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Newsweek reports a possible Russian shoot down of a Ukrainian F-16. Are the Russians blasting Vipers out of the sky? Was it an accident and are the Russians are capitalizing on it? Leave your comments below!!!
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49 Comments
Feelings? You're going with feelings? C'mon dude.
You will know in 10 years when actual truth will come out. Realistically F-16 is just a hardware, if pilot sucks who cares what he is flying.
Algorithmic engagement comment.
Y'all need to start using some adblockers lol
I'm basically glued to all of the OSINT accounts trying to get the latest information…
that being said this claim was made and then nothing ever came of it so I'm going to say this is just another fake claim.
To supply just three… can you imagine the middle east war and only having limited supply, and that's a first world nation going against non-first world militia. If Ukraine can pull this off, this would make America look really, really, reallyyyyyyy bad as they couldn't beat the Taliban a non-peer militia.
You really need to put ad-blocker on the browser you use to show us articles…..seriously
As the war drags on it is inevitable that one will be lost to enemy fire, no aircraft is incapable of being shot down, as the Serbs proved with the F-117 they took down during the Balkans conflict – A Serbian Army Unit took it out with a S-125 Neva/Pechora surface-to-air missile. In such contested airspace, with enough airframes entering the area, it was a case of WHEN not IF. However, there are no such reports on Ukrainian Telegram channels, not even the Official Ukrainian MoD one, deafly silent on the topic. That could mean they are trying to get information or it could be its bogus. My money is on bogus, likely a shoot down but misidentified airframe or it simply didn't happen at all.
You people are not even concerned about the life of ordinary ukraineia soldiers who are dieing in their hundreds
Maybe, we'll wait to hear some more, this may confirmed, or not.
You support the losing side, that's why it's so hard to admit any loss. When Russia has the other F-16's on display you'll still find a way of denying Ukraine lost.
Hows the Ghost Of Kiev doing? Come on guys, Ukrainians are basically Russians, they do the same thing Russians do….Chances are if you do a DNA test most Ukrainians are like 80% Russians……I don't trust either side to be honest.
Nice work, Mover and Gonky , for propagating Russian propaganda 👍
Several were destroyed, one to friendly fire (multiple sources in Telegram), some were taken out of commission on an airfield (again multiple sources and pics) by missiles and drone attacks. Why can't you believe that this one wasn't shot down? You know the F16 is useless on it's own and the roaming daily AWACS in the Black Sea is being jammed also on a daily basis. What do you do with no data link?
the junk mainstream media just posts U.S propeganda against the russian :)))
Fake news. I can confirm it is indeed impossible for Russia to shoot them out of the sky
Impossible, the Great NATO f16 is untouchable. The Russian shovels could never lol I doubt Ukraine even fly these often 😂 they treat them like the Abrams they sit in a garage because they are scared to loose them
Using Russian state media as your source of truth probably wasn't the best thing. You do know they have killed something like a thousand NATO tanks by those same sources right? More than have ever or possibly will ever be sent to Ukraine.
My BS meter is off the charts with this claim. I check Oryx darn near daily, and haven't seen anything about an additional F16 being lost or even damaged. Also, you can make the case that the F16 is arguably the most high profile weapons system Ukraine has, next to the Patriot, because of how few they have and the role they play. Losing one of these, as well as the very well trained pilot, would be darn near impossible to hide or ignore.
war tools break for 1000s o years no news, thats the point of weapons. even a blind man knows it
lol what a pointless video
Maybe it was the FireFox too much thinking and toning 🫣🤫✌️
Second airborne loss. Several have been lost to airfield strikes.
This is not news, US shot down 1 and almost another F18 and we are not even at war! BTW, President elected Trump will anounce he will rename Planet Earth to be called Planet USA!!!
The R37 has entered the chat…😂
Russian ministry of defense never mention that so it is bust . Ukraine is not using them at all or in extremely limited situation far from front and for sure stand no chance against AD and a to a arsenal
Was the Gettysburg anywhere nearby?
Well, if the Serbian air defences managed to shoot down one in 1999 , it may be the case the Russians made it 25 years later
A video released just the other day showed that the Russians just missed shooting down a Ukrainian MiG-29, though they claimed they got it. The Rusdians have lied about so much so often,
Well…..
This was informative LoL
Well we probably will never know. It must be borne in mind that these aircraft were given as game changing for Ukraine so the loss of another one could be used to imply that after all, they aren't so game changing. Also, if both were lost due to accidents or friendly fire, it may sort of cast doubt upon the competency of the Ukrainians. Then again, they say in war your best laid plans can fly out the window in the first five minutes…
Gonky, its ZA PO RO ZHIEE 😀 bless you, you are forgiven!
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I love how the Russians are constantly playing this “we shot down American XYZ!”. Don’t they realize that when they go on and on about a singular kill they just acknowledge how far superior our tech is to theirs? Would anyone go around bragging about taking down a 4 pointer on a hunt? Most of us don’t even know or care what their crap is even called. Hilarious.
Its war if they havent lost any they will.
Mover is now an Oligarch
That t shirt is hilarious
if russians claim they shot F-16 down, there most definitely was some MAJOR screwup somewhere on their side, that is how you interpret "news" coming out of putlerstan
When did Gonky become such a Russian shill?
Every time Russia claimed to have killed a HIMARS they always posted photos of a M1083 with the bigger windows and suicide doors. At this point if they claim any HVT I assume it's false until I see photos and an F-16 is such a huge propaganda win they would have a recon drone look at the crash site for sure.
They have bounty on Westen arms,60k$ on tanks 150k planes.Its good to be Russian soldier.No wonder they have lot of reserves.Hell the Russians pay good $.
Maybe you guys should get an ad blocker if you're gonna show these fake news articles
Maybe the F-16 they claimed to have shot down is the mock up from the movie Jewel of the Nile.
lol. Russians are very symbolic. They are. But if one looks at the Western side …. my, oh, my symbolism and stereotyping are off the charts
In 1999, a Yugoslavian named Zoltan shot down a F-117 Nighthawk using 1950s Russian technology. In war, anything is possible.
Hahahaha, so its impossible to shot down an F16 according ti this ptopaganda makers…
So since there isnt ANY other source outside of russia id rate this as 4 out of 5 Pinocchio's 🤣.
lol. Thumb nail with ET tail.
Why you hadding.
Why are you publishing a false bogus lie …. just for attention ?