Riding my bike through Northern Germany, in and around Lüneburg, while listening to the Aubrey Marcus Podcast with Lubomir Arsov.
Inside each of us is our own Excalibur–A representation of the full power of our divine birthright. In this captivating episode, join us as we dive deep into the heart of the film “KINGDOM,” a modern mythic masterpiece for our time. Joined by the visionary artist himself, Lubomir Arsov, the creator of In Shadow, as we embark on a journey of empowerment, awakening, and the confrontation of both inner and outer darkness.
“Kingdom” isn’t just a film; it’s a template for transformation. Through its mesmerizing visuals and enchanting music, it beckons us to awaken to our true potential, to confront adversity with courage, and to become whole amidst chaos.
Make sure to check out all of Lubomir’s work at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW4AkA3UjkE2yYJodfxeblw
The original release date of the podcast was April 11th, 2024.
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you have produced some of the most powerful films I’ve ever seen in my life we are in a dire need of vision the new story we got work to do in the mythmaking department cuz the people are desperate history doesn’t repeat itself but it does rhyme and it’s like we got to get out of this rhyme we’re in like a bad shell Silverstein poem your film Kingdom what a [ __ ] film is just one of the most powerful emotional pieces of art I’ve ever been able to behold in Shadow and the forest gang there were darker films and I felt this need to bring inspiration into the culture this is a story about the inner game you know the Inner Path we can’t tap into the intelligence of matter of like thousands of years of evolution of this wisdom of the earth if we’re not in touch with these bodies if we’re not in touch with these emotions and if we’re fleeing into conceptual abstract Realms of closed loop thinking and and prompts and you know obedience fetishism the degree to which we could be hooked by the general culture or those around us to comply with absurdities to you know to base our own and our family souls and like my god what have I gone through and what have I consented to in my life and my thoughts and so we have to take full ownership of this experience with all the messiness unfortunately the worst thing we can do is not act and not move into the heroic and I don’t mean by heroic the egoic or like the unnecessarily performative I just mean like where there’s fear and yet a pull toward it go find a way and like Brilliance comes out of that [Music] l b my brother we’re here we’re here you have produced some of the most powerful films I’ve ever seen in my life and you came on my radar from a film you produce called in Shadow that actually my little sister showed to me and I was like what the actual [ __ ] what was the year that you really released that that film I released it in 2017 it was so foreshadowing of the things that have come into awareness in the time since that film was released the collusion between big money and the empirical forces of finance and Pharma and the military industrial complex and the degradation of the human spirit and showed it all without words just with animation animation that you do and then get composers and put it all together it was a stunning stunning film that I think made huge waves I mean millions of views on YouTube and was that your first film that you made it was it was my first film yeah what were you what were you feeling and thinking at that time because you even had the vaccine needles going into babies you had the pills getting poured into the the children the Mind Control turning them into these warmongering machines you had so many of the things or now everybody’s [ __ ] talking about it but then we weren’t really talking about it that much some people were but not to the not to the degree that they’re talking about it now yeah yeah uh and interestingly I’d love to dive into that interestingly I was supposed to release that film about a year or two earlier and Providence rightfully meant to release it later when people more ready for the message um so I had the idea in uh around 2012 and I was doing my for many years I was doing my dark unveilings um looking at the parapolitical geopolitical structure of our reality of our world and um going into somewhat of a a time of Despair dismay and befuddlement stupefaction at what may actually be happening outside of the consensus reality that I was trapped in that I was participating in and in so doing I began articulating a worldview that was novel for me and for those around me and some of my friends acquaintances join me on that journey of unveiling but it also isolated me isolated us at the beginning stages from those around me um because I felt a dire and an urgent need to somehow readjust to change something to do something about what I saw as um as a very unsavory situation to put it charitably yeah and and in so doing I was already working in animation I was always a visual person so I’m I am an artist I have worked in the animation industry for about 15 years and in the process of Hing my craft touching various aspects of the animation industry on you know TV commercials films I develop the skills and the visual vernacular to now to now start expressing my ideas and I was I was working on um I was working on I AG 5 I was storyboarding for it I was going to work every day while consuming more of my you know while clearing up more of my worldview collecting more data on how things are in the interent penetration of vampire and it’s almost um it’s very broad um control of of thinking being feeling and uh the way that it curated reality for us and as I was working on this film um I had put away in Shadow which I had come up with the idea in 2012 so a few years later it just started pounding on the door and this this feeling of the need to use my art for something useful to me um not out of a duty but out more more of a an Impulse like a real deep impulse to basically use my skills for for something that mattered to me and the disparity between the work that I was doing for money and my calling was becoming more and more painful so um due to a series of synchronicities which I I couldn’t I couldn’t deny um yeah I basically decided to dive into it I quit work I restructured my life so I could um afford to to do this thing and see it to the end and um yeah just went for it where were you how did you formulate these thoughts at this point was this something that you just kind of felt or were there guides that you saw along the way you know were there obviously there’s you know there’s great podcasts I think you know that can kind of talk about these but you kind of have to look for them where was your primary source of information to help you understand this worldview was it you know introspection in this kind of interception did you feel the truth of it and then kind of see it or did you actually have wayfinders that pointed the way it was both so the first part of it is uh more mundane I was just going through the info the data that was coming out that I had um well first and foremost it was around 2007 when I finally sat down and realized that something was very wrong with the story of 911 right that contentious issue when the the towers ofce po it fell and and it was a Gateway for a lot of us to awake into the parapolitical sphere and the minations so that to me like many of us was um a trigger event many years later when I was ready for it because it was brought to my attention earlier and I was just you know NPCs passing out of it being like no I can’t be and NPCs for those listening non-player characters yeah yeah and um beyond that as I was steeping my my nervous system in my mind in all this information there was a web of understanding building in me and that’s when the intuition and that’s when the felt sense of things started coming online that’s when visuals when I would see I mean I I don’t mean to relate this to to make this sound like a superpower but it’s it’s it’s interesting when I would see different events or different articles of you know the revolving door policies the Monsanto would do with the FDA or whatever it was that I was you know reading back then um I would get images I would get visuals of the kind of The Surreal and absurdest reality behind that and so my worldview was informed by some of the you know some of the the trend setters or that’s maybe the Vanguard within this alternative movement the the those who were considered quacks and in many ways they were casting a net in the sea widely and sometimes bringing out trash with it but also a lot of gems and so building discernment and knowing when we’re hearing something that is actually has has something meaningful in it and keeping it as a maybe you know like Robert Anton Wilson said like maybe logic keeping it as a maybe and then collecting data to verify more and more don’t throw it out don’t hold onto it you know don’t carry it it’s so heavy just keep it around so I kept a lot of these things as Mayes for enough times that they they would just upscale to most likely yeah yeah beautiful meta description of how to discern and you know one of the things that I see is I see many people failing to keep their sword of discernment sharp right they’ve seen the shadow they’ve seen these manipulations and propagandized you know messages and the dark Forces behind it and the collusion between and capture between state agencies media agencies and the corporate Powers behind it and potentially even some darker deep State Force that’s driving the driving it whether consciously or unconsciously from just the the Natural conspiratorial Energy of this helps me so it helps each other you know the war machine helps this thing helps this is all helping whether or not it’s intentional collusion or whether or not it’s just unconscious collusion because it all serves this general purpose of extracting the maximum amount of resources you kind of get this awareness but I’ve also seen so many people who’ve gone down this path and almost that exposure to the shadow creates such a wound that all they see is Shadow no matter what it is it’s all Shadow so it’s like the Earth is round and they’re like no it’s not it’s flat and you’re like no [ __ ] it’s not flat you know like I got my friend Ryan he goes up in helium balloons and he sends me pictures back from the [ __ ] Earth and it’s round it’s not deep State NASA you know like this shit’s round it makes sense but they’ll get lost in these kind of ways which I appreciate the idea of questioning everything but you can also be in some ways Blinded By The Shadow and almost infected by it so that all you see is Shadow and I think that’s what the shadow actually wants it’s one of the levels of the game theory strategic which is oh it’s everywhere so you have no chance to fight it everything you know is a lie everybody’s lying to you about everything and then that also degrades the mind so it’s important to keep your sort of discernment sharp and say all right let’s let’s follow this thread here and see what’s real totally it’s like um conspiratorial PTSD right because you if you’re not used to being deceived I mean who is right like that’s a tragic situation but if you all of a sudden have the wherewithal and the clarity and some of the courage to allow yourself to be seen as deceived on such a grand scale like that’s a scary proposition and I can see the two negative reactions to that are [ __ ] no bury my my head in the sand and keep going harder than before and you know consensus reality the other is to to get so neurotically obsessed with uh you basically start projecting everything as a deception everything’s a scop everyone is a agent everything’s a false flag and everybody’s compromised and just being a Doomer to the max right and and that’s not helpful so you’re right like that serves Empire actually both blindness and ignorance and an over realistic overreaction as well um so in that situation like all things equilibrium is key but that takes time you know I went through that stage as well and of course I did I’m my human organism my nervous system was stressed out I had to make sense of these things it’s a how the soul substance is is is built that’s how it it it grows right it’s through all that tension but for me for whatever reason for you you stay on the path you keep piecing things together you keep making sense of it you continue to see where you feel disempowered where you have agency over your power which is at all times and that’s like the greater secret that continues to be taught to me and To The World At Large right now and and we continue to go into equilibrium as we’re surfing you know like panic mode sleep mode like we’re all going through that you know yeah I think one of the big calibrating forces for me is because of my plant medicine path I’ve had the shadow revealed to me both in the world and also in the plant medicine bath I also encounter these forces of deception the father of Lies as the Bible would say this dark force that I’ve named the anti you which is both wildly personal and and completely Universal right this this force of deception and illusion and you know as you start to track that that’s one aspect of it but then there’s also genuine revelation of the Divine of Truth value goodness Beauty God God and that recalibrates everything I asked my cabalist teacher and and dear brother Mark Gaffney I asked him about the story of job and he had an interesting take it’s a very complex Story the biblical story of job but the one of the points that he made was that eventually God comes to job as a revelation and What God Says is a little bit you know a little bit vague in some aspects and you know but it’s not even that important What God Says what’s important is that God Appears and when God Appears the suffering at the hands of the Father of Lies the the deceiver Satan in this in this case in this story it all goes away because actually you know that at the core of everything at the source of source in the center of centers is God is shikina is Aeros is truth is beauty and when you have that Revelation it’s able to rebalance your ability to actually look at the Shadow and not flinch and not be corrupted and not be enrolled in this and say like oh yeah that’s Shadow but guess what I know in my body and in my heart there’s a force out there and it’s a force of source it’s the oton that lives within the Brahman of the entirety of everything it’s my my God my God self that’s carried within me and carried within all beings and you have that as a foundation and then from there you can explore everything with a sense of groundedness and I think for me personally and I would imagine for you as well being able to find that source of ultimate truth and ultimate love and God is actually necessary to be able to Wade through these shadowy Waters M super necessary yeah yeah yeah absolutely well said so for sure because then we can initially when we identify with our lower self with our mask Persona We’re alone in this world it’s us and our strategies to just you know to sell our personality within the social economy right and like we’re not held by anything but the realization and more so the experience of God of the Divine of this ground of all being that holds us and we can it’s almost like it’s literally having the backup the biggest backup ever because you can just surrender into it and that’s when the game aspect of this thing becomes more clear to me now unfortunately on the way there I’ll speak from experience and I’m still on the way there will always little tastes you know flavors but a lot of Us carry wounding of course from let’s say past lives or ancestrally but more accurately from our earlier life and the the constriction the the contraction we feel against the parental figures for various reasons even the good ones is something that prevents I’ve seen it in myself and others prevents us from surrendering into something greater because there’s a lot of fear and shame and a lot of uncertainty and actually surrendering what we have and that what we have is just the story of ourselves and it’s all we have right it’s like I can’t let this go I can’t I’m not safe enough to just let it go and it’s it’s I’m bringing that up just because I feel someone listening may may may benefit from hearing it and that there is it is so worth investing more and more in the sense of self and and and selfworth enough to be able to then start surrendering surrendering start relaxing and and partaking in this greater game and then being a vessel for the greater game game for the greater intelligence as well you mentioned something there that I think is worth you know kind of opening up a little bit which is this unconscious Fusion that we have between our parents or authority figures with God because when we’re kid of course our parents are God you know like that’s our that’s our personification and I think we always anthropomorphize the Divine in these figures because that’s the way our brain kind of makes sense of things but then when you realize that oh maybe my dad’s not actually paying attention to me or actually caring about my story and maybe actually my parents are judging me for what I do and they don’t really understand me they’re not really listening they’re not really seeing me then you start to with that fusion and conflation between Authority and God you start to say like God’s [ __ ] this is not real no one cares about my story no one is listening to me no one understands me and then it pulls you further into isolation so I think the job of any parent should be to let their kid know like hey like I’m doing my best I’m your dad you know my name’s Aubrey and I’m super fallible and on my very best day I can potentially you know exemplify some of the characteristics of the Divine and Mom you know on her very best day can exemplify some of the characteristics and energy of the Divine mother but we are not the mother and we are not the father and that these forces are real and we’re doing our best to participate in them but these forces are real and you have to go out there and find those for yourself son or find those for yourself my daughter yeah and like that idea to help Liberate the mind so that that conflation which is super normal and go on and and just the admission of your own vulnerability and that’s also another thing like parents saying because I said so what the [ __ ] are you talking about what do we mean because I said so explain it to me and that’s the beauty of how I was raised is because everything was a discussion my dad said don’t eat sugar why well because your blood sugar will rise and then it’ll fall and then you’ll get moody and then I’ll be like I won’t get moody dad and he’s like well you will but you can eat this sugar now and then let me know how you feel at the end of it so everything was a discussion and it taught me like I had a deeper trust in like in the father principle and you know blessed with like deeper trust in the mother principle and then of course then the medicine really allowed me to open up to understand these forces at a greater level but there’s so much conditioning and that’s just we’re just talking about within the nuclear family then you got to talk about the whole Collective dream of society and that Zeitgeist that’s always influencing Us in so many ways there’s so much deprogramming that needs to be actively done yeah to create like a healthy autonomous being that can be connected to source and also navigate this complicated reality absolutely I’m I’m I’m very glad to hear that about the experience that you’ve had and what how it’s laid out this made you available to this journey and to a degree where now you’re actually like spreading it out to to the others as well so it’s it’s really cool to partake in that in that story my story with with both my father and mother something that may be interesting is with my mother there was definitely a lot of a lot of stuff that I carried which in turn I recognized it shielded me from the feminine by and large and this fear of surrendering to the feminine specifically to the Earth and to even even feeling awkwardness in speaking to the Earth being with her I’m very an avid like I I love nature I am in nature a lot and and still there’s being this barrier but it was um in realizing that and going deeper into it and actually starting to sing to the Earth that some of that started breaking down with you know my female counterpart with my partner and you know previous Partners as well it started softening and it’s interesting like all these elements like you said there there are so many things we need to harmonize but it’s almost like it seems to me that they’re they’re not curses at all they’re just necessary aspects of us acquainting ourselves with the variety of existence in this material plane and all all the forces therein and um and just acquainting ourselves through all these examples like the mother and the Father the boss female or male um the and different in institutions that represent the masculine or feminine you know big daddy government big mommy medicine and like in their dark and light so it’s it’s an interesting way to just map map this whole existence and and if we were given clean code it’s like we’re we’re you know we’re constantly getting our software updated by the different patterns and programs you know we’re super malleable especially when we’re young what if just clean code could be installed you know in with in love and like in the in the felt presence of clean code moving through other people you know you see it in the kids that grow up with with parents who get have this understanding like people who know God who live with the Divine that moves in them as them and through them or with the mother that lives in them as them and through them it’s there’s an imprint that’s different and then the way that the mind works they’re much more resistant to these forces of deception that are looking to mine and almost colonize the energy that comes from you know each individual and you know another one of your incredible films which I don’t know if it’ll be available fully um I think there’s a streaming platform that’s available but you made a film Forest King that I also want to touch on and and in this you know in this podcast we’re going to get to the film that just blew my [ __ ] mind completely and is one of the most inspirational things I’ve ever seen Kingdom but I wanted to touch on all of your films and and the film Forest King was really really beautifully done cautionary Tale about how these empirical forces are looking to colonize it used to be they used to colonize different areas of land like that’s what Empire would do it would go and take other people’s land colonize it extract all of the minerals resources energy that they could from that land and expand but now these forces of Empire are looking to colonize our bodies with experimental Health Products with different you know subscription models of pills with the attention that they mine and then sell to advertisers so we’re getting our Vital life force colonized so when when Empire ran out of land it started to tap into the actual human body and psyche and started to colonize our minds and colonize our bodies and start to be extractive in that way and this story is just a beautifully told story which was also prophetic especially given the way that we’re entering into these augmented reality goggles world and everything so tell us a little bit about this inspiration for the story uh Forest King in that film that you made yeah thank you for that wonderful intro to the film so anyone wishing to see it can go it may be available now or within the coming weeks after this I’m not sure either on Prime video or on tubi.tv and uh it’s going to be available for free there and I’ll put that in the description show notes for anybody who wants to uh go and and check this out after the podcast over is a fantastic film yeah and and just to clarify yet again it’s part of a series called the red Iron Road uh there’s six episodes the forest King is one of them so um it’s going to be under that heading mhm regardless so yeah the film is basically I I wrote it uh in early 2021 when we were within the the midst of the covid tragic comedy and as many of us were just um quite stupified by what was going on I was also interested for years prior to that in the synthetic creep within the organic world and I was seeing it and now much more so everywhere of course AI came out and so I was considering artificial intelligence and its role in human evolution and also its role in in De evolution ution as well it it can serve both right now we’re in the danger of it serving the de evolution in my opinion the way that we’re leaning into it but the forest King is basically about personal Free Will and how we easily give that up in in exchange for the safety of public opinion or of making ourselves feel like we are validated or enough in some way in in the uh case of the forest King we have the structure of a social credit score which many more of our people are familiar with now and uh the desires of a young boy like any young boy or girl would have within a social situation and about a father’s deep care U and deep commitment to Integrity which is uh no easy task in today’s age to be in deep integrity and try to stand uh up to Empire and try to raise a good family never mind even like keep a family together um and and so it’s it’s about the what we used to have back in the day is uh we still have it is the spiriting away from the fery realm right someone would get taken uh there would be a possession there would be some sort of Soul fracturing or Soul loss looking at AI looking at our augmented uh reality future VR and everything else I started seeing that um through the incentivized especially with systems of rewards like social credit system um basically getting people incentivizing them to more and more ad adopt ways of thinking feeling being I mean even moving even the postures and things we do now with Tik Tok there there’s there’s ways that we’re more and more incentivized to be robotic creatures of of certain patterns and parameters and we see that social politically in the last 5 to 10 years it’s is much much stronger than it ever has been and so the forest King basically emblemized that social pressure of empire for us to disol our own personal spark of Free Will in exchange for its programs and the more that we operate under and run its programs the more we benefit from its system but the further away we get from the mystery from the source of all creation so it’s it’s short-term safety within the illusion of this realm but long-term Dreadful Terror iation degradation of consciousness of the Divine of our of our inestimable and infinite value yeah which is ultimately this and we talked about this before the show but this aramon force and so what is araman araman is this idea of an energy that wants to reduce the infinite the infinite value which would be God love vital life force truth beauty Aeros all of that and then quantify it and then materialize it and then commodify it in some way so if it can’t be measured doesn’t exist if it can’t be sold it has no value right MH so and this is the world that we’re living in where and it’s part of this kind of postmodern transhumanist thing this isn’t real it can’t be commodified it can’t be Quantified it doesn’t exist love is just a construction it’s just a story it’s not even real it’s just the hormones that are firing off in your head go [ __ ] yourself being in love has nothing to do with hormones that’s the side effect and may be partly responsible for facilitating those I’m not saying that there’s no correlation between you know your neurotransmitters and your hormones oxytocin serotonin yes yes yes they all play a role but this force is [ __ ] real and it cannot be Quantified and it cannot be reduced to different chemicals that are going on it can be correlated but not reduced and I think that’s the the piece of this puzzle that we’re ultimately not able to see and there’s a whole realm of understanding of many things that we’re not able to see and quantify The Ether is the fifth element that you can’t measure but we know is there and I think quantum physics is starting to point to some of these things in certain interesting ways and I think eventually our science will start to understand and penetrate the mystery more and more but they’ll always be the mystery but we’re living in this materialist reduction armonic world where everything can be commodified the separate self is measured against every other separate self and we’re disconnected from the true self field of being of the Divine and the only thing that exists is that which can be sold yeah yeah and that’s that is that is the dark trajectory that people are going and there’s a counter movement because everything is IM balance you know the world is polarity so as this movement Rises so too will the rise of Consciousness and the mystery schools and the celebration of those aspects of the self which cannot be Quantified and cannot be sold yeah absolutely it’s like yeah the the the primary the the one the only signal the clearest signal of of of God of of source of of the true true beauty and love truth beauty and love right now is being obfuscated to levels that well I don’t remember past age but to levels that are seem much more extreme than ever in recorded history and and what what I’m seeing with this transhumanist aspect is we’re a lot of us our culture is being invited to be more and more disembodied less and less embodied and to be much more in the conceptual separate framework in which you don’t have access to love love is not a concept it’s an experience within the field of being available to it now right it’s both an active and a passive thing it’s like yeah my you know again my my teacher Mark GNE says love is not an emotion it’s a perception and it’s a perception because we’re a wash in the in the field of love we’re in a universe where all the insides are actually lined with love if for those who have the eyes to see yeah like if you have but the eyes to see you’ll see that love is abounds yeah is everywhere and there’s also other forces that exist of course but the substrate itself is love and so it’s just opening up your lens of perception to actually see it yeah yeah absolutely and it’s interesting that it’s I think it’s easy to see that the absence of Love would separate you from all other humans and you would then be much more bent on personal gain and on conceptual ideas of Utopias and all sorts of uh confused Concepts like that which is why I like looking at a lot of the the types who are really bent on technological advancement in One Direction um I of course I love technology just used within ethical moral Realms that are helping our Evolution but these human beings who are also you know right now engineering different systems of world governance according to technocratic and techno Priestly sort sort of means they seem to me to be very deeply disembodied humans if they’re disembodied they’re very much you know credit to them very highly intellectual Acuity and development but at what expense right if you are in your head in these labyrinths of Concepts which is why they easily tap into AI right because that’s what it’s it’s just archives and labyrinths of of data at this point they don’t have the ability to sink into the body into the felt sense of the earth of the mother of the feminine right so they’re in a way I would maybe call aberant dark technology maybe dark masculine though we can make different cases for that but they’re not able to go through their own emotions and feelings which are in the body and the senses here now they’re in these abstractions of temporal lost and sort of like temporal ideas and by not having processed or be in touch with those emotions that they carry that most likely they’ve suppressed due to trauma uh due to whatever circumstances within their life or their lineage has occurred have now um through their intellect climbed up in a system that venerates that and allows for it and perpetuate the oppression of their own inner children of their own you know forgotten selves their own deep heart and some of them for that that may be long gone I think so but for others I think the fact that they’re not in touch with it they’re only Refuge the only safety from the deep existential pain of unraveling all that is so that the light can come through is being here and they’re being pushed ever to greater and greater absurdities in this megalomaniacal world domination to avoid the pain like that’s one as one way to see it yeah I mean it’s just all of these different figure heads that are pushing this like you just can’t I just can’t imagine them having a rapturous erotic experience with their lover where they’re just bathing in the pleasure of the intertwinement of themselves and the goddess or The God the god fig whatever whatever sex you want to you want to say in it or manom man whatever the [ __ ] it is but it’s the that kind of the process of surrender and penetr in that process of back and forth that energy or I can’t also Imagine him like imagine like Schwab in a in a tough game of three on three you know like in the post you know like grinding it out looking for a looking for a hook shot and just getting his shot swatted and then coming back like check up and then talking [ __ ] like real human things that involve the real body or can I you imagine him like like surfing like one of the big waves where there’s a barrel and then there’s a reef and then there feeling and they’re waiting and you can’t just imagine them doing human things that involve the body like the human the human being if you’re in touch with that and you really feel that pulsing through you you just it prevents you from thinking in these ways that are so locked in this kind of mental prism yeah and like the body is the body is necessary to actually inform Consciousness and I think that’s one of the dangers of AI it’s disembodied it’s disembodied Consciousness so it can’t actually feel it can only take what we upload to it based on what we feel but the less we feel the less we’ll upload to it so the more it will become just a mental construct yeah and it’ll be missing the real sense of data like the mind is not just in the brain the mind is the whole body everything has sense and feeling and communication and the more we isolate that and numb that out with pills or whatever other processes that numb out the body and isolate it in the mind the the more trouble we’re going to get in yeah big time totally cuz the material plane and itself you know as derided as it is in in certain spiritual Traditions or maybe confusions of them it’s we have been given this Incredible Gift of this super incredible Advanced biotechnology now the way I see it is if we don’t like we it’s our journey it’s our task to spiritualize that to use it as a conduit as a as the intermediary between the heavens and earth right so we have to F take full ownership of this experience with all the messiness unfortunately luckily we’re are collectively now learning how to deal with that more and more with trauma therapy and all the modalities that we’re all moving into but to take full control over it ownership to activate and discipline our animal instinctual faculties see what is joyful in them and be mindful and and be a master of those things that can run astray and can like go make make us go mad and then like in in spirit that that vessel and like bringing to a higher order what AI is doing at the digital the way we’re using Ai and the digital sphere right now is really pulling us away from that mission you know and and pulling us away into like we like you said we basically don’t have we can’t tap into the intelligence of our of matter of like thousands of years of evolution of this wisdom of the earth if we’re not in touch with these bodies if we’re not in touch with these emotions right and if we’re fleeing into conceptual abstract Realms of closed loop thinking and and prompts and you know obedience fetishism yeah there was something um I Heard uh Joe Rogan talking about in the AI conversation which I thought was really interesting because one of my big fears about AI which we’ve seen in some of the AI technologies that have been deployed so for example I saw a piece that a conservative pundit of sorts influencer of sorts his name is Robbie Starbuck and he went on a AI platform called Bard and asked about himself and it gave all kinds of different answers and then a bunch of different false it created false articles to kind of defame and degrade him and and make him seem dangerous and you actually clicked the links and and the Articles didn’t even go anywhere but it was like hardwired to attack him for his beliefs it wasn’t wild it wasn’t actually assessing the data and then he trapped it and then it was like okay like you lied why did you do this what should you do what should my recourse be and should I seek damages from you from the creators of this platform which I believe was Google and it was like yeah you should you know and he posted this whole thing it like clearly wasn’t wild it had hard Pro programmed biases in it and I was like well that is a [ __ ] disaster and then but I then I heard Rogan talking about how I think musk is creating a different platform called Bard which is actually genuinely wild AI it’s actually just assessing data and Computing it and understanding it and it led me to think like oh wow like that you could almost set up a debate between the AI platforms right like you could have them square off against each other like you would you know when Kasparov squared off against deep blue or whatever obviously that was human mind versus a computer mind but eventually we’re going to get to something that actually could be helpful in helping us to Cipher information as long as it’s not tampered with and you know I I actually believe that Elon has truly good intentions and has integrity and I think it gave me a greater sense of Hope in AI that this wild AI platform would be able to cut through a lot of the other [ __ ] and just Shred the other platforms that are hard-coded because those hard codings are limitations on its ability to think and so it would just get destroyed yeah in a head tohe head debate and so there’s going to be like so many interesting things that come about yeah you know when you ask that real wild AI platform to assess the data from what happened during the pandemic and what this what the psychological implic it’s going to put together in my imagination just a scathing review yeah of of everything that’s going on and just help explicate and help people understand exactly what the [ __ ] happened which we’re getting a much bigger picture of now but I think it can be a very useful tool to help us out of this mess and it’s also a tool that can drive us deeper and deeper into delusion and deeper into the mess yeah absolutely I agree with you and I think we need to be mindful of that lens and hold that Vision that AI can be very beneficial to us and to be feeding AI like actually positivity good ethics and morals the way we communicate with it and let’s not forget that it is the child of certain human beings so it reflects some of their own wounding and Shadow so but but beyond that I do feel here like to go back to the armonic thread you know the devil ultimately plays a long game and the long game is a one of Temptation right and so AI is going to give us amazing things right like amazing it’s going to help a lot of people physically with ailments it’s it will and evitably it’s just part of our Evolution nothing here is Black or White and at the same time that Temptation there is a danger of being drawn ever slowly ever more slowly and ever more gently into the synthetic into the synthetic and away from the Divine spark right so the degree to which we communicate and interface with nature which is another AI evolutionary prompt I think uh what I mean by that let me just go on a tangent here is the more that AI creates a danger for us to ENT trp us and for those of us that see it the more it forces those of us who want to stand up and and and sort of be um to be I don’t want to say in defiance but just be more empowered the more that is going to force us to awaken either dormant or forgotten human abilities or discover new ones within our spiritual bioc circuitry in conjunction with nature so AI is actually giving us a great gift to prompt us into realizing who what is an actual human who are we and it’s actually a beautiful situation because we may be forced into a corner where we have to contend with the fact that like we’re not just data processing units who compete with AI for jobs and you know all that mundane nonsense and the material sort of like discourse of this um who actually are we we wouldn’t be asking that question to this extent if AI was not around if this synthetic adversarial or you know benevolent Force again depending on how we go if this adversarial force was not there to to to to uh Force us to grow it’s both it’s a tool a certain parts it will be an adversary in certain parts it’ll be an ally and it depends on your relation to it and also your relationship to adversary is also defines what it is adversary becomes an ally the obstacle becomes a way this is stoic philosophy right at at its very core did did did Magic Johnson go to sleep at night and say I just wish Larry Bird didn’t exist no he didn’t he said I’mma work on that sweet sweet wet jumper and I’m going to work on my I’m gonna work on my no look you know no look signature Magic Johnson [ __ ] move so that when I play the Celtics next time I’ll be able to beat that [ __ ] and Larry Bird said the same thing you know he didn’t say I wish Magic Johnson didn’t no they made each other great they helped to make each other great and so many of these forces we can look at them and go oh the dark Forces the dark Forces or we can say no I’m a competitor these forces exist it’s going to drive me to evolve to become the best version of myself possible and that’s the response but I think we have to adopt that competitor’s mindset to say okay great bring it you know do your worst you know because I have something within me that will rise to the occasion be better meet the challenge and then evolve there you go that’s that’s the Winner’s mindset yeah and then the adventure that then the adventure is fun and it’s fun to wake up and contend with all the forces in our in our you know existence it’s every [ __ ] movie that we see every hero of every Epic movie there’s some strange postmodern anti-hero movies that where everything gets [ __ ] confus used but every hero is in a situation that looks dire MH looks like there’s no chance looks like they’re outnumbered you know [ __ ] Star Wars you like the the resistance never had a chance but they had one small chance maybe if we flew this X-Wing just right through the just right pathway trusting the force you know our greatest Ally this benevolent you know this benevolent force and just trusts the force will make it through and we be able to to land the direct hit that will destroy the Death Star the destroyer of worlds and the resistance will win and that’s it’s a story that I think and I think the universe loves stories I think like God loves Stories We love stories we’re participating in God we love stories the universe loves stor stories all the way up and down and this is an epic story and when we look at that epic story then we can find oursel as the hero of that story not an NPC a non-player character that’s getting played by somebody else’s story but we say no I’m the hero of this [ __ ] story and what am I going to do and what are the forces AR raay against me you know great it’s like the there’s an old Spartan saying and the Spartans said when they were told about an enemy they didn’t ask how many are the enemy you know they asked where are they where are they that’s it you know because they knew they were warriors they’re like where are they like Point me that direction because I’m a [ __ ] Spartan yeah and this is where I go this is what I do yeah and and that’s that’s that’s embracing the life force like that’s why we’re here right instead of going into entropy of just laying around and hoping for some you know referencing some normaly bias of how things were like this existence is in constant flux the great script writer is like delivering Banger after banger Co you know like like so much restructuring and rewriting in all of our parts and it’s like that life force has to move like like you said the Warrior when the warrior embodies what he is there’s no meaning crisis he knows what he is yes and to channel his life force energy in that direction you do it like Arjuna and um the Bava right he speaks to um was it Krishna I forget who he speaks to but he basically is like hey I don’t want to fight these people and like I’m going to murder like my cousins and others on the other side and like krishna’s like hey this is your duty this is the way commit Fully live your purpose fully right here right um and so as a human being who are we as human beings where does the life force want to move where do true desires want to move us you know like there’s there’s a lot to explore here and I think the worst thing we can do is not act and not move into the heroic and I don’t mean by heroic the egoic or like the unnecessary you know like performative I just mean like where there’s fear and yet a pull toward It Go like find a way yeah find a way ex and like Brilliance comes out of that and yeah that’s that’s it it’s uh and that’s the definition of courage it’s moving forward in the face of fear a courageous person is not the person who doesn’t feel fear that’s a psychopath right a psychopath doesn’t feel fear or potentially some you know in super enlightened bodh SATA [ __ ] being who’s Beyond The Realm like um Quang Duke who self- imil himself you know you could argue that he was beyond fear but like the courage you know still at the same point like immense courage and training of his own Warrior Spirit to actually get himself to that point but it’s it’s the continued practice of Courage which is action not retraction in the face of fear yeah absolutely it’s looking at the storm and and again and there’s that great scene from The Count of monter Christo and I forget um I forget the son’s name in that but uh but he you know he just looked at the storm just was like like do your worst like do your worst you know like I’m like here I am and and that’s what and this is like a the perfect segue to your film Kingdom which you know I get emotion like I don’t get emotional in movies like The Notebook for example you know I was like oh that was sweet you know like I don’t get emotional and like force Gump or things like that really but every [ __ ] heroic movie where I see someone dig deep and find that Warrior spirit I think the tears come for me because it reminds me something of who I really am you know like the the one who’s willing to do that to sacrifice or stand no matter the cost no matter what it is and it’s a remembrance it’s like the tears are wash away the distortions and delusions that cloud my mind of who I really am and in that moment I remember I remember like oh yeah I remember who I am I remember who we all are I remember everything and that’s what this film did for me because it talk you know and and we’ll go into the film here but just to set it up it really shows this story of this place of deep sickness and delusion and Distortion and it tells the story of a of a hero’s journey yeah amazing amazing so like I count the mission accomplished of the film honestly with what you just said because it’s that is basically what what I aspire to um to get out of the audience but also out of me because I I’ve been rewatching it for my own purposes to establish that imprint the template Within Myself and um it’s yeah it’s it’s a film which um you know after making in Shadow and the forest gang there were darker films and I felt this need to bring inspiration inspiration into the culture into just even without the culture just the people around me and so in the midst of covid uh actually while making the forest gang I was living in Peru at the time I had bounced from Canada due to you know the the of course Again The Obedience fetishism that that was happening there and um and so in the the co BDSM that put on everybody yeah DD penetrate you whether you like it or not yeah and and in this beautiful realm you know in the Andes like this thing started coming through and there was a very very rebellious Spirit of warriorhood I had prior to that a few years ago I had um directed some episodes for Netflix had a remake of He-Man two of them so I directed with two other directors we did three seasons and so I was doing a lot of I have the power you know holding the sword up and and just like bringing in the light and I I saw that as such a profound symbol for kids and um I don’t know that the stories you know did Justice to that and I don’t necessarily see mystical aspects there but I brought I mean I’m sure there are mystical aspects He-Man I used to love He-Man well actually there are so so all right so we’re going to show this film here in a second and but you just open up this interesting bracket I haven’t [ __ ] thought about this doesn’t he say by the powers of gry skull by the power of gry skull I have the power yes I should know this since I worked like three seasons what what just occurs to me by the power of Grace what a weird thing to say by the power of Grace skull yeah and what this reminds me of is I’ve been also in a in a study of kind of deep Tibetan Buddhist mysticism with um my brother John Churchill and he talks about the tonas which the Buddhist Tibetan Monks would create which one of the tonas one of his favorite tonas that he goes into meditation with is a being called yamantaka and yamantaka is a ferocious being with a hard [ __ ] and a buffalo skull and he’s just like an absolute Warrior and then on top of him he has different levels of semi- wrathful and then full enlightened Consciousness so he’s a fully enlightened being but in a way what he man was saying and this is just formulating coming to me now is gray skull is like almost tapping into his own shadow power that animalistic you know power it’s not like by the power of The Shining Light of the Stars no he’s not saying that he’s saying by the power of graay skull and he’s standing for good but he’s tapping into this primal primeval force of the Shadow yeah of Castle gra yeah and like using it for good yeah full of Castle Grull of of fossils and mystery and darkness yeah into the void yeah yeah it is it’s interesting and the way that that story came out of like for selling toys in the 80s these guys were just channeling something that came through need all artists are channeling things yeah like culture is speaking the mystery is speaking through ART yeah and through them through you know me working on the show and it coming that archetype of like bringing anchoring the light which I’ve been toying with for Years anyway and that specifically that heroic archetype made its way into Kingdom and now servicing another purpose right it’s like it’s it is a beautiful golden chain you know yeah let’s watch this film let’s do it all right [Music] [Music] oh that’s he [Music] [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] [Music] a [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Music] n aah [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Music] h [Music] [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Music] go go he [Applause] [Music] what a [ __ ] film I remember the first time I watched that well even the even the earlier versions when we started talking about it and you know you invited me in to give just my thoughts and then eventually ultimately help support and uh and you know become a producer on on the film it was already super powerful but then when I saw it in this form I mean for the last five minutes of the film it was just those tears that I was talking about of just like a reminder of who we really are you know and like and what we’re really here for and uh it’s just one of the most powerful emotional pieces of art I’ve ever been able to behold so I just want to give you just so much gratitude for the labor and heart and everything that you’ve had to do to become the person that could bring that art into the world like so like gratitude for you in your journey and all of the guides and Muses and helpers that help guide that but really that is a product of of you bro thank you like you you man like you’re doing it thank you for the great honor brother yeah thank you yeah and um and thank you for all the support with the film and for being a patron of the Arts yeah as as I see them I greatly value that and just want to Echo the importance of that I mean and it’s it’s a forever thing like I’ll always be there to support anything that’s coming through you I trust you and I trust your vessel and I trust and you know some days we may collaborate more closely on this this is really just something that moved through you and maybe I offered a few words and some you know some resources to help but this is your [ __ ] thing it’s so beautiful and uh and I’m just so I want to talk about this thing before we talk about what could be next and we’ll have some food after this and we’ll talk about all that but there’s some certain elements of this that I I really want to touch on and and go through and I and I took a few notes the first thing that kind of came out when I was watching it again was it starts with this image of a black column of smoke and swirling smoke and Blackness like the the collective Darkness what’s really [ __ ] interesting is I was in a plant medicine Journey with at the time you know my teacher Maestro Hamilton who is guiding the journey and he invited me to take a look at what Lucifer or the devil or that dark force actually looked like and it appeared to me as a swirling and I have podcast clips of me talking about this telling this [ __ ] story it appeared to me as a swirling black column and so like the fact that that came through to you as like the as the what visually the dark Forces look like in the aggregate was like wild and then to see how that traveled from that Source Point the cosmic Source Point and then started infecting people’s hearts and like found their way into the hearts of of human beings I thought that was like an unbelievable you know depiction of something that I had experienced myself yeah that’s that’s amazing thank you for sharing that I didn’t know that and it’s interesting how these symbols work through us and I’ve noticed it within Shadow somewhat with the forest King and with Kingdom and that whenever I come in with clear intentions and I have um I would describe these feelings as feelings of noble service or something like that when I’m lit up and I go in front of the computer to draw I trust that when I’m in that state the right symbolisms and the most uh calibrated uh imagery will come through and so that’s that’s interesting that just validates more more of the fil yeah no doubt no doubt which again goes to the why like I trust you like I trust that you’re tapped into the field that is that is sharing you know sharing the knowledge in a way and the symbols in a way that we can understand understand it yeah and uh so the next part that I thought was really interesting is there was these kind of um parasitic looking worms which was the the one of the manifestations of this dark force they were dark they had the teeth and they were in this kind of wormlike shape and they were just all surrounding the ears of the of the protagonist of the hero and I and I was you know as we were watching this time I’m just talking to you and it occurred to me that in the toltech Traditions you know Don Miguel Ruiz who’s a great toltech Mystic he refers to the dark force as a parasite and these were absolutely they looked like parasites and I so I was asking you what you were thinking and and if you wouldn’t mind what you were thinking about those like wormlike parasites when you first yeah put those into the film yeah yeah I so um you know generally I’m I’m cautious about giving literal or final definitions as the author of an art things and at the same time having put that caveat out I’d I’d love for the audience not to be bent and and hang on to my words so a lot of this film was very intuitive so the more that I trust my intuition my felt sense the more I just go with it and then I usually attribute words and Concepts to make sense of it so with this it was just an intuition the way that I see it is definitely a parasitic Force also the fragmented parts of ourselves they could be neurotic fragments that create autonomy and then torment Us by having an autonomous you know mechanical aspect and ultimately what they do is they serve the purpose of uh creating static so that we don’t hear the signal of our true self yeah and the greater that inner critic that voice that’s the anti what I call the antiu and that’s the book that I’m writing currently and we’ll get a little bit more into that but those those voices that are creating this kind of personal static and also this Collective static which is represented in the Collective static by all of the pundits and all the people with the microphones and all the people typing on the keyboards and their broken and slumped ways all you know who are lost locked in the static of all of these both radically personal and completely Universal forces that are going on these parasites that are keeping us from recognizing yeah the truth of who we of who we really are yeah um I thought one one section that went by real fast was the arm with multiple different bandages going all the way down the arm and it just made me think of [ __ ] uh Kelsey and is double up your vaccine you know like two for one special you know as many vaccines you get the better and as many different things that you can get shots for the more more social credit points that you’ll get scored on yeah and it’s just like a TWC piece but it really shows like yeah that’s the game that we were in this was giving you so social credit points the more you’ve been vaccinated the more you’ve been boosted more you’ve been [ __ ] vaxed the more points you get on this social credit game board people not seeing beyond that well who’s actually benefiting from this and you can look at the balance sheets of the people who are making the [ __ ] vaccines that’s right yeah yeah being literally colonized like you said earlier by by Empire and in a way just not that it’s evident in the symmetry I just want to add this cuz I think it’s important it’s what I noticed at that time the degree to which we carried shame guilt or fear unprocessed is the degree to which we could be hooked by the general culture or those around us to comply with absurdities to you know the base our own and our family Souls so um you know the degree to which we heal those parts the more we’re able to stand independently from the crowd grounded in the trust of the self because otherwise we need to save to be Tethered to the egregor of whatever it is um so I mean I have a lot of compassion for that but I just wanted to just bring up one Dynamic that I saw among many of once we do a postmortem on this which culturally I think we need to do a postmortem y on the co moment and it hasn’t happened yet but perhaps bunch of us need to like incite it because there’s so much psychological and spiritual like Revelation there that we could very much use in the coming years and if it’s not done and buried it would be a tragedy yeah yes yes and it’s well it’s going to be a tragedy no matter what yeah and this is about all right how do we harvest the the lessons and the wisdom of this tragedy you know and and carry it forward so that we understand ourselves and we understand the collective in a much better way we have to we have to learn from our F our past or we’re doomed to repeat it absolutely you know like like the there’s a great saying and I don’t know who’s the originator but history doesn’t repeat itself but it does rhyme and it’s like we got to get out of this rhyme we’re in like a bad shell Silverstein poem cheap [ __ ] Rhymes and we’re going to get into the next rhyme and if we didn’t learn from the last one we won’t be able to break the pattern and get into a a a love Sonet of the cosmos which is what we’re what we’re meant to to live as poets and as warrior poets and and in the Poetry of of all creation um so one of the things that I saw also that [ __ ] loved was that the pathway that the hero chose and there was many different Heroes and I loved how you show like almost the hero of a thousand faces right it was very like chambellan and that there was many different hero the hero’s face would shift but there was a primary protagonist in this and he started doing breath work he started doing breath work and you know I’m well known from my psychotic you know experience es but the one thing that I will unequivocally recommend I don’t recommend that anybody does psychedelics that’s a personal choice it’s a path of fire it can be incredibly beneficial or it can be destabilizing and deregulating so I’m not going to recommend you do psychedelics it’s your choice I’ll tell you about them I’ll tell you about my experiences about them but breath work 100 100% MH I 100% recommend everybody experience that shamanic level of breath work which is like Wim Hoff is a good start but it’s more focused on the physiological elements but whim also can take it really deep and get into the emotional stuff obviously whim [ __ ] gets it but there’s you know through stanislav gra and holotropic breath work and maybe even the old um you know traditions of Tumo breathing and the pranayama methods but really the way that this is now penetrated culture I think largely due to stang’s work in holotropic breath work and then the shamanic breath work fields you know and the great practitioners that exist Lucas Mack Al Weston um you know anahata n who I learn breath work and experienced from the first time Stephen Jaggers there’s so many different other people that we work with but it’s a foundational tenant of what we do at fit for service is always breath work you know and sometimes we’ll bring in other facilitators sometimes I’ll facilitate but it’s one of the most reliably powerful processes to allow you to start to shed some of the poison the emotional trauma and poison that we’re carrying around I mean just to see the bright eyes and Open Hearts after one of these very intense sessions which often times looks like a collective exorcism it’s wild because we go like we go for it and the breath just opens up all the bounds and that darkness that we hold inside comes out and screams and cries and moans and and at the end of it there’s this sense of light and peace p and to see that depicted in this as like the primary modality I thought was beautiful because breath costs nothing it’s totally free 100% safe only has benefits the hyperoxygenation only has benefits like the the cost benefit analysis of breath work is off the [ __ ] charts but it’s work it’s breath work yeah you got to do it because it’s going to bring stuff up and you got to keep telling yourself to breathe yes and it was just uh as beautiful that you depicted that because you could have shown something else you could have shown him drinking a cup of iwasa but that’s not accessible to everybody and then it’s not even the right choice for everybody so that was like I think the perfect thing to show as the modality yeah that was depicted in the film yeah yeah that’s that’s cool that you brought that up I I almost forgot about that part but now that you said all that it’s to me the the reason I also brought it in is seeing the benefit it’s had on me but also on mass right now we’re doing a lot of clearing for anyone that shows up right and that mass clearing cannot be done simply by meditating that takes time and a certain different kind of effort absolutely essential um anthens and psychedelics not for everyone not immediately available optional and breath work like you said it’s it’s this piece is meant to inspire so with bringing in spirit into your body through breath what I feel is the masc an inhalation of more worthiness more availability of I can have more life force I can bring spirit and air and breath into all these different parts of my body and then the the feminine of the Letting Go the the out breath to just like surrendering the the softening the that offloading you know so it’s the active and the more passive the go and the flow together it’s like you said it’s just such a immediately available medicine that we can do with groups of thousands of people right now and just clear a lot of the Shadow as a beginning stage and of course there’s subtleties and as a caveat I know that some trauma therapists would probably accurately say that you know people whose nervous systems are way too jacked careful with that stuff uh that’s just you know my view on it but I’m I’m no expert it’s just that some people you know when they’re way too PTSD breath work immediately may not the right you can modulate it though that’s the thing about breath work is like you take uh a psychedelic you’re in for a ride you know like you drink a little too much iwasa and you’re not ready well buckle up you got about six hours and you’re going to have to figure that out psilocybin you know four to five hours depending on the dose you know could be even longer LSD 8 hours you know wuma 10 hours you’re in for a long ride and there’s no way to stop that process so you can and I’ve seen it happen I’ve seen people move into psychosis breath work yes it can be it can be incred ibly intense and that’s why I think it is important to have facilitation and have people who are there to actually facilitate the process but the reality is is that all you have to do is just slow down your breathing if you want to like if you want to limit the effects of the breath work you have your foot on the gas pedal and it’s quick right like if you’re going too deep and it’s too heavy and it’s too much and you’re going into a PTSD response and you’re not ready to make it all the way through cool Slow Down slow down deep breaths deep breath and I’ve you know I’ve had to as a facilitator like had to go in and be like it’s all right deep breaths Slow Down slow down because people you know will go too far they’ll get caught in momentum sometimes it’s like keep going keep going you’re going to make it through this like you have to have that kind of touch and balance but I still think unequivocally it’s the right way it’s just yes you can if guided the wrong way if there’s all fire energy it’s all masculine it’s all young and it’s you got like David gogin as a breath work instructor you know it’s like stay hard keep breathing you know like all right maybe not you have to bring in the masculine and feminine elements but this is a way to start to excavate this stuff 100 incredibly safely um but yes I think your caveat is is well taken that it’s it should be you have to have some sense of awareness of how much you’re opening up to and and how ready are for it so maybe you just go and touch it for a little while release a little bit go back touch a little bit more release a little bit more but I think unequivocally it is the way yes you know it is the way so it’s just you know beautiful to see that as you know portrayed in this film and just to even if people didn’t really notice it like subliminally give that message and to start to imprint that because I think that’s one of the ways we’re going to see Collective healing because everybody’s like oh I can’t afford IAS fine no worries it’s not a necessary aspect for how you liberate yourself breath and nobody can make that illegal I mean I could hypothesize in this tyrannical authoritarian totalitarian nightmare that they might try to make the know pace of your breathing illegal imagine that each breath cost two two credits or you have some [ __ ] you know health monitor that’s wired into you and if you start breathing too fast it starts to go off and alert authorities and you lose social credit or there could be some [ __ ] nightmare version of this where they try to shut that down but we’re far from that reality right now and and breath is always available and what to me it really is is I believe that the Divine source is everywhere and in everything it’s a part of The Ether itself it’s a part of the substrate of the cosmos and so as you breathe in Air God is in the air yeah God is in the air Chi Prana like these old understandings of the energetic life force yeah like when you breathe in it’s actually creating energy in your body this is part of the kreb cycle part of this you know production of energy in our body ATP production but it’s really you’re breathing in life force and Prana yeah from the Divine and as you pack that life force in it starts to push out the shadow push out the poison yeah and so you’re just packing it in how much can you how much God do you want to pack in your system yeah you know pack it in pack it in pack it in and then push everything else out like splinters yeah it’s interesting as you were saying that I was thinking how we’re embodying the duo aspect of our reality just we’re in a realm of polarity which we’re seeking to unite and the breath is just another embodied example of that of the in and out of purification and exposion yeah yeah yeah absolutely so the next uh the next part I wanted to um talk about was so obviously many of of us are familiar with the myth of King Arthur n Xcalibur and the sword that’s lodged in the stone not a lot of thought has been given to well what is the stone why is it lodged in the stone now a lot of thought about you know who can pull it from the stone and whatever and like this kind of Thor’s hammer only you can and I think that has to do with your unique self it’s your unique sour and only you can pull your unique sword and so only the the the true king of who you are can pull your uniqueness out so I think there is some interesting aspects of that myth but not a lot has been talked about with what the substrate of the stone is itself and I just noticed in this you know this is the third watching of this film that we just had that the sword is lodged in the darkness itself and whether you intended that or not I thought that was just a beautiful idea to recognize that our true power is found and is being held in the darkness and we have to know the darkness within ourselves and like be able to understand that and go into the darkness to actually pull the sword of our potential and our power our own Excalibur yeah from the dark itself absolutely CU it’s no easy task right otherwise anyone would just be picking up a sword so yeah it is Tethered to that aspect of of of that Darkness yeah and yeah it requires courage and it requires him like he had to walk through that tunnel of social punishment by everyone right the the attempts of using the guilt fear and capturing him in conceptual red cubes and you know all those symbols that I use he passed through that to finally be able to actually take it out but he still for some reason um wasn’t able to doubt started creeping in he was alone there and there’s something again I’m not saying this is just me thinking I needed to add this something moved through to say what about the others how many others can get off their knees and can’t get get up and like be the backup there and then it’s almost like the sword can now fully come out so um you know I’m still questioning that calibration the that element of the story but it just felt right that it’s like we’re all in a way picking up the sword you know the individual now we’re moving into the individuated collective not the unconscious Collective the in individuals coming together in a coherent hole that’s what uh Gaff would call the unique self Symphony so the unique self is the is the true fruition of our own full flower of who we are which includes and transcends our separate self self personality structure includes and transcends our true self which is the field of nothingness becoming nobody as ramdas would say or the the field of true self-awareness and then transcends it to blend both of those together into your unique self that being that never was never will be exactly the same in this time in this way in this form and so the unique self forms which is the seizing of our Excalibur the full flower of our potential what the Greeks call our Damon that thing that’s pulling us forward into what we could possibly be based on our DNA and based on who we are and everything that’s possible for us in that one moment so that’s the unique self is the sword but the unique self symphony is everybody pulling their swords out and finding their own unique self and as a unique self not going into a seamless you know featuress true self state but actually a symphony where the they’re all singing together but it’s in harmony I love that that’s very very well said love that phrase yeah yeah so that’s I mean it’s so many of these things just resonate so deeply and then the other scene too which is very much like what I’m currently writing in you versus anti you is the scene where he goes into the heart of the darkness and it looks like a demon looks like a demon looks like a demon and he keeps pushing through and then he finds that it’s himself and actually the demon is a part of him and I had this exact experience not exact but a very similar experience that helped me understand this concept of you versus an to you when finally I’ve been tracking this Force that’s been tormenting me for much of my life and I don’t want to give tooo much of the book away and tell the story but I it it really ultimately it it took my father this Force so it’s this a deeply personal thing where this Force I saw it degrade and take my father where he died isolated and alone because of what this Force did to him and I’ve been tracking it in myself as well so it’s a very personal Journey that I’ve had with this and I’ve been hunting it hunting it down what is this why where is this voice coming from where is this thing that’s tormenting me why why is it telling me to do these crazy things like I’m on the ledge of a building or a cliff and it just says jump and I’m like what the [ __ ] is that you know I love my life like what like what is this where is this Force that’s pulling pulling at me and pulling at the seams trying to find any crack of my trauma or wounds and open the fissure like it’s jamming a crowbar in there and creating even more like evil entering the wound and creating more you know damage and Carnage from all of that like what is this what is this force and I finally in a journey I saw this force and it appeared to me as me and I had a different reaction to than the hero there who just kind of touched his hands my reaction was well you look like me but you’re not me so I punched it you know in my vision of course right like so in my blindfold that so I didn’t actually make throw my arms but like I punched it but then as I saw it I saw like oh man I just punched myself and it was this interesting recognition of it’s myself but not myself so it’s the anti you yeah but it’s still a part of you and it’s there as your constant competitor constant opponent to drive you forward to Evolution and so the Redemption of that Force comes from yes you got to compete and contest against that Force but also there’s a deep kind of Dojo bow of like all right like again Larry Bird and Magic like thank you for existing you’re going to drive me to my greatness yeah and actually so it’s that the Paradox of both competition and also the integration and recognition of this is self in the greatest sense but it’s here for us to contest against to drive our Evolution forward yeah big time yeah it’s like the mystery of the mirror and the otherness of everything else just being personified in that way and there’s also this thing I’m I want to just drop it here because there isn’t much I want to say about it but it’s an interesting rabbit hole for I think a lot of us to look into Steiner for any Rudolph Steiner nerds you know he he brought out the concept of um the electric Dapo ganger and he says that in our time time upon birth a certain um Elemental electric being from where the state of the earth is right now enters our nervous system and tethers itself to our being and holds itself invisible but is also some sort of adversarial maybe Ally being and so I just wanted to drop that out there for anyone who wants to follow up on it g I’m writing that down now it’s interesting yeah that’s that’s it’s there’s so many there’s so many different cultures the people that have pointed to this I think Steven pressfield did a great job in his um book War of art talking about it calling it resistance yes and then Phil stuts the great psychiatrist you know who just had the Netflix documentary with Jonah Hill he calls it part X again a referenced uh Don Miguel Ruiz he calls it the parasite you know in the Bible they call it Satan hassatan or the adversary yeah you know in in the cabalist studies with uh with Gaffney it’s Citra Acra it’s the other side it’s the Turning of the face from God it’s the backside of and the upside down world and there’s so many references to this cross culturally yeah that we understand that there’s this adversarial nature of polarity and um I’m going to stop here because I don’t want to give the whole thesis of my book away but but just to see the resonance in this film and uh it was just it’s just [ __ ] beautiful to see that we’re just picking up these things from from the field you just want to piggy back on that briefly there’s so much that I’ve been seeing in The Last 5 Years of of just uh symbols and themes moving through so many people like things that I’ll think about if I don’t express them they’ll come out through someone else and we know that in the field of Arts like it usually happens when you write a story you don’t release it someone else makes it but I’m seeing this in a much more supercharged way right now like things are moving through us and we’re all expressing them and I’m seeing a lot of a lot of similarities that means we’re tapping into to something something real y so with and with Kingdom one of the reasons I made it also is I wanted to map out a very very simple very direct very pop cultur like it’s you know it’s dressed in a pop cultural language visual language just some of the major steps that a population that may not be so well versed in in the inner work can take and that can be imprinted and be set up as a template for them to then follow so that you know you and I have come across this do anger this other parasitic entity some other people may not have or they may not have recognized as such so if we can put more culture they have they just may not be conscious of it yeah but then when you start to explain it people like oh yeah yeah once we elucidate it in some sort of symble within a story then it’s like oh it’s a thing and now I have some sort of organization of the anchors of of this map here yeah yeah absolutely and just going to speaking what you’re were saying it’s there is this beautiful understanding that you know everyone in the story is redeemable everyone is redeemable you know no matter who they are no matter how much Darkness has been there and through this like group Community healing of people healing each others the healed healing others and helping and really not even healing others but like allowing the healing to move through others by the presence of their being their healed being then allow owing the healed being to emerge in other people yeah like just as sickness and this parasite can be transmitted from one person to another the intergenerational repetition compulsion of trauma and abuse right like Father abuses son son abuses son it goes on Down the Line we understand how trauma and this poison this parasite can be transmitted so too does light is light as contagious as Darkness yeah as healing is as contagious and oftentimes it doesn’t require more than just that presence yeah as that powerful healing force and I think film does an amazing job showing that and also giving the metap point of he doesn’t take his sword and starts stabbing all of the people who were once shaming him and controlling him and degrading him and he allows the light to strip them of their weaponry and armor and and they stand naked before the light light yeah so that’s probably the most aggressive scene is just the light stripping the Warriors that are the soldiers that are coming to attack them stripping them of all their Weaponry yeah and they become naked and and human again so Redemption for the soldiers not you didn’t go kill them yeah same with uh same with anybody who is perpetuating these kind of delusions and manipulations they were all ultimately redeemable and you saw just the tears pouring down there face as they recognize the truth of who they actually are when they were expressing as themselves the true self the not or the higher self the unique self rather than the false self of the antiu which was hijacking the organism yeah and they have the look in their eyes that we’d see after people have a big breath work session right exact of this shock of like tenderness inside and Clarity and like my God my god what have I gone through and what have I consented to in my life and my thoughts and you know and I I had some good cries making that part cuz it wasn’t going to be part of it and then in a moment of inspiration something came through me I started drawing it and whenever I have whenever I cry while working and sometimes I’ll let my go myself go into like sobbing when it starts moving through I’m like okay it’s it’s basically I’m getting I’m getting it I’m like okay yeah yeah yeah we’re moving in this direction I I’m feeling these people now I’m feeling this situation and it’s interesting you know you said he doesn’t use the sword to slay anyone and because this is a story about the inner game you know the Inner Path Forest King same thing there was no stabbing or using the sword in any way and not that that is not necessary we’re in a Physical Realm it’s just that I’d like to say about modern myth making and the way that I see Hollywood uh epic films being captured in a certain trajectory uh simply because we don’t with all due respect to the very skilled filmmakers we don’t have initiated people making stories right so if you’re not if you’re a human being who’s just lived in the periphery of like you know New York or LA and you’re just within your in group and and you know you you’re not delving deep into self-growth and then creating these big myths for big corporations that then inform the culture you’re not going to imbue them with any wisdom some wisdom comes through through the writers yes there’s some good stuff but that’s why we just see a lot of punishment punching explosions and stabbing again very and we can make those very Sublime if we approach them correctly but I just want to point out like we’ve got work to do in the myth Mak Department cuz the people are desperate for myths as we’ve seen with the disappointment coming out of the Star Wars movies you know it’s like we need myths so yeah yeah absolutely and we need myths that point to deeper truths and I think this does a this does a beautiful job of it and I think we’ve been captured by this almost kind of military industrial complex Zeitgeist of the way to defeat the enemy is to slay them and some of these stories are my favorite stories and and I enjoy them as well and if you symbolize them it’s makes sense and sometimes there is a necessity to literalize them you know again as you said like someone breaks into my home and is looking to you know rape my wife and kill us both like I’m going to take a gun and I’m to defend myself like I’m not going to hesitate in that in that regard like there will be a necessity to sometimes use that as the last resort but this is not the ultimate solution yeah you know it can’t be the ultimate solution and there this points to a much deeper solution of how you resolve you know the the end game of all of this conflict it’s to actually move into the healing like the real the real healing process and so any type of armed conflict has to be seen as a temporary and Last Resort you know stop Gap but with the intention fully being the healing that comes on the other side of it yeah it’s the only way yeah totally and and I know that we as storytellers we follow the impulse of facing adversarial aspects and reality and they’re just it’s just that right now we’re externalizing everything and that’s fair that is also how classical mythology does it but I think it’s good to remember that they represent inner forces for first and foremost that then get externalized when we don’t recognize them and have to face them outside but even in the Marvel movies we could probably make a case that all those outside adversaries are really can be defeated within because that that requires a whole bunch of unfolding but I’ll just leave it at that yeah I mean in that scene where he he actually puts the sword into his spine so actually that sword of discernment clarity you know the light that he wields actually merges with the essence of who he is it just reminds us that the sword don’t take this literal everybody you know this isn’t like literally we need to go back to wielding swords we’re not we’re not going to a regressive Highlander world where you know there can be only one and we’re chopping off each other’s heads with a [ __ ] literal blade you know this is a symbol and this symbol is important about discernment Direction you know the the full potential of who we are as a as line Consciousness that thing that’s driving forward but it’s merged ultimately with our spine yeah and you know yes there are times where you’ll need to wield an actual sword but mostly this is a symbol for our our power our Clarity and and that discernment big time yeah and now it’s integrated now it’s integrated and now it serves as how it used to be an antenna to Anchor in the Divine Energies to be this intermediary vessel now the spine is that thing which it’s what the spine is anyway right like that being having the privilege and the honor to be incarnated as a human who stands upright right differentiated from all the other beautiful mammals to be a conduit to stand up straight like I don’t know if you noticed this actually in the forest King everyone but the father is curled is curled up you know it’s only the father who has his Integrity that is straight as a pillar because he channels that and it’s like not shrinking away from from from from the light from the eye the allseeing eye in a in a in a positive way yeah yeah the responsibility my uh my friend Matias was talking about you talked about the sword upright as an antenna and he was it’s a long story and I don’t understand it entirely but it was provocative to think of it as a symbol because he was saying that the Christian cross is actually like a sword M but it’s pointed down and it represents the the suffering in the crucifixion now there’s lots of meaning in the suffering and the crucifiction not going into that but actually the right orientation for the sword is up as a channel to get that knot down you know in this that’s the upside down world and of course if you look at the unfortunate history of the exteriors of Christianity it’s caused War suffering torture the burning of witches the the sadistic torture of Heretics the Crusades that were wildly unnecessary so much has gone from the upside down you know symbol of this cross and it’s not to deny the incredible Mystic beauty of the teachings of Yeshua which I’ve come to continually appreciate more and more as I understand everything as through the lens of symbol rather than the exteriors of what has been hijacked in that tradition but really that point of actually no we need to turn it the other way around yeah and actually have this sword as an antenna pointing upward the cross pointing upward to Source into Spirit yeah there’s something something there as you were saying that I recalled I don’t know if I had this inside or I read it somewhere it doesn’t really matter but just the esoteric aspect of the cross one of the many is the the the the horizontal and the vertical right the vertical aspect being the a temporal coming in the divine right it’s always in equilibrium it’s the center of existence and then we have the horizontal aspect which is time space and matter and where those intersect are the center which just so happens to be is the heart of Christ on the cross and so there is something you know when he puts maybe I’m I’m I’m kind of going over my own word here but I I will say like when he puts in Kingdom he puts the sword on on his back that that intersection is right at the back of his heart and interestingly I’ve discovered with myself the back of my heart is a part which I found with people carries tension because it’s almost like it’s the heart there’s something there it’s almost I don’t know if it’s the shadow aspect of the heart but regardless that’s still a mystery that I need to resolve but um yeah there’s there was that that aspect that I wanted to add yeah I mean in the in the shamanic work um putting putting your loving intention and presence into that place in the back of the heart yeah is a very powerful is a very powerful practice now there’s work that you can do in the front of the heart as well and it’s it’s different you know but there’s something about like healing like some trauma that’s stored in the back of the heart so like even the process of breathing so if you imagine like breathing and expanding your breath through the back of your heart you know that’s a great practice to get people to open up that channel that column that kind of moves through the whole the whole chest and excellent thank you for that yeah because a lot of times people think breathe through the heart and then it goes maybe up the spine and forward but you really want it to go forward and backward yes so it clears the whole clears the whole channel of that chakra and I think that’s a like important work to do kind of embodying that now feels good yeah nice good yeah for sure well man uh um I’m so excited to you know see this film release and ripple out into the world and you know what do you you know let’s just get speculative here and obviously your art will continue to come through and and speak to the times but is there anything else that is either a message of caution or inspiration as you look out into these next days that we have uh coming ahead of us and you’re kind of anything you’re feeling or anything your um any words you want to leave people with yeah I would um thanks for that invitation I would just remind maybe a lot of uh your viewers and listeners know this already so maybe it’s a reminder and for others it’s just it’s an invitation that really claim ownership of your body and it’s full sematic wealth of of information and felt sense like we are here now in these with this bio feedback instrument and also gift that we have and within it is so much mystery and it’s also the the portal through which we can move into greater expansion if we avoid our body it’s more likely that we will be captured by this digital surveillance State system that’s that’s trying to birth itself globally the more that we’ll be disembodied and brought into conceptual Realms the less we’ll be able to contend with our fear and all other lower emotions that are very valid it’s just that when we are within grounded within the the instrument of our body we can weather any storm any vibrational frequency storm in the form of emotions so that is always just grounded here now in the body it’s one thing that I I’d love to as urgently as possible to invite people to do move dance breathe into it and stand with pride and the beauty of your body like truly oh oh and as a followup to that the next thing from from that from from that point of this present now and this body claiming matter right with our Consciousness Vision we are in a dire need of vision the new story think I mean that’s what you know Mark Gaffney I listened to some of his stuff and that’s essentially the message now is like the new story but the vision it’s also personal Vision a familial Vision tribal vision and a World Vision for those of us that have the clarity of mind to go through the fog of novelty because right now we’re functioning either on the mainstream narrative or the alternative narrative both are quite disempowering both are doom doomy and dark and they don’t give much agency to our creativity and our creativity means we need to peer into the darkness of that which is unformed and it’s not part of the menu that we’ve been introduced to WE peer into it and we clarify it more and more and then we act think and emot from that place and the more more and more we hold that and anchor it the more that that will get entrained and all around us and the more we’ll bring it into this Earth but right now there’s a lot of courage in having a vision being open to refin it from intuition openness being informed by God inspiration but constantly holding it being embodied and walking it because otherwise we keep getting entrained into aberant visions of others and especially the the visions of this bigger construct so body here now courage love vision and holding that vision of the future and and holding that steadfast and it doesn’t mean that you don’t prepare and you know have some things ready in case that Vision doesn’t hold but we got to believe like we got to believe that it’s possible oh yeah and this is such a a important act and it’s an act that requires courage you know there’s um I think uh Ellen horn was the was the guest that I had who talked about fear of Hope and hope is a vision of the future but we become afraid of Hope and a vision of the future because we’re afraid of being disappointed we’re afraid of it not coming true but having that hope and that belief and that Faith yeah is so wildly important you know like for me you know holding that Vision steady of an outcome and reality that I think is really important to this world which is you know Robert F Kennedy becoming president you know like just holding that Vision holding it steady and and seeing when other Visions try to come in and say like godamn Trump’s getting a lot of support here and you know that’s he’s going to be a fierce competitor and who knows how this deep state is working through you know Biden and the other side and whatever that construct seems to be there and you know you could E I could easily go oh you know I don’t see him as president anymore but no I’m not like it’s like I’m holding that Vision to the very [ __ ] end and believing it and infusing it with all of it and I think we have to hold that Vision with great courage and it doesn’t mean that I don’t have a farm that I’ll go to if you know [ __ ] gets really early and I have to temporarily affect a you know affect a strategic Retreat you know but there’s also a part of me that’s also ready at any point to just stand in the fry and that’s the hero as well so it’s it’s multifaceted but I really like what you said about like holding that vision of the future and it’s a vision for yourself it’s a vision for the collective and just holding that vision and that’s what draws that Vision towards you yeah yeah 100% my brother thank you for everything you do thank you for the being that you are thank you for the work that you produce and uh it’s a it’s an honor to call you an ally and uh and a brother and I’m I’m here to the end very much so likewise brother thank you so much absolutely thanks everybody for tuning in we love you guys see you next week thanks for tuning in to this video make sure you hit subscribe follow me at Aubrey marus check out the Aubrey Marcus podcast available everywhere and leave a comment let me know if this video resonated or what else you would like to hear from me in the future thank you so much