Is this frame truly worth €250? Looking at €800 in budget to create a neo retro road bike for cycling around country roads here in Ireland. I have some basic skills with tools for the modifications just unsure of sourcing correct parts. How troublesome is it to do this right? Am I better off just buying an entry level gravel bike like the Marin Nicasio?

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  1. lostarchitect on

    It’s a quality frame, but with no tubing decal it’s tough to say exactly what level it is. I’d assume it’s a mid range frame. It’s probably worth in the neighborhood of the asking price.

    As for converting it to a modern setup, it’s possible and not ultra difficult. The toughest thing will be cold setting the rear dropouts to accommodate a wider modern hub. Many shops don’t want to do this, but if you have a frame builder near you they may help you out.

    Is it worth it? Well, it’ll take some time and effort, you’ll have to buy some tools, and while it will look cool it’ll be heavier than a modern bike. The ride quality may be nicer, but since you’ve never ridden this frame that’s tough to say for sure. I’m not saying “don’t do it” but you could certainly save yourself a lot of hassle just buying new.

    If it was my project, I’d probably hold out for a high end or custom frame, not a mid range one.

  2. Perhaps it’s best to first figure out what you want. And stay true to the answer.

    If you want a vintage road bike this could be a good starting point. The frame in question is a mid level mid 80’s steel road bike frame. The lugs and fork could confirm a Columbus S/SL (?) frame but can’t say for sure.

    You also mentioned gravel bike. This frame is not that. There will not be any space for larger size tires.

    Since it’s a steel frame you might not have to cold set it at all. A modern 10 speed 130 mm rear hub might fit fine in the 126 mm dropout.

    Or just get a nice used 8 speed 126 mm hub wheel set. Then you can still upgrade it with 8 speed brifters.

    – Frame: €250
    – Used wheelset
    – New bottom bracket: get a square tapered sealed cartridge that works with crank set
    – Used quill stem & bars
    – Used brake calipers
    – New after market brake levers/shifters
    – Used seat post: if Columbus SL probably 27.2 mm
    – Used front/rear derailleurs, have to match shifters
    – Used crank set
    – Pedals
    – Consumables like tires/tubes, cables and housing & bar tape

    If shopping around wisely you can make it work for €800 but it quickly adds up.

    What could be better is to try to find a donor bike and transfer what you want to this frame, then sell off everything else.

    The hunt and gathering is half the fun.
    Good luck!!! Let me know if you need help.

  3. Ill_Outside_5015 on

    I have the exact same frame, even the same colors. Bought it in Milan in 88. Great bike!

  4. It’s a Bottechia Special in Aelle tubing (sometimes called Giro when sold as a complete bike), the rear stays are cheaper steel. It’s a budget model and it looks repainted. If the paint is OK it’s worth it, but it isn’t a top of the line Professional by a long stretch. Ask to see whether the rear dropouts are straight.

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