Well looks like the majority of uk cycle lanes are useless now if it is okay to cause someone to fall into traffic. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/08/woman-who-caused-cyclist-to-fall-into-cars-path-has-manslaughter-conviction-quashed
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sunhypernovamir on
Even as a cycle commuter, it’s hard to dispute the defence “Hostile gesticulation is not a crime”.
This would come down to very nuanced details, I don’t know if they had video, I certainly have reasonable doubt.
I feel like the article and the title of the thread don’t match.
The cyclist wasn’t in a cycling lane (or on a road), and the article specifies that none of this would’ve occurred if the area had proper cycling infrastructure?
I hope that lady has night terrors over what she did though.
Topinio on
Quashed on the basis that no base offence of assault was proven, so manslaughter arising from that can’t stand.
But the fix is that they are not allowing the Crown Prosecution Service to take the case back to the Crown Court for a retrial in which they could try to first prove assault in order to prove manslaughter.
The say this is because they believe assault wouldn’t be proved, but aren’t prepared to test that.
Seems clear to me that the original judge and jury did feel that the base offence was clear, hence the resultant guilty verdict on the manslaughter charge.
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Even as a cycle commuter, it’s hard to dispute the defence “Hostile gesticulation is not a crime”.
This would come down to very nuanced details, I don’t know if they had video, I certainly have reasonable doubt.
[Here’s the link](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/08/woman-who-caused-cyclist-to-fall-into-cars-path-has-manslaughter-conviction-quashed)
I feel like the article and the title of the thread don’t match.
The cyclist wasn’t in a cycling lane (or on a road), and the article specifies that none of this would’ve occurred if the area had proper cycling infrastructure?
I hope that lady has night terrors over what she did though.
Quashed on the basis that no base offence of assault was proven, so manslaughter arising from that can’t stand.
But the fix is that they are not allowing the Crown Prosecution Service to take the case back to the Crown Court for a retrial in which they could try to first prove assault in order to prove manslaughter.
The say this is because they believe assault wouldn’t be proved, but aren’t prepared to test that.
Seems clear to me that the original judge and jury did feel that the base offence was clear, hence the resultant guilty verdict on the manslaughter charge.