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What if you don’t feel any pain when someone murdered you but that’s but it’s like the cycle of life the life cycle is that what you would say to someone who murdered you oh wow you’ve all been victim of a lie if I if I was a victim
I’d hate it but I don’t live that life I’m not the victim right now it’s easy mess 80 billion animals 8 8 billion humans who the hell is eating planting vegan plants with pesticides is there a solution yeah there is a solution does anybody know the solution okay see tell
Me what you saw on the screens it was pretty bad like like chicks being killed pigs being killed like really really sad yeah yeah quite like like moving stuff it’s hard watch isn’t it how about you to be honest I didn’t expected to be that atrocious I guess um it doesn’t
Happen when it’s like organic it’s not like um free range for example for chickens so that’s organic free range and rspca that’s standard practice that’s really bad shocking isn’t it how many chicks get get killed like each like like month say each month um I can
Tell you it’s 70 billion a year really and 80 billion animal land animals a year are killed really just for the food industry that’s crazy and when you bring into like marine animals it’s trillions like three trillion trillions yeah but numbers like the numbers are so big you
Can hardly even think about it where do you bring it down to like one individual say there was like a pig here yeah is there a good way to kill that pig uh I mean probably like with with as least like light pain I guess as as
Possible the least pain how about you um yeah I agree with that but at the same time like surely like the numbers you gave for example because so much of the activi stamped is legal is actually not reliable and the numbers probably much larger much more yeah you’re right
You’re right so that’s like um they don’t take into consideration like pigs knocking did you see the knocking of the pigs they’re not growing fast enough they pick them up from the back legs and smash their head on the floor or something hard yeah going back to that
One individual though that P here if you didn’t have to kill that pig yeah would there be a justification to kill that pig even in the most humane way no pain no pain yeah definitely not no do you know why they’re doing that to the animals on the screen cuz the food
Tastes nice okay so people are buy buying the product right Supply like and demand I guess supply and demand yeah so would you want these industries continue or to stop uh if they can do it in like a more humane way then to continue but it if it’s still like this bad they
Probably have to yeah think about their actions I guess even though when I said about the individual Pig here you said there’s no justification to kill the pig if you didn’t have to yeah do you think you have to eat animals and what comes out of them to survive uh you don’t have
To but I guess it tastes nicer so do you value your taste pleasure ental pleasure over the entire life of an animal uh that’s a hard question so I feel like here you want me to answer um I feel like if like for example for me um I
Don’t really mind what I eat as long as I get the protein from the meat um so I guess a quote that my dad used to tell me a lot when I didn’t like the food I ate was them it’s not food it’s fuel so if you’re getting the nutrients from the
Food The Taste isn’t as important I guess I guess there’s also like the separate problem from just like farming animals and plants and everything it creates um like emissions and that’s why companies trying to make bio like um Friendly Foods right and those aren’t necessarily going to taste as good
They’re still going to have the like fill us up give us the nutrients yeah yeah so you’re looking at it from like a u point of view but this is an injustice to the animals right so if we could get like fuel fuel our body from plants do
You think that’s a better way of doing it than rather killing innocent beings for something that we don’t need that’s definely that’s definely cuz I could say the same I could say like I eat people because I don’t see them as people I see
Them as fuel for me because I get I need protein that’s true yeah and would that be justifiable defin humans have like a a higher like level of of sentience though than like animals does it matter I’m not sure cuz it’s it’s it’s not about like if they can reason or if
They’re clever or they’re smart they feel pain right guess that’s enough like they’re sentient they feel pain like a baby doesn’t have as much sentience as maybe an adult does that justify killing them because they don’t have the same level as we I think maybe like you
Should you should kill them but like in a night away how would you kill you in a nice way like put me to sleep I guess but if you don’t want to die well then yeah probably don’t don’t kill me I guess to anent so if you were the animal
What do you think the animal would be saying to you guys uh well probably do don’t kill me yeah don’t is probably I think it’s 100% do not kill me hi guy have you just finished watching the challenge as well yeah don’t tell me your opinion what you just
Saw was quite sad PR sad yeah it was scary shows the cruelty of animals yeah yeah but it’s just like watching like a lot of chicks going into like a just a munching why do they do that um efficiency I guess so that was the that was the male chicks in the egg
Industry yeah do you know why they do that to the male chicks the M chicks aren’t useful anymore right yes yeah the classes are waste products cuz they don’t produce eggs do you think that’s justifiable for an egg no no no they shouldn’t go through that much abuse die
They shouldn’t just die do you think they should go through any abuse yeah and you think that they also wouldn’t have been born if they weren’t being breed to eat yeah that’s true so the reason they’re forced into existence cuz people pay for animal products right if
They didn’t pay for it they wouldn’t force them into existence yeah true can I ask you would you rather have been born say like uh 6 weeks like the chickens are yeah to be gassed or would you just rather not be born at all yeah yeah I’d rather have have six weeks of
Life really six weeks of life that’s better than than no weeks of okay hold on guys who thinks who would rather be alive for 6 weeks you would and who wouldn’t I mean okay why why wouldn’t you rather be alive tell him why would you go through that much pain like it says
That does it it’s notor thing it’s 6 weeks is quite young like even like you don’t remember anything as a baby so I guess it depends on how like I don’t know how chickens feel the pain how do you think they feel they definitely feel it but like they’re just a baby I
Wouldn’t want to go through it if if you were a chicken yeah I wouldn’t want I wouldn’t want to live the 6 weeks yeah i’ I’d rather not live at all so will I be right in presuming you’re all against animal abuse like I agree with this whole thing
It’s just that is there a solution that can provide like the um the demand yeah there is a solution does anybody know the solution vegan go vegan yeah going to die in the wild anyways they’re going to get killed by Predators so these aren’t natur no this isn’t the circle of life
This is the circle of murder I think the way they do it I agree is is really bad let me answer your first question quick before we move so um these animals are not natural animals they have been modified selectively breed to produce so much milk produce too many eggs um
They’ve been forced into existence so they’re all in big farms um they’re not natural in the wild yeah but even even if they’re forced into resistance if you force them into resistance they come out of an egg and you put them on a farm and they live for however long a
Chicken’s life span is and then they die eventually of a natural disease that doesn’t happen that they don’t die naturally how do how how they not die naturally let’s say you let it die naturally though that’s that’s not what happens but let’s say I would like I
Don’t think I I would I like I’m not saying I’m going to go vegan but I think I’m against animal abuse I don’t think they should be killed that way I think they should just let them die at the end of their life cycle that doesn’t happen
Natur and then eat them afterwards you can’t eat a CH you can’t eat like chicken Me chicken can I ask you when you see road kill on the side of the road would you rather go and eat that no no no so that’s the same thing they died naturally right what do you think about free range chickens they’re able to live like
A that was all rspca free range organic s pratic wait that was free range when they you’ve all been victim of a lie how you get that that that footage of activist go in under cover and get the footage so like you know the um Pig gas
Chamber the pigs they used to tell you that pigs just fall asleep activist has put cameras in there and you see them suffering right yeah fair enough and so it’s that’s legal the gas Chambers and grinders you’re against hunting as well yeah yeah but like having people always
Hunted oh yeah what about calling de okay hold on they hunting having people always hunted so people have always had slaves as well just cuz we’ve always done something does it justify it now but if you like okay so say what if they don’t feel any pain when they’re
Killed do you still think that’s still wrong what if you don’t feel any pain when someone murders you but that’s but it’s like the cycle of life the life cycle is that what you would say to someone who murdered you oh wow so you think animals should have all
The same rights as humans yeah no if I they have the right to their own life excuse me I was just going to ask um so like a a predatory animal right so you think that’s for example hunting right um would you think would you compare
That the same thing as a bear for examp ex killing an animal to eat no no so Bears and Lions have to do it for survival they have no option I don’t like it you think we have to do think that was stupid everyone went vegan and they took
Away all meat should I create quite a big food shortage problem around the whole around the whole world you say it would would it not like around country to there’s 80 billion there’s 80 billion you go there’s 80 billion animals who are forc into existence every single
Year 80 billion how many humans are there on the planet8 billion so if we can feed 80 billion animals who eat way more plants than we could we could easily feed us do you not agree that insects will be killed for like the plants that you’re eating for crops so you’re paying for
Those insects to be killed right okay so I’ll this analogy if there was a dog on the side of the road and I’m driving a car if the dog runs out and I accidentally hit the dog I’m not directly driven at the dog to murder that dog right you’re not you’re
Not we need plants to survive all the whole our whole civilization collapse we need plants so we justify it because we need it you don’t need to eat animals or what comes out of them so how do you justify that a it’s more healthy b it’s the mass production of the plants that’s
Killing the ins who eat all the plants vegans you you got it you two are like on it sorry question so for example an animals that are omnivos just like humans right who can eat both plants and and meat dogs yeah right um bears as
Well but a lot of them they they still eat meat cuz it’s it’s good to have in their diet and I don’t think many of them would be able to survive without eating meat do you not think it’s similar to humans that that meat supplies a very like big sustainable
Part of our diet and also if you’re completely just against the killing of animals right um then then what difference does it make if if we’re eating them obviously I don’t agree in these conditions but like in what conditions would you agree I think and what what you’ve been like told about
Free range yeah um and I think maybe maybe that is slightly unrealistic but I do think there should be reform about like how it’s done now but I don’t think I’m completely against um eating eating give me the most mythical magical Farm you can think of well what would that
Look like yeah I I guess they’d be outside probably um they’d be able to live for a certain amount of time before being killed they wouldn’t be cooped up in in like um small conditions they wouldn’t be subjected to like overbreeding or they wouldn’t be subjected to um yeah just just like get
Subjected to like very very torturous killing like it have to be quick okay if I had humans and I let them live in a field and then I let them live until maybe they’re six and I shut in the back of the head they didn’t if you had to if
You had no no no no if if you if you if you needed to eat humans to survive right if you need to eat humans to survive right if they were like an important part of your diet and I know this sounds stupid but like the way you’re also bringing a hypothetical to
The situation so I’m going to bring a hypothetical to the situation if you need that to survive I wouldn’t be against that yeah right obviously as a human I don’t want to be killed myself but it’s the way it’s the way like the world works the way the Life Works in a
Survival situation if it was me or you like and we had to kill one of us then yeah you’d fight for your life that you can justify that right here in Winchester you have vegan options you don’t need to kill animals to survive right does anyone think you needs F
Vegan option not as easy as meat options are there what do you mean not as easy well I I there’s meat or I can easily get a meat option and it’s cheaper and there’s like more nutrients in the meat but I’d have to pay a lot more to get
The vegan option currently and I know for me who’s growing up eating meat all my life I think it tastes worse I you know think it’s quite ignorant say everyone could just go vegan hold on one question at a time I’ll ask you too so do you think if something was a little
Bit more expensive which is not by the way actually liveing vegan is 30% less it’s cheaper um you could get vegan options in Pre McDonald’s everywhere now it’s so easy the price is just a minor thing I don’t enjoy the taste of eating vegan ad taste justify murder um no it
Doesn’t but I don’t see murder constantly like in this moment now I was I was horrified but every every time I eat a burger I’m not immediately horrified cuz the when I see the burger the first thing that comes to my mind isn’t the death of the death the cruel
Death of animals I just don’t feel that I was the same but now you’ve seen it you’re accountable your actions now you seen it because before today you you might not have known you might not have ever seen that before and I hadn’t the
Moment I saw it I went vegan on the spot and I spoke up for those animals because if I was them I was someone speaking up for me I don’t think they got life too yeah comp in order to make any difference you’d have to have literally
Everyone go vegan so that because if let’s say just us went vegan it wouldn’t you know any shop which sells meat years ago did you ever see vegan option 10 years ago no okay fine so things are changing thank would you would you say being vegan and going uh like vegan and
Veganism would be a better way instead of like trying to advocate for farming reform and and things like that um but for example like like trying to trying to fix those conditions more Humane killing cuz I feel like Okay so this isn’t an animal welfare movement this is
Animal rights I wouldn’t want you whether you’re in a cage or in a lovely field I wouldn’t want you to be killed and have your rights violated and I don’t think anyone else should as well like Pig shouldn’t like dog shouldn’t because we don’t need to do this there’s
No justifiable way to justify what happens to them would you agree if you don’t need to just leave them alone I guess but I I think I think also for the I think also for the sense of like healthiness in your diet um you can be healthy about common animals do you know
That the biggest Academy of nutrition and Di athetics State you can be healthy once again I’m not I’m not extremely well on the subject okay I can give you something that can that can help if you like I know I think definitely definitely after seeing this I’ll do
Some of my own research about it yeah yeah definitely do um I think I think seeing that obviously it is it is horrible and I I do feel like from what I’ve seen initially from what I what I’ve been told about the whole industry right it doesn’t seem like what what I
Was sharing because you’ve been a victim of brainwash and I was to they tell you Humane they tell you free range because people are compassionate they don’t they don’t want you to see the truth because you won’t buy it like I I bought that for 26 years of my life cuz I didn’t
Know the moment I saw it stopped and so do so many people so many people gone vegan today how long did it take you to adapt your lifestyle instantly because it’s wrong right yeah but like did did you adapt your like lifestyle from meat to vegan in one day straight away
Because it’s wrong I saw the injustice how can I ever justify paying for that again we actually brought um our whole shopping the day before we bought animal products and we saw what happened to the animals we threw it all away we lived on beans on toes for a week until we
Figured it out I think I think I think it’s I think it’s wrong and it’s bad but me personally it’s not going to change my lifestyle I’ll try to eat less meat but at the end of the day it’s like what if you were the victim though if I if I
Was a victim I’d hate it but I don’t live that life I’m not the victim right now I eat meat eating does I veganism harms as many an I explained to you there 80 billion animals who eat plants 80 billion yes but they’re not eating the plants that
Veganism yeah thank very wor you need to get rid of a field of crops to plant to mass produce vegan crops right no no no no yes you would free up 75% of the world’s Farmland if we didn’t have animals living on them just say you’re
Sorry this isn’t going to change you you need to use like you need to use herbicides to grow them pesticides who do they feed the plants to you can’t feed a plant you can’t feed a plant to an insect with a pesticide on like you feel all the from California the
Rainforest being chopped down right given being fed to animals it’s easy mess 80 billion animals 8 8 billion humans who the hell is eating planting vegan plants with pesticides it’s not just vegan plants that have pesticide no worries I think me and my friends are going to but thank you for the
Discussion I’ve definitely going to do some research on my head awesome no worries thank you you know your argument about like um like what it FS us yeah right but at the same time like if by saying what it feels us isn’t that kind of saying that that we have like the
Same pain toleran as pain sentiments you said as animals but then when like my friend Freddy he talked about the insects and you said that insects have less pain tolerance is sentient less sentient but isn’t that kind of contradicting like the fact that that you can devalue insects but not animal
Not devaluing insects they they they can feel pain some of them but I don’t pay for insects to be killed iay yeah yeah lately though like we’ve seen like my dad for example he invested in this um this company that made protein BS with crickets yeah and that’s like on the
Rise in America for example um and like by arguing that for example veg like being vegan could increase Sur you could also argue that eating insects just for health benefits could increase as well so then wouldn’t like there be a chance that the similar similar activity might
Happen but if you’re directly paying for crickets to be killed right yeah yeah V don’t do that we just pay for plants and there some sometimes incidental crop deaths but it’s the least amount of harm we can cause we need plants to survive we don’t need Cricket bars to survive we
Don’t need animals to survive we need plants so you can’t justify paying for that when we have to have plants to survive yeah does that make sense that fair to be honest yeah yeah I can’t say anything appreciate your honesty would you take this card would you look into
Things more cuz I feel like you’re really like on the B of it if you go to that website movies WTF type in veg 26 um there’s something on there called the best speak you ever here I think for you that would be really interesting all
Right oh look thank you so have a good day bye
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The kid with the purple beanie and grey stussy top was mega triggered during the entire conversation. Probably the most triggered out of all of them.
Great work, Mel💚
They were outnumbered by your brain cells and charm
Well done! You are a great public speaker and debater!
You say some insects feels pain yet i say we dont know tbh i recon they all do just coz they dont express it the way we do and its actually silly of us how we compare ourselves to animals in that way really even the scientists…its like seeing how well an octopus can run on a treadmill…lol ❤
Amazing outreach!! It's great to see younger people engage in the discussion respectfully. Mel, I love the way you lead these conversations in such a compassionate and informative way 🌱💚
It’s always an education, being out in the streets with you both! Amazing work Mel and what a productive conversation. 💚
Mel you smash this debate…
Brilliant work as always, Mel! I always worry when I see outreach involving teenagers. I've seen too many videos where the teens have been horrible, but this group of lads came across as very genuine, polite and curious. They asked some good questions and you answered them all very well.
The usual emotional propaganda from the vegans..
Meat consumption is necessary for optimal human health – fact. You simply can't thrive without it.
Veganism is not long term sustainable fir a variety of reasons.
Yes considerably improve animal husband's practices snd evolve from factory farming..
I tried veganism and got pretty sick and weak from it. Never again.
Back to well sourced grass frd beef using cyclical grazing methods following the Predator prey patterns found in nature.
Happy animals and biodiversity flourishes.
Greg Judy regenerative rancher shows how this works so well.
Previously unproductive land is brought back to life and nature is brought back to create a balanced ecosystem petrochemical free
Unlike mono crops which vegans rely on.
There's been huge proliferations in acting academies since YT got going — that's for sure.
Awesome video as alway's guy's .
‘When I eat a burger, the first thing I think of isn’t the slaughter of a cow’ ummm maybe it should be 🤔🤔🤔
Great Outreach Mel. The last young man, he definitely is very intelligent and future Vegan.
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Animals are food and always will be deal with it. Stop with the pathetic examples you just so how weak you are. It's not abuse it's reality you can't handle.
I'm so impressed with you Mel! Knowing how anxious you were to start going out there, it's amazing to see you confidently take on a whole group of people. You rock!! 💚💚💚
The Indian kid is going Vegan 😊 good for him
Well done Mel, good performance 🙂
You handled that very well, all your points were spot on! Keep doing what you're doing!
How are these people going to feed billions of extra animals when there would be extra billions of people eating their veg.
wow, you are especially great in this convo, Mel!! thank you so much for representing the animals so well.🌱💚
🌱animals deserve rights.🌱
Fantastic outreach 💚💚💚💚
How many animals are kill for crops ?
More vegan outreach bingo points covered brilliantly. I’ve also had the pesticides argument recently. I told them as we are vegan we would obviously prefer other methods of protecting crops but as of now that option is most times not available and we have no control over it. However that doesn’t still justify the rape exploitation torture and murder of other sentient beings.
First class job and awesome activism!!
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thanks once again mel, always on the ball 👍
Hi! I am a fellow vegan who lives in Winchester, and i would absolutely love to join you on an interesting discussion to educate the world about the horrors that take place that go unnoticed, it baffles me 😤😤. When are you next in Winchester? I couldn’t possibly miss out on a chance to spread the veganism! Xxxxxx§
Keep it up lads
How do you decide whether something is moral? What consistent method is there to conclude whether something is moral or not?
Thought that the title was a little harsh considering you were the ones bringing the lads in for questions don’t you think?
Thank you for standing up for animals 💖💖💖💖
The guy in the arcteryx beanie needs to rest
These foolish young boys have no ideas about the struggles of animals these days… clearly some serious time spent studying is needed rather than spending all their time on snapchat 🤬🤬😡
Vegan hypocrites
Great Job! Wow!impressed with her patience!