My new bike day post got different reactions in r/bikeporn, some where positive but some quite harsh. roughly 66% said awful, 33% liked it with some concerns.
The frame is 3d printed steel, the bike got a mahle x20 motor, sram rival axs. The pictures are not the best and the frame protection was a late night job, have to redo that one later. The reflective stuff is mandatory in Germany, so please ignore it.
by Bergamottenbommel
27 Comments
Yes. It’s really that terrible
As long as you’re happy with it: have fun; cycle the s**t out of it. May not be their pair of shoes, but why should it matter.
Unusual designs look alien to most people.
I don’t get why anyone would hate on it unless they had one and had a bad experience. I’m curious about frame rigidity and such, but it looks pretty interesting.
If it makes you happy and meets your needs, cool, 🤘 on.
I’m a bigger guy and I would be afraid to ride that bike.
It’s terrific. I find the geometry funny and cute.
stop caring about what reddit or anyone else thinks, go out and ride your bike. nothing else matters.
Ride that puppy into the ground! Have fun … it is yours.
[This title tho](https://www.reddit.com/r/BicyclingCirclejerk/s/d815pwGwD8)
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How do you carry water?
Does it work? Do you like it? Seems like you would be the best judge of whether it is horrible or not.
Is this a custom / self-made frame? I’d be curious to hear more about 3d printed steel frames. I have to assume those are usually prohibitively expensive, but its interesting for sure.
Second question is what was the motivation?
And then how much does the frame weigh?
My initial reaction of the bike
1. Interesting / neat appearance. Definitely a conversation starter.
2. Abandoning the seat tube means you’re losing the traditional strength of the triangle supports. Presumably that is made up for elsewhere. Does it allow for extra flex without breaking? That could be nice from that perspective, especially for a gravel bike.
3. The paint job makes it feel more like a knock off. If its being used to demo the frame / manufacturing technique I’d work on the visual appeal of the end product. If its just for your personal use then who cares.
4. The truncating of the seat tube means less seat height adjustment and potentially limited options for dropper seat posts.
5. It also means the loss of a cage mount position.
6. Your hand is also not protected from the rear tire if you’re tired and reaching down for a water bottle. Probably doesn’t actually matter, but I wouldn’t mount anything to close to the rear.
It’s a nice bike. Is it a good looking bike? No.
r/bikeporn are small-minded elitists, so are a portion of users on most other hobby-related subs. I like unusual frames, and ultimately as long as you enjoy your bike all is well.
That said I’m also German, I refuse to put reflectors on my gravel bike, and I’ve never gotten bothered about it. Then again I only ride in good daytime weather and with brightly colored jerseys.
Seems like it would flex way too much
Wrong sub.
r/ebikes
Not horrible… different. How much flex is on the frame, is it considered a hard tail. I like it kinda funky
Interesting, hope its safe/durable though.
I am not sure I understand the reasoning behind the frame design and it certainly looks different. That being said, I have a strong distaste for gatekeeping within cycling.
Any bike you like to ride (and that is safe for purpose) is a good bike
I think it’s cool, but I like weird bikes. I’ll be honest though, it looks like it rides like a wet noodle. Slap a front rack on there and try r/xbiking if it’s approval that you seek.
I like things that are different and makes people upset because it doesn’t conform to the rules
I’ll try and give you a real answer here.
Is your bike horrible? Well… maybe. Why do I say that? Because throughout cycling history, every, single, frame/bike, that has attempted to move away from the dual triangle design of a bicycle, has failed. All of them. Not one brand or builder, has successfully designed a bike that is *better* than a dual triangle frame. Not one. They have all failed. And, this has been happening for *decades*. Its like every 2-5 years a brand or builder pops up thinking they can reinvent the bicycle, and just as quickly as they pop up, they fail.
This is likely an example of this trend. This company will go out of business in a few years, or within the year, and/or they will stop production of this model, and revert back to a dual triangle design. Its just how it goes.
Sure, maybe the bike is sound, but the fact of the matter is the majority of consumers don’t believe it is. Your posts are evidence enough of that sentiment.
What the majority of the cycling world sees in this bike, is a bike that was designed by a marketing department, not engineers or actual cyclists. Therefor, they won’t be buying, and the bike, design, brand, company, will fail. Its happened over and over again.
The reality is, this is a design we’ve seen before, and we’ve all seen it fail, more than once.
I would just be concerned about safety considering the lack of complete triangles in the frame.
What kind of testing has been done?
I think it looks cool, and I love the matte paint.
I think the designers are being pussies. They could have done without the top tube too.
Brother, don’t let all these people tell you anything! 😀 I also have one of these gems and love riding it every mile.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gravelcycling/s/jYl1fRqcjo
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I think this looks dope, and you know what? You shouldn’t even care what *I* (or anyone else) thinks. Enjoy your bike!