I wouldn’t have reported this pass myself, but Driving Instructors need to do a better job to stop this being an issue going forward.
Please watch this to see why I say it wasn’t a dangerous pass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xJIyv_2M5Y
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People have been duped again! There are many who are too quick to comment without knowing the facts. This might help a few people understand why I said this pass wasn't dangerous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xJIyv_2M5Y
We all make mistakes. Let’s get cyclingmikey opinion?
I personally would have contacted the driving instructor directly to hear what they had to say, if they argued I would then send it to the DVSA which would have been fairer. But in reality at that speed, I would not class it as dangerous
The DVSA almost never follow up on these complaints.
Rare bad take from Ashley on this one imo.
If the cyclist had positioned himself an open door widths, like he should, from the parked car then this would not have happened.
I'm also sure if they were not more worried about getting good internet footage they wouldn't find themself in so many situations
God that email. Cyclists are the worst!
The learner should have known better as well. Yes they're a learner and the instructor should have warned him before he approached the cyclist/parked car, but vulnerable road users are drilled into you enough during theory revision.
Maybe there are learners scraping through the theory test with minimal revision? Surely the DVSA can come up with a mandatory course that learners have to complete before they can sit the theory? Doesn't even have to be much, just mandatory reading/practice questions that you would expect a thorough learner to do anyway.
This cyclist should take some responsibiliy for a bad overtake of the parked car. It is suggested that cyclists take up a position of safety on the roads in areas of higher risk and he should have given the parked car plenty of room in case a door opened suddenly. This would also have caused the learner to hold back but I agree the driving instructor should have seen the danger and advised the pupil accordingly.
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How unfortunate that the highway code is so ambiguous.
Give them 1.5m before or after?
See what I mean!
It's usually a cop with me.
The pass was potentially dangerous, the instructor should have intervened much earlier to prevent the overtake and the cyclist appears to be one of those that likes to be on camera in order to make capital out of the mistakes of others. Great that the cyclist has a camera but I wonder if they’ve got a rear-view mirror, earlier use of which could have made this a non-event?
I think it's fine😅
Oh and also people are so gentle nowadays complaining about everything what is probably nothing I think these kind of peoples looking for trable and put others of course in trable. There are some cars whose passes cyclists too close I know but what can we do ? 😊
Local instructors in Walsall are generally terrible, been closed passed, they regularly park in cycle lanes to talk to pupils and park on pavements. Dire.
As you have said. Cyclists have a responsibility to look out for themselves, which a lot don't 🤔
The Highway Code is not law. Just like looking left and right and left again when crossing the road. It’s advisable not law. I give cyclists as much room as they give me when undertaking me when in slow moving traffic.Incidentally a cyclist running a red light IS THE LAW. I’m betting he hasn’t caught other cyclists doing that and reporting them.
I think the cyclist passed the parked car too closely. Had the cyclist moved out into the middle of the road on approach then the learner car would have had to have held back.
Did you look behind before moving over for the parked car ( in my experience most cyclists don't ). The driver was a learner, if you had more situational awareness you could have made allowances for this.
It was a learner after all and I’m sure he/she was told why they shouldn’t have done that. Not worth reporting.
Couldn't disagree with you more! Imagine IF – the cyclist hits a pothole or gets a flat tyre or has a mechanical problem or the car door opens or a car on the opposite side of the road pulls to its right slightly. There was * just * enough room for the pass, with absolutely zero leeway; any mistake and the cyclist is potentially under the wheels of the car. There's a reason why you leave 1.5m.
As for the cyclist looking at the driver, of course they did – how else will they anticipate what's going to happen next – the cyclist had to pull left to not collide with the car – if he'd carried on in a straight line, he'd have gone over the O of the word STOP and been incredibly close to the car. I challenge you to have a 2 tonne lump of metal driving 50 centimetres away from you and not divert your attention and eyes to it. Also he only clipped it well after the car had passed, not at the point the car is closest so your comment about the cyclist being more bothered about being more intent of saving the footage is not relevant.
The driving instructor probably has dual controls in this car and should have used them to stop the learner getting into what could have been a really nasty accident. Saying afterwards that "it didn't look too bad" is easy with the benefit of hindsight but there is zero room for error here and that's the big problem.
I don't know if you ride much but try it – try setting up the same scenario with you on the bike and see how you feel.
NB I think the cyclist should have adopted a more dominant road position, giving themselves more space from the parked car and that would very likely have prevented this situation from happening.
I appreciate your comment that the driver should have done better.
I think it was potentially dangerous. If the cyclist had hit a pothole, or if the door had opened on the parked car, while the car was overtaking, that may well have resulted in a crash.
I think you said it yourself in a previous video Ashley – if the cyclist were to fall sideways as you're overtaking, would you be certain you won't hit them? If not, it's dangerous.
And when cyclists run red lights and cycle dangerously what shall we do ? Pls use your time on this earth for better cis this is stupid calling dvsa over that mistake from the learner ???
Roads were designed for cars not for cyclists. Simply common sense. Same way cyclists, pedestrians are animals should not be on the road.
What sad cahoonts people are that complain like this😅 Get out of your little worlds and you'll see exactly how nobby you are.
Is it just me or no. I would cycle near the yellow line and look over my shoulder and indicate to pull out to pass a parked car. Only if it was clear would I go, if not break and wait for passing traffic to clear before proceeding.
Like the cyclists give pedestrians on the pavement plenty of room eh?
Over taking a cyclist who is passing a parked car at the same time is stupid.
I think a bus/ bus stop is 2,5 m wide.. my HGv fits in nearly in most normal 2,5 m lanes. That why we are excluded from 2 m lanes in construction / motorway lanes.