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and so you see these codes that I called they look like a mini dress or they looks like they look like a ladies dress well they look like a PE what we used to call a PE jacket a PE coat a PE coat but a long PE but a long PE coat I know it doesn’t make sense not one and not the other and then and then when you look at the basic architecture of the Garment right it’s basically like they take a double breasted jacket and they just sort of give it length from a design standpoint where design and Overcoat the bottom stance right is lower y it’s dropped yes course yes so it’s not a a jacket with sort of an extended squirt to it no a coat is different and so when I see a lot of this coats uh what you what they call overcoats right that basically someone takes a double breasted pattern double breasted jacket pattern and just sort of lengthens it and say oh we have an Overcoat no wrong you don’t have an overcook what you have is sort of is a double rested jacket masquerading as a coat

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  1. Brother, your designs aren’t anything special either lol.

    It’s bordering costume. It’s not even a real throwback or inspo from the 30s and 40s. It just seems like a caricature. There are tailors who are artisans who you continue to degrade. Which is wild to me. Cifonelli, Rubinacci, Henry Poole, even Tom Ford RTW make a superior coat to you guys. They balance shape and silhouette masterfully.

    You’re cuttting a box with mild tapering and putting letterbox pockets on stuff to make it seem like you know design. Really duping a lot of folks.

  2. Honestly, who cares? Fashion is about self-expression. We’re not all going to like the same styles, and that’s okay. Things change with every generation. Pea coat, overcoat, whatever you want to call it…if you look good in it, that’s all that really matters. It’s all in the eye of the beholder, and maybe those you’d like to behold you back, lol.

  3. Yes, exactly. The term “overcoat” historically implies length and purpose. The longer hem wasn’t just a style choice; it was thermal geometry. A long coat traps a column of warm air around your legs, creating a personal microclimate. It was for the man who walks through winter, not the man who steps from a heated hallway to a heated car.

    Then the automobile arrived. And the car coat swaggered in.

    The car coat said:
    “No need for cavalry-length hems anymore. We are seated, not marching. Let’s avoid bunching, rumpling, and sleeve strangulation. Let’s keep things mobile.”

    So:
    • Overcoat = long, formal, meant for the street and cold.
    • Car coat = shorter, practical, made to move, and yes, more casual.

    The above-the-knee coats I have? They fall right in the land of the car coat / field coat / topcoat family:
    • Sleeker silhouette.
    • Effortless for everyday wear.
    • Suggests “I am warm, but I am also going somewhere.” I spend most of winter moving from car to building, not wandering wind-blown boulevards like a Victorian banker. The long overcoat is theatre. The car coat is for daily life, but with style.

    The beauty part:
    A long overcoat adds gravitas.
    A car coat adds natural ease.

    And my wardrobe leans toward that calm, composed, quietly masterful look where nothing tries too hard. So yes. The car coat is very me.

  4. Where I live it never gets cold enough to wear a true overcoat. I own one and I get to wear it maybe once every winter…so the mini dress it is…and it keeps me plenty warm…🤣

  5. What minidress? What nonsense is he talking about?
    The coat I see him wearing has broad shoulders, like a woman's jacket and it gives it a retro feel

  6. There are 2 sides to it. The overcoat was a functional garment once that protected people from extreme cold. People stayed in the outdoors longer and indoor heating in public buildings wasn't good. Nowadays such a garment isn't largely needed for its earlier function so other fashion variants have emerged that draw from the original. So this is the story.

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