A look at why debt is a problem for UK, but also how the current situation could be changed.
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In 2010 the UK had a record peacetime budget deficit the incoming government sought to reduce debt through austerity but over the next 13 years debt to GDP has steadily increased and is forecast to keep Rising with a vague hope that it will fall in four years time due to these deteriorating economic
Circumstances the labor party have cut back on their green investment plans saying we can’t afford it it’s not just central government debt local councils are on the brink of bankruptcy the High Street is in crisis and mortgage ins solven is are rising but is it as bad as these negative headlines and importantly
Is there a way to break out of this Doom Loop of rising debt and falling growth unfortunately the UK’s fiscal situation is somewhat worse than it actually appears for three reasons firstly the forecasts are based on entirely unrealistic assumptions of government spending the government has assumed that tax revenues will rise with
Inflation but government spending or not the head of the OB was scaving stating that debt forecasts had to use government figures which had basically been plugged out of thin air worse than Fiction it’s not something that offers too much reassurance it means that whoever is the next government will need
To implement deep spending cuts to meet these targets and to achieve these kind of cuts would require deeper austerity than in the early 2010s the problem is though that there’s not much fat left to trim education has been hard hit uh leading to crumbling schools and low teaching morale the legal system
Has been underfunded leading to a backlog of cases even the NHS which has seen increases in real spending is struggling to keep up with demand as an aging and sicker population places greater strain on Services one reason for the UK’s poor economic growth is a record number of sick people unable to
Work recently the on revised upwards the number long-term sick in the UK to 2.8 million and this has a large economic cost we’re seeing in lack of uh workers and need for immigration and low growth the second reason to be really concerned about the UK’s debt situation is that in
The past 15 years economic growth has slowed down dramatically this means we’ve seen much slower growth in tax revenues than expected but at the same time there’s been a growing demand for government’s spending on pensions health care and all the economic inactivity if we ignore population growth real GDP per
Capita is basically stagnating now given all the pressures on G finances the easiest thing to cut is public investment because we don’t notice that in the short term and public investment has become much lower than the postar period under conservative plans it will fall to 1.1% of GDP under Labor’s new
Plans it will for to an estimated 1.2% so very little difference between the two main parties the problem though is that the UK has had a long period of low investment private sector investment has fallen behind especially since 2016 and the UK has one of the lowest rates of
Investment in the G7 and oecd and it’s this combination of low private and public investment that’s a key factor behind the UK’s low rates of economic growth and also this lack of investment stores up problems for the future potholes congestion lack of housing waiting lists poor health all damage the long run
Potential of the economy now In fairness it has been a difficult global environment higher energy prices slower productivity growth Europe and China are both struggling but it would be mistake to say there’s no alternative the US economy although far from perfect many of his own problems it
Does show that higher growth is possible since since 2018 the US has clearly outperformed the UK and European economies whilst Germany and the UK pursue a form of austerity the US took something of a gamble with a bold industrial policy incentivizing investment in Green Technology it led to
A surge in private sector investment in manufacturing it’s been quite expensive and has led to a significant us budget deficit but also by creating higher growth it led to higher tax revenues and this is the real reason behind the UK’s long-term Rising debt it’s 15 years of economic growth below its postwar
Average and it’s caused tax revenues to fall behind the demand for government services with low confidence and low investment the economy has become stagnant and whilst we think we can’t afford investment in renewable energy it’s worth bearing in mind the cost of the recent energy price surges was a
Mouthwatering 280 billion and this manifested itself in inflation and the cost of living crisis but affected everybody this is why investment in insulation and renewable energy can have significant long-term benefits so definitely there is a cost of investment but also there’s a cost of non-action to now the government’s fiscal rule is to
Reduce debt to GDP over the long term but the problem is economists have very little faith in these fiscal rules it encourages Creative Accounting and in the UK seems to cause cutting public sector investment which something the UK needs more of not less I would argue
That the real reason for the UK is deteriorating debt situation is a lack of economic growth and there’s a real risk that the UK could start to emulate Italy Italy’s basically stopped growing since 2000 despite frequent efforts to reduce its budget deficit debt to GDP continues to grow continues to inch
Upwards it’s the worst of Both Worlds low growth and Rising debt to GDP so the best policy for any government would be to prioritize kickstarting economic growth ironically trust and Quang had the right idea to try increase growth they just went about it in a way that
Didn’t work now this also brings us to a third problem about the UK’s fiscal situation and that is rising interest rates since the return of inflation bond yields have soared massively increasing the cost of debt interest payment last year the government paid nearly £120 billion on debt interest alone when
Borrowing was cheap the UK didn’t take advantage to invest and that’s something of a missed opportunity and that era unfortunately it’s probably over now the future direction of interest rates is uncertain with inflation forecast a fall but also another complication under quantitative easing the bank of England bought nearly 900 billion pounds of
Bonds which made government borrowing cheaper and easier because basically the bank were creating money to buy government debt but now all this is going into reverse they are selling the bonds they own they’ve already sold 150 billion but there still another 700 billion to go and this quantitative
Tightening will push up interest rates and make it harder for any government to borrow in the future and no one really knows the full impact of unwinding 700 billion pound of quantitative easing and even whether the bank will be able to do it but it would definitely make it
Harder for any future government because it will relatively push up bond yields now does this rise in interest rates and the market reaction to the mini budget of 2022 mean we should just give up and focus only on reducing debt I think that would be mistake for three reasons
Firstly although the UK debt situation is deteriorating it has been believe it or not much worse in the past in the postwar period the UK had debt over 200% of GDP but we still invested in the NHS education building houses now the reason such a high level of debt was not a
Problem is because well partly we had a big loan from America but secondly and perhaps most importantly in the postwar period economic growth was averaging to half% a year and this is the real method to reduce debt to GDP not austerity which reduces demand and investment but consistent economic growth of course
Easier said than done and it is worth bearing in mind that economic growth can come from many sources it could be private investment new technology a new burst of productivity it doesn’t have to come from a government green energy deal but at the moment hoping that something
Will turn up to change the UK’s fortunes feel was a bit too much like wishful thinking bold government investment can stimulate private Enterprise too at the moment the private sector is lacking in confidence perhaps because of frequent policy u-turns costly changes in trade rules and the general sense of malays
And weak wage growth now arbitrary debt rules are really not helping they’re too easy to fudge but also a fail to distinguish between borrowing which can really help long-term economic growth and something that need now this doesn’t mean the UK can magically improve all its Public Services through borrowing if
We want to tackle the long array of waiting lists through higher spending we will need to push up taxes if we want to have the low taxes if we want to cut taxes we’ll have to go private or put up with very long waiting lists but if the
Economy is stuck in the do drums then there is some Logic for a kind of fiscal intervention to help Kickstart the economy but the goal will be to achieve something called escape velocity this means escaping the cycle of high debt low growth low investment and low confidence when the economy escapes this
Doom Loop of low growth and austerity then the government starts to have a much better tradeoff and it can much more easily concentrate on reducing debt now I Googled escape velocity and realized I wrote about this in 2013 10 years ago and unfortunately was still haven’t achieved it 10 years later do we
Want to wait another 10 years now to achieve escape velocity you do need some degree of boldness and not be hemmed in by artificial debt targets now things might seem Grim at a moment but it could change for the better let’s hope that they do now another reason for broken
Living standards is a very real housing crisis how did we end up with this situation of house prices and rent being so unaffordable and what if anything can we do about it this video goes into more detail so do check it out thanks
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If you're interested in effects of QE and its distortionary effects on economy, housing and interest rates, this recent video might be of interest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goA9kkaDfTE&feature=youtu.be The scale of QE (Quantitative Easing) and Quantitative Tightening is quite significant.
It's Brexit mate .an the Tories an been complicit in it.
Nothing to do with Brexit then! LOOK OVER THERE!!!!
The UK also has a penchant for doing silly things; the l@ckdowns were not effective in anything but causing economic problems. Looking ath the graph on real GDP in the UK, its clear that whatever happened in 2008 has caused more damage than we realised, since that date the graph has almost flatlined. Something changed there, I wonder what is different? Now we have "net zer@" which is probably helping to damage the economy even more. Brexit is not the issue I don't think, its the policies of the government moving from being focussed on economic growth to being focussed on green issues and immigration isn't helping. What is needed is a government that has economic growth as its primary focus, without a thriving economy you have nothing.
The tale of the man who kept a donkey for his farm. To save increase profits/reduce costs he reduced the allocation of straw for the donkey. The donkey's performance fell, so to reduce costs he fed the donkey even less. After a while the donkey died.
Uk debit 3.4 Trillion it’s going up every second just look at the UK debit clock reality
The Tories have trashed the country primarily through the only 'plan' they have, and that's to cut taxes. There has been no strategy for growth just simply cut taxes and not support the wider economy. They just cannot be trusted whatsoever to be entrusted with the future of the country. What Sunak is saying – 'stick to the plan' is patently nonsense. There is no and never has been any plan. We can see how Tories squandered North Sea oil revenue in tax cuts to keep them in power by 'bribing' voters. They are only interested in keeping themselves in power and not the welfare or future of the country.
It’s very simple. If you cut a nations income, they become Pora, but the debt doesn’t, so the debt becomes a greater burden.
It’s not right, but all through history nations have found the only way out, is through inflation, inflation of wages, so that the income of everybody rises comparable to the debt .
Of course the income is taken up with increased costs but the benefits is because of the Feeling of getting better off, causes peoples outlook to be improved and to perform better. This does increase production if only a little, it still increases.
We know imports do become more expensive and exports become more competitive. This leads to a bigger effort to produce more at home.
As you can see the ones who do lose out the ones with savings, especially the wealthy as holding of money, inflation decreases the worth
So, when you hear an out cry about inflation, it’s always from the people with influence, i.e. the wealthy, and the rich, who have the means of shouting out
The ordinary people on the other hand, keep on seeing a slight increase in the standard of living .
Of course, due to the currencies depreciation, international investors, see the worst decrease of wealth, but this is the game all Nations play see ?
The Tories are not stupid. They knew that cutting public spending i.e. spending that taxes and benefits of the working population everything from roads to schools to the health service would be crashed.
The stupid public think it is a good idea they’ve been brainwashed into thinking it will save money, but the trouble is you see the money any money that saved is just taking away by the wealthy and sorted away in Tax savings and property abroad this as a country, as we can see, the state is terrible !
It says it ever decreasing circle of a poorer nation having less to spend on necessities, so with holding any gain .
So obviously, it was a con to extract wealth from the ordinary person 60 million of us i’m transfer to the wealthy.
This is heading for estate of what we call Third World. Whether people are so poverty stricken they can’t pay taxes, so there is no money to spend on infrastructure, and only the wealthy can send their children to another country to be educated and money can be sent to them extracted from the poor.
So theories have been a deliberate policy of making us a third will nation. You might not agree. You might argue otherwise, but the facts are the facts. See .
04:20 – 04:30 is where you have come up short in your commentary. Yes the US may have increased tax revenue, but then why has the US at the same time sunk even further into debt?? The answer is that in order to increase tax revenues the US increased government spending, which increased tax revenues, but the extra tax revenue raised is far less than the extra spending, causing debt to rise. This can only lead to one conclusion – higher government spending will only increase debt. The solution is true austerity.
Can’t import 10 million+ people in ten years( a large % of whom don’t work) and expect GDP/ capita to still grow @ 2% 🤡🌍. Latest cost figures @ £36 billion in the last 4 years🤐. Better pass the hat ‘round for Uk raine 🥴💸💸💸💸💸💸💸 And then there’s Green Deal. 😹😹😹
Main reasons lack of cheap energy. No fracking. Lack of workers due to demographics. So blame the green nutters.
This is what financial innovation gets you – gutting of tax base especially manufacturing, zombification of what's left, and endless financial crises from financial schemes gone wrong.
No point investing in economic growth engines without addressing the huge headwind from Private Equity LBOs.
You say a aging and sicker population is putting strain on NHS… have you been to a NHS waiting room lately? almost no one speaks English!
Exactly! 😒
Investing in unreliable and reliable dependent “renewables” is setting us on a path to poverty and no growth.
Energy is the backbone of any economy.
We should invest in new coal & gas power plants, increase drilling North Sea, plus allow fracking. Lowering costs of energy will lower prices allowing more spending by businesses and consumers, driving economic growth and a rise in living standards.
Dan Pena is gonna fix your problems.
The reason Britian is broke is that they no longer can steal with impunity. The loot has run out, and they can not do what everyone else does, generate their own wealth.
The truth is the UK's got no long term future for systemic reasons i.e. huge wealth inequality, the fact that only 10% of kids get a good education in the private sector, poor tertiary education having been sold a dud by Labour turning polytechnics into half arsed Uni's , the young have just ended up in debt and like the video mentions no investment in the country in the last 15 years..just a run down tiny island
It's a globalised world out there whether you like it or not, the UK government just aren't qualified to make the long term decisions, just a priveledged few from Oxbridge making all the key decisions.
No way can compare to the might of America who in 2018 initiated the Inflation Reduction Act, pumping 650 billion into the US economy in oreder to counteract the threat from China…then the rise of the Asian econmies, the UK is a small player ..and we left the EU to go it alone !
Capitalism has one fatal flaw.
Perpetual growth.
15 years of below average growth. And, strange to relate, the Tories have been in power for, errrrrrr, FOURTEEN of them.😂
Thats SIR DOOM LOOP yo you 👻
What austerity? The deficit spending is still rising. Where is the balanced budget?
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Fruit cake economics. One, you use rigged official data. Two, the UK has its own black hole, it's called the City Crime Cartels. The CCCs are sucking the blood from the economy. Within 10 years, the UK will be as poor as Portugal.
You rave about the US, again, US data is even worse than UK data. Take 2008, the CIA fact book failed to record any fall in US GDP. Under Biden, 20 million illegals have entered the US. They get free housing, and benefits, spent at Wall Street Mob centers like Wallmart. The West is collapsing, and it's going to be much worse than the Soviet collapse.