HI all, I'm working on optimizing my Brompton T Line 12-speed for lightweight touring across Asia, where minimizing weight for multi-modal transport (bike + train/bus/etc.) is a top priority. I'm interested in going with carbon wheels to save as much weight as possible.

I've done some research and have a few questions I’d love input on:

What I Know So Far:

  • I’m aware of the limitations of carbon rims, especially in wet braking and aggressive downhill scenarios — but I’m willing to work within those tradeoffs in exchange for the weight savings.
  • I’ve noticed many carbon wheelsets are marketed for 1-speed, 4-speed, or 6/7-speed Bromptons, but almost never for the 12-speed T Line setup. I'm assuming this is due to the Sturmey-Archer 3-speed hub used in the 12-speed, which is trickier to accommodate with standard off-the-shelf carbon rims.

What I’m Trying to Figure Out:

  • Has anyone successfully built a carbon wheel using the 12-speed T Line rear hub (i.e., lacing a carbon rim onto the SA hub)?
  • Is it feasible for someone without prior wheel-building experience to do this, or should I definitely go through a professional builder?
  • Are there any carbon wheelsets or rims compatible with the 12-speed Brompton that are already out there (and maybe just under-advertised)?

Would love to hear from others who’ve tried to go this route — what worked, what didn’t, and any specific product or service provider recs. Don’t want to go in blind if there are key limitations or tips I should be aware of.

by holy_yap

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  1. Deviantdefective on

    I really wouldn’t encourage carbon rims for long distance touring. If you’re set on the idea though carbon rims can be built onto the Sturmey Archer hub there’s no difficulties with that. This is not a job you should even consider doing yourself wheel building is an art form and it’s crucial you have someone with experience do it for you.

  2. The bulk of the weight in the 12 speed rear wheel is obviously the hub, I’ll try and find my weights spreadsheet but the rims are already pretty light – from memory, the savings would be c.140g – a bit more if you went for something a bit more exotic like extralite rims. The front wheel could save you c.120g with extralite rims and hub (again from memory)

    If you moved to 4/5 speed that would save c.970g like for like

    I’m sure a good builder could build you a custom wheelset

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