Hello and welcome back to the channel! Thanks as always for the visit, hope you’re all good yeah? In this video I am taking a well needed break. I have had a ‘bump in the road’ and can’t burn the candle at both ends right now. Hopefully this will help people realise when they need to take a breather themselves.
This ride – https://www.strava.com/activities/10834367628
We’ll call this an episode of learn from Andy’s mistakes what I’m about to go through for sure could be crippling your gains on the bike and it has been mine [Applause] Recently good morning welcome to another Ultra cycling related video here in sunny England if you watched any previous videos thanks a lot for coming back if this is your first one my name is Andy I’m ultra cyclist on the south coast of the UK videos I make are about Ultra
Cycling training and and Adventures currently documenting my training for the Transcontinental Race So if you have endurance goals of your own subscribe follow along I’m sure there be something in there for you or maybe you’ll teach me something on the C for today got a bit of a short
Ride to be honest good reason I’ll go into detail on why that is shortly to be honest weather’s pretty poor so it couldn’t have come at a better time hopefully this footage isn’t completely useless and you can hear a bit of what I’m saying just got a few
Hours planned today staying fairly close to home taking it pretty easy essentially a recovery ride I can’t ride en Jance at the moment and I’ll explain why makes quite a nice change to be honest hopefully you’re all well looking after yourselves and getting the odd
Ride in let me know what you’ve been up To Be Oh This wind is brutal living by the coast it’s almost never a Bad Thing days like today just get absolutely battered who needs mountains when you can push against this that’s better much more sheltered down this road and it’s a couple miles long so lovely so we’ll call this an episode of
Learn from Andy’s mistakes don’t do what he does but hopefully consider this a PSA and what I’m about to go through for sure could be crippling your gains on the bike and it has been mine recently so as you’ll see from the thumbnail the theme of this is self-sabotage but stealth self-sabotage
And as I alluded to earlier it’s a reason I’m not really riding endurance today and probably can’t for a couple of weekends this is overtraining and you might think maybe yeah maybe you overdid it a bit tired bit fatigued overtraining goes much deeper than that has the potential to screw up
Your training plan quite long term and it’s also really sneaky if you do slip into full-blown overtraining potential is you’re not getting the most at your workouts at the same time losing Fitness there are actually a good few symptoms to watch out for and I’ll put them on the screen
Because I can’t remember all of them just the ones that I had but it really does sneak up on you for me I’ll explain what happened in my training and how it’s messed mine up thankfully it’s not the end of the world over the last few weeks I just
Found it harder and harder to get through my workouts struggling towards the end of the sessions following the exactly the same structure so it should be working as the weeks went on towards the end of the sessions I could make it through less and less to really hit on Thursday just
Gone the first thing I thought was maybe I need to calibrate my trainer it felt far far too difficult so I stopped the workout calibrated my trainer and also I have a power meter on this bike so I connected my phone to the power meter compared the
Two power meter showed I was actually pushing much higher than what the trainer said my first thought was trainer knackered so started going down that rabbit hole thinking it’s not me surely it’s got to be got to be the equipment blame the tools and the realization came the
Following day my legs just screaming with pain far too much really tired to started to consider other options a couple of the symptoms are increased RP or relative perceived effort so your workouts feel much harder than they actually are increased muscle soreness and muscle tightness and started to think actually
That’s one of the main things I was struggling with I spent some time a couple days before foam rolling my legs had a little cross ball trying to work out nuts thinking my legs are just just need a workover really thought if I spend some time on Mobility stuff I feel better the
Following day and lo and behold performed even worse it’s easy to say managing fatigue is simple you get tired you rest it’s not always as simple as that the nature of what we do as endurance Riders and athletes we’re always managing fatigue to some extent and always tired when you’re in a
Routine of training taking the workouts having your own busy life outside of that too it’s really easy to miss just how tired you you’re actually getting before you know it you have those symptoms you don’t realize if you let it go too far all kinds of things can happen to
Your body your body can start to catabolize muscle mass lose the muscle mass that you built in your legs to get fitter that’s probably a worst case also extreme fatigue I’ve had that in the past a level of fatigue that doesn’t go away for weeks and weeks it’s really not nice I thought
Actually having a whoop would help me with that and it does really really good overtraining can be extremely Sneaky Oh I’m sure some people watching this will just chalk it up to me being an idiot not resting enough and that’s okay but I hope in sharing this some people watching it at some point in my trigger a memory you realize a nip it in the bud quicker than I
Did that said I think I got it pretty early to be honest so I still do some shorter rides for a couple of weeks no threshold just try and rest the initial feeling when I realized it’s not my equipment of fault it’s me was a bit annoyed to myself to be
Honest made a lot of really good progress in the winter I can feel it slipping through my fingers and I sat and watched that happen for several weeks weeks until I put two and two together and realized you got to not be too hard on yourself situation like that try to turn
It to a positive my case it kind of felt like once I accepted it’s overtraining and I got to have a couple weeks of less mileage it’s actually quite nice take my foot off the gas a little bit my body kind of felt like when you finally get
Your twoe holiday day you don’t realize how busy your life is suddenly you come over really tired like your body just accepts it’s time for a rest had the exact feeling the next day might just be where I’m really really tired but I think definitely overdue a rest so PL in my
Comeback going to take about 8 nine more days easy my Club Portsmouth North End Cycling Club organize a session on an outdoor Vel Drome every Monday so not this Monday coming but the following Monday going to take this bike with a power meter on it do an outdoor 20
Minute FTP test whatever number that comes back with I just accept it might be lower but it’ll be the right number to train from then I’ll start doing my threshold sessions Outdoors rather than on the drainer it’s getting close to Spring now so the weather’s going to get a lot
Warmer much harder to produce the right numbers indoors once it gets to warmer weather hopefully after that and get a bit more quality training in before my first race in May so here ends that particular story if you weren’t already aware of how bad overtraining can be in
The extent of the the impact you can have on your training plan and hopefully stored mentally and then if you get similar symptoms you get over the bump in the road a bit more quickly than I have this time as I’m sure you can see not only is it incredibly
Windy it’s now raining too so some pretty standard British weather thankfully right now I’m about 15 minutes from my house so not much more of this for me well when it comes to riding through the city of Portsmouth this is about as nice as it gets so I’ll say bye now and if
You’re watch until now then thank you appreciate it as always have a really good week look after yourselves I’ll see you on the next One [Applause] a
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Over training is a constant problem for me as I work shifts. Nights etc. Staleness can creep up very quickly. Great post. Regards James, Isle of Man.
Firstly, I wish you a very good recovery – taking the time it takes is my advice. Also I want to let you know that it is always inspiring watching your videos – no mater if things are going as planed or not. And then something I've been wondering: With all the wet road riding you have doing, in conditions pretty similar to my roads here, what lube are you using. Personally I have been using several different drip on wax products for some time, but I find they wash off pretty fast in the wet. After like 30 km in the rain, not healthy noises start… As you have been doing much much longer rides in those conditions, you might have better success with lubing? Any advice?
Ah this sucks Andy. I went there last year when I was just riding unstructured. My Strava fitness score went from 90 to 30. I know that it’s more a measure of load than fitness but I just couldn’t maintain that load anymore, got ill and just crumbled at the end of last year. I also lost 24W off of my FTP and it’s taken 2 months of structured training to get that back. I wish you a speedy recovery, can’t wait to watch you do the trans continental!
We'll done for seeing the signs early enough to act and correct.
Useful pointers you have shared too.
Enjoy the rest and recuperation. In the past, I have consistently overtrained, resulting in injuries and time off, which hindered my progress. This year, I am taking a different approach by gradually building up my training intensity, while also incorporating frequent mobility and strengthening exercises to minimise the risk of injury. Hopefully, these changes will help.
This came at the perfect time for me. I have been training indoors all winter, and we have been having a small abnormal heat-wave where I live (call it, "wintermission" ), so I've started to test out my spring training plan which is to substitute a portion of my indoor Z2 rides for outdoor imperial centuries. In the back of my mind has been the possibility of overtraining, and figuring out what kind of fatigue I can continue to train through as my body adapts versus what kind of fatigue is more of a warning sign that my body isn't going to adapt enough to handle the additional load.
As they say “live and learn” Andy, sometimes a back off is needed to take strides forwards again 👍Very Interesting you mention about disturbed sleep as that took me back maybe 5 years ago where my performance on the bike suddenly went backwards, I thought it was maybe over training but kinda wrote that off and I put the sleep issues I was having pre the drop-off down to pressures of work and general life, now listening to your experiences I’ve realised that was the first signs of overtraining. Thanks for another enjoyable and very watchable video Andy, look forward to the next installment 😊👍
I’m pretty sure I’m suffering with this at the moment as well, running a similar training program to you with threshold sessions on zwift in the week and a long ride on the weekend. I keep getting ill, and generally feel run down. I do have 2 small kids so they bring back lots of bugs which doesn’t help, plus lack of sleep because the youngest wakes up all through the night. I also have a physical job doing building work.
Currently having an easy week, a few days off the bike completely and a few short ride at easy zone 1/2 pace
That was great Andy, interesting to hear about your experience with over training. But you have the Trans Continental Race coming up, so I can easily understand why you want to be out there training hard. I guess it's a matter of keeping a balance.
I like your idea that riding into the wind is like a hill session.
Are you using a mouth mount for the camera…? You get a much wider range of shots than if it was a chest mount.
Ughh Andy !
Me: … just like "bonking" we know when we get there… ((haha))
Currently, I'm recuperating from shoulder injury = Put aside the 'power/threshold' numbers for now.
Using time & miles + perceived effort.
Thanks for sharing your insights + the Inspiration.
Rest and recovery is so important to be integrated into any training regime.
Really good video, something that should have more light shed on it imo. I know I'm at my best/strongest if I only ride twice a week. The problem is i love it & want to ride 5 times a week! 🙄
This is key information people need to know, I've done it – we all have…you think you just have to beast yourself all the time to get better but a day off or easy rides actually makes you better overall. Well said Andy
Put a sock on it . i think you can buy a cover to go over your camera microphone. As old 59 with just 5 years of cycling, i was thinking the level your at would it not be worth investing in a good cycling coach to move you up to next level. great video again.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Good video, interesting stuff. I think the weather has played a major. part. Not so bad that you can't go out, but he body is working hard to fight the elements, and then throw the esrcise fatigue on top of that.
Hi how to increase fitness level on saddle? Thanks andy