Doing a month long bikepacking trip through Europe in a couple of weeks, my plan is to do a mix of camping/wildcamping in order to explore around. Any reccomendations for the route (more info in desc)

So I plan on cycling 150ish per day, cause that number means I can have around 10 days of screwing around exploring places trying out camping.

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I have a month to do it, so technically if I cycled 60 per day I’d be good, but I’ll prolly wanna stay out of the saddle some days so I prefer to cycle more.

Do you guys have any advice for the route? I have a bit through the netherlands until Eurovelo15, both of which I plan on speedrunning for the first couple of days until Strasbourg cause its flat, there I chill out for a day and then after Schwarzwald I rlly have no idea what to do/see until Munich and later Salzburg, where I tackle the Austrian alps which will be two big climbs.

Heat management is probably going to be my biggest worry, but I am mostly sticking next to rivers so water is always near.

My biggest issue is lack of camping experience. I went out the other day and I couldn’t sleep for shit (prolly cause of lack of pillow, I thought scrounging up my stuff is comfy but it wasn’t). Also cooking and fueling is probably going to be difficult for a month with a tiny camping kitchen.

Anywho, what do u guys think of the [komoot route](https://www.komoot.com/tour/2199601279?ref=aso&share_token=aFUyqUgs5fFPTvGK01pHzefEy04qZGmEWtc6YYqR591httnlEO)

You might wanna check out the bodensee-Koenigsee bike path it fits your route after schwarzwald

Regarding drinkable water, in Germany every town and almost every village has a cemetery, there you can find public faucets for watering the plants etc, it is normal tap water so perfectly save to drink (unless specified otherwise: there will be a sign saying Kein Trinkwasser).

I don’t know if you’re aware, but wild camping is a misdemeanor in Germany and punishable by fine between 10€ and 5000€ depending on the federal state you’re in and “severity”. Chances that people will call the cops on you is pretty high. I would suggest picking the route alongside official camping sites.

So I cycled the Rhein from Basel to Köln a few weeks ago and in my opinion it was boring and nothing special. Nice to make some distance, but nothing more. Also the part from Mainz to Koblenz wasn’t really a pleasure. There is not much space in the valley, so you cycle next to the road and the railway.

Maybe skip some parts of the Rheinroute for a more scenic one?

I would recommend going through the ardennes instead of the ruhr area ( i think thats what its called). Although I have never cycled the part east of the ardennes in germany, but having ridden through by car it seemed quite industrial and boring. The ravel paths through the ardennes are amazing to ride on, and the northern part of france is also quite sweet.

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“Touring”.

Screwing around, exploring stuff: Check out Rulantica, the gigantic indoor / outdoor water park attached to Europa Park in Rust near the Schwarzwald area. Get yourself a nice massage, either using water-bubbles (free aside from the general entry fee) or book a spot with a massage therapist on top.

There is a camping site nearby where you can pitch your tent.

Second the comment that wild camping is frowned upon in Germany. Better plan on using a mix of staying at official camping sites and low-cost non-camping options such as hostels while in Germany. If you mostly stick to known touristy bike routes (like Donau-Radweg or Inn-Radweg) you will find plenty of options.

If you do decide to wild camp, carefully choose your spots to avoid nature reserves. In plain sight is often better than hidden in the woods.

In Germany you may want to use onenitetent, it is a platform for sleeping in gardens of people, no costs and easy to use.