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    Shimano Facing LAWSUIT Over Broken Cranks – The Wild Ones Podcast Ep. 19



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    This week we chat hill climb bikes, the latest update on the Shimano Hollowtech recall, rumours of Jumbo-Visma’s new name, and the bike stuff we’ve wasted the most money on. Here’s the full rundown:
    00:00 People Are Angry At Us
    01:32 Champion Hill Climber Changes To Disc Brakes
    09:02 Shimano Facing Lawsuit Over Crank Recall
    19:40 Jumbo-Visma’s Rumoured New Name
    23:45 The Bike Products We’ve Wasted Most Money On!
    37:30 Overrated or Underrated: Cyclocross
    40:31 Overrated or Underrated: Triathlon
    42:58 Overrated or Underrated: Parkrun
    46:34 Shimano GRX vs SRAM Rival Mullet

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    And watch Francis and Jimmi tackle The Struggle hill climb during their trip to the Lake District here: https://youtu.be/UZmA-Vmk7GI?si=xn4u6rzyVjg8QwY8

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    1. vonpupees on

      pretty sure any bike shop that has a madison account would be able to warranty. yet to have one into my shop so cant say for certain but couldn't imagine it would be declined

    2. leigh harwood on

      Not sure about your prediction with Andrew Feather at the Hill Climb champs. He's absolutely flying at the moment and has just missed the Ventoux KOM by only 26 seconds. A one hour effort.
      It's going to be an amazing battle, can't wait to see your coverage.
      Great show as always 👏

    3. UnknownGuy Guy on

      Regarding Nathans Question: I ride both, a GRX on my Gravel Bike and a Rival eTap on my Roadbike. Yes, eTap feels a lot more effortless, but I just LOVE the GRX brakes. The way you are able to modulate power is great on decents. I feel much saver than on my Roadbike. Brakes there are fine as well, but not as sensitive as the GRX ones.

    4. Gregory Lockhart on

      All my bikes have different size tires, so the tool kit varies. Example my fixie needs a wheel nut wrench, and the tubes on my gravel bike are huge. When I grab a bike, nutrition, lights and a Garmin are all I need to go!

    5. philip webster on

      I keep separate spares and tools on each of my bikes but each set is different to reflect the bike it goes with and the useage or abuse it will get (road bike, hardtail mountain bike and electric cargo bike). Bikes are my only transport, so I tend to ride more than one bike per day on multiple trips, so I can't be bothered to have to think about what to take with me.

    7. Frank Frankston on

      People are injured and probably killed by busted and separated LEFT and RIGHT hand cranks. Some injuries cannot be healed. Some victims are left in pain for the rest of their lives. The failure is the failure of "journalists" who failed for years to call these people out.

    8. toshman99 on

      Triathlon is full of people that are mediocre at every sport and call themselves triathletes. Also there is no real racing or strat like a crit or a road race.

    18. Walkerways on

      I have a 2023 Trek FX2 with 35mm tires plus bullhorn handlebars and a 2000 Giant Cypress (hybrid) with 2 inch mt bike tires on it. I like to keep saddlebags with tools/parts for each plus a mini pump clipped to the frame on each bike. Just grab and go. The tubes are different sizes so two separate bags is easier and I won't forget to transfer the pump if there's always one with each bike.

    20. Tim Rochte on

      You are not the only ones. I have a toolkit (mini tool, patches, tubes, etc.) and pump for each regularly ridden bike (4 with tools 6 with pumps because two vintage ones have matching frame pumps but I haven't dedicated a tool kit to them) And I was super pissed last week when I took one of the vintage ones out, grabbed a pack off another, only to get a flat and realize that the tube in that bag didn't fit. Grrrr. That's why one per. No thinking. Always there.

    21. Tom P on

      Class Action law suit: the lawyers make all the money the class gets a pittance of the proceeds.
      Brand damage: customers/buyers have short memories.
      Cost: all costs related to this crank fiasco get passed on to the next generation of buyers.

    22. M Goo on

      Class action lawsuit are a joke. The only people that get anything are the lawyers. The public will get a $7 voucher and a cool shimano sticker

    27. daniel green on

      Fit first buy later is great if you happen to live in a place rich with options, as individual bike shops tend to be pretty limited with their ranges, especially with shoes. And with shoes specifically, I've found that most issues come after a good length of time in the saddle, either due to the duration of pressure or changes in the range of motion over terrain and throughout a ride. There's no good solution for that IMO. I think more bike brands should introduce satisfaction guarantees, or like Fizik do with their test saddles, or even schemes where you can try-before-you-buy for a small fee which is then deducted from the purchase price if you choose to buy them

    28. Ron England on

      I had multiple saddle bags, pumps, lights. Then when TPU tubes came along I switched to just putting everything in a pouch that goes in my pocket.

    29. Peter Dannatt on

      Shimano hasn't handled this well but I seriously hope this doesn't damage them so badly that they either go under or don't have the money for the R&D from which we have all benefitted. That can be either from their products or from the pressure they put on their competitors.

    31. Michael Guerrera on

      Guys, shoes definitely. I went through 3 pairs before I settled on the two that I currently use. All 5 purchased on eBay and returned 3 of them no issues with refund. The worst part of it was the time wasted. The best is a pair of LG course hrs300 new without box for $11. Unbelievable and they are truly amazing. I did my first 50m road go and when I was done I didn't even notice I was wearing shoes at all. They advertise on LG that they mold to you feet and they were absolutely correct! A lucky gain for me. But I did waste my time and others in the process. And it was worth it

    32. roadrunner13 on

      You mentionned the watts from that guy, Ed. They seem impressiv ? Well, not particularly. Lance Armstrong admitted in a podcast that at those glorious times, when he was training at the col de la Madone in south of France, he developped… 500W for 30 minutes WITH a powermeter. 🙂

    33. White Beard Cycles on

      My LBS said its worth having your crank checked even if you think there's no current issue, so that they can report back to Shimano that your serial number has been checked should there be an issue in the future.

    34. Bradley Prater on

      Another great show, boys. I was thinking about Francis' comment about getting seriously injured at a critical time (descending, etc.). Would you not say that a tire failure is the most common type of failure or issue that you face on a bike? Would that not mean that a tire failing would be arguably more common than even a crank that the manufacturer has deemed potentially hazardous? If a tire unseats from a rim, or if you have a blowout while going 40mph, you're done either way. Shines a different light on the question of whether or not you'd still ride a bike with a recalled crankset.

    35. ArtfulCodgers on

      I have two affected cranks on my bikes, and both look fine to me (I used to be a bike mechanic).
      I bought my bikes in Denver CO (very dry), but now I have them in Guizhou China (very humid/rainy), so I’m curious how long until I have the corrosion issues…

    37. Aeronwor on

      I have spares on all the bikes in the family. But not the pump, we only have 3 small pumps and one track pump in the house.
      Just tried CX and it is awesome, to save my tech and maximum fun I went single speed.

    38. Neil Bedwin on

      I have three bikes I ride regularly – a mountain bike, a gravel bike and a road bike made out of bamboo. Each have their own saddle bag with spares in mainly because no bike is tubeless so I have the right size innertube in the right saddle bag to fit the bike. One of the bike is 10 speed, two are 11 speed so I also need a different quick link for the chain. Having a saddle bag on each bike means they are ready to use and I can just grab one and go…..

    39. Bike Theperson on

      I've got a separate set of spares for each bike, makes everything a bit easier in my opinion. To be fair, I only have three bikes, so it's not as if I have 20 mini pumps.

    40. Robert Eastwood on

      Class action suit is a hobby in the US. Always questionable. On the other hand if they're confident in their product they(Shimano) ought to be willing to pay for mishaps and claims.

    41. Jon Goerke on

      Love the show, keep it up!Regarding gearing. I have a specialized diverge with Shimano GRX 11 speed Di2.
      I swapped out the rear cassette for an aftermarket eThirteen 9–46. This required a free hub body change. I have a 1×38 on the front to get the right gear range I needed for steep dirt hills here in California. The 9 tooth cog helps me hang with my road buddies on pavement. My legs do give out eventually if they go at it too long 😅I’ve taken this bike with me all over the world and love the range. That said … I still love dialing in just that right gear on my road bike which is a 2×11 36/52 11-34. Climb anything, still go fast. For all the abuse my Gravel bike goes through, love the 1 by.

    42. BywayOrTheHighway on

      from a bmx household me and the kids … we have several hand pumps as we cant seem to find a decent one even the park tool one seems crap but mayb we are using them wrong somehow LOOOOOOOOOOOOL so yeah we have 1 per bike but dont mean to ! at the stage where we are going to buy one of those big pumps which u put your feet on and pump as most of the pumps just dont do the job lool bushy park is hampton sides and u got home park and then richmond park near ham where we bmx at teddington lock but need funding finding it hard to find the charity they used many yrs ago

    43. Andrew E on

      I've not been affected directly by the Shimano crank recall. Yet. It's not the need for the recall itself, but Shimano's response to it, which means I'll buy another brand of groupset next time.

    45. Tarek Wöhncke on

      Just du clarify, as of my knowledge Pon Holdings does not own the VW (with Audi, Seat), they do Selling, Service and more for those brands in some regions like the Netherlands. Actually VW own 49% of BMS one of Pon Holdings companys.

    48. Bobby Boucher on

      34:05 Nope, I’m cheap

      1 set for all my bikes. Not individual sets for each bike.
      I don’t find it difficult as I have trained myself to “clock in for work” for 15-30 minutes after every ride, mindset wise
      That way I can just grab the saddle bag, or my backpack depending on what I’m doing and just go

      It’s annoying to do at times coz you just want to relax or whatever but it’s well worth it

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