Dang glad you didnāt get hurt bad. Sucks about your wheel. Iāve done that before. At least itās a chance to upgrade š¬
Honestly, the more you jump the less you fall. But in this specific instance, looks like you got a little off balance on the take off and the rear drifted left. You rear-cased the step up which kicked it back out to the right and thatās what really threw you off. Correct speed, correct body position, and better in-air control will all help. This all comes with experience and practice.
Tyron_Slothrop on
Sorry for the crash. On the good side, corner canyon is awesome. I prefer vertigo
solidoxygen8008 on
Looks like you werenāt straight on your line and tried to correct in the air – as a result you turned your front wheel which was no longer pointing in the direction you were going. When you landed you continued in the direction you were going minus the front wheel that was pointed elsewhere. At that point you were OTB with a healthy helping of ground. Sometimes we have to commit to a line that isnāt ideal but it keeps us from eating ground.
ArcherCat2000 on
Every time I’ve seen a stock wheel break from regular use, it’s been a WTB ST series rim. Had you checked it for dents or cracks in the weeks preceding the break?
Independent_Bath_922 on
Wheel wasn’t pointed in the direction you intended to go
Imanisback on
You landed rear first and had the bars twisted when the front came down. Like you were leaning to one side and trying to recover by turning out of it, but your front was still in the air.
But…. it doesnt seem that bad. Maybe the camera makes it look more mild than it is, but it looks like Ive done way worse and been able to recover. Also seems to be a really low-impact to destroy a wheel. So was your wheel out of tune? Broken in some way? Not really anything you can do about that.
redsprucetree on
Was this a blind jump? Looks like you froze up, pulled left, cased it, and got bucked forward. Since your rear wheel hit first, most of your weight landed on the off-kilter front wheel, washing you out. Make sure youāre using bunnyhop form so that your rear wheel clears. Extend the bike away from you when landing ā you want both wheels to hit at the same time.
Try to be liquid and always do a scouting run before trying blind jumps (unless youāre a pro or something). You look a bit stiff on the run-up. Adjust your rebound so you donāt get bucked, and try to āsuck inā the rear or extend the front when needed.
In a situation like that, I wouldāve tried to throw my ass back as far as I can and extend my arms ā that would mitigate the OTB risk at the very least. Jumps are scary tho and thereās very little time to think. Keep shredding. Also Iām no pro so take this with a grain of salt.
Edit: It looks like your arms are pulling unevenly on the takeoff (on all of the jumps). Thatās a no-no and will cause crashes. Donāt pull with your arms, pull with your weight. Throw your weight back like youāre doing a manual, your arms will lock out evenly and pull the front up. After that, lift the rear and push the bike away from you. If you canāt manual yet, learn before you jump again.
sanjuro_kurosawa on
I looked at the vid as slow as I could, and you had right brake lever covered, which I believe is your front. That’s probably not a great way to ride the jumps.
I can’t be sure, but when you are crashing, you are definitely squeezing the right lever. It looks like you were close to the bottom of the landing too, which may have caused some panic.
Besides scrubbing speed, you could probably caught a bit more air which have slowed your horizontal motion.
br0ck on
I think the wheel was pointed left and you were leaning left, your inclination to balance would be turn the wheel left, but in this instance it caught the dirt and turned violently more leftward than intended until it was perpendicular to your movent and then took all the force of your forward momentum and crumpled. Proper technique on takeoff in the air and landing will keep you from landing with a lean. Strong arms can keep the wheel from getting yanked to one side. I had a number of falls early on before I learned proper attack position and to never allow the wheel to get yanked like when your hand hits a tree or you land with a side pointing wheel.
seems like you’re more advanced, but this 5 part beginner series from shred academy is good. he has a bunch of other videos that break down the jhop, timing and such: https://youtu.be/RPomn0t6wK4
advanced air control from Slanted Ground is good for breaking down how actions in the air can adjust your angle and direction of landing (he also has a bunch of great jump videos): https://youtu.be/qVRKoeYoxRE
I have that wheel and tire combo and first hard ride I bent the rim. Shop still can’t get it trued.
So that could be part of the problem
freeski919 on
How you can avoid doing this again is by sending it harder. You cased the jump with your rear wheel, which caused your front wheel to slam down hard.
Yetiriders on
Don’t let the bike lead you, lead the bike. You lost the front and turned the wheel 90 degrees
flirtylabradodo on
You dead sailored, which had you in the air off-axis, then rear tire hit the ground while your upper body continued the off axis path (taking the still airborne front wheel with it), sealing the deal. Once youād taken off there wasnāt much you could do.
Luckyirishdevil on
Re-watch the video frame by frame. You land leaning to the left and your wheel is kicked that way. Your momentum was all straight down the trail, but I think landing your rear tire first put you off balance.
Broccoli_Sensei on
I appreciate all the feedback guys. Sounds like a need to for sure work on my jumping technique. In my mind I was just kind of riding off the lips. I thought I had cleared it but I guess not, clearly.
Narrow_Limit2293 on
Was that a 29ā wheel?
Unique_File3417 on
Ok so first you werenāt looking very comfortable on those jumps which is fine because everyone starts somewhere. At the jump you crashed on you were going a bit angled towards the left, you saw this and what looked like corrected it at the very last moment, this with not enough speed and a bad rim caused you to land funny, your rim to taco and for you to fall. Next time I would say generally on trials like the one your on try to stick to the right slightly more so thereās less room for error and just try getting more comfortable in the air.
Anyways Iām really glad youāre doing ok and didnāt hurt anything severely. Hopefully you get to riding again soon!
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It looks like you got scared and that’s when mistakes happen
Where is this? Looks awesome.
Looks like you landed rear first and lost the front
See how long you can leave your bike there for š
https://preview.redd.it/d47j5o7evf2f1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23b940e1e8913f81c1bd6c368a01966cd3f9b10a
Dang glad you didnāt get hurt bad. Sucks about your wheel. Iāve done that before. At least itās a chance to upgrade š¬
Honestly, the more you jump the less you fall. But in this specific instance, looks like you got a little off balance on the take off and the rear drifted left. You rear-cased the step up which kicked it back out to the right and thatās what really threw you off. Correct speed, correct body position, and better in-air control will all help. This all comes with experience and practice.
Sorry for the crash. On the good side, corner canyon is awesome. I prefer vertigo
Looks like you werenāt straight on your line and tried to correct in the air – as a result you turned your front wheel which was no longer pointing in the direction you were going. When you landed you continued in the direction you were going minus the front wheel that was pointed elsewhere. At that point you were OTB with a healthy helping of ground. Sometimes we have to commit to a line that isnāt ideal but it keeps us from eating ground.
Every time I’ve seen a stock wheel break from regular use, it’s been a WTB ST series rim. Had you checked it for dents or cracks in the weeks preceding the break?
Wheel wasn’t pointed in the direction you intended to go
You landed rear first and had the bars twisted when the front came down. Like you were leaning to one side and trying to recover by turning out of it, but your front was still in the air.
But…. it doesnt seem that bad. Maybe the camera makes it look more mild than it is, but it looks like Ive done way worse and been able to recover. Also seems to be a really low-impact to destroy a wheel. So was your wheel out of tune? Broken in some way? Not really anything you can do about that.
Was this a blind jump? Looks like you froze up, pulled left, cased it, and got bucked forward. Since your rear wheel hit first, most of your weight landed on the off-kilter front wheel, washing you out. Make sure youāre using bunnyhop form so that your rear wheel clears. Extend the bike away from you when landing ā you want both wheels to hit at the same time.
Try to be liquid and always do a scouting run before trying blind jumps (unless youāre a pro or something). You look a bit stiff on the run-up. Adjust your rebound so you donāt get bucked, and try to āsuck inā the rear or extend the front when needed.
In a situation like that, I wouldāve tried to throw my ass back as far as I can and extend my arms ā that would mitigate the OTB risk at the very least. Jumps are scary tho and thereās very little time to think. Keep shredding. Also Iām no pro so take this with a grain of salt.
Edit: It looks like your arms are pulling unevenly on the takeoff (on all of the jumps). Thatās a no-no and will cause crashes. Donāt pull with your arms, pull with your weight. Throw your weight back like youāre doing a manual, your arms will lock out evenly and pull the front up. After that, lift the rear and push the bike away from you. If you canāt manual yet, learn before you jump again.
I looked at the vid as slow as I could, and you had right brake lever covered, which I believe is your front. That’s probably not a great way to ride the jumps.
I can’t be sure, but when you are crashing, you are definitely squeezing the right lever. It looks like you were close to the bottom of the landing too, which may have caused some panic.
Besides scrubbing speed, you could probably caught a bit more air which have slowed your horizontal motion.
I think the wheel was pointed left and you were leaning left, your inclination to balance would be turn the wheel left, but in this instance it caught the dirt and turned violently more leftward than intended until it was perpendicular to your movent and then took all the force of your forward momentum and crumpled. Proper technique on takeoff in the air and landing will keep you from landing with a lean. Strong arms can keep the wheel from getting yanked to one side. I had a number of falls early on before I learned proper attack position and to never allow the wheel to get yanked like when your hand hits a tree or you land with a side pointing wheel.
seems like you’re more advanced, but this 5 part beginner series from shred academy is good. he has a bunch of other videos that break down the jhop, timing and such: https://youtu.be/RPomn0t6wK4
advanced air control from Slanted Ground is good for breaking down how actions in the air can adjust your angle and direction of landing (he also has a bunch of great jump videos):
https://youtu.be/qVRKoeYoxRE
Submit it to Pinkbike Friday Fails and ask Cathro to break it down. https://www.pinkbike.com/video/friday-fails/
I have that wheel and tire combo and first hard ride I bent the rim. Shop still can’t get it trued.
So that could be part of the problem
How you can avoid doing this again is by sending it harder. You cased the jump with your rear wheel, which caused your front wheel to slam down hard.
Don’t let the bike lead you, lead the bike. You lost the front and turned the wheel 90 degrees
You dead sailored, which had you in the air off-axis, then rear tire hit the ground while your upper body continued the off axis path (taking the still airborne front wheel with it), sealing the deal. Once youād taken off there wasnāt much you could do.
Re-watch the video frame by frame. You land leaning to the left and your wheel is kicked that way. Your momentum was all straight down the trail, but I think landing your rear tire first put you off balance.
I appreciate all the feedback guys. Sounds like a need to for sure work on my jumping technique. In my mind I was just kind of riding off the lips. I thought I had cleared it but I guess not, clearly.
Was that a 29ā wheel?
Ok so first you werenāt looking very comfortable on those jumps which is fine because everyone starts somewhere. At the jump you crashed on you were going a bit angled towards the left, you saw this and what looked like corrected it at the very last moment, this with not enough speed and a bad rim caused you to land funny, your rim to taco and for you to fall. Next time I would say generally on trials like the one your on try to stick to the right slightly more so thereās less room for error and just try getting more comfortable in the air.
Anyways Iām really glad youāre doing ok and didnāt hurt anything severely. Hopefully you get to riding again soon!