Under 2000€, live in Perpignan, mainly daily commuting (up to 10km), occasionally long distance (100-200km). Should I go for the lighter Endurace and then change to gravel tyres, or go for the almost 11kg Grizl?
The Grizl's frame looks a bit better personally, but it's too heavy.
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The Grizl has mounting holes for luggage racks, which are very useful when you commute by bike.
Depends on your needs. Do you beed bags? Do you plan on bikepacking? Are you riding offroad or on? If you ride on a normal and dont need too many bags road get endurance and change to 32 road tyres no need gravel.
11 kg is not heavy. 🙂
If you like to go off road, I’d say go with a Grizl. I ride an Endurace and, while it can go off road, feels kind of “fragile” to me on gravel. Just a personal feeling, I know.
2 kg is not necessarily a dealbreaking amount of weight. A rule of thumb is that 1 kilogram is about 1 minute over a 1000 meter climb.
It depends on what you want to do with it. The Grizl can do many things the Endurace can’t:
– You can mount a rear rack (and it also has mounts for fork bags)
– It has a clutched derailleur so it is more suitable for off-road use
– The frame has clearance for much wider tires
– With the 48/30 chainrings it has a much easier climbing gear
With regards to the last point, if you are strong enough, then the Endurace will let you climb faster. But at the end of a long ride, if you are tired, and going up a steep climb, the easier gears on the Grizl will make it feel much easier.
Depends what you like, what your body is used to and what you’re capable of.
The wider tires on the grizl might be adding 400-500g to total bike weight when comparing the two.
I would go for 46/30 crankset with larger cassette, especially for touring or long climbs, and the ability to run wider tires, even though you can do a lot with 35mm ones which the endurace accommodates. More relaxed geometry, if the grizl has it, would also be an advantage. I’m 99% of the time in my 36t middle ring with a 11-34 cassette, and not even in the highest gear. If I’m climbing, then I’ll use the 26t, 48t is for a unusually strong tailwind, or if i want to go really fast down hill. Usually, just letting go of the brakes is enough to go faster than what i’m comfortable with in terms of speed and cornering, or 50-55km/h. Depending on skill or if the descent isn’t tricky, you could want to go faster.
The grizl is a more aggressive race type bike and the endurace had a more relaxed geo.
Get the grizl suspension 1by and u can eat potholes on ur commute
Alright, so contrary to what most expect, the Endurace actually has a higher stack-to-reach ratio than the Grizl, despite the Grizl being an adventure-focused gravel bike, which traditionally are rather slack in terms of geometry.
In size 2XS, it’s 1,44 vs. 1,53. (With the Stack+ and Reach+) This means that the Grizl is a very aggressive gravel bike out of the box.
If you want one for commuting, I’d still get the Grizl. I personally am doing just fine with the 45mm aggressive gravel tires. Doing wonders in the snow and nigh-ice actually. I’ll probably save more energy with road tires but I’m not really bothered enough to get some. Especially since it’s a 27,5 inch wheel.
If you are above XS, then the bike ships with 28 inch wheels, severely simplifying the switch to road tires.
Rack mounts are very good for daily use (except when you manage to strip one of them and therefore severely hinder the integrity of the rack 🥲), there’s a downtube mount and the fork also has mounts.
These are mostly used for bikepacking but if you did get an Endurace, you wouldn’t have those and wouldn’t be as flexible in the future. Restrap also has a light mount that is perfect for the fork and frees up the quite narrow handlebar.
Unless you’re looking for speed or a more performance geometry, I would personally opt for the Grizl. Larger tire clearance, I believe fender mounts and some fork mounts give you options to do more as you grow into cycling. Plus a lot of tire companies make big slick tires for commuting and mixed terrain riding