Mechanic Rates And Slates Popular Bike Brands

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we’re going to play a game that we’re calling love tolerate kill I’m going to list three things for example SRAM Shimano or campag and you’re going to have to pick which one you love which one you tolerate and which one you’d kill off entirely if you could titanium carbon alloy titanium what what about it just titanium sorry love titanium uh love titanium for the environment I’m going to say kill carbon tolerate alloy alloy is recycl carbon’s not mhm um in terms of riding I would say tolerate carbon kill alloy uh love Titanium on every aspect there is there’s nothing that you can’t love it for I’m for this one I am kill carbon love alloy tolerate titanium alloy is uh cheap it works really well the only thing I don’t like about it is it if you write it off it’s written off yes like well you can recycle the material presumably but in terms of uh once you crack the bike it can’t be repaired as far I’ve never known anyone I’ve never heard of anything about alloy bike repair it’s like once it’s cracked it gets really yeah it’s just gone but also I think with time your alloy bike will become softer but to crack it in the first place is quite hard it’s harder to to write off an alloy bike than it is to write off a carbon bike in my opinion yes but alloy bike will deteriorate with time how much uide it is going to depend on how quickly still it still works but like I say it’s for me it’s more of a at the moment it’s more of a thing of kill carbon because of I I understand it’s Innovative but in terms of what’s the end game yeah what did we do with carbon I think silk has found a way to take the raisin out and cut it down to make TR Sealand but it’s still like yeah that that’s that’s my standpoint on it it’s not a a thing of it’s unnecessary is like for example in cars you only see carbon in cars when they’re like uber expensive race cars at the top top end the stuff that we are driving every day are just you know made of alloy and steel and well Metals so like it seems unnecessary for us to be on carbon bikes apart from the fact we’re obsessed with weight can I just say as well on the topic of environment and unnecessary things because I know we will get it in the comments the electronic shifting obviously creates a Reliance on energy which is very un environmentally friendly so I’m just putting it out there because I know every time we talked about this before it’s unnecessary and it creates a Reliance on electric mechanical gear cables and AR housing that’s case in plastic will go through a lot more than that than through batteries I have in as a bike shop oh but there’s there is no way that those plastic outers have a larger environmental impact than batteries and the charging of those batteries every single time you need to so Gravel Road time trial kill time trial what’s the point in that that’s not fun you just suffer and you Hur no um definitely kill time trial uh tolerate road because it’s still enjoyable to do love gravel so if in a figurative environment whereby if I rode on the road there was never ever ever any issues with cars if it was as safe to ride on a road as it was to ride off-road in terms of accidents with v other vehicles and other Road users mine would be kill gravel love Road tolerate time trial and I and I know that sounds bunkers but it’s because Road riding is the best thing in the world it is unbelievably amazing it feels Wicked the bike FL I just I I’m obsessed with it I love it however I don’t do it as my primary riding because I’m always thinking about you enjoy the road because of a thrill of the speed and things like that well it’s not even it it isn’t even just about the The Thrill of the speed it’s just it just flows it’s just everything it just moves it flows you don’t have to Pedal continuously not use your brakes on a gravel bike and then you’ve got that fear of death the whole time and it’s it isn’t about fear of death it’s nothing to do with that yeah but time traling is just pain and suffering I love time traling I love it I’m actually considering getting a Time trialing by again no next up we’re going to go into some bike brands canondale Tre specialized I kill all three uh love canondale what uh I hate some of the marketing stuff they do I hate some of the uh terrible choices and bottom rackets and things they do but they make a beautiful bike and they do every now and then paint schemes and they just they’ve got some Classic Bikes back in the day Mari chiellini is red with the yellow the SE team 20 to 30 years ago canondale were yeah the perfect bike brand I have never thought of a specialized being a nicel looking bike until some of the modern stuff looks nice the more plain things they do um don’t ask me to name them but yeah so I’ll tolerate specialized for that um and I’ll kill Trek for the fact that they still do the crazy stuff that anelle does um and you mean like weird proprietary stuff I’m guessing proprietary stupid breakes in Mone that seat post nonsense of those on it’s just um yeah the massive branding on the side I I personally just don’t like it should you move on to the next one uh so these are all bike brands that Nick sells Sato tomasini time so Sato is an Italian custom carbon manufacturer they make them all in Italy tomasini is a custom well actually I think they both do off the shelf as well but you can do custom on both somini is a steel Italian bike manufacturer and time is a French carbon not custom carbon manufacturer that has a weave thing which is also like fesco which are a lot more expensive so there we go love tolerate kill go this this is like ask me which one of my children you want me to kill of um which one I love most you only have one child luckily for you guys oh luckily for me and lucky for you fin loop on this one I’m going to go love time because the Innovation on how they make their uh frame set so they do obviously the the how they weave the carbon um on a loom so yeah uh Innovation wise there’s nobody close to them so I’m going to absolutely love that tolerate Sato and I’m only saying tolerate Sato because they make unbelievable bikes but the carbon is not the same as times so that’s that’s the only reason and then I could never killed tomasini cuz tomasini is my favorite bike brand of all time but they’re making electric bike so kill the electric tomasini what yeah we we like ebikes I like ebikes but it’s just not what thomasin is about tomasini is about classic steel with Campa group say on it but as a brand I love tomasini the most is