Dans le 4e épisode de Franc Ouest Saison 2 : NATURE + ELLES, Patrick Lac et son équipe vont à la rencontre d’Alexandra Pronovost à Retallack. Anthropologue de formation, Alexandra Pronovost travaille maintenant au sein de l’organisme Autonomous Sinixt à Retallack prononcé Piq kiʔláwnaʔ en langue Sinixt. Celle qui est aussi matelot, DJ et artiste de burlesque est alliée des causes environnementales et premières nations depuis longtemps. Elle nous explique la situation unique et compliquée dans laquelle se trouve le peuple Sinixt au Canada et de leurs efforts pour la préservation de leur langue, culture et de l’écosystème fragile de Retallack.
On la rencontre devant la murale aux couleurs vives et chatoyantes qui borde la route enneigée de ce village fantôme qui date de l’époque minière. Elle nous emmène en Splitboard dans une nature sauvage où des animaux en voie d’extinction comme le Grizzli et le carcajou sont encore présents. Les peaux d’ascension bien fixées, on est déjà à plus de 1000 mètres d’élévation et on s’élance dans la neige fraîche de cet endroit peu connu de la Colombie-Britannique.
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Franc Ouest est une co-production de l’AFKO et de WebOuest. Financé par le gouvernement du Canada et en partenariat avec Réseau-Femmes Colombie-Britannique. Cet épisode est commandité par Nelson Kootenay Lake Tourism.
Réalisation et animation : Patrick Lac
Réalisation, direction photo et montage vidéo : Jackie Atkins
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Prise de son, mixage et médias sociaux : Véronique Trudel
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Musique : The Great Novel, Projet Hertz, Spiros Beat, Patrick Lac, John Shakespear, Peter Reed, Xavier Deschènes-Philion et Charles Robert
I also have to minimize my impact because when I go to the back country I also leave all these animals in their territory, I am not superior to them, my name is Patrick Lac and you listen to franc ouest season 2 nature l to hear
My entire conversation with Alexandra pronovo graduate in anthropology allied with environmental causes and first nations as well as passionate about horror track in réalac in British Columbia go to webwest.ca or the podcast platform of your
Choice we are on the 31a a highway although it doesn’t seem too much there are just two lanes then it’s winter so it’s very very very quiet it’s located between castloow and new denver it’s a highway which was built during the mining era here at the
Moment we are at an altitude of 1000 m so that it is it is considered as a pass then it is also considered as a connectivity corridor for all the FAE and the flora the big crisly the
Caribou the wolverines here it’s like a kind of area which is not zoned park but which connects enormous wild entities so the grzel pass through here the carc toou to go from a park to the other
Hello I’m Patrick lac and this is Fran wouest season 2 on [Music] she I’m traveling across Western Canada to meet French-speaking women passionate about outdoor [Music] episode 4 Alexandra pronovo splitbard retalac it’s always the fun just or then to walk around I realize as I get older I would say
I don’t like it more but I like I really like the ascent before I just did the descent or a lot of descent in a ski resort then there since I’m just backcountry I don’t know there’s something really pleasant about developing a relationship with the mountain to
Notice all the little things that the snow does also you’re more in T with the elements then you go for a descent in your day then it’s all going to be great but you spend 3 He to go up between trained poologist Alexandra pronovo now works within
The autonomous organization Syx in ritalac the one who is also matthel DJ and burlesque artist is allied environmental causes and first nations for a long time she explains to us the unique and complicated situation in which the SX people find themselves in Canada and their efforts to preserve their language culture and the
Fragile ecosystem of ritalac which is pronounced pikelana in SX language we meet it in front of the mural in bright and shimmering colors which line the snowy road of this ghost village which dates from the mining era the ascent pots well fixed we are already at more than
1000 m of elevation and we are slender in the fresh snow of this little-known place in British Columbia I would like to point out that today we are gathered in the territory of Grand chisli blan le pikilana which is part of the ancestral and unceded territory of the
Sik people the theme h I want to say that I am very grateful to be able to be here and then to be able to enjoy what nature offers us then I also ask for protection then we are going to
Make a small offering of tobacco later I like to do that at the beginning of season by offering tobacco the spirits of the mountain are happy then it offers us a little protection for our season then what studies in anthropology allow you to understand the situation of
Indigenous peoples here the CICs than other people might not understand it is still a situation which is very complicated I would say that how does it influence me today is that it was the beginning of my journey in decolonization I have had courses on the
Natives and the Canadian state I started to learn about the residential schools the six SCOP all the treaties signed in the but which were never respected you know so there you are like awakened you learn all that pu there I go through you know like White guilt feeling guilty for being
White then after that you once you go through that because it’s important to go through that because that if you stay in this kind of feeling of guilt you are not useful to the cause you that led me to lots of experiences in Quebec that I worked with various indigenous communities
Also I had the chance to meeting elders who had been born in the woods in a tepee or in a Glou because I also had the chance to work with the Inuit, it is certain that these experiences in person are where you learn the more when you listen then you hear
People’s real stories everything what have you learned in your theory or in your books there that Hits oh yes how do you define yourself kind of woman who touches a lot of things but who is not specialized in anything although I get bored if I do something for too long too much on the same subject I do a little DJing I do a little burlesque I am still patent
But I am also still all the same very smart and sporty but you don’t know much about anything especially but as I like to be interested in a lot of subjects also you know I’m starting to be more and more knowledgeable in the subjects of the environment then the conservation of
Gzly because I’m in this environment here I was a sailor for 5 years so I also have that I have like a lot of ropes to my yeah I sailed listen if it’s it’s a
Funny part of my life but like then from 30 years old to 31 years old I participated in the show it was an adventure documentary reality TV the great crossing ah then what then the description was still vague and it was we are looking for people who like adventure and history
Is that for me I have my baccalaureate in anthropology I am interested in the history of course adventure yes because I am an adventurous person who likes to take risks and I am capable to change my life is to really make big changes of direction like coming to live
In British Columbia I was taken I was very surprised then another change of direction I was in the Arctic at that time I was working with the inoues in a school I was doing a replacement contract I was contacted by the show in the F they sent us to France then the
Concept of the show was that we crossed the Atlantic in the conditions of our ancestors wow so the prerequisites for participation were that it was necessary to have a fairly long seniority genetically speaking in my family tree so they made us our
Family tree so I discovered that my two ancestors basically I have a wife then a man who went through roughly the same time in 1660 made me like visit the church where my great great great great great great grandmother had been baptized in France in France yeah in
The end of La Rochelle so it I’m on a large sailboat in TR m called the Ptin Castle but in the show he called it the Hope they took away all our material goods all our 21st century stuff they gave us a safe in the trunk there was like the
Costume of the time and we made them cross it wow we were filmed through that there were people who fell for it there were people who really didn’t fall for it it wasn’t CIT easy because we
Worked the bodies of work with the sailors so at least we weren’t put in the hold like our ancestors there were little anachronisms that no one else would perhaps have noticed but yeah that’s it but like a bit taken from the story another example is that he gave us
The dishes to cook because we had to cook our own m then I think he had bought that in a reluctant then the pan in the bottom yeah our ancestors were p what went through there if there was a melting pot it kept clean it would be like the
Main kitchen instrument every day the one that provided us was covered in gray worm it doesn’t really taste like eating there our first soup was like black yeah like it was nice but in fact our ancestors were poor as they were their children
He looked at it very beautiful very clean then this filming didn’t last 5 years anyway no no it lasted it was 55 days in [ __ ] we can listen to it yeah it was online for a long time they
Replayed it wow wow that’s still on it was on Radio Canada in the background that it played because for me that’s what I did is that I wasted my life while we were 10 Colom if men then four women then the most of them hated the experience but I just like it so
Much I love it discovering new culture subculture my anthropologist side there I discover the subculture of tall ship sailors it’s a great international world win know who are passionate about keeping alive customs and also practices that date from before the machines because that ship there in fact in everyday life
It is a training ship they are in the process of making a trip around of the world then they go to lots of small î that you can just access by sailboat almost then there is still on board a woodworker a
Carpenter who does all the repairs there is still a saddle maker so all the sails on this sail are sewn by hand I learned to CRE des voils I learned to make wood the C are in
Chambers n we learned everything that there I have 55 days of sea time we held the working horns so there I am still advanced you can to become a sailor in Quebec you can go to the IMQ the Institut
Maritime du Québec to go to school then after you do internships you can accumulate my time but here it is as I am like went through the back door because of this show but it was during my time which was recognized by Transport Canada and then the following summer there were
The big sailing meetings in 2017 in Quebec City ah yes then I went by car to go see the gang because there were still a lot of the same sailors who were still on board
Then I arrived there then everyone told me but there you you are you are a sailor in a boat I just went for the weekend finally I got picked up by a captain who liked me on an American schooner I went on board with them as he calls it the TRAINY so you
Are housed and fed but you work for the boat but you are not paid but you travel you accumulate sea time so there I managed to arrange AC a boyfriend who was on a bike trip from Montreal
To Quebec brought back my car I went to buy the things that I needed I got on board then I didn’t come back or my week I started to do lots of part in the East New Bronzwick Nova Scotia for the festival and after that I changed boats I came back on the
Ship with which I crossed the ATL I went to lunen in novacosse school of 3 MB plus we are passing through the [Music] bermr foretiller bauex the cape we need TR mat to go work in the î C in the south PAF you raised your hand
Yeah I sailed in the south of the Pacific in the neck islands then of Samoura a place I have never then I mean the contact with the people of the place when you arrive by ship is really different than when you are like a tourist who is in a hotel who
Arrived by plane you know yeah culture in that was super interesting Moana there the film yeah B that’s it the tat c a genetics there the Polynesians then is that was really exotic after that I knew completely that I decided to work for the merchant navy in Canada
Ok wow me jeis I have a B nello I did common work for a long time know I’m a lot in social work but there I was in a place in my life that I was like
Doing manual work I like to prove as a woman also in an environment which is more like a man I worked for the new Champlin bridge in Montreal ah wow yeah on the tugs yeah we were going to place the barges below the pom then after that I worked for NAS we
Transport cargo for the Inuit communities of the nav pu of the nounav I did seasons it’s 5 months nonstop while no ice yes then we transport everything what is not transportable by plane with the Ines when we arrive it’s like Christmas ah it must yeah all
The cars which are ordered all the construction materials it allowed me to see a little another side of the organization of the North I have That’s it, I got my certificate, I can drive boats, I drove those big boats there, Gargo, that’s it, that’s the fun because I could
Go to each village and I met lots of very, very loving NESs of the culture of culture is new the less pleasant side for example it was that I was the only woman on the ship then it was not necessarily a more positive masculinity that there is it
Is in does it or you not very pleasant for my identity as a woman there it’s very nice to make good money after seasons I was like yeah yeah that’s it it’s had its day yeah then the pandemic arrived then I sen in BC that’s when you came to BC yeah then for
What reason you know the West that’s it I’ve had a love affair with the West since I was 20 like many from Quebec I came to do the serises after the SEGEP near the Calamalka lake
Yeah super beautiful lake pu the turquoise ver yeah the which is that then there was a place where we went we could jump cliffs after our no Peking through that we met someone who worked for trees it’s tree planting so the following summer
I planted trees even that’s how I financed it my university studies then at 20 years old that’s what with the gain of friends with whom we had done the welcome of serise we all found a contract at Kicking Horse I was 20 years old then my first snowboarding experience in the West
It was kicking hor that’s golden yeah great the most the most demanding there yeah I know the first time I still knew the aôel wasn’t even finished being built down there the mountain had just been bought before c a small local mountain in fact it didn’t please the locals
There because all of a sudden took tickets everything was like in the process of being gentrified then transformed there but we I wasn’t so aware of all these socio-economic aspects at that time I checked the tickets then I organized the parking then it allowed me to
Ski every day to have a free ride then the first time in gondol yeah I was afraid I never shook skiing in powder it’s true because we don’t have that type of snow there or maybe once a year there in Quebec like that but you know deep like that here it’s almost
Every day it’s basically that’s it that winter there I really gained in experience then in snowboarding ability that’s me quickly I took a liking to the h piste and not so much to the PA then to the ski ticket well it goes quickly someone who has never done PIST what’s the
Difference what were you going to look for or for what reason do you think you’re more tripped P final it’s sure there to the question after that there is crazy snow fresh tracks there
Is no fun you go where you want I go where you want so there is the adventure side there is the fog side there is the side also the relationship you build with the place because the climb takes a lot longer than the descent so you really have more time to
Notice the trees the sound of the birds the quality of the snow the views I always loved when even the ascent part the training also who you Mo I like doing this in a small group even though there are
Risks associated with that you have to trust people fairly and then I have already been in a situation where someone has really scared sometimes there are small avalanches you are not in a controlled environment and therefore the adrenaline that you get from it you a desire to get away from
The crazy to have a more intimate relationship also with the environment and less impact it came after this reflection you made snow cut down all the trees to make of the slopes there is an impact there is a fairly large ecological footprint whereas if you climb
On a climbing skin it doesn’t have much of an environmental impact it’s sure there is one of the reasons why I wanted that we are talking is because I know that you are very active at the level
There is a ski resort project in zington which is close to where you live which is located in LAAC it is not everyone which is for the opening of this station there then I really wanted
You to talk to me a little more about it I worked a lot with the natives in Quebec I arrived here then there you look around you then there are lots of walls on the history of the region is all pioneering 1850 you see some gentlemen making a fire trail
Or there I really wonder where the natives are you look around you there are rivers lakes forests we are in an interior rainforest it is sure that there were natives sure we are in an environment conducive to fishing hunting
Traditional Amerindian practices so I dig a little more then there it is that I discovered the presence of the syikes and I also discovered that the syikes were declared extinct by the Canadian government so that is a first in all my experiences with
The natives in Canada because obviously I I shouted I told them I want to work with you volunteer whatever but I want to support your cause no matter where I am in Canada I will always work in decolonization because I find it one of the most
Important issues we have we in Canada made the government of Canada had declared the sen as being extinct but then finally you arrive here then you make contact with the S who are not finally extinct then there you start to work for a yeah right then that’s
It is a group that not everyone follows or respects because they are a traditional system of governance through colonialism we had the band councils which were established by the Indian Act of 1976 so it It’s a system of governance that was imposed by the
Federal government and they said to the community ok we’re going to set aside reserves for you and then you ‘re going to read a band chief every 4 years we imposed our system of governance on societies often which were matrilineal which were based on councils of elders we completely put
Aside their system of governance they were Nations with their own system of governance but we arrived we told them they must do like us so still today in 23 we have tensions even within the indigenous communities between the traditional governance systems that many have kept alive in parallel with the more
Recent modern band council system and let’s say that we take the example of weten where there is a pipeline project the weten band council has signed for a very long time and said yes to the pipeline but the traditional clan leaders opposed the pipeline or activists who have been
Blocking the pipeline for 15 years I am sold to the traditional governance system desx and there you work with this indigenous group there which is very present which is very respected here it’s super complicated I find it easy to say but it’s too complicated we don’t understand anything
To do it to you still make the effort I think that it is part of what each person must do I consider that it is it is the story of a life learning to decolonize our thoughts our looks our tickets our reflexes when you start on this journey there you realize
That there is a lot of deconstruction to do before being able to build there today we talk a lot about truth reconciliation decolonization is the whole aspect of truth according to me if you want to enter into Reconciliation even as a society as a state there is
A lot of work to be done in the area of truth it’s not right to buy an orange t-shirt uh yeah [Laughs] no it’s it’s a step if you wear the t-shirt because you recognize the murder and the disappearance of all these children there you have already advanced a little in the
Field of decolonization because in the process of deconstructing the somewhat naive history that in Canada we have never been violent and then we have always done things well things it was a shock I think for many Canadians when we discovered in Cam loops these are the remains of children
Who have not been buried ah we have a violent violent history Canada we like that we seem to think that ‘we are so welcoming here I said that as a joke but it puts us in a position which is extremely uncomfortable and I think that initiatives like the
Orange t-shirt there are a lot of people who will just jump on that it’s done or checklist but you know there ‘s really more than that to do one of the rules of traditional governance of SX which is smomine which means to share in women because it’s a matriarchal society so
I work for a matriarch who was for Marilyn James James who was appointed there by the Council of Matriarchs and then one of their rules is that first you have to take care of yourself from your immediate family and then you can start taking either your community or
Investing yourself where you are it’s already a lot just managing your life in the social context where we are it’s it’s a fairly violent economic system there’s a lot of injustice already it can be a lot you know to embark on a journey of decolonization but I consider that it is a
Responsibility that we have in fact the newcomers I find sometimes there is a greater sensitivity to decolonization than the colonists if we want call ourselves that, the cols, we are settlers, I am a column, we have been in Canada for 400 years, but that’s it, we arrived, we took
The TER, there was a huge injustice from the start and not to recognize that so not to be in the truth we cannot naively have to move forward in reconciliation [Music] I needed this introduction to talk [Music] about I was going to ask you again the question or the rest in the ideas I ‘love it’s just because there I recognize that’s what I am from the ancestral territory and not CD of the Sxac people the SX call it Pana the biologists named it
The RAC corridor so it’s been 70 years since the mines are closed it is very isolated more or less inhabited there is a highway but it is considered a connectivity corridor for animals such as the grizzly animals that are endangered grizzly it is an indicator species
Where there are grizzly bears usually the rest of the ecosystem is doing well so we focus a lot on the Grizzly but feeling that the approach is ecosystemic if we want because it concerns
The health of the ecosystem at large total pu that he has it it means white grizzly so here I learn that passenser there is a recessive gene specific to the mountain skirk specific to the central Selkirk mountains
Where this corridor there is which there is one griszly in 10 perhaps which is white there are like legs a little darker it is a genetic variation of Grizzly which has never been seen elsewhere it demonstrates a healthy genetic pool grizzly bears they need large territories are very
Sensitive to human development which has like a threshold at which they can tolerate a human presence if you exceed this threshold they will stop going to the other territory next door so you fragment the territory you isolate populations zingon it’s a ski project proposed
In the coror from pikilana where already the biologists who are interested in crly are specialists Michael proor Wayne Mury Julius STR I had the chance to do interviews with these two Jul my these are men who dedicated their lives to Chris then already they say with the highway with
The logging with the mining past there is H Sking so helicopter skiing which happens in this corridor there we have the r Lodge which does CAT Sking there are back countries LOD which also have an impact because we are going to talk about it but you are also involved in a back LOD
Country and therefore a modification of their practice since they have known me yes it’s true you also brought that into their company then into their approach so we have I learn all that so don’t want it’s sure that it has a direct impact on my way of skiing because
I am also becoming more and more aware of my impact, even just as a little human who climbs in a climbing pot, I have an impact, it is to become aware of this impact here we are humans we have an impact we are not alone the courses which focus on avalanche safety
Health safety health avalanche safety should also contain an environmental component when you enter the back country also kill in the field of grz des wolverine caribou and you can have a very negative impact on them do we want to preserve them do we not want to
Share space with them me that’s where I am Z offers a ski in right in the middle of a corridor right in the middle of a Grizzly hibernation zone right in the middle of a territory which is still
Very difficult to access and therefore very conducive to the presence of Grizzlies the threshold there for development is already there is already a bit like at the border so having 1200 people per day at
A ski resort in the middle of this corridor there we sign the stop the death warrant of the white CIS On [Music] that’s when even regions which have been known for a very long time by LOs who go SK in this area and my opinion is B you want to go there go on foot it’s really beautiful
Skiing in this area it’s is it’s skiing that when you’ve reached a certain level you can start going there it’s one thing going to C don’t you pass far from the highway there are people something is happening there far there you are far away know what are you doing yeah then we had
A lot of quite dramatic examples there were deaths in our region but almost everywhere in British Columbia Alberta ah yes or yeah it’s is that with climate change it’s becoming more and more difficult to actually predict the [Music] avalanche cycle something that really bothers me it’s such a colonialist attitude of always
Wanting to go further and and in a distant land never explored before doesn’t it come from the era of great explorations then the colonialist I don’t know but ca n’t we be satisfied with the playgrounds we already have and then stop going to
Encroach on the territory of the grizzlies I’m just looking at an old forest in the corner you can just go there in a climbing pot it’s perfect I have 600 m of altitude difference it’s always fresh snow there is no mechanization I ‘hear no engine Mo I’m satisfied with that but here I
‘m playing devil’s advocate anyway yeah we started the interview you defined yourself as an adventurous person is that possible is that the human is capable of just saying to himself oh no I’m not exploring it looks like it’s yes that’s it the human or it’s the Western culture
And hence the decolonization of our thoughts of our biases then our desires even which are also imprinted by this colonialist culture there in fact I find myself adventurous in the sense that I take risks or completely change my life yeah but I admit that I am
Still conservative in my choices of where I’m going to ski is more in, let’s say, the question of opening a new ski center: can’t we just do with the resorts we already have because these resorts there have already ruined quite a few corners
Where there are a lot of humans the sandstones already have carp we can basically leave them with other P territory where we know that they are more in this notion there that’s what I ‘also love parks
In a park you can go on foot you can’t go there with your word snow a sleet inbernation can wake up if he wakes up it affects him all his cycle’ imagine what a helicopter does In short, it would actually be good if we stopped considering humans as being superior to the
Rest of the animals and living species on this planet, started thinking about things in a more egalitarian way and therefore made developments like that’s what we also include the other apps ah or it’s we’re [Music] not cultureciental it comes DESC it comes from our entire
Philosophical tradition but we have elevated humans above other living species because we supposedly has the capacity for language that other species do not have but that is not recognizing that other species have the capacity for language, we are a superstar in science Susanne S who has done incredible research on the communication networks
Of trees between themselves through the myellum there are so many things that we don’t know about the living world that makes me think about language there you taught me that ralac the name is it’s P I
‘m going to ask you the question I I don’t really know how to say it but as a white person we have Dr VO use this term because clearly I wouldn’t be able to make a sentence in
CX but P has it well I can remember it then let’s say in the email we sent to each other you greet me by saying Lim limt Lim Lim it’s thank you that I was saying it well or the questioning
About cultural appropriation yeah yeah if you took the word you made sweaters you put it to sell the sweaters would be very inappropriate but James often tells me the land the territory the TH likes to hear the Syx so to use the words in fact it’s the it’s the dialect
Of the sy because it’s a larger family of language so the sin sin that’s what the sinikes from in the bottom of Revel St to Washington then from the Rockies to the other B des sloken that’s pretty much the traditional territory so quite all the West co the territory likes
To hear this language has no problem do you want to use it could integrate it more into everyday life if you are also able to name where it comes from it can even be part of the cause because There you are educating other people, let’s tell me, I love that, buying pearls,
Pearl earrings when I see them in countries where I am in Montreal or where I know artisans and then I wear them with pride I know it’s not my it’s not in my culture but I supported an artisan of one and two I’m trying to LIKE to show that I love
Their culture or the craft or know h so it it’s not inappropriate it would be very inappropriate if I sold if I started doing Indian beading then you know that I was making sales then when you reappropriate the culture in this way it’s very frowned upon
One thing that I notice in the iussi region of the West Coutenis is that let’s admit an organization a company will sometimes want to do a recognition of the lands say we recognize that we are on an unceded territory they will say example desik tonara from there
It looks like bndle that he put some TR that they are like good everyone will be happy we said hello to everyone it’s a super complex situation the one we face here when the natives define what was their ancestral territory there is often
Confusion at the same time it’s normal it’s most of the Ametians across Canada without wanting to generalize too much were semiomade peoples there were a lot of of meetings between different groups uh some had stones that others did not have some had
Trees that others did not have in Quebec for example the zinous every summer go up to Canau to go see the inouettes the inou the inouettes the inou had the snowshoes the zinou have everything what is in P of fu there are exchanges which were made there the
Typis that the zinou made but remains that when you see in the territory of the zinou in Quebec the whole territorial recognition the capacity is quite CLA we are in the territories is too much of the zinous then we do not like more and the inoues came here to exchange and
Crees also came here to exchange there are few resources but they are there which prove archaeologically speaking that we are in a CX territory the CX were the only ones to make small houses for example we have listed in the Slocane valley which was not flooded
By because that is what was not also the cause of all the floods that there were in the region in the 1950s and 60s precisely the execution of the CX favored the construction of these dams there because there we had just traced the question of the natives the construction of
Electric water dams yes which serve the United States it is super complex what is happening in this region here most of the dams on the lakes here it is to control the water levels in the South in the United States so the United States gives us lots of money every year and
Right now we are reaching the end of the C treaty there so we are in the process of renegotiating the Colombia Treaty the C’s are obviously not invited to the table but the T’s are there the are there but well
They all have a band council are all a first nation recognized by the Indian Act that’s not the case for the CX’s it’s hyper complex because these are the scenes which have been hit hard by these barrages and the scenes are not even invited to the
Negotiation table which could generate funds also because the idea with the new negotiation is to share a little income with the indigenous communities also one of the main impacts of these dams was that the salmon no longer came up here, that changed everything environmentally speaking socially speaking here it was the ronne de
Saon the most epic like in the entire northern hemisphere the Somon left from the Atlantic Ocean you know how far we are he went all the way up to R St through Colombia he followed all the way to the end of Cassar it was big falls then that’s where
We often meet people who fished they also fished at the forum in Washington the big res of this most of this world are blocked by the dams there are band leaders who make decisions in the name of their whole nation but who are they it’s an individual it’s not necessarily
Always the interests of the earth which are defended but in the case of the navy it’s that it’s that’s what allows me as Blanche for being an ally because I can really be behind her and then say that I too believe in that because what we defend and what guides
Our decisions is not an app for profit, she never speaks for example of its rights to the territory always talk about its responsibilities that’s what we try to share as much as possible with all the people who live in the westcoutis is that we must become aware
Of our responsibility to take care of the ststè it’s a shared responsibility it’s not fair for the natives there you are French speaking yeah then you now live in a place which is predominantly English speaking British Columbia has your relationship with French
Changed it’s I was immersed in an environment nevertheless sovereignist in the 80s but that being said I find that basing a nationalism project only on French in the case of sovereignty in Quebec the failure lies in the fact that we have not recognized that there
Are 11 other nations within Quebec who are asking exactly the same thing as us, that is to say self-government, autonomy to decide to do what they want with their territory to teach the language they want their school to provide
Care in the way they want it there is so much of a link between the entity struggle of French Canadians and the identity struggles and demands for self-government of indigenous nations and then not having makes this connection of not having foreseen or planned what
Do we also do with the demands for autonomy of the 11 there are 11 other nations in Quebec it is a little hypocritical to consider ourselves as desconized then to want to have our own country to no longer be decolonized but not to recognize the quest and the requests
For self-government of the other nations which are inside not it is not that I would not like it to have a country of Quebec but in at the same time we have to take into account that there are other nations then also that there are plenty of French speakers in the rest of
Canada so I like to define myself as a French Canian more than as a Quebecer I identify with my identity as a Montrealer I identify with my identity as a French Canadian because I do n’t want to isolate the other French-speaking community from the rest of Canada we are not French Canadian
S our French language you know a lot of our cultural identity passes through the language so if the language disappears we no longer speak the culture also tends to disappear how do you take the reality sinx then the language sinx because there we are like in the process
Of say super bilingual yeah yeah but we don’t even think about the indigenous language which was there before these two languages no I very much agree in fact I had started to have these thoughts even seeing as I was going to a international program I had Spanish lessons
I loved having your questions about languages well German or well you don’t know we don’t have that much access but it’s something on which all I would say the indigenous communities concentrate a lot of effort and energy is to preserve the language it also depends on the number
Of interlocutors who are still present but you know I was lucky in my life to have books which taught the title of the books which taught nnabé should we teach more indigenous languages in schools yes I think we are seeing more and more Fran West is a co-production of LAFCO and webwest funded by the Government of Canada and in partnership with women’s network British Columbia production and animation it’s me Patrick lac main web producer West Michel ARB web content manager West Sandra Poirier direction l Chartier production direction photos and video editing Jackie Atkins
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