Two questions: are they really vintage? What is the make/model?

I think the red one is a Roadmaster, though the wheels don’t seem original.

I’m trying to figure out what these would be worth.

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by Broad-Fun-2053

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  1. The M on the front of the first bike is “Murray”. This is a pretty low end bike, probably from the late 1980’s

    The red one with the solid fork is decades older, although the wheels newer than that bike.

    These bikes have pretty low value and the value that they have will be determined by if the tires look good and they test ride well.

    Shorten that chain and make sure the fenders don’t rub on the test ride.

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