This type of elitism happens in almost every outdoor oriented activity or sport – climbing, surfing, skiing/snowboarding… These people like to think they’re counter culture and more accepting than others, but as soon as people get to a position to gatekeep that attitude flips.
tailOfTheWhale on
A lot of these content creators make their living off other peoples work, speaking from experience in Santa Cruz, they show up, film trails that the trail builders would prefer not to have on the internet and blow shit out, they don’t dig and they don’t contribute back to the communities they are making money off of, I’m not saying don’t make some fun videos with you and your friends in the woods but this dude is looking at analytics and poaching trails for his gain, not everyone is like that but a lot are and they feel entitled to do whatever they want where ever
northeaststeeze on
I mean I agree with some of the gist of Henry’s thoughts on “content creators” because there is so much redundancy among them, and in a sense they are kind of wasting people’s time. Like you have that paul the punter guy who is both bad at riding bikes and also not willing to go out of his comfort zone or try new things. Yet he is sponsored by scott and whatever other companies, absolutely baffling. If people are watching it then I understand why companies support them, but “content creators” do seem to progressively lower the bar.
Arguably the worst part is how many people seem to think watching videos will make them better at biking. Instead of riding bikes people are watching tutorial videos made by people who don’t even know what they are doing.
Which ties into the irony of the PB quotes from this video. PB puts out so much low-effort content for novice riders, it’s crazy they don’t see they are the pot calling the kettle black. All of their “skills” videos take 10 years to poorly explain something people are better off just learning themselves through the feel of riding a bike.
Nightshade400 on
So lets get this straight, you want pro level riding, filming and editing only? If you were that good as a pro then why aren’t you still riding pro? Could it be because most pro riders don’t make shit in actual money until you get to the top 3% on average?
I get it, people want to see top quality riding and editing, but that is a journey to get to that point so wouldn’t filming that journey be interesting on some level and a lot more relatable than , “Today I am going to ride the Redbull hardline and make it look too easy”
CountZero2022 on
Henry has an interesting personality. He does not seem to be a great rider. Matt Beer on the other hand is a fantastic rider with a dry affect (which I enjoy).
It’s sad to see Pinkbike kicking down. Pinkbike was more fun in the days when Mike Levy was there, laughing at himself. Levy never seemed to think he was better than anyone else.
Ryan, Loam Ranger, is a good dude.
AcceptableAd7402 on
As someone who has been coaching the next generation of riders for the past 4 years and has been racing for 7 I couldn’t agree more. The elitism is so cringe, there’s always going to be someone better than you. I still want to see your content and your progression. So many of the kids I taught are picking up sponsors now and I get to feel like I had a small part in their progression. I don’t even log onto pb anymore because of this shit. I upload my own stuff on here now because I feel I get a much more wide array of non elitists that just enjoy mtb. Good for you pointing out this shitty mindset.
catfishburglar on
Meanwhile 98% of Pinkbike “content” is paid for. Which is fine. However, in my mind, the poorly-disguised advertisements they produce are just as valuable as the shaky footage from a chest-mounted Go Pro pointed too far down to see anything on a stoked 12 year old Welsh lad who just cleared his first tabletop.
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Pinkbike hates this Community.
This type of elitism happens in almost every outdoor oriented activity or sport – climbing, surfing, skiing/snowboarding… These people like to think they’re counter culture and more accepting than others, but as soon as people get to a position to gatekeep that attitude flips.
A lot of these content creators make their living off other peoples work, speaking from experience in Santa Cruz, they show up, film trails that the trail builders would prefer not to have on the internet and blow shit out, they don’t dig and they don’t contribute back to the communities they are making money off of, I’m not saying don’t make some fun videos with you and your friends in the woods but this dude is looking at analytics and poaching trails for his gain, not everyone is like that but a lot are and they feel entitled to do whatever they want where ever
I mean I agree with some of the gist of Henry’s thoughts on “content creators” because there is so much redundancy among them, and in a sense they are kind of wasting people’s time. Like you have that paul the punter guy who is both bad at riding bikes and also not willing to go out of his comfort zone or try new things. Yet he is sponsored by scott and whatever other companies, absolutely baffling. If people are watching it then I understand why companies support them, but “content creators” do seem to progressively lower the bar.
Arguably the worst part is how many people seem to think watching videos will make them better at biking. Instead of riding bikes people are watching tutorial videos made by people who don’t even know what they are doing.
Which ties into the irony of the PB quotes from this video. PB puts out so much low-effort content for novice riders, it’s crazy they don’t see they are the pot calling the kettle black. All of their “skills” videos take 10 years to poorly explain something people are better off just learning themselves through the feel of riding a bike.
So lets get this straight, you want pro level riding, filming and editing only? If you were that good as a pro then why aren’t you still riding pro? Could it be because most pro riders don’t make shit in actual money until you get to the top 3% on average?
I get it, people want to see top quality riding and editing, but that is a journey to get to that point so wouldn’t filming that journey be interesting on some level and a lot more relatable than , “Today I am going to ride the Redbull hardline and make it look too easy”
Henry has an interesting personality. He does not seem to be a great rider. Matt Beer on the other hand is a fantastic rider with a dry affect (which I enjoy).
It’s sad to see Pinkbike kicking down. Pinkbike was more fun in the days when Mike Levy was there, laughing at himself. Levy never seemed to think he was better than anyone else.
Ryan, Loam Ranger, is a good dude.
As someone who has been coaching the next generation of riders for the past 4 years and has been racing for 7 I couldn’t agree more. The elitism is so cringe, there’s always going to be someone better than you. I still want to see your content and your progression. So many of the kids I taught are picking up sponsors now and I get to feel like I had a small part in their progression. I don’t even log onto pb anymore because of this shit. I upload my own stuff on here now because I feel I get a much more wide array of non elitists that just enjoy mtb. Good for you pointing out this shitty mindset.
Meanwhile 98% of Pinkbike “content” is paid for. Which is fine. However, in my mind, the poorly-disguised advertisements they produce are just as valuable as the shaky footage from a chest-mounted Go Pro pointed too far down to see anything on a stoked 12 year old Welsh lad who just cleared his first tabletop.