’ve been talking about this for 10 years now. Yeah, I know. Oh, yeah. I know. And it’s only in the last two years that people outside of us understand that there’s there’s deeper issues. You can’t just say free speech. You have to talk about the actual things you would change, the actual laws you would change. Section 127 of the Communications Act was a very specific thing we talk about to be fair. Um, I know, right? But my my parents would uh my parents knew about the cha Chelsea Russell case, the girl in Liverpool, he posted rap lyrics. God, that was back in like 2015, something like that. That was a while ago. Yeah, they they were talking about that since like 2017. But obviously there’s other things that take priority because boomers just don’t think they’re going to jail for what they post online. And the ones that do actually do have like just hideous things said so people don’t have much sympathy for them. But it it is ridiculous. Like you have a block button, dude. Just block people you don’t like. Um that’s why I don’t block anyone because I like everyone. But um yeah, I think the what was the other funny part of this? Well, one Graeme Lin unfortunately went to hospital because he was that stressed out by this, but it’s just ridiculous. Like there were three really innocuous tweets as well. Um does it go through them? I don’t think they will. It does mention Farage is going over to the US to raise the Lucy Connelly case. Um, which a lot of the leftists say, “Oh, well, she plead guilty.” Not realizing that that was advice given to her. That was not given to the um Ricky Jones guy who said a much worse thing in public in front of a crowd that, you know, were riled up, let’s say. And they clapped it, which was even funnier. Um, I’m surprised that no one’s tried to pull any nonsense with um Anne Middleton if we’re going to talk about spicy tweets. I don’t think I don’t I don’t think he’s well known enough to be honest. I know he’s a celebrity and all that, but I don’t think people really care enough. Was commonly known. Uh well, that was the problem you’ve got there is that that was at the time of the riots. Um I think it was timing there that got got her caught. It got loads of people caught. There was a girl who um ended up going uh pleading guilty because she was just recording a Tik Tok live. just had a Tik Tok live up and people walking past her were saying racial slurs and she got arrested for it because she was putting the broadcast out. They’re not helping my case. My earlier case our speak our speech laws are mental, right? We want to change the speech laws, but that’s a very specific part and that’s I mean that’s why my advice is literally always like you know go and have a good time with the pink ladies if you’re going to protest but if you see mass people just leave just leave. Even being present there puts you at risk of being arrested. just go. It’s not worth it. Um, and that’s why because we have ridiculous laws, which I agree they’re ridiculous. I vote reform and they’ll change them with any luck. Um, but yes, uh, everyone complained about this. Tories, Labor, Reform, obviously. Uh, Greens probably didn’t. Not sure about them actually. Um, I think Jeremy Corbyn’s party was split on it, but they’re split on everything. So, there you go. Um, yeah. Amazingly, Labour hate this. And are they going to do anything to change it? Of course they’re not. Right. Uh we’ll finish off with this. Reform UK woos big business before party conference. Yes, they got Heathrow to sponsor them, which I think you said before, Tori, they uh sponsor everyone because they want that third runway. He Heathrow goes to most of the conferences because they’re like, “We need to get politics on side.” Which is weird because like it’s never worked. Yeah. Yeah, but it probably will work with reform, won’t it? Or it’s most likely, I should say. Um, large businesses are flocking to Reform UK’s party conference while Labour is raising prices for its annual gathering to build up a war chest for the spring locals. Reform is offering packages worth up to 250,000 that include boozy breakfast with Nigel Farage, the leader, bottles of champagne delivered to the exhibitors stand, and free drinks at the bar. I wish I had quarter of a million. Some businesses are worried about the effect of their brand reputation of attending what promises to be an unpredictable event and are unsure whether reform can maintain its momentum. Bloody hell, they’re like 15 points ahead of Labor at this point. Um, God, who what’s the party and third call again? Tories Dems. Oh, possibly. Oh, very good. One executive at a major public affairs firm said that they would prefer to uh only to dip their toe in the water. It is quite funny. Wayne Teller again, one of the board members who was voted in was talking about this saying when he was uh communications director at reform, he’d get uh a load of business leaders saying, “Really want a meeting with Reform? Like could you arrange that?” And he basically said, “No, that’s not how we work. You basically have to catch them uh when you can because they’re too interested basically in going around seeing other people.” Um so it’s kind of a free-for-all. Um, and they they really hate that. But then when this happens and you have to pay quarter a million, they’re like, I don’t know about that. Um, others want to be seen to take an early interest in reform, which has led every opinion poll for the last four months. How does that make you feel, Tori? Whatever. No, I I have transcended Kalin. I I don’t need that stress in my life. They control my life. They control 10 local authorities and that was without every vote going ahead and holds two metro may royalties. Oh man, look at that. That’s very good. Um they missed out that they won a bi-election, but probably because they don’t want to mention that we’ve lost two MPs. Um he throw I always forget about the guy in in East Yorkshire. Guy in East Yorkshire. Oh. Uh yeah, the other mayor. The mayor of Holland, East Yorkshire. I never hear about him. Uh they did um he had an interview with Dr. David Bull the other day on Reform’s channel. He’s doing all right. He’s uh yeah, he’s a bit more quiet, but he he’s apparently having a bit of a uh wrestle with the civil service there from what I understand. Can’t remember his name though. Luke Campbell. Yeah, the boxer. Yeah, the boxer. Yeah. Yeah. Um God, Aaron Banks nearly won the Southeast. That was so funny. If he won that, I I would have absolutely lost it. It I’m kind of glad he didn’t because I want him to go for um for the bi-election going on in the in Jacob Reese Mog’s old seat. I think that would be hilarious. Um so it is housing uh Heathrow is one of the biggest commercial spenders at reforms conference which starts Friday at Birming at the Birmingham NEC is hosting a lounge an area traditionally reserved for labor and conservative conferences where front branches will be quartered away from the public glare. Well all four of them. Um Heathro’s expansion plans are backed by Reeves the chancellor but are expected to take a decade. So development could be overseen by future governments. Ether says it executive team has a long track record of construction engagement across the political spectrum is looking forward to discussing its future with reformed delegates. Tik Tok, the social media platform which reform has built a following, is also attending the conference for the first time. Wow, I didn’t know that. At least 5,500 tickets have been sold for the two-day event which Farage will address on Friday and close on Saturday. Joe um Z Yousef was posting that he had more followers on Tik Tok than conservatives do. Get I don’t see that. Yes. Get wrecked. You’re getting ruined by our I’m still refusing to go on Tik Tok. It’s I It’s surprisingly normie. I mean, my Tik Tok’s absolutely full of gorillas at the moment because of uh the Sorry, what? The band. The band. The band. The band. Yeah. Yeah. That’s not actually a band. Yeah. Gorillas. Yeah. I know it’s just Damon Damon, whatever he’s called. I know it’s just one guy who made four people. Yes, everyone knows that. Tory, I grew up in the 2000s. No, no, cuz I never knew that until like about a year ago. Yeah, I know. It’s the guy I didn’t know until recently either. It’s the guy from Blur. Yeah, it’s the singer from Blur. That’s why, you know, I found that out like less than a year ago. That’s That’s why the voice is the exact same for the main singers of both bands. Yeah, I never noticed that, you know. Um, yeah, Clint, I mean, I never used to listen to Blur, so I only only knew Gorillas the But anyway, anyway, they’ve got a Fortnite crossover event, so it’s all over my TikTok. Um, but yeah, Clint Eastwood, the song, the um you know, the piano in that, you know, the that’s actually a sample straight from like a crappy Japanese uh auto player thing, like instrument, electric instrument. They just nicked it off that. And the drums in that aren’t actually drums. Like the the symbol thing is just a load of nuts and bolts in a bag that he shakes. Like he was really he was really experimental with it and it’s why it’s so good. Um but I’ve been listening to their albums recently and I realized oh their singles are like their only good songs. The rest of it’s all just too experimental. Um but yeah, it’s Dares. Probably the best song ever made though. Anyway, um even companies uncomfortable with contributing to reforms coffers believe the party is getting harder to ignore. Reformers in power in big local authorities and working to influence them is a necessity, not a choice. Far said uh said reform is now in its advanced teenage years and the conference is seen as a chance to influence the party’s direction and rub shoulders with previously unknown politicians who have become relatively powerful. Nice. Labor is raising its prices up by 20% compared to with last year’s. As in the words of one organizer of the conference in Liverpool at the end of the month, it seeks to cash in on the government dividend. The party was 3.7 million in the red last year, raising 90.7 million but spending 94.5 million. Price rises will start to pay off that debt and build a war chest before elections described as a cabinet source as the PM’s midterms. Right, Tory, but I I need a favor from you. I need you to join reform and make sure that we kill Star in the elections. is obviously not in the election prop in Minecraft. No, in real life. No, in the in the elections. No, in real life. Obviously, I meant figuratively in the elections. Like politically in the Yeah. Offcom. Thank you, Sarah. Sarah, you’ve got no choice to you join reform. You help out with this. We have to make sure Labor I can’t join reform. Since your last comment, I’ve just got feel good just looping in my head now. Done. Do you know Do you know what will make you Do you know what else will make you feel good? Join reform. [Music] I I have been thinking a lot about, you know, I have to vote in the bloody Scottish parliamentary elections. It’s going to be really awkward. Why? You have to vote reform. Well, to be fair, you’re on a limb already. Enough voting Tory in Scotland, though. The problem is that you’ve already been through the fire and the flames. Well, remember remember that the that’s Dragon Force. I I know. I I know. I was using the finger that I’ve realized I realized at the last moment. Uh but yeah, the because of the regional votes in Scotland, you don’t need that many votes to actually win seats. And it’s like, well, the problem is that you have this pro this issue where we’re like the Conservative Party’s going to lose like half their seats, right? But you need to vote for them to make sure the ones that we have left stay like we could get wiped out in Scotland. I actually understand what you’re saying. Get wrecked. No, no. It But no, no, no. What he’s also saying is it’s not just a matter of conservatives being wiped out. It’s reform also lose and then you’re stuck with Labor. or or S&P, right? It’ll probably be S&P. Yeah. It’s also the regional votes are really difficult to tactically vote in because it depends on what the results everywhere else are. So, it’s really difficult to work out like what the actual ideal thing to do is. Um, but then again, I’ll probably just vote Conservative because I’m used to naughty. Don’t want I mean, personally, I would still I would still take conservative over I mean, again, I’ve got the I’ve got the Stockholm syndrome as well, Tori. I don’t I Yeah. If if push came to shove, if there was no chance of a reform in my area, then I would also defer conservative despite them shafting me at every opportunity. Yeah. I mean, let’s let’s face it, let’s face it. Where I live, the SMP are going to win, right? Not if you vote reform. You constitu the constituency seats. Yeah. It’s all of you. No. No. You vote reform, they won’t get him. Uh, imagine 0.0%. Yeah. Imagine imagine now he vote Imagine now Tory votes Tory obviously uh and reform lose by a by a one single vote. Imagine that Tori. Imagine that it was you. It was your vote that could have made the difference and got reform in. But no, you got the S&P instead. That would be on you. And I would never let you forget that. Yeah, that would feel pretty bad. I I I feel your terror because my area is it skews very heavily Lib Dem and it’s like the the last thing that my area needs is more Libdem. There you go. Yeah. Well, well anyway, I think uh I think that’s going to cover all the news we had for the last two weeks. Um, obviously we didn’t do a Tosh talks last week because I was uh well I wasn’t at work and I I I decided to go on a little streaming hiatus, but I think there’s going to be another uh much bigger hiatus where I just there won’t be anything on my channel at all from like a Saturday to the Saturday after. Uh but that’s at the end of the month. Uh and I’ll make that very clear because we all need holidays and we all need breaks. Um so yeah, what’s that? What’s Well, true. Um, I I actually will probably ban myself from Twitter as well for that period as well. I might be on the Discord, maybe, but have to see. Um, right. Anyway, uh, I’d like to very much thank uh, the chat for being very energetic tonight. Uh, had a good chat rate. Uh, only 10 likes though, still, so what the hell. Uh, oh yeah, we also had the super chat from Mr. Brus, so thank you very much for that. Um, in terms of shilling, uh, Hollow Night, I’m carrying on with that on Thursday. And then Saturday, we’ve got Laughing at the Guardian, Sarah will be there along with, uh, Alan, who was in the chat before, and, um, someone from the Discord who, well, asked to come on called Remy. So, it’s a bit of a risk, but we’ll see how it goes. Um, anyway, anyway, uh, thank you very much, Tory Butle, for coming on and taking the beating as usual. I’m always willing to be your paddle boy. Has Oh god. Has uh has has your morale improved? I don’t know. I mean, I try and avoid having any morale at any point anyway. So, jeez.
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