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  1. Gravel= non competitive cyclo-cross but 10x the price and fragility.
    Bike packing= touring+ gravel but 10x the luggage cost (i used to think £100 for ortleib or caradice was excessive lol)
    What i don't understand is with the public at peak gullibility, they're still going out of business, i appreciate looking at the engineering though so thanks.

  2. I have Canyon Grail On CF 7 Ebke. Excellent quality and totally fun to ride. I have to resist the urge to put in Turbo and go 28 mph. I do try to get a workout when I ride.

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