Some examples and an explanation of how drivers can fail to see approaching motorbikes.
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00:00 Statistics
00:54 Vulnerable
01:49 Examples of how bikes can be hidden
07:27 Saccadic masking
09:30 Unsafe drivers
according to the official government statistics for 2022 which is the latest year we have full figures for on the roads 75% of vehicles were cars 18% were Vans 5% lorries 1% buses and 1% motorbikes yet in that year per 1 billion miles traveled 123 motorcyclists lost their lives yet fre car occupants lost their lives the car occupants is the driver and passengers and for total casual including fatalities major injuries and minor injuries in 2022 per 1 billion miles traveled 5,971 motorcyclist casualties yet 305 car occupant casualties now you probably knew that you’re more likely to get killed or injured on a motorbike than you are in a car but did you know the difference was that great there are many reasons why motorcyclists are more likely to be killed or injured on the roads than car occupants the most obvious one is how vulnerable they are in a car you usually have a roof you almost always get doors you have seat belts you have airbags you have a whole host of Safety Systems to try and prevent that Collision from happening in the first place but on a bike you may have abs but generally you’re relying on appropriate clothing and a helmet and if that bike hits something the rider is also likely to hit that something or something else but there is a less obvious reason why motorcyclists are more likely to be killed or seriously injured or injured in general and that’s to do with the size of the bike and how some drivers observe when they’re at Junctions here is an example of how a car can hide another vehicle you can see to the left of this black car and you can see to the right but it’s creating a blind area where you can’t see there is a white car in the distance but it’s easily far enough away for me to go safely what many drivers do in this situation is wait a couple of seconds and see if anyone emerges from the blind area so I will resume the clip for 2 seconds 2 seconds went there and nothing’s coming therefore if I look right and it’s clear I will go but I’m going to be more cautious and leave it a bit longer just in case so I’ll resume the clip and oh the part car wasn’t hiding a bicycle or a motorbike or even a car it was hiding a yellow van so if a car can hide a van it can definitely hide a motorbike the best thing to do in this situation is not to wait for a set period of time and assume if no one’s come now from the blind area no one is going to come because at any moment a vehicle in that blind area could pull out out of a junction that you can’t see or a driveway or move away from the side of the road so therefore you cannot be sure no one is coming until you can see the blind area so in this situation it’s best to move forward slowly when it’s safe to do so until you can see the blind area and actually see the road surface is clear far enough that you know you have enough time to pull out safely here is an example of how driver can miss a motorbike this silver van is turning left its position and signal is clear so there’s no need for me to wait for them at this mini roundabout there is another car approaching but if I get going now I won’t have to wait for them so I may feel a bit rushed and pressured to get going before I missed the opportunity but there is a blind spot beside the van and although there isn’t enough space for a car to fit alongside the van there is definitely enough space for a motorbike so I wait wait until I can actually see the road is clear by which time though I have to wait for the other car but at least now I know for sure that it’s safe to go before committing this white car is turning left into this road that I’m pulling out of so if no one’s coming from my left I should be able to go there’s no need for me to wait for this white car but due to this being a white Junction this white car is approaching me at an angle where I can’t see behind it if a motorbike is following this white car closely then I may not see them before committing in this situation make sure you can see behind the approaching car depending on the angle it approaches you at something may be hidden in the blind area directly behind it however if a motorbike was following this white car at a safe distance it’s much less likely they will be hidden I want to turn right but as the road the head bends to the left it creates a blind area in front of this car I am following where a motorbike could be hiding if the timing is just right so it’s best to slow down and see the actual Road surfaces clear before deciding to turn I say the road surface because relying on your view above Vehicles is risky something can be hidden out of view here I can see to the right as the car is bigger than a bike I can see it I can only see one half of the car but I know it’s there this is how drivers can sometimes Miss bikers they look for things that are car sized or bigger not bike sized and as a whole car can’t hide in this area near the edge of the road they assume no one is coming but an area wide enough to hide half a car is wide enough to hide a bike in this situation when it’s safe to do so it’s best to creep forward slowly to improve your view so that you can see the entire width of the road can a pedestrian hide a motorbike well they certainly can in this situation I would not go from this look alone I would make several looks and try to Edge forwards to see past this pedestrian I want to see if the road surface is clear before committing because until you can actually see a clear Road surface you can’t be sure there’s no one coming another reason why motorcyclists and cyclists can be hidden is because of these your a pillars it’s a pillar because it holds up the roof this is your a pillar because it’s your first one then you got your B pillar because it’s your second one then your C pillar your D pillar usually there’s three or four pillars on either side of the car in this car it’s not so bad they’re not actually that thick they’ve managed to make them a bit thinner whilst maintaining crash safety standards and because the wing mirror is closer to me I can see this side of the pillar and that side of the pillar so it’s quite easy for me to move my head a bit and see around them in some cars the wing mirror is mounted right up against the pillar so you get this area here quite a big area where you can’t see anything you have to move your body as well as your head to see around it but you don’t have to accept that this gets in your way make sure you move your head and see around them so that you can see in front of you apparently there is another reason why dve can miss Riders of motorbikes and bicycles and it’s known as catic masking let me explain at the moment I’m looking left I can see left clearly now I’m looking right I can see right clearly but I didn’t see anything in between when your eyes move you miss information you don’t see everything your eyes Focus from point to point try it yourself look at a point anywhere you are just focus on a point and then quickly look at a completely different Point that’s far away and you’ll realize you could see both the points you’re looking at but you didn’t get much information from the in between now this may explain why when a driver’s at the end of the road looking to see if anything’s coming they miss something in front of them maybe something pulling out of a driveway in the houses in front but it doesn’t explain why when a driver is looking left there’s a motorbike on the left they don’t see the motorbike in my experience the reason why drivers Miss motorbikes is because the motorbike is in a blind area that’s not big enough to hide a car and the driver assumes well a car can’t fit there or a car can’t come through that small Gap so nothing can they’re not thinking about the size of the bike or they do see the bike and it’s really far away but they don’t spend enough time looking at that bike to judge its speed and the bike’s going a lot faster than they anticipate but what about the drivers who pull out in front of the bikers who are traveling at a sensible speed at a normal speed for that road and they’re traveling in a position where they can be seen far back from the car in front so not hidden behind a l or a van out of view they’re actually able to be seen in a position where drivers are likely to see them yet there’s drivers that still pull out in front of those bikers what’s that about well I can tell you something about those drivers they pull out in front of cars as well so why would a driver put out in front of a motorbike or a car well you got to remember that not all drivers in Great Britain are safe to pass a driving test you have to drive safely for 40 minutes and if you can do that then you’re probably mostly going to be safe but it’s not that simple and many things can happen after you pass your driving test for example one of the most common reasons why I see a full license holder Drive in a manner that’s not safe is that they pass their test and then didn’t drive for years they didn’t need to or they couldn’t afford it and then they start driving years later and realized I can sort of remember how to drive but I certainly can’t remember how to drive safely when you when you learn something it’s in your short-term memory you have to do it repeatedly for a long time for it to get in your long-term memory another common reason why I see someone driving below the standards for our roads in Great Britain is that someone’s learned to dve Drive in a country with much lower standards Great Britain has some of the highest standards for the driving test in the world it isn’t the highest but it’s up there it’s one of the highest so someone learns in the country with much lower safety standards for driving they come to this country and they’re allowed to drive for a year and they’re driving for a year and they’re maybe learning to get their UK license and on the same day I can teach a pupil who’s learning to drive and I can teach someone who’s having refresher lessons with a full license or someone with an international license and the full license holder and the international license holder may be below the standard of the learner and that learner may be nowhere near test ready yet yet the refresher lessons for the person with a full license and the person with the international license they have cars they’re allowed to drive they do drive yet they can’t drive as safe as my learner who’s not ready to take the driving test so don’t be surprised by some of the driving you see on Great Britain’s roads having done this job for 15 years I’m certainly no longer surprised I expect it something that I can find quite difficult to get my head around but I also find it a little bit amusing as well is I can be a driving test center an international driving license holder so a person with a driving license from a different country can fail the driving test and then they can get in their car and then they can drive home because even though they 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I've been a cyclist for years, but only in the last 6 months been learning to drive. It has given me a great insight into how hard it can be for drivers to see bikers and cyclists. I wear hi-vis, brighter lights and make sure to make eye contact with drivers at junctions etc. If I have not seen their eyes, I assume they have not see me, and go on with care. I think the responsibility lies with both road users. Bikers who weave in and out of traffic, are asking for problems.
You should become a motorcycle instructor too! As an aside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_kpL4f4MXI&ab_channel=WKRG
As an IAM Roadsmart National Observer and Masters Distinction rider, I always tell people, whether that be my associates (people I train) or anyone else that it's possible to be dressed as a highlighter with flashing lights and a sign saying "I'm here" and yet never be spotted. I tell people to ride visibly, irrelevant of their clothing, lighting, ETC. I personally have a white helmet and wear a reflective vest that's black with silver reflective elements and occasionally, people miss me – but it's rare. When considering position, riders should consider the following in order – Safety, Stability, then View. Too many riders, even some advanced riders, will sacrifice safety or stability to get a slightly better view. It's better to miss an overtake opportunity to be able to get back home safely. Balance your approach to hazards and consider what hazard is going to be the bigger issue and don't be afraid to move your bike around on the road
Hey Richard, I passed my test first time on the 16th, largely due to your videos, so just wanted to thank you.
On a sidenote, I'm excited to say that I bought myself a 2009 Mazda 3 for a fantastic price. What an absolutely incredible car.
Would you ever own and ride a bike?
Another excellent video. The examples you've given are invaluable because they condence years of experience for new drivers to be aware of. As for the standards in other countries, I couldn't agree more, because in my country people aren't even expected to drive at the speed limit on their test. The recommendation is that you should do 30 kph in a 50. 🤦♂And that's with legal minimum 40 hours of lessons with qualified instructor. Not all complete the 40 hours, but still.
Another topic I would like you to cover is how the UK one of the safest countries to drive in and what sets it apart from the rest of the world. The would be an interesting watch!
I ride a tadpole recumbent trike (it's a trike with two wheels at the front, one at the back, with a reclined seat and pedals out front on a boom… Google 'ICE Trikes' if you can't picture it). I'm generally treated like equine on the roads; drivers pass me VERY wide and VERY slow, I think I scare them, lol! However, being so low to the ground, I've had to invest in fluorescent and reflective flags and streamers mounted to long poles. I also decked my trike out in no fewer than thirteen lights, not including the front and rear helmet lights.
I have all of these lights for three reasons: 1.) to bathe the ground surrounding my trike in light, so as to be more visible, 2.) to emit light in every direction, to be more visible, and 3.) I have two attached to each front fender, so they are aimed at where I'm turning when cornering, instead of out the front, where the factory light mount is.
Two of these lights are amber ones, and are directed at ninety degrees to the left and right, and are the highest mounted lights on the trike. These are for side-on visibility.
I also ride for safety and visibility. I'll take a primary position, close to the centre line, wherever possible, where there's nobody looking to overtake safely. That said, if someone does want to overtake, but I can see it's not safe, I won't move to secondary position (close to the nearside of the road), as I want to communicate with that driver that it is unsafe right now. As soon as I deem it safe (no junctions, opposing traffic, crossings and so forth), I'll move to secondary and often beckon the driver to proceed, should they wish to.
I've only had two 'incidents', which were really non-events.
First, I was passing a junction and a lady in a silver SUV moved forward, I thought she was going to T-bone me, so I shouted and she stopped… apparently, she hadn't seen me side-on, hence, I then bought and installed the side marker lights (and a very loud horn). Second was an impatient BMW driver trying to overtake just as I was about to signal right into a junction… I was in primary and signalled just as I saw him move out in my mirror, to stop him passing. That was a terrible place to try and pass anyway, and it was all down to impatience, but he didn't pass after all.
I still need brighter fender lights though… on the trails, I can't see where I'm going with the Knog Blinder lights I currently have.
It's the responsibility of all of us to keep the roads as safe as we can and share them with each other. Keep yourselves safe, and keep others safe too.
In case anyone's interested, my current light setup:
4 x Knog Blinder front fender lights, 2 x Knog Blinder front lights with amber tinting for side markers, 4 x Knog Blinder rear lights, 1 x Exposure TraceR rear light, 2 x Exposure Trace front lights on the front boom, plus front and rear helmet lights.
If you ever see a tit on a bent tadpole trike looking like a UFO, gimme a toot, lol!
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All of my lights are installed in such a way as to minimise dazzle to drivers, except for the helmet ones, as they're obviously on my head, lol!
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I forgot to mention, I also have two yellow wrist strap lights, which can serve as indicators, along with fluorescent yellow gloves, but I've not used the strap lights yet, and likely won't for some time, as I'm unable to ride for the foreseeable future due to illness.
My motorbiking days were put to bed in August 2020 on a random Thursday when I was on my to work and a girl did not give way, at a giveway junction, she just drove straight through as I was on the main road. Sure she wont make that mistake again.
The legend posting even on a bank holiday – love to see it mate, thanks for helping me pass my test last Saturday.
Honestly mate them figures really shocked me, when I’m emerging out of a side road onto a main road I always look left right and ahead repeatedly constantly until I can see that the road surface is 100% clear and safe.
The statistics at the start, or rather the 'and yet', are a bit strange. Modal share doesn't matter if you're doing accidents per mile.
There are loads more categories of unsafe drivers that you neglected to mention. It's interesting that you chose lapsed drivers and foreigners as your main two. Couldn't you think of any more? Furthermore, what about the many unsafe motorcyclists themselves?
You forgot to mention that some motorcyclists, and cyclists ride like lunatics.
4:00 – where he talks about missing an opportunity to go at the roundabout in order to ensure there are no motorcyclists, I have a feeling that many learner drivers would feel conflicted about this. Learners who hold back and miss an opportunity to go may fear being marked down on the driving test for undue hesitancy.
On that point I always thought deristricted german autobahns should be limited to german licence holders exclusively, foregners should be limited to standard 130 or 140 kmph. Also it would be more appropriate to have more frequent MOT inspections for cars to be allowed to go unrestricted. In italy a driving test is a short drive in town, not even backroads with moderate speeds. Not the kind of drivers you want to see at 250 kmph or more on the autobahn.
I'm one of those international drivers lol. Though I'm from the USA and had been driving for 30 years. I passed the theory & hazard perception test first time (after a lot of studying) and passed the practical driving test first time as well (no lessons, just lots of studying and practice). The driving test guy was a little confused why I didn't have an instructor with me, but it was easily explained.
Honestly the bit I've found the trickiest here is the sad state of the painted markings on the roads. It makes it really difficult to follow the road markings when you can't SEE the road markings.
There was a motorcyclist following me on the A497 around Caernarfon last week. They kept weaving from the middle of the lane to 3/4 out towards the centre. I suspect they were trying to be visible in my drivers wing mirror, yet often they were not visible at all. Neither were they visible in my rear view mirror, which is partially blocked by the sunvisor. Had they decided to floor it and over take me they could – to all intents and purposes – appeared out of NOWHERE……
I often think that everyone should learn to ride a motorcycle before they're allowed to drive a car. It really does give you a better idea of the dangers posed by cars.
Problem some motorcyclist don't think the road law counts to them. The amount of time, I have seen near misses, because a motorcyclist has decided they can overtake whenever they like or go as fast they want. I experienced one the other day, I was stuck behind a cyclist with two cars behind me, I checked my mirrors and everything before I decided to try to overtake, when a motorcyclist from down the road decided to other take the two cars behind me and myself, while I was overtaking, fortunately everything was fine but I was a bit shaken up about it all.
As I have always say: DO NOT GO unless you can see that the ROAD is clear, not when you can't see anything is coming.
When i got hit by a car turning right accross my path i had my position centre of the road watched the car slow down and had a car behind me . I believe the driver that hit me eyes got drawn to the car behind with it daylights. Obviously i don't know that for sure. Luckily for me i had the best witness a 360 degree camera off a bus who backed me up . I did for months keep thinking what could i have done differently apart from stopping to let them turn which was what the drivers insurance attitude. The police lady that dealt with the case after getting the evidence actually took the time to talk to us for about 2 hours about the incident and how i was coping afterwards on the bike on the road. I did tell her that even driving with all the protection i was nervous at junctions so i knew it wasn't a bike problem but had to build up trust in other drivers. Yes you cant fully trust but you also can't be a nervous wreck when driving and slam on the brakes every 2 seconds past a junction. The driver obviously never did on purpose and i have never seen a grown man so white with fright and had been crying. His first words was im so sorry i didnt see you. I was go to give a smart remark but did decide not to as he genuinely felt bad enough. Luckily for him i was up walking minus tearing my shoulder muscles from the impact when i had run out of escape routes i had closed my eyes expecting to go through the windows. Never did and hit the rear quarter panel i had worked out if they had turned 1 second sooner I would've missed them . At the time i thought hit the brakes stop directly in front broken legs
Next option swerve onto the opposite side only proplem a car following . I didn't fancy my chances. So only option was pray close my eyes and hope for a miracle . Of all the shit options it was the best 1 as I was relatively unharmed no idea how but was and that was with 0 protection. The 1 thing i will never ride without is lights it doesn't matter if sunny or dark . I seen just how even the shadow of a tree can hide a cyclist or motorcycle yet the first signal they are thier is a light. Not only that people much clever than me think it helps on a car. Its not about see the car its more to do with spotting it sooner which is the key point
10:00 this is me🤦🏿♀️ I'm having to do driving lesson's again.
I can't help but notice you never mentioned the class of driver that goes by many stereotypes – the ones I call pricks. Though to be fair that one's intentionally poor driving.
Another significant part, I think, is like the old Think Bike campaign poster. That poster was edited, it turns out, but I was in pretty much the exact situation the poster depicts recently, under better lighting conditions, and I very nearly didn't see the biker wearing black/silver hi-vis, and I found his speed very hard to judge.
Taking that extra split-second to watch for movement rather than taking a mental "snapshot" of the road can make all the difference.
Very interesting video cheers rich
I’m a car driver, biker, and cyclist.
I always assume that everyone else is an idiot, and when I’m on 2 wheels I also assume that I am invisible.
This video is spot on 👍
I have been driving 2 years now but spent 17 years on bike so I do tend to look out more for bikes and I do believe spending even two years on a bike can definitely help when you drive because you notice danger a lot sooner and are definitely more aware of everything around you
I'm curious; have you driven a motorcycle before Richard?
Some bikers really shouldn't be on the road, I'm doing 70 on the M6 and they go racing past at probably 100, people change lanes without signalling they haven't got a cat in hell's chance. It's the same on the local roads, I go up to usually 55 on the straight bits 35 on the bendy bits, again motor bikes just go racing past. I get that you've got to be careful at junctions, I am always very careful. What makes me really sad is how all the old courtesy has gone, letting people out when you don't have to, or letting them in when they're in the wrong lane. If somebody gets something wrong or stalls, I just wait patiently until they sort it and get going.
I rode a pedal bike for years, only got actually hit once, near missed though, real often. Some car drivers care and some really don't. My favourite for back of the neck crawling is the gently diverging junction to the left, cars can take the turn at speed and generally aim to do just that. If a bike is in the way they either drive around in front of it even if the bike is halfway across the junction or fail to see the bike totally. I actually had a car pass so close in a situation like this that the car hit a carrier bag hanging from the handlebars and turned the bike around the junction too as it passed.
I have just passed my test after learning to drive for over 2 years. I have had my car for a week but I feel like I’m a worse driver than ever I keep messing up. Is this normal 😭 x
Very informative, even for experienced drivers
Hello Sir,
I have been watching your videos for a year now.
I want to request you to make a video on
"How to drive a car with wing mirrors only".
As most of the time, family members would be sitting at back seat which makes center view mirror ineffective.
Looking forward for the video
Regards
Superb set of very good examples about blind spots. Sp many people sadly 'assume' the road is clear. I would love to see mandatory re-tests every 10 years. Not as thorough as the main test (maybe) but certainly something to recheck everyone with a license that they are still driving to the correct standards. Lots of things can change in 10 years; cars, roads, people, traffic volume, digital motorways etc. I realise that this is another cost to the motorist and that we may not have enough examiners, but the fact that some people can still drive 50+ years after passing their initial test with no further assessment is exceptionally scary. Driving standards on our roads are getting worse and will continue to do so unless people are reassessed.
I think another reason you don't touch on for why people become unsafe drivers is that certain personalities will slowly erode the safety of their driving over time. It's not like they pass their test and suddenly decide to start driving less than a car's length behind other cars or undertaking at 90, but their adherence to safety is slowly whittled away year by year as they get away with behaving more and more recklessly.
When I passed my motorcycle test 40 years ago most bikers knew it was a good idea to ride with headlights on during the daytime. Too often these days though, so many riders seem to ride without lights on, even though so many more cars now have daytime lights on all the time, thus making motorcycles even harder to see. It should be mandatory for motorcycles to have headlights switched on during daylight hours, and I mean worthwhile headlights, and not pointless sidelights.
12:26 – "I understand why its like that because you need that time to go to different countries and still be able to drive"
Do you really? I mean, there are people here that are in their 30s and have not learnt to drive, yet they still exist fine enough.
It is almost like the government doesn't have faith in the wonderous British public transport system.
Bikers should not be able to pass cars and weave.in.out of cars
Maybe more education should be given to bikers and cyclist who break traffic rules all the time.
Your talking about the bad drivers that are out there if they need refresher courses.
Foreign drivers are terrible
Just passed my driving test today, your videos have helped me a lot throughout my learning! I'll definitely keep watching your videos, there is always room for more leaning.
funny thing is, you'll probably get marked for hezitation on the test for a lot of the times you wait to clear a blindspot. Though I suppose you could verbalise this to the invidualtor
Adding to 'unsafe drivers', some are impatient and rush their observations as a result. Impatient drivers behind can also make those in front feel compelled to rush.
i passed my test almost a year ago but havent driven on the road since, mede me think maybe i should get refresher lessons
The best video I have seen on motorbike safety as seen from a third party – period.
Coming from Singapore, the standards of training and passing is quite high and the passing requirement here is not exceeding 20 demerit and no immediate failure. If you can somewhat relate to it
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It's not surprising: if a vehicle driver can miss you driving a CAR right in front of them, they can miss anything!
Bicycle or motorbike, their section is narrow so that's an issue with visibility; they can be obscured by an 'A' pillar – motorists have to very aware & move their view to check.
Riders need to make themselves visible by road positioning, clothing, lights etc. They're just so vulnerable.