In this powerful and raw interview, Phil Hoban shares his incredible life journey—from a tough upbringing in Leeds to becoming an MMA fighter with a 10-1 record. He dives deep into founding Predator Exposure, the global group catching online pedophiles, and reveals shocking truths about law enforcement’s response. Phil also addresses the controversial 8-month prison sentence for alleged racially aggravated behaviour, proclaiming his innocence and exposing what the judge didn’t want public. With admissions about his mixed-race identity, struggles with public perception, and plans for a revealing documentary, this is a story of resilience, justice, and redemption.
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welcome back to the YouTube channel and today
um one of my personal request was to get you on so today we’ve got Phil Hoban um so thank you for
joining us been a bit of a welcome sir mad rush on it to get you on here um so yeah so I always start
it off with very simple I always start off with um is in any walk of life it would be a disrespectful
question which you’ll understand what I mean but who are you I’m Phil and uh I’ve I’ve run a group
people will probably know me through predator exposure they run a group and go catching online
uh pedophiles who try attacking our children and stuff like that okay so let’s start from young
let’s go back in time if you can still remember so upbringing family home uh mom dad brother
sisters upbringing i I like I can say I had a I had a really good childhood i swear our little
[ __ ] you know what I mean you were like our tog what they called people might know what a to know
what a tore egg is uh I but my family they brought me up best they could we w we were poor we we
didn’t have a lot to we had to go pinching potato up Middleton oh Miggy up Miggy yeah it would have
been a hard life back then listen I’m from arrows and we used to avoid Miggy yeah well yeah being of
color shall I say with being of color but I never knew that i never knew not about different races
and stuff like that when I grew up there but it’s like to to to feed we we used to have to go out
killing rabbits and that’s how we fed uh we’d get sent out on farmer’s field and pulling potatoes
up because it were chips and it would take us and that’s how that’s how and seriously I know and I
forgot what his name was uh Rishi Sunak said he had a hard life because he couldn’t he didn’t
have satellite TV or something and it’s like you what and when I heard that you didn’t have
[ __ ] satellite TV no no no i used to have to go as a child 7 years old go pull potatoes out of
a field on a nighttime when farmer didn’t get you or shoot you or whatever and we that’s how we used
to have to get our food and carrots and stuff and we had to pinch his food mom and dad I love mom
and dad Pete Orin Sen [ __ ] legend big up tears yeah yeah did the best did best my real dad’s uh
he’s Stephen called Steven Chowdry and that’s when I found out where my dad I originate from Nevis
i don’t know if you’ve heard of Nevis yeah my mom’s from St Kitts so yeah so that’s where I
originate from yeah so So just for the record cuz we’re going to touch on this when we get later
on so your real dad is black my real dad’s black right okay and my brothers are black yeah well so
I remember we were talking I played rugby with one of your younger brothers um and then he started
coming to do some martial arts with you and stuff like that i think it’s the youngest brother you’ve
got yeah uh Cal that’s the one yeah i played played rugby with him yeah yeah yeah so your
upbringing is mom and dad um brothers and sisters brothers and sisters I’ve got [ __ ] No I’m about
that was at the time living at home so we’re talking ‘ 80s aren’t we I’ve got six living at
me but all together I’ve got like 10 brothers and uh four sisters okay so with with your home life
when you was at home with your mom which would have been your stepdad back then wouldn’t it yeah
yeah but he brought me yeah yeah so but yeah so but would he would all So all your Did they have
other kids was you all mixed race or was or was No no they were the white side okay yes you were the
only one of the ironic one every time when I used to go to school cuz I had Afro I’ve got curly hair
and they’re like and I I used to try comb my hair to make it straight because I were the only one
who who didn’t have straight hair so I were the odd one out and they say and everyone used to say
oh yeah you’re black you i said no not my mom and dad’s white i didn’t find out until I were like
about 23 that I were mixed race yeah so and it were like “No no.” And I used I’m thinking “Why is
my [ __ ] hair curly?” And I used to try comb it out and just try be like the rest of the kids when
we were when I were growing up we avoided Miggy like you didn’t go as as a person of color so I’m
just trying to go like I can understand your point of view where you’re going try to keep me hair
straight but you would have been the odd one out and racism was it was it was it peak back then it
was [ __ ] then it was [ __ ] then racism you know it’s but we did have only black family we had
up there i don’t know if you’ve heard of a lot yes I have a lot is but they that were only black
family up there they were allowed up there they were allowed up there but they were like but
they everybody like took them in as a family so even though they say Mig is a a racist place
a lot were there and they first black family who were up there and they were black blacker than
Yeah yeah then what well like I said I get that because originally I were born in Gipton so when
we’re going back and now you’re saying you’re talking about me again no no I’m just saying like
No but then I’m saying about about 8 8 n years old I then moved to a so quite multicultural I went
through so so so I’m guessing then is this kind of why you go so you got you got so you leave
do you do GCSEs at school no no I’m too busy on motorbikes and stuff like that it was them times
listen I’m a dead I I I got I got [ __ ] all kid do you know so then I went into MMA which I did
quite good at MMA so what was your record mix mixed martial arts what was your mixed martial
arts i think it were uh 10 and one i lost one fight you do are you still training professional i
just want to do one more fight this year just for me little boy and to say listen to he said yeah
just for him to see cuz he’s he’s eight now and even though I’m 50 now we’ll have 15 Halloween
night uh October and he said dad will you do one more i can’t be asked doing it but just for him
for me boy I said I’ll do one more so we’re still waiting it’s called Pete the Doorman i don’t know
if you’ve seen him on YouTube or a big guy he’s like 19 and a half I’m only 12 and a half so but
I said “Listen I said I’ll fight you.” I’m still waiting for his reply will he agreed to fight
me but now I’m getting no reply back from him or you know but it’s like you can do your second
call out here if you want and say “Listen reply back to me.” Listen well listen peep the door man
i’ I’ve put it out there to you if you want to do it I’ve put it on your toes uh and you’ve not
replied back even though you said you’d fight me let’s get And this is in the Octagon it’s not a
street fight no no no this is This is It’s just one of them one off fights so your son can
actually see because I’ve been to a couple of your shows um which were back in day like
2004 you been to one of your fights no I never came to one of your fights but I came to one
of your shows um so I was May call yes Miggy was it is it upstairs we we did Miggy Social
Club and we did Meanwood Meanwood were a good one Meanwood because you had you had you had your
other brother on there which I think is Justin yeah you had Justin yeah but but it was [ __ ]
show what he did cuz he beat the guy then he went and kicked him and it were like and we don’t
listen when a man’s down you beat him you’ve beat him yeah yeah you don’t go kick them [ __ ] man
after you know what I mean but no we get Yeah i know but do you know what it is though what I will
say is is a lot of a lot a lot of adrenaline is pumping through your base yeah that was his first
fight so that first fight yeah you’re in there so I I understand what it did uh but it would like
we we just don’t tolerate it whatsoever no I get it um so where So you start you get into MMA what
age are you when you get into MMA then about 20 25 and do you know how it started because I watching
UFC you’ve heard the UFC yeah yeah of course so I’m watching UFC and uh I a bit piss head then and
me expert she said I said I could do that she said could you won’t be able to do that no way would
you be able to do that and that’s what pushed me into then I started going to have you heard of
Deaton in Huddersfield I started going to Deon uh train with Andy Williams started training
building jiu-jitsu which I got quite good at and he said listen do you want to do it i said “Listen
put me in there.” And I went into cage and it just so happened I got quite good at it and I start I
beat all me opponents and it’s like and it found I found it easy to like not that I like it like like
to work people but I just like to test and see if my skills somewhere where you could channel your
your energy like your anger yeah because as as 18y old and [ __ ] our fug [ __ ] knob and you know
what if I could turn back my life now and change it back and look at it our [ __ ] gone horrible
horrible bastard I’m so disgraced in myself how how I turn my life out I’m disgusted in myself
and I wish I could just turn everything back and start again and just have a fresh a clean sheet
but I can’t do you know see this one that’s one of the questions I often ask people as well is
if you could turn back like you know like living with regret and again I mean a lot of people know
my story there’s no qualms with me like yourself very open and I think for me I I tried to live my
life without regret and also one of the things for me is would I change things in my life because for
me the paths have always led me to my children so if I did change certain like you just said if I
could change I know exactly what you’re saying do you know what I mean if you done that you won’t
be we won’t be here now your MS and kids would have just dropped you i know exactly what you’re
saying and when I try to explain that to people they don’t they’re saying “Well I don’t understand
what you’re saying but I’m saying if we would have kicked a door in that we we probably wouldn’t have
give her one we won’t have that kid i won’t have this kid.” Do you know where I’m coming from they
don’t understand when I try telling them that but I understand exactly where you’re coming from i
wish I could have my family still me but I wish I would have been able you would have wished that
you have to go through all the heartache to then have the joy of having your children yeah yeah cuz
that’s what it is isn’t it yeah yeah of course it is so I get it but like for me I just look at I
always look at circumstances and I look at paths and paths often lead us to where where we want to
be and not necessarily where we where we deserve to be but they do lead us to where we where
we should be or where we you know what I mean um so we do MMA and I’m guessing cuz obviously
people start hearing about I start hearing you growing up and you go “Oh Phil Miggy Miggy
lad.” And you and if I’m honest with you all the years until I came to a show so I’m talking 200
going back somewhere 2014 2015 it’s around that time and then I started playing with you with
your your brother that’s the first time that I realized that you actually wasn’t full white
no but I didn’t realize I weren’t full white until I were like [ __ ] 27 and you know when
I first when I first got told and said “Listen uh I remember talking to my mom and and my mom cuz
she never she she’s passed away now me my mom.” Okay and I once went in and thank you uh and we’ve
gone and I said “Mom,” I said “I’ve been speaking to someone today.” Cuz my mom kept it secret back
when I were younger if they’ have found out that I were mixed race my granddad had a med bought me
yeah yeah yeah it I’d have got aborted because it weren’t allowed it weren’t allowed yeah so I said
to mom I remember she was sat there brushing her [ __ ] hair and she said “Uh I said “Mom get
me today.” She said “Who who?” I said “Steven Chowdry.” And she stopped brushing her hair man he
[ __ ] knew that i knew that I just found out who my [ __ ] dad is yeah so and so I said “Don’t know
who he is.” I went “You what?” She said “I don’t know.” I said “He’s coming around I’m bringing him
around.” He said “He knows you I’m bringing around for a cup of tea you’re not bringing no one to
my house and stuff like that.” So it were like [ __ ] [ __ ] but anyhow then so I got in touch
with him oh no Justin he for me he said “Are you taking the piss you you telling me your my dad’s
your [ __ ] dad so I said he said I want to come to your house i said “Come to my house.” He said
“What’s your address?” I give him my address he knocked on my door boom boom boom come to my
door he looked at me he went “No way man.” He went “Fuck off.” He said “Let me throw my door and
tell him he’s got another [ __ ] son.” Cuz there’s three of them together as well as a block into
the free Yeah yeah and then he realized that I his brother and then so he he phoned Steve who’s
my dad he said listen he he said don’t bring no one to my house or no he said I’ll go meet him
so he he he come and done a DNA test so went to McDonald’s and my wife Nikita she said what
happens if he cheats it i said well ain’t worth knowing then i said it don’t [ __ ] matter does
it but anyhow so then he threw me back up he said listen I’ll meet you we’ll go to Arg in town went
there i said what’s test what’s test come back as he said “I think you need to go back and see your
mom.” And I I [ __ ] I filled up with tears I’m thinking “No I’ve met a man you’re not even me
[ __ ] dad I’m saying you’re me dad.” And he said “And you need to go tell her.” This is burning
my first time I’ve ever seen the man that I’m your father and I were like “Fucking hell mate.”
So how’s that relationship with your mom go how does that how My mom’s passed away now your mom
didn’t want me to have a relationship with him for some reason i don’t know why so nothing of that
never came out she she knew that no she before she passed away she knew that I’d met him because
I went to Wales with him they took us camping but I when my mom were watching us go cuz I live next
door to mom and when she watching us go I could see the sadness in her face like thinking he’s
going with him but I found all I ever wanted to do is find out who my [ __ ] dad were see mine
was mine’s like the the polar opposite to you like with you if we’re looking at the era that
we’re growing up in it was quite common to have white mothers black dads it was the common see
mine was rare so my mom was black and my dad was white dad were [ __ ] Well that’s rare so back
then I mean a lot it happens a lot more now but back then it was very rare so when you’re talking
about racism although yeah I saw racism myself being from the areas that I were from I actually
saw more racism towards my mom from her own color because he’s white gone with a white man do
you know what I mean so when you’re looking at polar opposites and then obviously you you’ve
gone all your life so you’re 27 to then finally meet your dad at 27 year old and again I know
your brothers so like I say for me it’s then finding out oh wait so cuz all the years of I’m
seeing you hearing about you then go cuz we got similar circles aren’t we so same [ __ ] yeah so
then when I’m going all this time I just thought you were a white guy with a proper tan proper
tan man look at me lips man like I say when we got done for that and I’m [ __ ] rubbing me lip
and they saying “Right you Well I tell you what we’re going to come to that anyway so we’ll go
to that so um let’s So we go to fighting and then obviously you’ve got to work cuz obviously we all
know that yeah yeah yeah i work the bills no does it don’t pay bills i did that cuz I enjoyed it and
it would like just I was an angry an angry person but someone said “Why don’t you channel that and
and get into a cage and have a fight?” And I used to do my fight and have black eyes or whatever uh
but it men feel good not to respect as well and it teaches you like not just respect it’s like
a discipline and before I used to go out when I were young and say my 20s or whatever someone say
here who you’re looking at I’d just start fighting with them but now I can actually go do you know
go man because you know what you can do i know I I know what I can do i don’t need to prove no
to you I’m like “Listen I don’t I don’t need to fight you.” So now more I’ll say “Go.” I’ll even
unless I get it then I’m like “Listen back off.” They can even say “You ugly bastard whatever you
[ __ ] want.” And I can say “Yeah yeah whatever.” Cuz I know that I don’t want to get into that
situation because of what I will [ __ ] do if I get into that i think what I can do so most people
that are watching this they’re going to know you mainly because of predator exposure predator
exposure yeah so um how did that how I mean of all the So again you’ve gone from your cage
fighting yeah you’ve met your real dad you you’re working full-time where does where does Predator
Exposure actually come where does that man cuz you founded it yeah yeah where does that manifest from
pred exposure there were no teams about so now if you look there’s a lot of teams about now there
were no teams about when we started apart from someone called since yeah okay and since if you’re
watching this you’re a [ __ ] you’re a bell mate you’re a straight bell he catches him lets him go
before police get there now what’s going to happen once he lets them go they’re going to destroy
all the evidence exactly what you’ve just done they destroyed all evidence we were the fifth team
to come up and how it started uh she were called uh [ __ ] hell what’s her name man they don’t
matter about names i forgot her name be a friend of yours friend of mine yeah so she’s phoned me up
said listen someone’s messaging my daughter Phil I’m well known around my area can you find out
who it is so Broadway in Leeds well in so we’re in there so I said listen I’ll go find out who it
is I’ve gone around a few pubs and said oh yeah uh is it so and so and we just put it on Facebook by
just to show people in peace and this is a a Gora white man is he’s [ __ ] white man and and showing
him like watch your kids around him if you see beast and is a wrong is it is he trying to rape
your [ __ ] kids so any we put that on next day I had hundreds of messages Nicola Nicholas she’s
called and next day I had uh hundreds of messages saying can you help me can you help me find this
person or I was doing this or I was talking to my kid and that’s how it started from there and
from now we’ve gone to biggest following in the [ __ ] world it’s gone global yeah it is global
global query quiet now but again we’re going to touch i mean so I’m going to laugh at certain
parts because funny enough I’ve had plenty of discussions about about printer exposure exposure
and and there’s very there’s very controversial comments that get made about it of course it is
and and and people all I’ll say for the people who disagree with it all I’ll say and I’ll just
say it now check the [ __ ] hard drives because end of the day as you know I’m not doing no
wrong I’m just catching them and people will say well they shouldn’t be doing this to them
no police are catch them but if I catch them at least going they’re not going to touch your kids
they’re going to be away from kids and people who say who disagree with what we’re doing I say
check the [ __ ] hard drives man I think what it is is I think some people have watched it
and go well actually people will go cuz I’ve read I’ve read some point where they go should
be talking to him like that and my thought proc I shouldn’t I’m not I shouldn’t laugh at this bit
but there’s a couple of things where you do it and you go you make them blow into a nonsilizer yeah
right so I’ll just go on to that right my job is when I get lying because he’s not breathalyzer
nonsilizer because they’re [ __ ] idiots it’s a nonsilizer and and my job is is because if
this were a real child that they were talking to you’ve humiliated that child my job is now
to humiliate you yeah and that’s all it’s to do so it’s and what and what people don’t realize
when I’m interviewing them when I’m talking to them I’m getting admissions out of so they don’t
realize that when I say if you promise not to do it again and they say I promise not to do it
again now you’ve just admitted what you [ __ ] So you can’t lie I’m conviction oh you know what
so now if you listen to what I’m saying it’s only just dawned on me what you Yeah I’m asking you
but I’m getting I’m getting admissions out of you and you don’t even know that I’m doing it
wow yeah you just clicked on me so now do you know what I’m saying wow and you don’t put in
court now I’m going to get a conviction on you because of what you’ve just [ __ ] said yeah wow
i didn’t listen it genuinely that has just dawned on me now yeah so So now you know so now when you
speak to the man now you know what I’m doing and when we go to court that because you’ve turned to
the camera and said I promise not to do it again so you’ve done it you’ve done it yeah yeah give me
high five on that wow i didn’t even realize that one and now I get it although I don’t get the
nonsilizer the nonsilizer that should take the piss out of them that’s just to [ __ ] humiliate
them and and the survivors we call them survivors we don’t call them victims we call them survivors
because they’ve survived it and they’re watching there now and they’re seeing that you’re not this
big monster now we seeing you came in and you’re a little [ __ ] so how does the Cuz obviously you
was you were taken to court by two people one didn’t two people oh two people yeah two people
took her to court got not guilty though yeah yeah I’ve seen that i’ve seen you got not guilty
but how so obviously you have cuz obviously the the law’s quite Can I just say though two people
didn’t take us to court west Yorkshire Police took us to court not to do with no two people we were
over two people no one put statements in against us it was West Yorkshire Police who took us to
court so they No even though you’ve been doing their work no one took us to court it was West
Yorkshire Police who brought predator exposure to court and I’ll just say as well we all got not
guilty is if the followers will watch on this and I’ll bang it on mine and we all got not guilty and
the police were gutted they they took us to court no one would even put a statement against that
though does it no well do you know Kia Star I’ll just say one thing go [ __ ] yourself you prick
you’re a knob you sent me to jail for something that that that was wrong he sent me to jail for
something and you sent you you give me eight months in jail for rubbing my [ __ ] bottom lip
we’re going to we’re coming to that Phil we’ll come to it i promise you we’ll come to it wind me
up when you let pedophiles off and you [ __ ] give him a suspended sentence for [ __ ] two weeks
so let’s let’s go back i get you i know i know what you’re saying you know where I’m on about
100% but what I will say is there’s got to be a thin line because this bit where this citizen’s
arrest is quite a delicate situation yeah you have to be careful what you’re doing because if they
obviously for your citizen’s arrest it has to be in a calm manner but then you have the right
to protect yourself but then how does that work cuz there there’s thin line between if I believe
that you’re about to commit an offense or you have committed offense I have the right to section
24 which is a citizens arrest so if I believe you’ve committed an indictable offense I can sit
as an arrest you if I see you run off with some you can only hold them i can hold them or I can
use reasonable force now reasonable force that’s where the fine line comes yeah but if they start
chucking fists and stuff then we can get them we can detain them we can hold them on the floor and
note can be done to us which would that would fit straight in your street would it with the MMA yeah
yeah yeah this is why I don’t I don’t want to mess about with him because I can I can floor but I
ain’t done that and we tried to keep it as calm as possible and it’s like I I don’t as as much as I’d
like to just [ __ ] slap him obviously man they’re attacking his kids of course I’d like to slap them
up you know what I mean but as but I don’t and if you ever watch any of my videos I don’t slap them
up i just give them verbal abuse and it’s like and like you said you try to get things out of them so
they’re actually admitting to I do get things out of them i get but in a good way they don’t even
know that they’re talking to me and they’re giving me information but all the [ __ ] it might sound
like shy that I’m talking to them but I’m getting information and they’re just giving it and when it
goes to court you’ve just convicted yourself cuz you’ve told us everything is there ever a risk of
entrapment though no because as uh as the public we can’t be done for entrapment now if I if me
and you were police officers they can be done for entrapment because you’re a police officer
I’m a member of the public we cannot be done for entrapment so that does not abide by us whatsoever
and not only that uh we we put a a a profile out there so we like I’ll come and we’ll start talking
to you they start talking to us they’re entrapping themselves we so we never go someone can’t take
you just put a profile up there and wait for somebody to message him yeah yeah yeah so they
can’t someone can’t just go to me here John over there he’s talking to so and so and we’ll we’ll
start messaging him and try to get him so can I ask you a question because obviously we’ve you’ll
know well obviously you’ll know we we keep hearing about the grooming gangs and X Y and Z and what
we see on TV in your opinion so I’m going to say I’m going to say your professional opinion who are
who is who are the most people that you’ve caught like if we’re going to go color or let’s leave
religion out of it yeah we’ll just go color what would you say is predominantly the people that
you’ve personally like predator exposure that have caught white people white white cuz obviously
in the news we always hear about Asian group i mean there’s grooming gangs all nations 100% I’m
just going on what I’ve caught so I’m not going to lie and say “Oh I could say oh black Pakistan
is what?” No no no I’m not going to lie I’m saying the the most people I’ve caught is is is white
people is white people English white people wow yeah so and I I’ll say that for a fact that’s the
most I’ve you know but I’ll say in the last few years that we’re catching the last on the back end
is people that have uh in hotels and that we’re catching okay yeah but the most I’m I’m going on
statistics uh is like expose your statistics yeah yeah is the most if you if you went on our on our
scale the most is white British people that we’ve got so again so again you’ve got one arrow where
you’re going pred exposure doing something good for society for the children for our futures and
then the and then we go on to the most most recent Phil Hoban case which was the 8-mon sentence for
racial aggravated aggravated racial [ __ ] I don’t even know what it like behavior doing gestures
which were racism which was although we know from the area that you’re from you’re Miggy but then
you you’re around I’m in B now I live in B I live in middle of bon yeah you’re in that estate
actually where club is yeah I live in middle It’s predominantly Asian Asian Pakistani British
men yeah um and again you’re a you’re a person of color yourself yeah yeah mixed race all your
brothers are mixed race yeah all my brothers are mixed race my kids are mixed race and so okay so
again I think there’s certain things there certain elements that people are not going to understand
to the reason why you’re actually there on that it’s not on March is it what it won’t match so
so what had happened i got a phone call saying “Listen are you coming to town let’s go have a
few drinks had a few drinks when we got there so you’ve got I don’t even to this day I don’t
know if the Palatine protesters are protesting but whatever and I thought [ __ ] hell quite a lot
of people here they said “No they’re not on our side.” And it’s like what so I thought everyone’s
together but I didn’t know that there’s this side and then there’s that side so we’ve gone down to
pub just outside Crown Court gone down there had a few bevies gone back up and it’s like we’ve gone
up and saying then they would and I’ll tell you now they were saying you English bastard we’re
going to beheaded you and rape your moms so I’ve gone and there’s a I think I’ve gone like you
cried i was doing it like you’ve got big lips in Pakistanis have big lips my dad’s got [ __ ]
massive lips and I’ve got big lips yes so I’ve got sock crane someone took a photo and and when this
documentary comes out now you’re going to see the full so I think what we’ll do let’s talk about
this first and then we’re going to go on to the documentary that’s going to come out so so anyhow
so I I rubbed me lip and it were like and it were there and there’s even a piece where I said and I
go on a microphone i said listen let’s all be one let’s The prosecution at court said to be fair
your honor Mr. Hoban did tried to calm the situation down and tried to be all see I didn’t
read that i didn’t see yeah you had seen this no no one seen this but this is going to come out and
you’re going to see this and the prosecution said to be fair your honor Mr. Hoban did say let’s calm
down let’s all be one and he tried to keep the peace the judge said I do not want this put in the
public domain this means he don’t want the public to see this what I was saying your license is over
now in it so my license is over now yeah yeah it’s done i got an extended license but I’m not that
public places or something i want it you can’t be in a crowded well we’ll go to this but the judge
said I don’t want that to be put in public domain even though I was saying “Let’s sit down let’s
all talk let’s all be one another.” The judge who sentenced me when credit of exposure went to court
i only got the same judge and soon as I walked in it were like “Nah [ __ ] way man [ __ ] it here
same judge when we got not guilty I’ve got the same judge he went “This is a terrible offense
this is really disgusting.” And with you being mixed race you should know better I’ve got a
more prison all about rehabilitation yeah so sending me to jail i had a job i had a good job i
had everything i had a mortgage my wife me [ __ ] kids and lot sending me to jail you’re not going
to gain up from sending me to jail months as well no no no you’re going to gain [ __ ] all it sent
me to jail to be a a [ __ ] do you know it’s like me wife could have lost her job she had to go sick
for four months she’s a power of medic she had to go sick for 4 months to look after me kids but
he could have made me lose me house me kids lose the house they do that what I did was totally I
shouldn’t have been there yeah you shouldn’t have been there but you shouldn’t have do you think
do you think it was more of a because of who you are in the public eye you have got I mean believe
it or not a lot of people I mean even so more now you are quite a quite a figure public figure for
doing the right things by the way yeah doing the right things doing the right things you’re quite
a public figure within leads aren’t you with the cuz I mean what’s your followers like i mean your
followers are mad aren’t they [ __ ] [ __ ] all over so I think do you think it might have been
a fact of look they made an example saying go [ __ ] yourself made an example of XY Z do you
know any other time you know when when all the rights were going off don’t forget we didn’t write
we didn’t throw any bottles we ain’t done [ __ ] all i said listen you’re you’re black whatever i
had said you’re Pakistani or whatever no no words have come out of my mouth like that that no and
it were like it any other time they’d have gone “Oh we’ll give you a fine.” No that were like I
gone in court and said “Listen no this is terri made it out like a [ __ ] was it grade one grade
A crime?” I don’t know [ __ ] you put a pedophile in court and you’ll go we’ll give you two months
suspending sentence you just come to meet a [ __ ] child and you give him two months suspending i do
my [ __ ] lip and you give me 8 months you know what got me though cuz obviously people are going
to look up about this case cuz that’s what people do but what what got me was and this is why when
I’m listening to your story now it makes me and then go well actually yeah one he wasn’t planning
to be there was because when I look at everybody else in the photograph that they use they’re all
masked up and you’ve got no mask on i have no mask I didn’t didn’t want to hide i was doing no I
was just there pissed up me a few beers and and you see a photo of me going and it looks like I’m
shouting but what I was saying can I get a yeah and I would go I would check in the piss but how
they’ve took the photo it looks like I’m going h like I’m angry but I want I was saying can I get
a yeah and if you do your mouth and I swear to God that’s exactly I was saying can I get an O yeah
but proper shouting can I get an O yeah there were Oh my my mate Rashid me barber is [ __ ] Muslim
which I call him Muslim he cuts my ear i live at middle of far from racist and how the how how
the government portrayed me and said listen I said send me to prison do whatever you want but please
don’t call me don’t call me a [ __ ] racist man cuz I’m far from my best man I’ve got photos he’s
a seek cutting me wedding cake cuz her dad she don’t speak to her dad but he he stepped in he’s
got his turban on and cutting our wedding cake now farmers supposed to do it now a racist don’t do
that a racist don’t do that a racist don’t live in middle of [ __ ] be do you know what I mean and
and that’s that’s that’s what hit me more i person call me a racist but I know you and I know you
and again just for the for this now where people have now and you’ve actually said look 20 at 27
year old I finally got to realize and found out that I had other brothers and I’m I’m black a
mixture i mean when you look at it technically speaking although people will look at you and look
at me we’re actually the same color just different different tones but I’m a little bit darker but
we’re actually the same I’ll be darker than you so no but if you look even when I went to jail they
said you can tell you’re mixed race you know what I mean all my life obviously I’m [ __ ] mixed race
and and and that that’s what hurt me is saying that I’m racist when I’m far from race if if I’m
going to get prosecuted for something prosecute me for something that I am don’t try to say that
don’t prosecute me for something that I’m [ __ ] not it’s like you getting prosecuted for shop
lifting and you haven’t done it if I’d done it I’m not bothered but I’m far from racist all about
my Because people will cuz people that So you got to remember there’s people that don’t know you
see you they say I’m a racist they’ll say you’re racist but people that do know you know me will
say “You [ __ ] Is he [ __ ] racist?” Yeah people who don’t know me they say “Oh yeah racist.” So
talk to us talk to us about cuz obviously you’ve spoke a little bit on this documentary that’s
about to come out so you got a documentary coming out got a documentary what’s going to come out
and uh now the full video is going to come out and what the judge said we do not want that put
in the public domain so when you’re seeing photos of me going like that now you’re going to see me
just saying “Can I get it?” Oh yeah and I’m and pissed up take it pissed not to do with racism not
to do with that within this documentary everybody will get to see the full story everyone will get
to see the full video of me saying and you even on the microphone saying “Let’s all be one.” Can
we all sit down and can we all be one it’s even going to be subtitled where you can hear it yeah
and and but the judge said “I don’t want that put in public domain.” Unlucky judge it’s getting
put in public domain but you do know there’s a part and obviously I’ve got I’ve got to say
it there’s a bit where they’re saying you’re singing that slogan which slogan allah allah yeah
yeah because obviously they said that in there as well obviously you’re gonna get people that are
going to go “Well did he?” All right right so so so in the papers it said I said Alan Alan the
Alan yeah right i did say that and I’ll I’ll put my hands up i did say that which I’ll piss
up i didn’t because it’s like I didn’t see any I didn’t mean it in an offensive way it was just
everyone starts chanting some so I’m pissed start shouting it i didn’t mean it in a [ __ ] bad way
i could lie now and say no I didn’t say I did say it you know what I mean but I didn’t mean it in to
to anybody it would they were chanting [ __ ] to us so we we it were like they chanting stuff and
then these start chanting stuff so and I would just I just went on with chant but I didn’t mean
it in a bad way i mean the key thing about is is all the way through you’ve been truthful and even
where it’s the most bit where you we get to this stage now and you go you could have lied i could
have said no do you know what it is yeah I did say and you put your hands up i shouldn’t have said
it i shouldn’t have said it but I didn’t mean it in in a a bad intentional way where I didn’t mean
to disrespect anyone you you wanted to offend it to offend it would just like there so you get
into it i shouldn’t have [ __ ] said it but do you know but I didn’t mean it in a like to to
offend them in any way it’s just like you get into a chat like football when you’re at a football
match and that’s how I seen it so I didn’t see it in any bad way i could have lied i could have
said no did I [ __ ] I stick with my story what I said at the police station i could have said I
was saying Allan Allen do you know what I mean i ain’t I told you it [ __ ] truth and I didn’t
mean it i didn’t mean it in a to offend them in any way just like it’s like a football champ
that’s all it was but in your documentary is it going to show that in documentary it’ll it’ll show
that all right so I’ll I’ll speak I’ll speak the truth i won’t lie about what I’ve done I’ll I’ll
there’s no point lying about one thing and I won’t I don’t need to lie because I did nothing wrong i
did nothing wrong that day do you know what it is it takes it’s again it takes a a real a real man
to admit his faults yeah yeah i know that will f and put his hands up and you know a lot of people
a lot of people are watching and go you know what respect to him so we’ve gone we’ve gone through a
life story a little bit aren’t we um but my thing is where what about now where are we now where are
we now which let’s talk let’s talk personal life and let’s talk predator exposure right personal
life is like it’s obviously I have to you’re going down slides in um in little places that you didn’t
get listen when you’re at work you know if you see a slide if you at work you go down that slide
you’ve got to have a go while you didn’t get stuck on [ __ ] hell I’m back with Brock as well but no
I do that uh I go to work I go to work every day uh the the police it’s the police not the courts
they put a ban from me where I can’t be with three or more people causing alarm or distress now out
of all bear in mind I want done for writing but out of all the writers no writers have had this
put on them this this this what I got 5 years was it 5 years which don’t that’s getting sorted
any but they put five years on ban on me now out of people who bricks I’m being racist not one of
them none of them have got this order what I got they said west Yorkshire please put an order on me
saying they said to James get is order on in said no just Philip Orin yeah now you know why they put
that order on me to stop me going doing predator exposure that’s why because we Yeah that’s only
to stop me going catching pedophiles bearing in mind the guy who outside who side of me he’s been
done for riots he’s been done for going to protest yeah for public disorder he said he’s been done
for public disorder yeah listen he he’s been done for it all before I’ve never been done for it in
my life but I get an order put on me for 5 years and that’s because of predator exposure because
the government don’t want me going out catching pedophiles so just so we’re clear so this 5year
order that’s been placed on news where you can’t be with more than two or three people three or
more people in a public area okay so you’re saying cuz obviously I’m not you’re saying that you
believe just you believe cuz you can’t prove it but you believe that but you so you believe that
that’s to stop you from going out and being around your team predator exposure and and catching more
pedophiles well you’ve got a person who’s side of MC dock yeah he’s been done for racism he’s been
done for [ __ ] uh writing he’s been done for a lot police don’t want know what to do with him
judge said is the one on Mr. Getting’s and said no just Mr. but this is West Yorkshire police by
the way so not to do with judge judge ain’t done this himself this is West Yorkshire police who’s
putting against me to make sure I’m not with three or more people west York police ain’t got a club
that’s going to [ __ ] hit him soon by the way you know what I mean we we’re coming back with
a bang and I will be back I’ll be back soon as my my recall license over I’m on license I’ve got
an I got an extended license as well to bear in mind I’m not a [ __ ] criminal but they’ve given
extended license till uh till December do you know someone’s that December license over yeah I’m on
I’m on a five year order where I can’t be but you know when then they have to take me to trial then
and when they say right yeah Mr. Hoban’s going to come this but he’s uh he’s caught a pedophile will
come to meet a child what you going to do are you going to send me to jail this this man has come
to meet a child to rape her child and now you’re going to send Mr. Hoban to jail now fun’s going to
begin and you’ll see papers soon after Christmas one of the things that um that came into my mind
with the predator exposure and it only came to me because through through work to be fair but and
I don’t know if you do do it but it was one of the things for cuz obviously you’ve got you’ve got
female members that pretend to be certain age deco have you got males that do it as well yeah not
a lot but more females more female so I’m just thinking like counseling wise like would is the
counseling place for it or is it something that going forward we we’ve had people who said listen
we’ll we’ll counsel you know because some of the [ __ ] that we read I have to read as well but the
decoys they do all the ad work I get easy part I just come give you [ __ ] some [ __ ] for a [ __ ]
hour or I mean you must read some disturbing stuff no some of the stuff we don’t read all the stuff
out and some of it and some of the pictures you see is like I I started off by myself and I used
to lay in bed I couldn’t even give our last one mate and serious that’s how bad it was and she’d
be touching me leg and ready to go and I were like I can’t man because of the the [ __ ] that yeah
the just not the image just the messages that if I showed you some of the messages and you’ll be
like you’d be you’d you’d bite your [ __ ] hand mate Cuz and people say “Oh P of exposure you
bullying him.” Nah no they only see a little bit into what way you’re not getting the full You
don’t know what he said in all you don’t know you don’t Yeah you don’t know do you know what I mean
and it’s dark web it’s [ __ ] dark [ __ ] a lot of people going through the dark web now yeah yeah
of course they are you You You can’t even imagine some of the [ __ ] you I bet some of the [ __ ]
that you read on there you think you never even thought of in your life and then we have to read
that and go like that and people say why is Phil talking he’s bullying them i don’t talk to [ __ ]
kids and I won’t be coming to meet you if you you know don’t speak to kids end of that’s that’s
the bottom line and I do is like like I told prosecution before it’s a deterrent hopefully you
won’t do it again after you spoke to me you’re not going to speak to kids I [ __ ] again do not speak
to kids if you got girls I’ve got girls if someone and people say oh you’re bullying them listen
if they were talking to your [ __ ] kids you won’t be just talking to them like I’m talking
to you’d be cutting the throat yeah because Because with the greatest respect I think any
It’s [ __ ] hard it’s hard mate i was going to say for you and your team to sit and regardless
of what you say you are you are reading through it not reading it out but you are reading through
it because you’ve got to make sure there’s little boxes you’ve got to take in yeah your course is we
we have to stay within the guidelines cuz we know where we can go and where we can’t go but then
you obviously there’s the guidelines where you got to get your stuff together and you go “Right
we’re going for them now evidence yeah you have to gather that evidence you have that you have that
evidence back so once you have that evidence is it a bit heartbreaking when you know that this person
even though it’s a decoy you know that this person is responsible for other crimes and then you give
it to the police and then there’s no cuz obviously there’s cases where there’s no they have no case
to answer to that no so are you on about like if if we just pass it over to please if you do that
the police don’t do no so we tried that once we So we’ve got all the evidence together we give him
to it uh 6 months later he’s still talking to us and on it time the police are they’ll they lacked
on it 6 months later he’s still talking to they should get him if me to your decoy 6 months after
you gave after after 6 month after still talking and we left that one please and see how long it’ll
take 6 months after he’s still talking decoys got back to me and said listen he’s he’s still online
he’s still talking right let’s go get him then the police are lapped once we put on live and once we
do it the police don’t do nothing but say like me and you were going to go rob a bank if someone
said that say like if we were sitting here now and someone give our location where we are now
police will be here straight away aren’t police they come and get us straight away yeah yeah yeah
you say that about a child molester is going to go do this they didn’t do [ __ ] all our kid and
this is why we exposure is the key cuz the police don’t do no anyhow but if we expose you it might
be your next door neighbor you might watch bit of exposure you might say “That’s my next door
neighbor.” You keep your [ __ ] kids in now you’re not going to let them go in paddling pool
cuz it’s summer coming do you know and it’s it’s it is all about exposure and people say “But you
shouldn’t expose them why shouldn’t you expose them?” Please your if your next door neighbors are
pedophile police aren’t going to come and knock on your door and say “Do you know he’s a nonce next
door?” They’re not going to say that but if you watch Predator Exposure if you listen next door
to it I’m going to tell you the [ __ ] nonce next door and and people say “Well they might kill
them selves or like or something like that.” Yeah because do Yeah because you do read stories
where I think there’s another organization where they don’t go to the police they just put it out
online and say this and I think there’s been quite a few vigilante crimes cuz people have called you
vigilant and I I hate the word you call vigilante because vigilante would normally go out balaclava
on baseball bats and just [ __ ] le like the purge yeah it’d be nice if you could if and I tell
you now it would be nice if we could do that and to be fair you wouldn’t be the only people
doing it would you no no no would we f everyone would do it wouldn’t we cuz we’ve all got kids
and we’d all protect our kids but but it’s it’s like uh it would be it would be really nice but
unfortunately we have to stick with the laws and get them arrested and we went to court before and
she said well prosecution said well to be fair Mr Hoba and he said you put their faces all over
internet and he said he have been found guilty yet he’s is in it don’t you believe in innocent till
proven guilty I said I don’t I said you brought me to court I said don’t that work both ways you put
my address in every newspaper well I’m at court now I said you put me all over ITV news I said you
give me address out you give me name out I said I innocent till proven guilty he went and sat Am
I right he’s saying innocent until proven guilty but you just put my name and address out there me
[ __ ] proper address me where your wife and kids are where me wife and kids are we don’t even do
that to nonsense we don’t give their address out we give their name but we don’t say where they
live you’ve just posted my name and address where my wife and kids are i’ve done [ __ ] all
wrong and you’re telling me don’t you believe in innocent until proven guilty I’m on trial here
but I’m not being found guilty yet and you’re still So no so what’s so that being said are you I
mean in your opinion how how what about are you do you think the justice system is [ __ ] [ __ ] eat
[ __ ] that’s that’s all I can say eat [ __ ] but but do you know uh for what I did and if there’s
any people out there Asian people or all that if I did offend them I I am truly sorry for for for
offending them and I I mean that from the bottom of me i didn’t mean to offend anyone and I I I
truly apologize for my actions but it weren’t meant in for what I did was not meant to anybody
yeah wasn’t it wasn’t meant to cause alarm and No no no it won’t it won’t it won’t meant in that
way but how the government’s made it because of I think because of ped exposure they’ve made it out
bad don’t forget they’ve only seen like snippets of me going and it looks like I’m shouting but
when to see the video off of this what comes out you’ll see I’m actually saying can I get a [ __ ]
yeah and just I was taking the piss just saying oh yeah pissed up and people and even the bit that
you go on the mic so can’t we all be one and and and that part when I say can we all sit down can
we all be one let’s all be one now this is going to come out which the judge didn’t show that but
now they’re going to see the full video rather than people just taking snippets off and saying
what I would say is cuz you obviously you can go online now cuz when you’re sentenced you can you
get the cameras from the courtroom and what the judge says and Yeah yeah you don’t see my side
though yeah no you don’t see your side but what I’m saying is people after this video goes out
people are going to look and search and and go “Oh yeah but he did do this and yeah he did.” You’re
saying you’re saying “Wait for the documentary wait for the documentary to come out and they’re
only going to see a bit of me you see a a video of me going like that looks like I’m shouting
which once they see then they’ll see that.” Yeah then there’s another one saying uh where I said
“Well we said Allan but yeah.” And I’ve owed me hands up to that and I totally apologize for that
and if I disrespected I didn’t mean to [ __ ] it half m British Pakistanis so I didn’t mean to to
disrespect them whatsoever and it would not to do with that it’s like like I said it were like a
football match they were chanting listen you white bastard we’re going to be ed and rape your [ __ ]
moms they started chanting that i chanted it back and it were like but it were not like stupid
just [ __ ] an idiot you know and people say oh yeah well you always speak truth when you’re
drunk no [ __ ] off man i’ I’ve told some right ugly birds when I’m drunk oh you’re gorgeous you I
love you full of [ __ ] no do you know what I mean i mean you go “Yeah you’re gorgeous.” So then
people who aren’t drunk before will say “Will you speak truth when you’re drunk?” Like I said
I’ve said “Oh you’re [ __ ] gorgeous you I’m just wanting to get me end she’s ugly as [ __ ] mate.”
But I’ve been pissed does So the count then where I’m not speaking truth I’m [ __ ] lying I’m just
talking [ __ ] just to So where’s life now then where is life for you life now i suppose you were
saying that’s going to come back around December time what about you what about your personal life
i just say you’ve got a lovely family back oh yeah yeah thank you sir i mean life now is just like
try to bring my son up [ __ ] and my daughters uh best they can and to get this stigma away from
me is like I don’t want them people even if one person says your dad’s a racist which I’m not
i don’t want that because me family is a lovely family but I what I me going to say the one thing
that I’ve sensed during this this this here this interview is the main thing for you is being
labeled a racist label a racist that’s the main thing is and for me kids for me and no one says
no to them but I just don’t want people to look and say oh that’s your dad is a race most people
when we go out in le everyone well all the people they all praise me yeah yeah and they know I’m not
[ __ ] racist black white Chinese [ __ ] whatever they they’re all on my side and they know I’m
not someone who speaks to me can say he’s not a [ __ ] racist man i went to PlayStation they went
uh and I didn’t know what far right were i didn’t know what far left were so and so I was sat there
and that’s the God’s honest truth so I’ve gone to PlayStation they said “We believe you’re the
leader of the far right.” I went like that to Judy solicit i went “What’s far right mean?” So he went
uh cuz I didn’t know he said “Oh you’re a racist you’re a racist cunt.” I went “Whoa whoa whoa time
out stop here.” They were trying to make out that I were one of the [ __ ] leader i didn’t know what
far now I know what is cuz now I’ve looked into it you’ve had to look into it now I’ve had to look
into it when you get label of course I have and so I’ve looked into it and it were like “Nah no
don’t call me a [ __ ] racist man I’ve grown up in beaten Rashi Chaffy my best [ __ ] pal Pakistani
i fought Gora with white men with him.” Yeah and who tried to attack him before we were I
remember on a bus I think we were in Pontefract or somewhere I can’t remember where we went loads
of Gora tried attacking him I I were the other [ __ ] Gora [ __ ] jumped in with him and and
fighting them we beat him as well do you know what I mean but he were my best mate at my wedding
he did a dance with me at my wedding Pakistani if people search you’ll be able to see it online
see all these things yeah Fana she cooks me food she when My wife if she were when she’s working
say I’ll put oh I’m hungry I can’t be asked Fana will say listen I’ve made you some curry come up I
go up to visana fana chafe go up to her house k uh uh so yeah well respected within the area and I
think obviously everybody see I can see it now that’s what bothers you the most it does it hurts
me that being said really hurts me yeah yeah yeah but that’s that that that being said what about
so what I want to know now is what what’s going on within your life where you’re saying just
bring up your kids your boy so what anything planned for the future is there anything on the
horizon no just like get this documentary out and show people the video now the truth now and just
to say so anyone who doubted me just to say “Fuck you you should never have doubted me you should
never thought I were racist.” I think I don’t think your true friends will doubt you though no
no no no I’ve still got all my friends but for all the people who don’t know me to say do you know
what you’re actually writing he He ain’t a [ __ ] racist to show how corrupt this government is and
to show how they turned it and switched it and like pulled things out you think it’s a protection
because of what you do with predator exposure I’m getting too close to one of them [ __ ] that’s
what I think I’m getting too close to them do you know what I mean and predator exposure if
anybody looks predator exposure it’s a massive follow it goes global we think it goes if I did
a live video now we we’d have [ __ ] thousands of followers just looking at us watching us so
I could you know and I think it would like like when police got me and they said “Oh well it’s
safe to say that uh everybody looks up to you Phil you’ve got a an influence on people.” I said
“What do you mean?” Cuz I don’t see it as that i But people looking from outside they see predator
exposure Phil Hoban he’s he’s the main man and this is what police were saying well you’ve got
an influence on people i said “And people will follow you.” I said “What you on about?” I said
“I see what they try to do they’re trying to link that with this march with the far right and say
you like I’m like and and two separate entities yeah yeah totally this weren’t planned this one
just like on day oh do you want to come town yeah we’ll go have some beers get over there
someone’s on a m Oh go a mate can I get a Oh [ __ ] yeah oh they’re all saying white bastards
whatever we’re going to be Oh shut up cry and and that were it and basically that were [ __ ] not
to do with let’s go you don’t see me at marches I’ve never been to marches Tommy Robinson or doing
this or I’m not into politics I’m not into that stay away from it no I stay away from all that
well listen I just I just want to thank you for coming i mean usually this at this bit we usually
give the opportunity for somebody to ask me a question um and again very similar to yourself
very open so you can if you don’t have a question then that’s fine but if you do then by all means
you can ask any question you want can I ask you a question of course you can do you think I’m racist
uh see this is difficult for me no listen let me explain it should be easy question no no because
I know you personally no because I know you so I know you’re not a racist so for the camera people
are going to go “Yeah but he’s going to say that because he knows him.” All right we’ll just But
however based on what you’ve said to me then no if I would if I didn’t know you Yeah then I would say
“Hell no not a racist.” So you still if you didn’t know me you still say I’m I still know you’re
not a racist so I’ve got no Yeah yeah i love me no honestly I I don’t think you was rich i think
I think I think we one of the things it was is I think again you’d had a couple of drinks nothing
i shouldn’t have said what I said you should have said no listen you’ve No it was not in a It still
weren’t racist yeah you said look you you you look at the same time you said what you said you your
intentions behind what you said wasn’t to cause alarm and destroy it was just two things going
back and forth but however what I will say is I don’t agree with what you said no I shouldn’t
have said it i should I don’t I personally don’t believe that you’re I didn’t mean any intention
in what I [ __ ] did that kid and and like I say I live in [ __ ] Miller Bent they still all love me
and they still sit they still feed me and [ __ ] like that say no I’m not a racist your wife and
kids still love you your family still love you you’re still respected within your area for the
work that you do and not only that your wider community of the work that you do through pred uh
predator exposure they respect you as well saving their kids don’t matter if you if they’re black
the the white well you got to look at it this way it’s a conversation that can be had because when
you go on and someone watches your thing then that parent or carer mom dad whatever it is they can
then sit down with their kids and say “Listen if you’re speaking to someone online blah blah blah
blah blah.” So really you’re educated at the same time trying to trying to some some don’t take
it but but it’s like like we’re here I if if if there’s a child predator out there don’t matter
if he tries gets an Asian kid I’m still going to go catch that predator stop him from getting that
Asian kid so there’s no there’s no color involved there’s no color involved whatsoever don’t matter
what [ __ ] color they are if you’re a predator and you’re going to try and get a kid don’t matter
what color that kid is I’m going to come and get you I’m going to expose your [ __ ] ass so so
do you know what I mean so we are expecting big things big things coming December just get me
holiday out way come back and then I’m back and then predator exposure is back and the nonsilizer
will be on charge and they’re going to blow into it then if I do get arrested which I know I
will get arrested cuz they will try some but I’m willing to then go to trial you for that i had
to go guilty this time because they said to my wife £85,000 the time half 9 in morning I didn’t
have 85 half grand I had no one to represent me so it were like I’ve got a crown court and
even judge said where’s he didn’t even say where’s the representation it were like I couldn’t
afford a barrister so it were like someone said uh one walked past he said listen just go guilty
you you won’t get as long if you go if you go not guilty you’re looking at 4 and a half years It
were like easy way out listen I put my hands up guilty eight months which was it i had no choice
i had no one to There were no one even to tell me what were happening in court yeah that’s a justice
system yeah but but at least that no one even come up to me and said “This is what’s going to happen
today this is what’s going to happen.” It like put in front of a judge who we just got not guilty on
i had no one to say would have thought so this is again so I would have thought and this last
thing I say I would have thought that being with Predator Exposure you would have had like a
like a legal representative who does it for free who can kind of guide you stuff like that no one
does for free no one does £85,000 they wanted you know what I mean and it were like and it were like
so what do I do i’ve got a a crown court there go guilty you get Jordan and he got 8 month 8 month
or go not guilty you’re looking at 4 and a half year were like there’s no one even telling me what
do you do 8 month no no no even come it were like take the 8 month go not guilty I’m going to go to
court anyhow i still can’t afford a barrister so I’m so what’s the [ __ ] point so and if you
look at half of these uh who’s gone to court there were woman she she worked in a care room
she filmed the rights what were going on in I can’t remember where it was cuz she filmed it and
posted on her thingy she got [ __ ] 32 a month in jail and all she she’s a care worker all she
did is film it and posted it on and she got 32 a month for it wow and because everybody got Why
can’t they fast track pedophiles as fast as what they track me within two week I was sent to locked
up sentenced and in jail I was so why can’t they do that with pedophile at ped in pedophilia more
dangerous than me being out on that street going like that rubbing my [ __ ] lip but you’ve got
people who try to rape kids and they’ll be on bail for three [ __ ] year now why can’t they fast
track them and send them away they were pedophile I think a week after I got caught my team sent
me in they said uh he got caught well he raped a 12 year old jail you know why judge didn’t send
prison because jails were too full but I’m in there rubbing my lip jails are too full the judge
said to him “You’re a very lucky man you’re not going to prison today cuz the jails are too full
so I’m going to give you a suspended sentence.” 12 year old [ __ ] girl mate we could go forever
Phil of course we could appreciate your time
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If your mixed race you should know better ,, stop ya lying yourca racist en of