Bridie O’Donnell and Simon Gerrans of the SBS commentary team break down where Vingegaard took time in some of the crucial corners on Staeg 16 of the 2023 Tour de France.
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There's no doubt JV handled this course better, but it only saved him maybe 20-30 seconds. The rest was raw power and aerodynamics… mostly raw power. suspiciously high power.
Some special vitamins perhaps 🤔😉
rider. Marginal gains and the of course the power house himself…Vingegaard simply overpowered Pogacar that day…
Its sad to see so many people accusing Vingegaard of doping. You are innocent until proven otherwise + jumbo have prepared this TT for 7 months, so he is both probably better prepared for this, but he also has more energy in the 3rd week than many others including Pogacar which we sees next day were he loses 5 min.
How can it be, that Jonas was nearly 3 mins faster than Wout??? 😳Wout is the best TT rider😳
😅 DOPE….
Carrying water for a transparently ridiculous performance. Nobody wants to go back to the LA era of cycling but to expect people to buy that this guy can put almost 3 minutes on WVA and 1.5 on TP in such a short TT beggars belief. I’ll wait for it to all blow up in the next 5 years. This is as ridiculous as Floyd Landis’ 06 stage 17 win. They should have had a code word for “don’t make it look so obvious, pull back” but they forgot that part. Whatever you’re main lining at least you know it works 👍🏻
This was a masterclass in bike handling.
I never noticed Pogacar was a bad bike handler, but he probably isn't that bad; it's just that Vingegaard is really, really good and it shows here.
Hahaha….where he gained time? The whole way. Jonas was faster from the ramp to the finish.
My question is, where were these world-best abilities? Jonas began racing at age 12. He kept his talents hidden well.
"Its not done yet" – Yeah it was…. ;o)
That Revstar could easily replace my Les Paul Special. Only thing is… Yamaha isn't sexy in the electric guitar world, sadly. I have a Yamaha acoustic, and it's a really really good guitar. It stays in tune for absolutely ever. Weeks on end even
Taking that first turn fast was risky. The three early riders who crashed there would agree.
You can see the hunger in his legs
Actually, the main reason is that Vingegaard was faster 😉 . he won because he was faster in the curves, was pushing the pedals with much more power… That's a good explanation
this was great, I'm sure there is a lot more SImon and Bridie could have added to this analysis
What ugly accent is this
On the roof of the Jumbo Team Car.
literaly everywhere
come on, 20 sek. of adds for 2 min of contendt 👎
Pogi ran like the road was wet
Nobody is talking about the herpes infection of Pogacar which can be seen on videos before the time trial. This could have caused a severe drop of his performance but you are talking about doping…
All pretty cool but this only explains around 30 seconds in the descent and 30 seconds in the bike change. Considering Pogacar saved more energy in the descent he should have been faster or at least on par in the rest of the time trial. That didn't happen. And that's why I can't buy that Vingegaard was racing clean
Thanks for breaking it down. What an achievement by Vingegaard and TJV, and what a tremendous day for cycling it was! It was such a privilege to watch.
Wut?!?
Biggest time gain? Extra syringe with his breakfast probably!!
So we're not gonna talk about the watts/kilo on the final climb, ehh?
Perfect analysis! Thank you.
You should share your analysis with french journalists ; they are all talking about doping.
He didnt win time on the corners, he won time at the breakfast table juicing to his gills.
My own experience of TTs is on the day you either are on fire or you are not. Vinegaard clearly was burning hot like never before. Pogacar by the fact he free wheeled downhill must have been feeling a little off colour if he felt he needed to conserve energy over 22kms
Feliz por Vinge, Pogacar esta probando que donde juega 1 pueden jugar 2 con sus mismos métodos 🇲🇽
I think Pog and UAE need to realise they have to completely focus on the TDF if they ever want to win again. Jumbo and especially Vingegaard are a step above at the moment, so Pog can't keep trying to win these classic races if he wants to win the TDF.
the short answer would be 'everywhere'
To the doping fanboys. Its not Armstrong, Vingegaard is clearly not doping or threatening his way to the top. If you think you can do better than Vingegaard, why dont you hop on the bike and show us?
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Il bombarolo del tour..la reincarnazione di Armstrong…uno che arriva dopo una cronometro dove gli specialisti all'arrivo stramazzano stanchissimi..lui arriva neppure sudato…bombe a gogò.
I just found this video 3 weeks after the end of TDF and am very happy to see such a comparison, while mainly most main-media jumped on the doping-train reproaches, here is a very physical explanation. Together with all the technical improvements on the bikes, the eating-strategies, etc. it creates a complete different picture.Thank you.
Man’s taking two seconds every bend
Thx for the sumup, no dout that Vingegaard took this timetrial with an aggresive attitude, was clear from the get-go, and I reckon that aggressiveness took some of the motivation out of Pogacar when he got the first data where Vingegaard already was way ahead as it was only seconds between them before the stage..
I saw some pictures of Vingegaard after the finishline and the attitude in his face was fasciating, dang he looked a wild viking, and like somebody had snatched his contact mobile to his wife and daughter. 😉
Nope, impressive time trial from Vingegaard, but lets be honest it was also expected and we have seen it in 3 years now that Vingegaard is simply just stronger then Pogacar in the third week and over and over placed him on the big mountains in that latter week.
2021 he was a helper for Roglich and lost like +5 minutes in the first week(s) trying to help Roglich and still managed P2.. 2022 he won and was the strongest, again third week class, and again in 2023, way better in the third week, where Pogacar sadly cracked..
I like Pogacar, but Vingegaard is the best stage race rider these years and also why he for a long time been nr1 ranked on UCI stagerace ranking list with most points, im just gratefull that we got thse two grand tours behemoths, and not just 1, as that would be boring when these two are so much in a league of their own.
Impressive historical time trial, that will be remembered, and that other teams will try to mirror, as it was a great study in perfect balance between risk & potential, though maybe too much risk for the defending champ in the yellow jersey here in the latter half of the TdF??
but as a spectator' I do love risktaking & reaching for the moon..