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  1. No-Ingenuity-4898 on

    Orbea is nice. If it has Carbon wheels its worth 1700. If not probably $1200

  2. Lol I was just looking at the Orbea last night for a friend. He tried out my Yamaha Crosscore RC and he was hooked on mid drive.

    As for mid drive and hills that is what it is made for. I ride up 15-22% grade hills on my commute and barely break a sweat. Get a mid drive.

    I have also tried hub drives and they suck when I tried to start pedaling in the middle of a hill. Mid drive feels the most smooth and natural.

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