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I just went Fe first out the window bro one of my cats is hanging out the window I’ve missed him bro I’ve literally just leapt over him landed on my feet done a roly poly I’ve tried to get up and my legs are done you was that bad they sent you all the way to whales yeah they call it like a emergency care home kind of thing they tried to Tracy beacer Me Bro you’ve been locked up or in the system from 13 years old to 20 years old you’ve spent more time inside than you spent outside you could lose arm your eyes gone is the phone still on you know what I’m saying are cats still getting served how much do you reckon CG made in to my [Music] brother what’s going on guys this video is sponsored by Louie some of you know him on Insta as loads one of the best Instagram names let me tell you that guys Lou has been building online businesses for the last 5 to 10 years and he spent the last 5 years coaching others onet to one on how to start businesses Lu’s got over 2,000 profitable testimonials 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from the boutique show just ask Louie for the business model let him do the explain and let him explain to you how he can help you I’ll see you soon what’s going on guys and welcome back to the Bluetick show the world’s fastest growing show I’m your host Mikey melan and opposite me today I got Fleer from 13 years old he was selling crack and heroin you heard it right 13 years old welcome to the show my brother what up what up what up my boy you’re good sit there with a smile on your face today couple years back you a working hey trust me my boy man but listen listen let’s dive straight into it man I want to dive straight into your life we got a view here we’ve already told him what it’s all about from 13 you was you was active on the roads talk to us about your upbringing your childhood let’s jump straight into it um uh basically uh yeah man I’m from wage Southeast London um originally born in Ireland I’m Irish for those who don’t know yeah I came over here when I was eight and yeah man pretty much I W say I had a normal I was about to cap bro I did not have a normal BR it was normal up until the age about eight come over here you know what I’m saying parents split up whatever uh at the age of like um I think it was 12 or 13 um some going on in school or whatever um I ended up getting put into care well me and my siblings we got put into care um but how things worked out everyone got released back after a period of time I’m the only one that got kept you feel me they kept you in care they kept me in care cuz at that period of time like 13 was like basically my introduction to the roles and obviously cuz I don’t there there was Whispers in the neighborhood you know what I’m saying they had an idea of what man was getting up to you feel me so they was like yo put me on a full care order yeah there was my legal Guardians you know what I’m saying my my my my parents had no say um how how did your mom and dad take that uh obviously my dad he wasn’t like he he’s out at somewhere you he’s out somewhere but my mar like I’ll be real I think she looked at it like a bless like a blessing kind of thing like cuz she could see the the route that man was heading down towards you feel me so she was looking at it like yo like it’s the like it’s not it’s not ideal for her CU obious she wants me to be with her but yo like if this is going to keep me if she thinks that yo they’re going to keep me on the straight and narrow then yeah she was all for it like she was just like yo just just do like basically whatever you need to do like so you can come home kind of take and that was at 133 yeah and that’s when you joined the road life yeah you could say that yeah how did you get introduced to obviously that World um it’s kind of like I don’t know it’s kind of a funny story it’s kind of like happen chance to be honest like obviously man come from wage if you know wage like bro like all my guest you know what I’m saying like CGM wage boys you know what I’m saying the history goes back you know what I’m saying do your research like man like bro like that’s a it’s crack city my boy you feel me that’s the best way I can put is crack city everyone’s eye am my [ __ ] you feel me so at that age like it was like it was it’s in the infrastructure you know what I mean like it’s like everyone’s out here everyone’s out here you feel me so it was only inevitable for like the young you know what I’m saying we look at the old like yo the man fly man Bugatti on the Block you know what I’m saying are making racks every day it’s like yo I’m trying to be like that so when I the opportunity came for for me to like get involved with that like I was just yeah straight away I was just like yeah man for that and obviously like at the age I was that it was like it was it wasn’t really normal it was kind of abnormal don’t get twisted like was half like dipping their toe into the roles but like as full as far as like yo like jumping straight in knee deep like yo man’s out there fully like yeah so what did your job from 13 years old what did it consist of your day in the life what was you really involved in trapping my boy like band all living bro like man lived in that bro bro listen for people who don’t understand Bando living tell us tell us really what it was about a day in the life of you what was what did your day consist of nor day like bro like if there’s like cats like customers going to be ringing the phone you know what I’m saying like man direct them to somewhere you know what I’m saying normal stuff man link them was you handling the drugs yourself at that age yeah my boy yeah I’m out here bro like in the bushes bro like camping in the bushes bro you feel me like outside rain Sun snow sleep whatever bro outside from 13 from 13 W going home me was you even was you even getting paid of course I was bro for real they were paying you good of course like that for 13y old you know what it is bro I’ve had guest I’ve had guests on here where they’ve said like and I was about to touch on that don’t get twisted like that come around like if you know you know type of thing like not everyone was getting the same Grace type of thing like I can’t even cap but yeah like if you’re a member like yeah like you’re good you feel me but cuz we’re like man man was man man’s early in the thing bro you feel me like man’s Foundation bro you feel me like man’s Foundation exactly my brother so obviously all man’s Brothers like around me they was all older than me you feel me so I kind of felt like I had a point to prove kind of thing you feel me so I was getting extra hard you feel me I’m doing things that I know C don’t want to be doing you feel me so at that age I didn’t realize that raw like when you reach a certain age when you’re older like this thing it has an effect on you it starts wearing on you but me I’m fresh in a thing I’m I’m hungry you feel me I wantan to I’m eager to impress you feel me like I want to do everything anything that you know what I’m saying you you tell me you go here yeah when do I need to be there yo this needs to go get you know what I’m saying this needs to get pattern watch who’s yeah you know what I’m saying that’s young age young age young age but obviously things changed for you you well no sorry things didn’t change for you you stuck at the game from the age of 13 talk us through your your year how old was you what year was it in in 13 uh what what 2011 yeah talk talk to us through the highlights of 2011 highlights of 2011 godamn apart from hitting the block and getting into care and what was care like for you let’s just touch on that a little bit quickly I want to understand what care was like obviously like from the outside looking in even me I had a p perception of what being and Kell was going to be like cuz everybody’s watched Tracy Beaker and all them there you know what I’m saying we all think like R like Dumping Ground you feel me like to some some aspects were like kind of like that cuz initially started out in foster care that’s when you live with like another family what would a family like um the first I can’t I had two families the first family I had they was calm they was straight Christian gos you know what I’m saying yeah like they went Church prayed everything like they had they tried to get man involved with that you feel me like then um this was this was when they moved me out of the hood then something happened between the family I think they had to go away or something I had to come back towards the hood to be with another family when I was with that family um they was more like lenient you feel me so when you’re young you take advantage of your freedom bro and that’s exactly what I did like I cled the leniency I was like yeah man I’m out of it man I’m gone it’s SC tell us tell us care care for you was right then let let’s just say care was okay no bro no let me not lie to you he was horrible bro I hated it bro I’m so sorry for sing I hated it bro I despised every minute of it bro like it’s not nice like obviously I’m talking about it now it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s easy to talk about in Hind because like it’s so many years ago but like then that that little period of time that I was going through like I can’t lie cuz I had so much Authority hanging over my head like making decisions on my life and where I live and who am I allowed to be around where I can go and all them things there like it was it had like a it had an effect on me bro I became an Angry Kid bro like I hated Authority like I was anti Authority anything like police judges prison gos social workers you name it bro that was anti-stem you feel me and what age did you first get nicked at 13 what did you get nicked for obviously uh I got nicked for a shank and some and some weed yeah what happened suspended sentence or you what did I get I think I got a uh a y That’s like a youth youth rehabilitation order that’s what they call wait is that wait why is that when you go I can’t remember if that’s when you go Joel or when they give you it’s like a yacht what was it like anyway what was it like uh that cuz that was the first time you really got in trouble with the authority right from the first time I got nicked bro that’s when the the social workers were like yo like this this this little you on some Badness we need to get him out of here bro that’s when car bro they sent me whales bro they sent me whales bro they had me living in the field bro he was that bad they sent you all the way to Wales yeah they call it like a emergency care home kind of thing like but it’s like I pretty much compare it to like mini gel you feel me because they got you out in the sticks bro you got to do abnc you got to do certain activities otherwise you get punished for it what kind of activi is they making you do they had a brother mountain climbing uh um rock climbing canoeing kayaking I’ve come there one minute one minute one minute you went there being a boy from the hood my brother I come from Southeast London bro you got me in Wales bro in the valley somewhere bro surrounded by horses and cows [ __ ] bro like you’re telling I’ve come there in night trackies and you I’m a celebrity get me out of it I’m from the hood get me out of it no cap No Cap that’s what it was like bro I swear down bro and obviously when you go there they tell you oh the maximum you can be here is three months after every month they’ll like yeah reevaluate you see if you can come back to wherever you’re from because they got kids from all over the country man but bre people from Harford Shire people from Wales Scotland you know what I’m saying any problems up there no you know I was Gucci like bro I mean in terms of like other people no staff members yeah cuz yeah thought I was an Angry Kid bro like I can’t I got nicked up there bro you got nicked up there yeah I got nicked in well while in prison basically you got nicked yeah you can say that yeah something like that so when they released you from was it did do you have a release date or is it just your day yeah you get a release date bro imagine at 13 bro they’re telling you yo this is your time that you can go home yeah I basically ended up staying the full three months yeah they was like not having it bro so you clearly proper nauy up there yeah man so when you left what was it like when you went did they take you back to the hood I wish bro like no bro they was like all right cool you’ve done your time here but we still need to like watch over you kind of thing you’re coming back closer to the hood but you’re not going to the hood you’re going about they took me where it called crawly like a little tan outside of the hood that’s where I caught my first uh custodial sentence at 13 years old bro yeah bro this is all in one year so from me within the space of just from me getting into care hitting the roads getting nicked get like you know what I’m saying get sent to Wells coming back to the hood this is all within the space of one year so 2011 was a m year for you year for me bro so yeah cool um yeah uh got nicked for some for a robbery charge some from 13 you’re robbing as well my brother they had me outside of the hood bro you got to understand like I’ve just come from like like man’s environment like man’s used to getting money bro every day bro like man live a certain type of way so in my head I’m still trying to chase that bro you feel me like I’m still trying to chase that so when they got me living in and flipping crawly like out of the hood the first thing I done when I got there was like they’re telling me yo you can’t have a phone you can’t contact nobody that no phone nothing no if you do has to be approved by them you feel me yeah you can’t use social media no internet if you want to call somebody we have to call them and give you the phone all of that yeah bro that many treat like is gel cuz this is how their excuse was like a we’re trying to protect Safeguard you all that but yeah first thing I done was I went to I went to a flipping um a phone box rang the man him like yo listen I’m alive like I’m alive like yo you been I’m like yo listen they snatched me up bro they had me in wh I’m back now but yeah I couldn’t go to the hood really truly I could have just like that you know what I’m saying like really when I think about en I should have just bounced but I know I was just trying to just trying to be calm for a little bit just so see if I could do it the right way you feel me but clearly I ended up yeah getting caught up went um yeah man went jail for the first time what was he like in jail um I’ll be honest bro on the way there when they’re telling me yo you’re getting jail you know what it’s like bro like obviously you might not know what it’s SL but you just first time you asking bad question like yo what’s it going to be like how many people’s there obviously like I went to Medway that’s a secure unit that’s like a like a how can I like an introduction to joil yeah like Roman no not even it’s like a jail for like kids bro okay okay okay just imagine that but yeah I’m they’re telling me yeah it’s like a it’s a secure unit G to there not that many people there I’m getting excited bro I can’t lie to you I’m thinking yo this going to be lit you know what I’m saying like yo this man them over there like yo we they’re telling me yo there’s females there as well cuz our think we had females yeah there’s two security female this so you was thinking yeah boy I’m thinking bro like this a Jo I got I can’t my got there that bro was lit it was lit we got cracking a few times but yo it was lit man well those was girls there and everything yeah bro bro yeah them girls yeah yeah yeah active active active yeah you had the best time in your life my brother hey I can’t I met some real brothers in there as well some brothers I still call my friends to this day bro you feel for real some proper boys over there good people man free my brothers man free cycle man free Yes Man okay so inel you had a good time we can’t even touch on that and say you had a bad time there yeah yeah that was initially how long was you in for uh how long keep me there like about three months on remand yeah man three months on come out got a road sentence yeah man hit the roads then they put me in another care home put me another Care Home you was just back and forth from care home yeah my brother I can’t lie they had me had they they tried to Tracy beacer me bro they tried to Tracy be me bro I can’t lie I can’t lie to you but yeah um what happened after that yeah going to K home I done some Madness in a k home like just pett no we need to know this know this this is the stuff that our viewers like this bro they come on this channel where where all the guests are I done a Madness but anyway let’s not talk n we want to hear the madness is you done this video is sponsored by krook law an award-winning immigration law firm their talented 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yeah when I come out obviously they put me in the K I’m just angry bro I just forgetting the minute they’ve taken me out the hood my main goal my main priority is to get back to the hood so now they’ve got me here I think I’m even on tag yeah yeah they got me on tagna so what address I think I’m in Kent Margate oh oh they took you to the beach yeah they took me to the beach here this though you see how life works out bro they had me in marget yeah on tag I couldn’t go nowhere I couldn’t go to the hood I couldn’t nothing basically I got into an argument one of the staff I smashed up the place you know what I’m saying got a bit angry they’ve rung feds I’ve got nicked then they’re like oh my social workers like about to get built I’m about to get built my social workers rang the police station yo like they need to chat to me so they brought the phone to me in the cell the feds yeah I’m chatting to my social worker she like yo I’ll be real they don’t want to have you back like we’ve checked like the local area um there’s no Care Homes within like the South basically that accept you you feel me you’re too bad I like all walk like what’s man doing like they’re like yo like got two options they’re like Birmingham or Liverpool me that that’s never been outside of flipping London they’re telling me Birmingham or Liverpool I’m like wait there must be a mistake like who must have to work something I’m at they’re like no man Birmingham Liverpool those are your only options obviously I’m trying to work it out I’m thinking bro I need to get out this police cell number one but I can’t go nowhere because I don’t have nowhere to live they’re like yo we’ve got the things set up basically like depending on your decision you feel me I’m thinking what’s closest you feel me like what’s closest I can get away from so I’m calculating all this in my brain you feel me so I’m like cool you know what we’re get Burman I was like cool anyway long story short gone Birmingham now I’m living in a k home over there I’ve hated it as soon as I landed funny accents just out Hood I’m just like this is shout my man you know I got love for you like man trust me I got son but yeah this is old 12 my boy I ain’t never been Burman in my life bro I thinking you what’s going on here I’m thinking bro need get back to the hood anyway long story short I’m there for a bit now I’m on tag there now as well I’ve ended up catching a case up there um when I got over there like I just needed something to keep myself occupied yeah yeah man just ended up falling back into what man’s used to man know you know what I’m saying man got involved with it you know what I’m saying then certain things I’ve ended up getting nicked and they slapped me on tag put me on tag so obviously now I can’t leave like I’m bound to B you feel me I have to become a Birmingham you feel me like so while I’m there I’m trying to integrate with the with the with the Fabrics what’s going on May to one two bre everything’s Cal but I’m getting towards the end of my tag time now like I’m thinking yeah like I need to get out of here how am I going to how am I going to escape so towards the end of my tag time obviously remember they told I told you they said I can’t come to the hood yeah obviously um towards the end of my tag time they’re like oh obviously you’ve been behaving whil you’ve been up here now what we’re going to basically start drip feeding you basically into the slowly slowly into slowly slowly so like cool we’re going to take you on visits you can go there um and flipping stay for a bit comeback no nothing No No Nonsense all right cool done that a few times then it got to a point I like yo this is long I can’t keep going back to BR you know what I’m saying I’m about to come off tag this is all long so the last time they took me they brought me to the hood with the man them and that I just ended up lodging them you feel me they end up get at to birming and ringing off my phone I’ve end up getting reported missing all of that all that stuff that was another thing I was uh known as a Misa missing person so that’s like that was like a thing that was on my file like okay if I get stopped by Jake it’s going to come up missar so as soon as they see me they have to take me or hold me until somebody from the care home has to come get so you’re basically done fed stop you you got you got am and it used to happen bro like happen bro I’ll be in the bandle the band will get raided obviously all the man they’re grown you feel me I’m the young little like they’re doing name checks name checks name checks yeah cool you can go you can go you can go you you’re missing you’re coming back to the station with us you feel me so they will take me away from the man them I’m just there why is it always me I’m just the only one they have me in the station with the Jake will tell me like yo yeah yeah waiting for your for your um Care Home people to come get you you feel me so they’ll come all the way from Birmingham yeah come get me from from thingy wherever I got pick you up again pick me up take me to Birmingham you I used to do they kick me up from Birmingham um station take me germ I’ll go there have a shower eat sleep and then back the next morning back to the hood jump on the train B back to the hood straight away back to the hood bro I’m and I’m hitting the block bro yeah you’re not going to get me again until I get nicked yeah that was my mentality yeah you a really really really outside I got a phone call from one of my BRS in Braum one day like yo like Lex like yo where are you like where you dealing with I’m like what do you mean he goes bro like there’s missing posters of you like all over town like what they put pictures of you of the town bro I’m like what do you mean bro he goes bro goes bro there’re missing posters with your with your face saying yo call this number if you see this you you know what I’m saying I’ve gone on Google armed and dangerous bro I’ve gone on Google Now typed in my name be articles talking about missing missing missing if you see this you if you see this kid call him Lo scene at this location I’m thinking no they got they got man looking crazy crazy like talking about yo run away from this C home known to be in here so every I used to get nicked in it was hot they like report that the feds will tell the Care on people so on the missing thing all these little old te spots that I’ve got nicked in it’s down on my thing like yo if you see him in for example Norwich let please know if you see him in Ken if you see him in I switch like bro was mad Most Wanted 14y old in the world bro bro on I felt like K my felt like it but at the age bro like why did you want to go back to the hood so bad bro didn’t you just think yourself you know what let me just chill here ride the wave and just try to be sensible did that not crush your mind once not once bro not once not even for a millisecond you just wanted to be out there in the hood not even in the hood my bro cuz wasn’t only in the hood that’s about to lead on to you now bro like around this time period this is when man um basically discovered OT kind of thing you feel me cuz like the man then was like bro like we need to step out there you feel me so we again CCH for those you don’t know CCH that’s County LS whatever you want to call it um first place I went was IP switch bro uh built start of the phone IP switch Yeah man ding numbers excuse me uh doing numbers what do you mean by doing numbers how much were you making you’re not going to believe me but bro like when I went there like Co first day man’s gone there made a bag like off the rip black the first few hours crack bro crack bro crack and heroin bro but yeah off the rip a bag that’s a good indication any spot that man go to man make a bag the first night that’s an indication of yeah man’s going to stay here if man make less than a rack I’m out of here if you want me man’s freedom is not when you’re when you’re selling this crack to these people yeah they must be like zombies bro bro you’ll be surprised bro I’ve had doctors that’s crackers bro I’ve had doctors cuz they everyone used to say say back in the day cocaine was a businessman drug yeah yeah crack is a is a poor man’s thingy crack is Poor Man’s Coke literally a poor man’s Coke but crack turns you into people say it’s crackhead yeah and that is when you see someone who loses everything for crack you must have experienced from such a run run you must have experienced from such a young age seeing these people’s lives change you must have seen someone come from being a normal person to being a zombie you experienced that whole time yeah yeah yeah I’ve seen that I’ve seen man I’ve seen women like yo like they come like normal girl that you see walking down the street bro give it a year Max bro done unrecognizable bro and bro did that on a on a genuine level maybe now when you look back at it things are a bit different but did that never make you think this is mad or was you just involved um I’ll be honest bro I was that you that if M was in a in a in a trap or whatever like depending on the size or whatever rooms or whatever bro there’s is a bit the C my used to our thing was different we never used to go out and serve we used to let them in so they come knock on the door we let them in we serve them let them keep it pushing you feel me barricade the door you feel me so what what that used to do was like he used to cuz man was inviting they would like want to come chill you so more exactly the more chill the more exactly you get the thing so they would have a bit where they just chill and smoke like I’ll be there with them obviously not smoking but chilling I’m chatting to them like cuz I’m young I’m inquisitive like I’m thinking bro like how do you end up here like so i’ be having conversations like hours long like trying to get to know their lives bro like what was you doing like how did you had man tell man y their family got them money their Mar their pops their brother their sister you feel me now next you know the whole family smokes bro and it’s been going on it’s been going on the generation for family for Generations bro guys have you been thinking of move to Dubai I’ve partnered up with Cranbrook legal to make your experience so much easier literally I got the main man from Cranbrook legal right now to tell you how easy it is guys it’s as simple as picking up the phone giving us a call and letting us get on with the business what literally one phone call literally one phone call a few documents and we’re there and then I just get up fly to Dubai and I ain’t got to pay tax no more yeah but you can come and see us we’ll take you out for a meal show you the buy and then it’s all up to you after that bro where do I sign now you you you see millionaires who lose it all most definitely I’ve seen millionaires that still that functioning crackheads bro function I’ve seen millionaires bro with better like live better than man bro what CRA that man was shoting man the person us as the uh shutters yeah I’ve seen I’ve but crackheads that live better than us no cap full out crackhead full out cracked bro smoking every day bro hundreds of pounds every day bro man drives a range over bro lives in a mansion but how he function everyone’s the way I the way I see I feel like everyone’s tolerance is difference like is different like cuz some people they smoke a p and they go do L you know what I’m saying they’re finished they’re done they can’t talk they’re parel they you know what I’m saying they all of them things some people they smoke a pip and it’s like bro they Mellows them out mows them out or some of them they do both you know what I’m saying one balances the other you know what I’m saying bro each of their own my boy but yeah man that’s just like what I’ve seen like bro like it’s crazy and it’s like you see in in man’s Hood in willage like cuz it’s like in the hood I think it’s the same for every Hood but like bro certain these crackers you seen them grow up they’ve seen you grow up bro and that now you’re serving them bro it’s weird bro it’s crazy you see any violence yeah of course bro this comes hand in hand with bro what kind of violence you see bro you want me to get a graphic tell us bro see man get shift bro that yeah I don’t even want to talk to you crazy but yeah you know like way like it gets like that bro like it really gets like you ever scared me yeah me honestly bro from listen when when you’re 14 years old you got people walking around with kniv stabbing people around you surely you see bro I was one of them mutes you have to look out for I’ll be real bro for real I was one of them mutes like bro and it’s not not something that I’m proud of like but bro like when you’re doing this thing bro when you go to put it this way man was man’s going to cities and towns man’s never been to before bro like you don’t know what you’re going to meet when you get there there might be other there that’s like they had the thing pattern now you got a regulate cuz our thing was like bro anywhere we go we’re taking over bro so you know what that comes with bro did you have an KN on you all the time well 24s bro really for real you wouldn’t leave the house without a knife I’ll be real man don’t man never I’ll be real man man didn’t really used to like step with it everywhere cuz our mentality was like or M was like bro if I get stopped right now I’m going jail for a shank bro there’s no point I ain’t got UPS like back to the point where it’s like I are looking for me or whatever but bro you just had it just in case you needed to man see a cat snatcher in the town and it’s gets yeah like yeah it could get that bro it could get that but I’ll be real that there there’s been incidents where like the table slipped on me bro yeah bro I What’s happen oh God damn I about in [ __ ] bro I’ve had to jump out of a window before bro second floor window bro W what happened it was in the hood in it like if you know you know kind of thing if I told the story the people that probably done it they’re probably going to recognize and be like yeah that was us but yeah till this day I don’t even know it was but you feel me it is what it is like bro man’s in the hood bro man’s jugging bro same man’s been doing like Man’s whole life bro but the way we had regulated in man’s Hood like I’m don’t even want to sound like man’s gassing up the thing that we was was governed you feel me we was patented like one other thing yeah no one stepping at kind of thing you feel me that’s just how it was like every Hood’s different you feel me our Hood was regulated you know what I’m saying like hierarchy thing so we was Gucci you feel me like man didn’t fear nothing man didn’t Wonder Man didn’t think about next Youth Man didn’t think about n bro so when this happened he was like it was a bit weird it was like yo like he’s brave enough to be trying to be doing all this like but yeah anyway long story short man’s in a bando one day I’m with me and my bre I’m there lotioning to a girl chatting chatting chatting chatting her but obviously me ham chill like don’t I’m not lotioning but I’m on point bro you feel me I’m on point so anytime the door Rings obviously we got a barricade on the door you feel me anytime the door Rings check the Spy hole let them through the barricade whatever whatever cool um um this time it’s like 4:00 in the morning bro you’re not expecting anyone to come through the front door at 4:00 in the morning I am I am I am I am no you’re not expecting beef I mean yeah of course yeah I’m chilling bro we’re Ling bro I’m saying we’re chilling like 4:00 a.m. in the morning if anything I’m more thinking about Jake bro cuz like 5 600 a.m. in the morning that’s their sweet exactly so try catch [ __ ] lacking but I’m thinking about Jake so cool I’ve heard him knock on the door G check the SP hole um it’s a it’s a smoker you feel me you let them in there but where man was it’s like a block of flats like a little mini one so we was at the top so when I’m bust the door um man can like you can literally just go down the stairs and you’ll be at the front door there’s no there’s nothing restricting the front door to our doors you feel me so as let the cat in I’m hearing like running up the step like up the steps I’m thinking but obviously I can’t see no faces yet so me being I’m thinking bro it’s F trying to find out who I’m thinking it’s Jake bro trying to run in put the barricade on cuz I’m thinking bro that sounds boy like you feel me look for the Spy hole I’m just seeing bellies bro I’m seeing ballies on bellies on B bro you feel me I’m thinking oh my God I’m in a yard full of cats bro you feel me like they not doing much they cool bro like I’m my Bri he’s snoozing you feel me i v him up like yo like like that time you feel me these times I tell him yo go check the window see how many he’s out there bro he’s looked at the window he goes bro I can’t lie it’s Peak I said what he goes bro there’s like 10 man out there bro like that’s not including the that’s here front about 20 man yeah I’m saying I’m thinking oh my days I’m thinking yo like it could be Peak you feel me man’s got one shank between us you feel me one smelly little kitchen thing you feel me next thing I know from I’ve remember I’ve seen some from when I’ve shut the door put the barricade on my bra going to check the window I’m looking for power I’m hearing yo bust the door feel me bust the door for what bro busting yo BST the door man’s going to yeah air the thing out you feel me I’m thinking bro Flex are going to get corn behind his door you feel me I’m thinking no so cool now anyway they they start licking off the door you feel me licking off the door licking it licking it Li licking it like so I’m trying to hold the thing like yo like you com you not coming in I’m not dying here today bro I’m not dying here today bro so man’s holding the door the door’s like it’s coming off the hinges now you feel me so I’ve had to like make a calculation like bro how many more kicks they how many more ticks you know what I’m saying can this door hold because like bro they’re going to get in eventually bro the thing’s off the hinges it’s coming separating from the wall you feel me cats are just getting mad like yo I’m holding the door I’m I’m next thing I I’m seeing come through the letter box what knives yeah bro like four or five of them coming for I’m saying no later later later later later so cool I’ve a countdown in my head I’m seeing the things about to cave in I said yo I told the cat listen Open the window open that flipping the the the living room window said make sure it’s clear I said to myself can’t a free flex go don’t even think bro go I said to myself I had one lick one second one two three I didn’t even wait I just pushed the door cut I didn’t even bro I don’t even know God just said this to me I just went fre first out the window bro bro imagine as I’m about to jump out the window one of my cats is hanging out the window he’s hanging out don’t ask me what he was doing chippy you’re a legend till this day bro this brother’s hanging off the window I’m saying I feel like he just got paranoid you feel me like he smoked a pipe he’s thinking y they’re coming for him he’s hanging out the window I’m like bro I’ve missed him bro I’ve literally just leapt over him landed on my feet a rly poly cuz like where we where man’s jumped out to it’s like a little garden little I’ve landed on the thing I’ve tried to get up and my legs are done my legs are done I’ve got up I’ve dropped straight away so what I’ve had to do cuz what I’m thinking I’m thinking yo they’re going to come around I’m waiting for them to come around and finish the job you feel me so I’m just there like it’s dark you feel me it’s 4:00 a.m. in the morning I’ve had to drag myself like to like a corner dark corner like No Cap bro I have to drag myself to a dark corner and just w basically wait wait to get Chef bro you feel me so I’m just there waiting now I’m thinking yo where’s my brid my Bri a even jump the window yet he a even jumped out the window yet so I’m thinking oh my days he’s Cass bro you feel me anyway um I’m hearing Sirens now I’m thinking y what’s going on like how’s how’s how’s man how man hear bro this is just happened how’s the how’s the feds coming already yeah I’m thinking bro did they call feds I’m thinking yo who’s called Jake so cool I’m thinking no I’m not Nick what I’ve done I’ve managed to just drag myself to a fence climb over the fence and I’ve waited there now until basically like things have died down a little bit you feel me fed’s turn up yeah fed’s turn up like feds up all over the yard bro all over the yard like my re’s in the yard feds have grabbed him you feel me my re end up staying in the yard he’s like in the kitchen somewhere they didn’t even go in the kitchen they run in the yard just come looking you know what I’m saying what were they looking for drugs money what God knows bro God knows bro he knows bro but yeah man so what you just wait till it cool off and wait till it cooled off I’ve come back around to the front of the yard I’m seeing bad Jakes I’ve seen my bre like with the Jakes I just pretend like I don’t know kept it but now me I’m angry though I’m I’m thinking like who the [ __ ] has tried to do this you just make me jump out of the window you mad so it’s 4:00 a.m. in the morning I run to man’s local cab station you feel me so I’m in the cab now I’m trying to find out yo I’m going around to everywhere anyone that could possibly think who it is I’m going there you feel me yeah so obviously it’s dead out it’s a ghost town so I’m thinking yo this is weird bro this is weird anyway long story short didn’t end up finding out who it was but you didn’t no didn’t find out but I got an idea man but see you think think about me see Karma yeah man it works in crazy ways bro what did the boy say Obviously his old as is it what were they will say in the next morning man them they’re like yo like who the man think it could be like but yeah man man just charge to the game bro charge it bro didn’t find out who it was but man’s got man had a very good idea of who it was you feel me but yeah man is what it is man this [ __ ] happens bro you know what I’m saying man’s done a few things in my life you know what I’m saying the tables turn on that yeah tables have to turns on yeah man for sure and alhamdulillah bro nothing got touched bro you feel me m was on crutches for like a week though I have to go hospital cuz my leg bro when I jumped out the window I landed on my on my my like I landed feet first and done a Roy py but the impact of me Landing shock yeah bro my foot my legs SWR up bro to like the side of a tree trunk bro I couldn’t walk on it I could not walk but man still hitting the block in my crutches though best believe that bro trust me when did you go jail bro uh well basically just before that I’d um I’d went to first time I went to youth offenders that’s like young joil basically young joil basically yeah so yeah first time I went there was it’s kind of a it’s a funny story not even funny it’s kind of sad to be honest when I think about it bro it’s kind of sad story but like the first time I went to jail for um uh when I was 15 it wasn’t actually my fault bro I’ll be real um someone I was jugging with like they done some funky like we got raided they done some funky basically like through the pack at man kind of thing you feel me no cap bro man playing volleyball with a thing bro but yeah we both ended up getting nicked I’ve ended up playing guilty yeah cuz I’m just I’m young I’m just L time yeah I’m just thinking yo this I just want to get out of here as soon as possible but when I’m in the interview room my solicitors come forth with like some information like yo like like y Cod might be like you know what I’m saying like talking kind of thing I’m like lie bro lie bro OB see like my man brought the paperwork like you showed me the thing in black and white bro like yo my man said he seen the drugs thow from your pocket you feel me in black and white you feel me so me as a 15y old like this you are older than man you feel me so I’m looking at ra you’re a scumbag like I actually had love for you like you’re a scumbag like trying to De like that but anyway I plead it guilty you feel me off the rip yeah yeah straight away cool I’ve gone jail now I’ve started my little bird or whatever but little do I know obviously he’s he’s gone home he didn’t go Jo he went home so little I know like he’s gone out he’s hit the road he’s saying all this and what not basically making it look like it’s my fault I’m in jail you feel me cuz I a I’ve I’ve gone jail I ain’t even chatting like that you feel me I’m just trying to do my time but when I rang man like yo I catch up and like my man spreading like saying like yo like it was your kind of fult I’m thinking n man you’re tweaking n man did you tell him we snitched bro I come out job with the paperwork bro I come at a job how long did you do in there I about 8 months but so when you’re involved in that life yeah what is snitching is a big thing most definitely everyone says like boom don’t snitch keep your mouth shut snitches get snitches like that’s the mot on the roads yeah do you end up trusting anyone or is your do you just not trust anyone now I’ll be honest bro at that time period i my my heart was so open my heart was open like trusted everyone trusted everyone I loved everyone like will tell you like yo at that time like bro none of my breons could do no wrong in my eyes they was yeah they could do no wrong wrong what about now now I feel like that comes with life bro like life experiences especially in this on the roads bro like there’s so many so many so many different ways you can have learning experiences bro anything you do like some you could get done dirty someone does you wrong like somebody tries to run like you know what I’m saying bear learn better and obviously now man’s a season vetting this thing like bro like my skin is like it’s it’s fit to [ __ ] you know all the tricks in the book exactly bro spot that bro so it’s that I don’t I don’t off the rip just trust somebody off the rip for no reason you feel me because yeah man man’s been burn bro feel me so when you got out of prison what was it like then did you go bro you can’t keep going straight back to it bro come a jail bro I come at a jail wait let me let me not lie to you I come at 16 bro yeah and um did I come out on tag no no no no tag car done my whole thing I didn’t get my HDC come out bro M hit the block bro you bro you got understand bro like hitting the block bro like it’s it’s not it’s not just obviously there place where things get done but it’s not just like a hit like selling drugs thing bro for us we’re young youths bro that’s that’s our Hub that’s our home that’s why my link man’s Breen that’s why my link G you know what I’m saying we smoke weed there we eat you know what I’m saying we together we get get money you know what I’m saying we do whatever we want We’re Young we are having our way bro you feel me so it’s like when you’re away from that it’s like bro I want to get back to that as much as possible did you not realize at this point I’ve been Joe three times like it’s the same thing every time yes I know but that’s what I’m saying it’s so easy to say that now because when you’re older looking at you’re thinking brother are you dumb or something but like when like bro I would have to you have to CH like some of my brethren like to also get their perspective because from so you it’s like a community set you’re going back to all your Mand you’re going back to all your boys you’re going to chill it’s not even you’re going back to be a criminal you’re going to see yeah like really and truly like yeah if man think about it cuz obviously man knows that yeah man’s going to be doing whatever but that’s just part of the thing bro that we don’t even look at it like that bro that’s just normal stuff like yeah cool cat comes yeah serve them grab the peas cut back to business you know what I’m saying like it’s normal stuff I don’t look at like oh yeah we’re trapping and bro that’s man’s life bro that’s how man live you feel me so yeah man come out hit the block yeah my was Gucci I’ve ended up going jail for um about six months later but some didn’t even get for um I got recalled so I’ve had about a month left on my license you got recall but they scummed me though check this they’ve scummed me now um they breached me I was when they released me they put me in a hostel uh in lewisham they’re like oh yeah you’ve got a living sleep in this address like that’s standard license condition but me being a young I’m like yo that bro I don’t care I’m outside you feel me like so cool um yeah like these L they was like in liaison with my youth offending worker so anytime I used to like not come to the yard and sleep there stay snitch on man you feel me so it got to a certain point where like too many times it happened so they just breached me sent me court but check this you see when you go court for like breach or something something you got to get reports or whatever from your youth offending and basically people that can just help mitigate your your case your case basically you feel me so your youth Fender worker has to give like a report for you to be like your your conduct on on on the roads and however your whatever your your progress in life and whatever and basically it was all around everybody was giving me positive reviews everybody said they basically recommended do not send this man to jail that’s basically what they said do not send this young man to prison but for some reason that day the judges they was not having it for real I had about 60 days on my 60 something no 50 something days on my license and it was about 6 weeks so like yeah man go do that bro go do that well I kind of I kind of it was a blessing and a curse in the scares because when I when I got sentenced man’s in the court CS man’s man’s yach workers come down to me he goes yo I’ll be real I’m so sorry I’m like why you saying sorry for he goes like bro that this should not have this should not be happening like he goes I can’t for the life of me think of what reason why they trying to send you prison they’re like like you go the only thing I can put down to is racism go that’s the only my yach workers saying this to me I’m like I will started feeling like you know what it’s calm man cuz I’m thinking like bro feels bad it feels bad I’m like y you know what it’s calm man guc be out in a couple of weeks man it’s calm bro whatever he goes no man that this is horrible this is Injustice he’s getting mad you know what I’m saying I’m just like no when it’s K withi anyway they sent me cook and wood now cook and wood uh um yeah man cook mood was a was a funny one like this little period was a funny one I can’t lie to you like I’ve ended up meeting uh got cracking a few times but let me tell you a funny story so cool now man’s G cook wood remember I told you obviously I didn’t tell you but I need explain deeply but when man’s jugging and doing whatever doing across all over the country and that man’s got Utes from everywhere you feel me every block every hood they’re coming to hitman’s blocks you feel me like no shade or no hood but you L know you feel me like at one stage there’s someone from every Hood that’s been that’s come through our system put it that way so man man’s got man man’s man man’s man’s tired in with a lot of people you feel me so man’s bre on the at time they’re from Tottenham you feel me I’ve ended up meeting some um some you um Donald my Donald free Donald man he’s doing a last sentence right now what’s he inside her Madness bro Madness bro like yeah man just unfortunate events bro it’s put it out way yeah but yeah man free him but yeah I’ve ended up meeting him and we just locked in straight away like you know them people you just meet straight off the back chemistry yeah so that’s my guy and I so me and him we’re getting back and forth now you know what I’m saying anything that go on you know what I’m saying yeah it’s me and you against the world you feel me type of thing so um uh so yeah we’ve all um we’ve got moved to Wings now but where we’ve got moved to see young offenders Joe it’s a bit different to ad like certain man like certain man they try people feel that they got points to prove you feel me yeah so when man at cooking wood at the time like was um was like how can I put it um certain people had things in certain ways put it that way and certain and most people wasn’t trying to go against that MH yeah against the what’s the word status quo you feel me so yeah so me and Donald we’ve come in the thing like yo call it this bro I don’t know what you are playing that man’s not part of that you feel me the man’s man’s own man’s man’s own man you feel me obviously like like that so uh anyway long story short my Breen um yeah Donald he’s ended up getting into like a little pass Passover someone but these times I’ve been behind my door so cool this like early in the morning I’m hearing alarm bells g these go the go the gos are just about in middle of opening people’s doors for like exercise or whatever so it’s like 8:00 in the morning they’ve come to my door the door’s open the alarm Bell’s gone off so my my he’s like cut instead of like locking my door he’s just left my door open and gone to like where the alarm is but the alarm’s on my wing you feel me and obviously if you know cook wood Wings they’re just like one long little thingy it’s not like Landings like an open Hall yeah like an open Hall kind of thing you feel me you got cells and either side so at the end of The Landing my B’s getting it cracking but me I’m I’ve just like World Cup kind of thing I’m in my boxes bro you feel me so I’ve stuck my head out like yo obviously when L goes you want to see he’s getting cracking you feel me I stuck my head I’ve seen my bre getting cracked I’m like yo he mad I’m like put my clothes on I’m like no no time I’ve just run down the landing in my boxes bro the first person I see I you know when you power up bro my in Dragon Ball Z ize someone up bro I said yeah man powered up the thing my brosi man just gave him the you feel me boom we’re getting it cracking we’re getting it cracking my bre’s getting it cracking with two man you feel me boom boom boom bo boom anyway long story short things um everyone’s got split up and that everyone got put but we’re on the same Wing you feel me you’re going to see each other exactly so they just put everyone in their cells and lock them behind their cells you feel me if you know you fenders y people like talking out the doors you feel me so long story short my brethren and who he’s got a cracking with they end up chatting to each other behind the door me I don’t do the yeah I don’t do all that I just listen and laugh you feel me so I’m hearing that little back and forth it’s funny you feel me OB though we just got a cracking with you but we can still chat you feel me so then man Bing joke I think the youth that um my bre got cracking with he had his shoe in his cell don’t ask me how he had his shoe in his H mama like bro and they had the same creps funny they had the same creps mama like bro like taking a piss like bro like your CPS are looking beat up of that looking mad anyway long story short man’s chatting I’ve heard my man say like where he’s from can my was like yo where you actually from come I don’t know these you where you from where you from got cracking with you top them like I’ve heard Tottenham I’m saying huh I’ve gone to my D like you said from Tottenham I said brother I said you’re not from Tottenham fam he goes brother you mad goes brother man’s from Tottenham I said bro who do you know fam my man’s SC he’s not trying to tell me who he knows you feel me I’m like bro do you know my cuz I know who my who we [ __ ] with on the RO and I know you I’m saying if you don’t know him yeah you’re know one you feel me I said like do you know my man he goes yeah he goes that’s my brother fam that’s my that’s my family you feel me I’m like brother allow it he goes bro I’ve got him on my pin he goes I’ll call him right now I said brother I call him from I tell him yo ask him about flicks bro tell him say my name to him you feel me then come back to your door and then we’ll see your tone of voice after bro he goes yeah say nothing my when made the phone call he come out to the door his tone of voice changed he goes yeah say nothing and you see from there you bre you feel me till this day bro that’s my brother oh for real this day you gave him the and and no it wasn’t even him it was Breen it was his bre it was Breen yeah but yeah till this day bro that’s my Breen that’s my brother you feel me right they say all friendships start from beef all of the best friendships start with a bit of drama there I can’t lie I have to agree with that bro I have to agree with that always unless it’s like a childhood J you’ve been with from school or something different yeah once you grow older in it yeah once you grow older like throughout life bro even me when I’ve had a good friend people like oh how’ you become I was like bro I hated him like even some of my best friends and I so weird but like how you’ve known him years how you not but in school I hated this I crazy that’s crazy but that’s what I’m saying you see like in them environments like some people they’re like yo that’s so head fast and like yo [ __ ] this but we was like bro like we live we live on the same Wing it’s not that deep like bro like [ __ ] it Whatever It Is What It Is bro and then after that bro like to the point like yo we became so close that even when he hit the roads and I’ve hit the roads like obviously his people with man already you already [ __ ] with each other you just I just don’t know him cuz he’s been in jail you feel me so like he’s been he’s like me he’s been Jail from early from when he was young you feel me so he’s come out he’s end up getting back to jaob but man with his peoples you know what I’m saying then I feel like um later on down the line this is like few years down the line like we’ve ended up like linking up but we’ve always like stayed in contact but we’ve ended up like linking up like we’ve actually going to go do things together now you feel me like we’ve going you’re going to do work together exactly there you go so like yeah man it’s just crazy like to think that ra our friendship started from yeah let me ask you a question yeah how old are you now uh 26 when did you last go prison 2017 how old was you 19 so you’ve had a sevene clean run alhamdulillah I mean I was in jail for three years so yeah four years right now I’m going on the four years so when did you get out 2020 you got a 20 so you’ve had a four year clean run now yeah yeah yeah how’s it feel bro I’ll be honest with you I still pinch myself sometimes because realistically what you’re telling me now from from your years from 13 basically if we’re going to class 13 if we’re going to class the uh Care Homes as prison because they are bro you’re not you’re not free are you realistically you’ve been locked up or in the system system from 13 years old to 20 years old mhm you’ve spent more time inside then you spent outside mhm how have you kept free for the last four years cuz at the end of the day yeah we can sit here and we can talk about crime gangsters Shooters everything all day long yeah people love to hear that for sure but being clean for four years being straight for four years yeah it must be so easy for you to get back into the game and my brother like I’ve had my relapses bro I’ll be real like it’s not easy like man’s been at nearly four years alhamdulillah but I’ll be lying if I said that this was an easy transition bro you know what I’m saying and it’s only as man’s getting older and the years go by every year that man stays free inshallah like man learns bro like this thing is it’s a crazy transition bro like just to go from just living a certain way and just to go to like living normal and the best way the best answer I can give you is to like bro just God bro like I swear down like cuz could have gone left so many times bro so you’re obviously Muslim yeah when did you become Muslim or was you born Muslim my life you was Bor Muslim yeah so what how did it feel when you you said at the start the K home tried to make you go church and stuff yeah that was very like contrasting with my heart bro like like it was get but obviously man’s 13 bro there’s nothing I can do the the my foster care my whole their whole family so the mom um daughter son cousin they’re all involved in the church you feel me like the brother the the son plays the drums the daughter sings in the choir the mom half helps you know what I’m saying you’re walking into the Church alhamdulillah bro I’m not even saying that I’m trying to move to G bro the church I’m trying to move to G bro bro man’s in the little Sunday school Sunday service yeah yeah you know you know listen listen listen you’re different so listen when you obviously things went different when you when you went to proper jail when you was 19 yeah yeah yeah what was that like what you what you go prison for bro uh same thing bro I’ve been going jail same thing my whole life apart from the first time I went for robbery but but I I heard obviously you get three three strikes is it or something like that where yeah me I can’t Li I should have got done you see my last bird I should have got fito I should have got double digits but cuz that’s what they say they said you get three chances and then it’s like boom you’re getting a big sentence I should have got the big bird not this not the last one the one before that I should have got the big bird but oh I should even probably say it this but one thing that’s probably been helping me is the that I’ve been through in my life bro like going through the system if you get bagged again you’re done I’m done I’m finished you’re looking at 10 years plus yeah most so even if it’s just for something small if you anything to do with so if you get bagged for shoting again you’re looking at 10 years yeah serious yeah anything to do with shoting drugs or anything that classy forget about class A Class A I’m done forget about me I’m gone you feel me yeah trust me bro like it’s and in a way I see it as a I see it as a blessing and Aur because a lot of people that I know like a lot of man didn’t hit the roles until older years you know what I’m saying so when the stuff that they’re going through now is the stuff that I’ve been through like 10 years ago feel me I’ve already done it you feel me so it’s like I’ve gone through the getting nicked and coming out and getting Joe and coming out and getting nicked within the first week bro you feel me like man’s gone jail I’ve come out I’ve gone jail for grub I’ve come out bro yeah I’ve been out 6 days my brother I’ve gone CCH bro I’ve got nicked on that same block you feel me my brother I thought my whole world was crashing down but alhamdulillah they gave me bail so how are you they give you bail so how you how you coping now how are you actually staying legit without going back to the hood cuz you bro we from what we’re hearing the viewers will agree as well you had an addiction to the hood yeah you was obsessed with going back and getting involved again why Haven you gone back genuine question why have you not gone back what’s changed you cuz something’s obviously ticked in your head and said you know what bro I’m not going back there what has changed um the main thing I say was changed like my mentality cuz like why did it change did someone help you I no there’s only something that I could have done myself because like back then you could you know what I’m saying there’s nothing no one could tell me there’s nothing God could have come down to me that you know what I’m saying and told me yo stop trapping and I probably would have hit the block the next day bro you feel me but yeah you’re finished you was finished you were finished done bro I’m telling you like but you know what is this is one I say yeah this is why I love having guests on a show like you yeah because as much as truthfully you was done you you was written off people would look at you and think he’s bro the CTS probably bro I’m telling you it got to a point yeah where if you’re in the hood and you ask about Flex everyone knew they’re like yes but they’re like oh where is he is he in jail still like that was a running theme in man’s hood for like Years bro like cuz people cuz you get I cut from year eight bro I dropped out of school so from year eight until God knows when people like they don’t know where I am I’m missing I’m gone you know what I’m saying all they hearing is stories he’s doing this he’s doing that he’s in jail he’s gone here he’s gone that he got Nick so it’s like I’m just like a I’m like a uh Hood folklore well I I got a question you know what cuz of it takes me back to school yeah people are scared of you other school kids were scared I mean I wouldn’t say cuz bro I’m not going to sit here and be like yo M was the baddest no no I’m not saying you’re bad but as in bro like when you hear someone even if you just hear someone goes prison at 13 14 15 yeah I oh yeah yeah yeah don’t get like people used to look me like I was a mad man yeah so when you when youd walk down the street and you see other school kids normal school kids in year eight and nine and look at you and they know who you are of course from that area they know yo that’s that that’s that boy went prison was selling drugs did you not care did you just think yeah I’m the Man bro I’ll be real in the beginning I used to feel away because people used to look at me and feel like yo you’re done out that’s how people used to chat to me like you’re finished I got a tattoo on my back says CGM when I got that tattoo what’s CGM crack game Masters that’s what we used to yeah was our Squad you feel me at the time but yeah I got a tto on my back when I was 15 bro in the band bro by a cat bro a cat C is that what your your gang was called CGM yeah my boy question then this is a good this is a good question chat to me how much do you reckon CGM made in total my brother I I I I I’ll be embarrassed to say bro how much roughly if you had to put a figure on it how many millions definitely Millions now yeah my brother man like I’m embar I’ll be embarrassed to say bro like but put it this way we had a batti on the Block in 2011 bro and whoo whoa whoa let’s rewind a little se you had a Bugatti first and only to have done it till this day you feel me not me but yeah M yeah we had a buetti on yeah we had a buetti on our block yeah go to your history bro you know what I’m saying that [ __ ] was there them things aren’t cheap that’s so your boys were up yeah we was out man if you if you in your Fe on the streets you know if you hit W you know what we’re on we know what we’re about you know what I’m saying they got to a point where I’d go jail like people used to come up to me and be like bro you annoying bro I’m like why why are we annoying they like bro every spot the man go to a buck a wo you I can’t they you could you could not go but why why why were you l so good at it because obviously what you L were doing was obviously what you L were doing was obviously working right yeah most definitely but why what made your recipe so good um number one I’ll be like I would have to say the the that was on top of man most definitely like we had some smart people like man some smart like are not D bro like did you have a system in place yeah we had a system that’s the best way to explain it was setting away like The Show Must Go On that’s the motto The Show Must Go On so regardless of anything that goes down bro you could someone could lose a leg on the Block bro you know what I’m saying you could lose a arm your eyes gone is the phone still on you know what I’m saying are cat’s still getting served you know what I’m saying like yeah like that bro someone needs to be on the Block making sure that cats are getting served bro you feel me yeah you want to go link your G you want to go see your ma you want to go bade your skin but someone needs to be on the Block you feel me and if there’s no one on the Block you’re done you feel me so that mentality it built it built and it created like trapping machines bro that’s the best way I can explain it like trapping machines and it became like a friendly competition between each of us bro you feel me definitely of course listen seeing who can sell the most make the most he want to be the biggest Trapper bro he could go to a block and make it do the most PE how about that was you the biggest at one point I was one of for real yeah most I was one of but there like I’ve gone to build other blocks that’s done crazy numbers like for example my bra he’s gone to like he had uh a certain spot on you know what I’m saying pattern you know what I’m saying bro that block was there about like 14 15 quid a day bro a day that’s thousands bro like not hundreds like no no 15 bags a day yeah my bro a day Christmas Christmas 20 14 or 15 yeah that spot down about 15 six about maybe about 16 quid you know what I’m saying then the spot that I built the one next door to it that was in about 10 to 12 these are crazy numbers they could probably never be replicated again in this day and AG cuz just the way like the way feds Operate Now RA bro I didn’t think he made that much yeah it was crazy but we that was the Bro not like without being too incriminating about like bro we had five blocks game bro you know what I’m saying we had a block in the hood we had like two other blocks that not too far from the hood and we had about two other blocks that was yeah a bit further out you feel me and each block was their numbers bro you feel me and but but it it like I said it takes a system to keep that in order one of the you see the block that I was um that I bu I told you I kept getting nicked in yeah like that block was the craziest block like definitely make your day 15 grand a day but it’s in terms of like Jake bro like you like every day yeah you get like you’re getting run up on like two three times a day they’re coming in they’re smashing Windows dragging man out the window bro yeah like if you survive there yeah PS off to you bro cuz I know that go there first night shift you don’t see them again that much yeah my bro like it was it’s on it’s on it’s like and when you get there you feel it like you feel like the buzz is different yeah bro it’s different bro it’s not like the hood bro you got chilling in the hood like over here you got to be on point like yeah like to the point like yo you’re unwrapping that pack bro you better you better pray to God that by the time time you open this pack and close it that a Fed hasn’t run in your face bro you feel me like that bro but yeah all right my bro look listen you’ve been trapping from 13 Yeah Yeah from 13 to what 19 you’re trapping uh about that let’s just say there or there about yeah yeah I want you to tell us one story out of all of them that stands out to you remember when I told you earlier like yo Karma’s like a real thing yeah yeah I’ll be honest yet throughout man’s life Man’s whole career like um call it a career you know yeah bro like it’s not a joke bro that was man’s job bro you dumb like that was man’s career bro like trust me don’t ever try to downplay that trust me on on your CV Trapp go trust me I know some real that yo they take that to heart bro you know what I’m saying but yeah uh I told you about Karma bro like obviously I don’t I never wish I don’t wish bad on no one that’s just not how my heart is set you feel me but I’ve clocked that there’s a pattern of things that that that that’s that occur like through man’s life like people that do me wrong or try to do me dirty things don’t usually end up being good for them take that however you want you feel me so remember I told you earlier about the you that threw the pack up man out I up yes yeah so cool ended up coming out now me for a long time I was angry you feel me for a long time I was angry cuz I didn’t see him for years then it got to a point where we ended up linking we bumped each other again but in jail you feel me okay so man’s confronted him like yo like cuz I’ve just hared all this thing really truly I should have just crashed out right there and then you feel me but our brother you know when our brother’s like doing all the on the Holy Quran on my mother’s laughing all of that all of that coping pleas and that like I just felt a bit weird y I was like you know what bro like can’t really smoking bro yeah bro I’m like brother from the point you’re doing all of this and I’ve and I’ve seen it black and white like bro like you’re do like you know what it’s been yeah you know what yeah man whatever bro anyway long story short man come out bro you end up dying bro like yeah you got shot like died bro like not me but yo like Dead’s Gone Gone rest in peace to the dead but yo like that was that was like a big thing I was like yo that’s crazy you know that’s crazy bro that’s nuts bro like this life is nuts bro when I when I when I heard that I’m like BR that’s actually mad bro like and I start I started thinking raw like is that your Cal for like what you done for man like I’m thinking I’m start thinking all sorts of like cuz I I got to the point where I was like you know what I have forgive you I forgive you it is what it is bro like whatever you snitched on man cool whatever but cuz my man CU obviously I started making music My Man became a fan of me bro like always like biging up my music throwing up my sh you know what I’m saying shying it out like hitting me up but you know like you know when you know a brother you know what you done and I know what you done I just never used to just chat him you feel I used to just air man out but yeah man he used to try to show love and that but then yeah one day man heard he died how old did he how old was he when he passed 30 30 something 31 yeah my bro look slowly to start wrapping this podcast up what I want to do is I want to hear the last time you went jail and then and then obviously what you’ve been doing now you’re out but let’s throw it straight back what happened last time you went prison oh yeah like I said last time I went j i what 19 yeah that’s what 07 yeah County LS again this time that was what Cambridge so it’s all out there anyway but yeah Cambridge I’ve ended up um I’ve come out of jail like from my last sentence and obviously yeah we got to get to work you feel me I’ve come out most a lot of my BRS have gone jail in this time period so I’ve come out and there’s not really that many men on the road there’s a few men you feel me and one of my people like his family like he’s coming he’s [ __ ] with us now you feel me so his name is Twigs you feel me that’s my brother free Twigs you feel me I love him to death so he’s come around us he’s like basically like brought like he’s brought something to the table he’s brought like a you feel me like yo my bre knows about this let’s go let’s go there you feel me gave you a drop yeah gave us a drop like yo cuz we at the time we was brainstorming like yo what spot can we go to we’re trying to think about B spots like we’re looking on a map PL where can we go you feel me so my brother’s like you know what let’s go let’s go try here so anyway long story short I’ve end up going there and man ended up basically just regulating the whole thing like basically just turning it into like old school days like we’re doing like five cod a day there now now you feel me so I’m there I’ve hugged the block my face is getting bait you feel me long story short I’ve ended up getting nicked and go John jail but in that time period remember my BR I told you that we got cracking now he’s ended up linking he’s coming back around full circle you feel me so he’s with man on the program now like so you know what I’m saying like now we getting money together it was just crazy but yeah and now even him that hit the bre the person that he got a cracking with my BR Donald like they’re all cool you feel me like everyone’s sweet you feel me but yeah well I think money makes everyone happy yeah and the minute people startop making it you start seeing people’s True Colors people start moving funky bro and I’ve seen it cuz look at a time period remember we were making five racks we’re doing good you feel me we’re doing all right bro in the hood we’re driving around in the May back and that we Gucci you feel me like but [ __ ] evil ey is a big is a real thing bro you feel me evil ey can come within as well come from within so yeah some basically some you that was we was [ __ ] with they end up doing some snaky they ended up doing a Das with you feel me with some things and yeah like it was cuz it was inh house man didn’t really know how to deal with it like man thinking like like the man Brothers like yo but that bro like are violating you feel me like so anyway long story short in that time period uh back to back losses we was taking back to back losses put it that way just every day every day taking back to back losses and it was like it was a something something wasn’t adding up bro so in that midst of that happening I’ve ended up getting joil so I’ve gone jail that’s just the whole thing is just yeah the foundation is Rocky you was you was a mean man running the show I don’t want to say that but but yeah basically me and my you feel me so I’ve ended up getting jail and so yeah [ __ ] are moving a bit weird but before man’s gone jail these men have done the dash I’m in jail now man in my business I’m ready to ride my bird you feel me I get a phone call one day yeah I got good news for you what you mean sweet goes yeah that man in your jail you know like who go them man bro like what was yeah they in your jail I’m how the do you know one of my B that’s in jail he goes yeah man he got the drop you me I’m like this time I was in Peter BR so Peter BR Jo if you don’t know about H&B Peter bro it’s one of the only Jo that I’ve ever been to that you can have free floow access so you can go from One Wing to another float around if you’re patterned you feel meet so go from One Wing to another I’m like cool you know what I’m going to go induction Wing tomorrow let me go let me go g check the thing you feel me let me go see there it’s cool morning come my FL let’s go see what the man on cool man’s gone there so you’re just fully allowed to wake up roll out let’s go if you’re good obviously yeah of course so yeah man done that bro man used to go jumo with other [ __ ] from other Wings bro you feel me like literally no cap but yeah man’s gone down there to induction lo and behold cuz one of my Cod that man’s got nicked with he’s they’ve ended up putting him on [ __ ] watch what’s that [ __ ] watch is like when they think you’ve got something plugged oh for real hold you if Jake think you got something plugged they’ll hold you you feel me so my bra they put him they when theyve I guess it makes sense yeah that’s what we call it [ __ ] they call it observation or something it’s [ __ ] watch man you feel me like you don’t you’re not leaving until you [ __ ] basically and are they watching you [ __ ] you’re 20 bro your a fed’s at your door bro how you handcuffed bro when you told them yeah I’m ready to [ __ ] they like all right cool we’re going to take you to the thing you [ __ ] and then you got some thing that cleans the thing sucks it out and brings it out yeah did he have something plugged no he didn’t luckily you feel me so this time he had nothing you feel me so they ended up he’s end up just doing the [ __ ] straight away they’ve letting him go but they’ve reminded him to a jail that’s next door so he’s come to induction like a month later feel me so he’s basically on the wing with them man but these man are not coming out their themselves bro they’re not coming out the themselves they know what time it is you feel me so they’re not coming out their CES so I’m like bro you need to do what you can to get them out their CES yeah yeah do your thing do your thing bro you feel me I said I’m coming it every day bro you need to get them out of sell so anyway long story short a week’s gone past now I think they’re feeling more bit more comfortable you feel me but they’re still not coming out but my BR you know what he’s doing he’s playing the smart thing like he’s going to like playing the middle man like the yeah mediator so he’s like he’s playing to them like yo what cool but you man on to you to you feel me but obviously he knows what time it is so yeah I’ve gone on the wing one day now with my Breen no but he he didn’t even make it on the wing so I’m only I’m the only one that’s cut through so they the guards will sto my Breen from coming so I’m here now I got no Shanks I got nothing no weapons I’m like bro I need to get these hes bro so I’ve gone to the cell like two doors down I’ve said to my Breen get that door open bro please he goes bro just watch just be patient he goes I’m going to go to them and chat to them you see when you hear when you hear clicking that’s the signal you feel me so come chilling chilling chilling there this I’m in two ml two doors down yeah I got the door open I’m listening that listening that I’m thinking he’s not going to click he’s not going to get them to open the door bro like one minute later I’m here click click click click click I run out the cell run to the cell I’ve just run to the C open the door shut the thing locked it yeah your nightmare yeah trust me yeah done my thing you feel me done my thing bro what did you do to him bro open his face up bro oh for real open his face up with a bin with a bin with a Bin My [ __ ] I didn’t have no weapons bro you feel me I just smoked man see the first thing metal being yeah yeah yeah crash man yeah crash man yeah and it’s but the reason I say that is because like one month ago this is all within the space of one month bro so you man done the snaky thing you you got and check this you’ve got nicked with the graub you’ve got nicked with that same [ __ ] so they got nicked with your stuff that they robbed you they basically robed man for it’s c is it there you go and you ended up in my jail in the jail that I’m already in come on bro stupid come on bro like God was I was like God why are you doing this like why you making me do this stuff thank you like what like obviously you’re not going to get nothing back but bro like yeah but yeah it’s so but the maddest thing is though like saying that after that men have come out and men have changed their lives bro like they become good yeah like man are men are bringing it to me like yo man’s are come out mans apologize to me like yo like I’m I’m so sorry like I was tweaking like like I’ve changed my life now I’m good you know what I’m saying like that type of timing like but I’m like yeah man have you changed your life most definitely I’m in I’m in the I’m in the process bro but as far as like yo like what I was getting active with before that yeah man that’s just I’m so far from that yeah man I’m so far M from that because when I go to jail I said yo bro I can’t keep doing this like you said it’s my fourth strike bro comes to a point where bro enough is enough realistically they say it’s Insanity in it they say the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different kept hearing that I kept hearing that and I was like bro I’m not insane bro like you know what I’m saying I’m not insane I just keep making a dumb mistake I’m not insan a dumb I’m like bro God why me you know every time I get nicked I’m like why me bro why am I the only one that keeps get a Nick but like bro like God was trying to tell me something you feel you know me but yeah the fourth strike I’m like yo you’re lucky that you didn’t get birded bro like you need to change you need to do something I like you’re music so talk to us a little bit about music then so cool remember I told you about Twigs my Breen yeah yeah before I go before I go jail he introduced me to the studio so he was doing music a little bit but M just going to studio and I’m joking around things so I’ve gone jail in that midst of like me starting to do the music go do the music things like you feel me so I’m in there thinking scratching my head now like [ __ ] bro like what am I going to do so I’m like bro you have to make music bro so I made a mission every day bro I’m writing you feel me I need to make I need to write a bar I need to write a song or verse or something bro so that when I come out I’m going to have a catalog you feel me good to go good to go and I did I had a catalog I had a catalog U uh a notepad filled for each year I was in jail you feel me so for 07 08 09 2020 I had a notepad filled of music you feel me so I was just like yeah man just perfecting my craft bro perfect my craft and then I made the decision like yo man I’m not I’m not hitting the rolles when I come out I’ve come out I’ve even come out I’ve told them man them yo I’m not doing nothing bro [ __ ] are looking at me like huh you was the main man you was the man bro like you was telling us you was doing like Flex y something change like what’s wrong with you like but it like they had even they understood like you know what I’m saying many you yeah you of all people all right Co we hear it my man no you all right cool we hear it you’ve been you know what I’m say saying we hear it so I was like yeah man I was like yeah man how’s music going for you it’s going it’s going it’s going good you know well I can’t even complain bro obviously it’s not man’s nowhere near where man want to be by any stretch of the imagination but uh coming into this game I’ve learned that um it’s a patience thing man it’s a slow and steady wins the race bro you know what I’m saying M could obviously my journey has not been one of them ones where it’s like yo man just droping just blow straight away you know what I’m that fortunate but I feel like in this thing longevity is um definitely the key like and in order to um have longevity in this thing where you just got to be consistent and give good you got good people around you yeah yeah you got people helping you with the music yeah here and there yeah not really like yo like helping me like as far as like advice and support and you know what I’m saying like but most yeah man on myself but man still learning [ __ ] you feel me I’ll be real I not but you learn stuff every day you can only improve every day like stuff I’ve been doing even down to the podcast you saw you comeing here straight I’m switching up cameras like even I know it’s something different but down to you you’re you’re learning new things you’re learning how to how to push music this way how to do it that way what to do here listen it’s it’s a life life you can’t stop learning especially when it’s like something that’s new that man just getting involved in it’s like yeah man it’s going to take me a little while to just like wet my feet but yeah man once I get there yeah you’re going to they’re going to know and obviously that yeah man big up you for bringing me on here you know I’m saying you didn’t have to do that bro man my thing the way I like this the way I do my podcast is I love people to tell their story but I love them to give advice to the younger Generations who are out there like you you’ve I don’t even think we need to give advice to the younger generation because people can see your story they can just from the podcast in itself from 13 years old you’ve been doing something and you can now look back and say yo what the [ __ ] was I doing H most definitely listen as much as you’ve done it you’ve lived that life if it was good you’d still be doing it I look at people now and they they that my bre’s are cuz not it’s not just like it’s not just me like just cuz I tried to change my life don’t mean everyone else’s you feel me like and some of my bre’s like my some of my bre that they haven’t reached that point yet some of them like they’ve relapsed some of them ended up back in jail you know what I’m saying and it’s sad it’s unfortunate bro this [ __ ] hurts my heart bro like you feel me like seeing my Breen keep going through the same [ __ ] like you know what I’m saying I’m not and I’m I’m I’m not too far move from that you feel me I’ve just been lucky cuz it was only New Year’s Day I was in the [ __ ] police station bro you feel me this new year just gone yeah this New Year’s just gone why just driving the fences you feel me get your asses guys get your asses but yeah man yeah man just minor minor things but it’s like yo like this [ __ ] hurts my heart bro it’s like especially when you seen you know you know [ __ ] stories bro you feel me like it’s it’s the thing the difference is no one knows your story this is Untold story most defin exactly so that’s what man come on here to to let it be known and it’s like I don’t even come on here to be like to try to pain myself like to be a certain way or try glorify or you know what I’m saying like big up anything that man’s talked about man’s literally just telling you about man’s life bro literally like and the thing is as well at the end of the day regarding this yeah you’ve told us probably about 10% of your life there you go like we’ll be honest with the viewers this is part this is take two we did try and do the film this before but obviously we only have an hour to push it in obviously I know this one’s gone over but guys if you do want to hear more stuff more stories if you want him to come on for a part two and tell the story in depth if you want to hear a longer version of it or anything like that that’s what the comments are for leave comments tell us you want to see Flex let them know man let us know listen if you enjoy this podcast make sure you hit the like button because it lets me as a host know cool you enjoyed that podcast with flex let me phone up Flex getting back again yo bro you’re coming on for part two because BR at the end of the day we have stories on here that you told last time you ain’t told this time and vice versa where you got plenty of stuff to tell like even down to you going through care there’s a whole story behind that like that that alone your childhood is a podcast in itself like we got so much more of your life to tell where the viewers haven’t even had 10% of it I’ll be real with you we’ve told a minimal but it’s always better like that because we give them a little teaser if they want more they let us for more man definitely man they let them know and we get we listen little tester for y’all man it’s a little test for yall get back my brother is there anything else you want to tell the viewers um when uh I think he was like oh my little message to the youth or something tell us listen I want you to give a message to the youth look into this camera right here give a message to the youth hey I ain’t no preacher but yo listen coming from somebody that’s been through and someone that’s done it I would just say like bro if you’re young right now and you’re trying to think about yo hitting the roads trying to go OT or whatever trying to figure out a way to you know what I’m saying trying to make some change you feel me we’ve all been young you know what I’m saying nobody wants to be Dusty nobody wants to be the one that gets you know what I’m saying gets teased or whatever but just Channel your brains to like try to do something positive because it’s easy it’s so easy to just go get some drugs and just sell them bro you know what I’m saying it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to do it you know what I’m saying but what you’re going to learn with coming with that just like I just told you like there like there’s many many like downsides that come with that bro you’re going to lose years of your life your Brethren’s probably going to snake you like you’re going to not going to trust no one your girl probably leav you when you go jail you know what I’m saying Your family could become that relationship becom strange like really and truly like apart from the the financial gain from me like bro you’re losing a lot you’re losing more than you’re gaining bro because when you go jail you can’t spend the money bro you spend 15 a week on canteen and it’s that real you feel me like the postal orders they stop coming that thick you feel me like trust me man it gets long bro like that’s like you when you’re when you’re when like when man’s young we don’t look at life the way we look at life when we’re older when you’re young it’s like you live for the moment you know what I’m saying it is what it is like you know what I’m saying but if man switch my mentality to from that to like yo man need to plan for the future try to do something that’s going to benefit man’s future rather than go sell some drugs that yeah the [ __ ] you know what I’m saying this [ __ ] could end at any moment like bro like trust me there’s a million ways to make a million pounds trust me you feel me and I’m still in the process of learning myself like I’m not a fully completed project you feel me I’m still in the process but yeah man I’ll just say bro like if you got other avenues you got other people that’s around you that’s trying to you know what I’m saying give you some game like take it in man trust me like not everyone’s out there chatting W you feel me some people know what they’re talking about some people actually out there trying to help you you feel me and don’t be like me and just be hardheaded like yo [ __ ] everyone [ __ ] nobody want talking you know what I’m saying like don’t be like that man trust me like just take people in like CU you you never know that that bit of game that some might give you might change your life bro like No Cap 100% my brother well look my brother I’ll be real with you it’s been a pleasure having you on my show no pleasure for having me back man appreciate it man I reckon the viewers are going to want a part two so I look forward to seeing you again guys if you enjoyed this podcast make sure you like comment and subscribe and we’ll see you on the next one down and

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  1. Sad story theses guys are grommed and dont even know it the olders grommed them differently and hes got nothings to show for it but a fucked up record and mindset stay in school kids and listen to your parents ❤ or find a family member with love in there hart a try and do better badness is easy but carrys heavy punishment on your mind and soul keep a clean hart and always try and do good

  2. How come London "gangstas" talk this funny. How can this way of talking and mannerism be considered "hard". To me it extremely comical. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  3. Sounds like he was a county lines victim being posted here & there to make money for the main dealers. Bugatti & maybach’s on the block but can’t put a figure on his earnings. What does he have to show for all his mega drug deals having 5 blocks on the go making double figures/thousands daily?

  4. It’s unreal how many boys who grew up in the uk in the 90s early 2000s who have walked this path shout out all my yoi tourers BANG YOUR FXKIN DOORS 💯💯💯

  5. This guy really wants to be known as a shotta 😂 even in jail he wouldn't stop chatting.
    Dese times he's never been successful in it. Forgot to add that part.

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