Because of the potential danger of being hit from behind, which is higher than if you were driving a motor vehicle, you have to sometimes be careful when giving away priority. This doesn’t mean that it never happens though!
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hi everyone welcome to nice cycling 9 now this is something that we’ve covered in detail recently on the other channel it’s giv way to pedestrians at the exit and the entrance to roundabouts although this is nice cycling because it’s what you should be doing you should be given the pedestrians priority in a situation like this please don’t put yourself at any risk There You Go sir now off you sir go it’s I you have a good day most of the time other Road users behind aren’t aware of this situation just like we can see with The Pedestrian here if you have any doubt of any of the vehicles approaching from behind and the pedestrians are waiting at the side my advice would be just to carry on my viewer did a great job here and they also kept themselves safe well [Music] done [Music] following on from the first clip it’s this type of situation that you have to be really careful of when you’re cycling and in fact when you’re driving as well although my viewers trying to be nice I wouldn’t have given way in this particular situation the traffic’s flowing and the lights up ahead are on green when my viewer holds back to wait for the pedestrians the pedestrians only then start to cross the road when my viewer Waits The seemed to be no vehicles after this black Nissan to the left hand side so the pedestrians could have walked and crossed the road if my viewer had have continued it didn’t cause any issues in this scenario my viewer wasn’t at risk because there’s no one behind but if you change priority in other words let someone go when they don’t have priority it can cause confusion so again just be careful notice also my view is still behind this red Jaguar so in the end it didn’t cost them any time but don’t forget forget the lights were on green initially that’s all right no worries I know some hores don’t like bikes do they yeah so I yeah thank you I always give a shout when I come class thank you take care thank you the clip spoke for itself nice work this clip also speaks for itself well done to everyone for givingway to the pans it’s also some really good footage from a vfo dash cam if you need a dash cam or even a bike cam please check out the links in the description use the code Ashley and save yourself a further 5% in this clip I’d like you to listen to how my viewer changes their speed on the approach to risk and Hazard and it also involves this keia Picanto to my viewers right they keep it in front which gives them more options if there was any issue [Music] simple but effective risk management not all cyclists who ride with cameras are out to make a meal of things every single time they go on a journey a poor emerge turned into a non-event this is also my style of cycling I also continually ask myself whether I’ve been seen or not and show caution when I don’t think I have picking the correct time to filter or not in my opinion is quite a difficult skill and it’s also one that I need to improve with but I think my viewer gets the correct balance here unlike some other Road users these lights aren’t going to be long before they change and the bus is right at the front of the queue where are these two people going to go all they did is put themselves in a potential conflict with another road user wishing to use the same space whether it be pedestrians crossing the road the bus in front of us or in fact oncoming traffic none of which happened to my viewer well done in this episode we’ve talked about quite a bit about giving way to to people when required and when not required but this is one situation where it was good to hold back my View’s exit road is blocked so there’s no point holding up the rest of the traffic even though the post office fan was going into the junction my viewer was going into this was still a good idea but again always be mindful of motorists arriving behind who aren’t expecting you to do this no choice but to give way here because The Pedestrian didn’t look look but you’ve got to be ready for it my viewers on a road that isn’t providing enough room for any vehicle to overtake sometimes it might be an idea to slow down and give way to that vehicle behind to allow them to make progress up the road this section looks as though it’s slightly uphill and it doesn’t look as though my view is quite near that 20 mph speed limit so I think this was a good idea in this [Music] situation [Music] I think this was also another good time to seed priority but remember try not to be bullied into this situation there are plenty of factors that go into your decision whether or not to give way and with the self-preservation on this one though there’s no in the world I would have wanted to be anywhere near that tractor and trailer on this Bend good sh I think this is a simple but effective decision in this situation there’s a potential conflict of space so hold back did anyone else get on to which way this blue BMW’s slightly pointing I think my viewer did an earlier signal would definitely have helped but if you really switched on it doesn’t really matter that much even here my viewer was really early on working out the positioning of that blue BMW they knew it was going to park in nice riding to finish we’ve got another decision when to seed priority or not and this is an absolute classic also it’s sort of a combination of a few of the other Clips all rolled into one my viewers going straight on at the roundabout and that’s going to put them directly next to to this big lorry that reduces the chance of them being seen and increases risk so they just hold back perfect this position also now gives my viewer a good view of the traffic coming on the roundabout behind the Lorry they can still easily do a safe emerge and they’re not in the Lor’s blind spot even now resisting the temptation to go past is an important decision this Lor still could have taken this exit my viewer was going into thanks a lot to everyone who sends in these brilliant Clips keep safe out there and I hope to see you next time
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At around 5:50, although not the subject of the clip, I'm surprised at how close that zebra crossing is to the exit road. I know we've discussed this whole aspect of giving pedestrians priority at roundabout exits and Ashley mentions that at the beginning of this video. I do question the wisdom of this and to have a formally marked crossing right on the exit. As a pedestrian, I'd be very wary.
I hereby endorse the cyclist in the. 1st video. They get my nod of approval. Most cyclists behave this way ❤
Not sure I entirely agree with the first clip, give way, sure, but if someone declines the priority you're offering then don't argue the point, just move on because otherwise you're essentially pressuring them to go. Plus you just get caught in a "you go, no you go, no you go" politeness loop.
Great vision, awareness and self preservation shown by your 🎥 viewers. We need to see a lot more of this.
The 'us' and 'them" mentality was rather conspicuous by its overall absence.
@7:25 I'm almost shocked to see a BMW use an indicator although, as stated, the road positioning was a good clue as to probable intent.
Stay safe out there 👍
Its fine giving way but if there is a big empty space behind you. It actually safer for everyone to carry on and let the pedestrian cross after. The last thing anyone should do is stop to give when traffic is flowing and the pedestrian feels obliged to cross especially in 2 lane traffic the last thing you want is 1 lane giving way and the other lane not giving way. Fair enough in stop start traffic but free flowing you have to be carefu that kindnesses doesn't put someone in danger.
Some of the Twitter cycling fraternity will be furious at Ashley suggesting that holding back can help diffuse potential risk.
I'm not worthy.
It's great to see some really good cyclists out there knowing how to keep themselves safe, help best flow for everyone, knowing the best times for priority and keeping safe within the rules. It would be nice to see all cyclists ride in good manners like these clips.
Flat bars and knobbly of course they will let them cross the road.
This raises a really good point about cycling because, after all, a picture should bike is just another vehicle on the road. Maybe some cyclists want to go at maximum speed and while it is more effort to build the speed up on a push bike than a car, it is more effort to build speed in a more economical cat than a sports car, you wouldn't drive at full speed all the time so it's not a great idea to do the same when cycling. Was interesting to hear you mention letting a road user cross when there is nothing behind. I tend to continue if it is clear behind as that is where the road user is looking to emerge and it can slow things down and cause confusion if they are planning to get in behind you anyway
Agree that when a vehicle is driving fast and is close behind our bike, it's best to not give way to let a pedestrian cross. (Assuming we have a green light of course.) The driver may not see the pedestrian or may not be expect us to stop. On the rare occasions that a pedestrian walks out anyway in front of my bike, I'm usually able to slow down and skirt around them. And if I can't avoid making some contact with the pedestrian, the pedestrian is likely to be less injured by my bike as I'm slowing than I am by a car rear-ending me.
If a pedestrian tells me 'it's alright', as in, I'll wait, I don't argue with them. They will have their reasons, even if one of those reasons might be just being polite. On the other hand, they may see or know something we have missed.
I should add, nice cycling. Horses and HGVs require special attention and this rider did that. Talking to the horse rider is good because the horse will know you're there.
2:09 Horses can be totally freaked out by bikes. The reason is that they are hard wired to be wary of silently moving predators. They can cope with cars because they can hear them first, but if something silent suddenly appears they can freak out. I always give a shout out from some distance, "bicycle approaching" so that the horse hears something is behind.
0:20 I would add that you're not just potentially putting yourself at risk by yielding to pedestrians like this when cycling, but also potentially putting the pedestrian at risk. If it's totally safe and nobody is behind, then it's ok, but often you don't actually need to stop in order to yield to a pedestrian when cycling. In this instance, just by moving towards the right side of the lane would have given the pedestrian all the space they needed to cross the road.
I’m the person that was giving priority to pedestrians crossing. A couple of things you can’t see on camera is that I always check behind to see what the driver behind is doing and then do a hand gesture to let the driver know that I’m slowing down. 😊
Wouldn't life on the roads be far simpler if all cyclits acted in this way, i suppose we can dream.
Some drivers won't even stop when cyclist stops at a zebra crossing when the pedestrian wants to cross or even on the crossing. Pretty dangerous if you ask me!
The commercial areas in the first section of the video look awfully familiar. I swear they were used in some of the hazard perception clips on my recent D1 theory test.
6.05 YES. People on bikes should think of this more often, especially on narrow country roads.
The majority of those clips made me hanker for warm days in the saddle!
A fine compilation. Wish all cyclists adopted this mindset & I was impressed in particular with the footage from Richmond and Twickenham. I’m local to these areas and sadly, some aren’t this well-behaved.
Does anyone know the location of the Viofo clip with the zebra crossing. Looked like the Whitley Bay area, but I’m not 100% sure
I don’t get cyclists stopping to let pedestrians cross really,
Either there is someone behind and they risk getting knocked off, or there is no one behind, then they may as well continue and the pedestrians will cross 3 seconds later.
Completely pointless
I saw a someone ride a cycle tonight with only a white light at the rear and no helmet or reflective clothing straight out on to a busy carriageway without looking, then swerve round a bus (also without looking). They then sped up as the traffic lights ahead turned to amber and rode straight through the red light. Good to see some good cycling for a change!
7.41 – Sorry, but walking in the road is bad enough. Walking with a bike in the road, is even worse. However for a full score, do both of those things on the WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD.. wtf is that man doing 🤦
Excellent compilation!
I'm a cyclist and I rate myself when navigating the roads, I find I have most problems with drivers who make 'second decisions' with excessive speeds that screws my cycling waaay up.. why can't they slow down, what's the rush, they're sitting down, why don't they enjoy the ride in their lovely motor vehicle, powered steering, away from the elements which I'm enduring even excepting their problems..how can they be soo bad on the roads!
I must admit when people on my right at a roundabout give me priority, it does make it a touch more tricky. I know they're being nice letting me go first and get to a safer place but it always feels awkward especially when it leads to everyone waiting on everyone, and then I have to be the one to break thay and go which could possibly be more dangerous.
I just happened to note that in my state, it is illegal for a road user to overtake or go alongside a truck (lorry) in a roundabout.
I've reached the age where, if I'm going a decent distance, and somebody catches up to me, I will help them overtake when it is safe, because I'm probably not going to see them, again.
I'm always of two minds when it comes to ceding priority to overtaking vehicles. I often wonder if it doesn't reinforce the idea bikes should get out of the way.
That said, I've helped out trucks and buses before now because it's much harder for them to get past. I'd help tractors too if there were any where I cycle! 🙃
what's your view on the overtake at 2:58? overtaking a cyclist whilst they are setting off and still a bit wobbly is the worst time to overtake that close.
I do find it annoying when a vehicle is stopped at a red light and only turns their indicator on once the light changes to green – Ipswich buses are quite prone to this.
Did the cyclist force the old fella to cross the road (@0.47) when he was unwilling to? The pedestrian should be free to make their own decision. Is this good cycling? It’s lovely to see cyclists doing the right thing.
7:02 recumbent giving way to tractor? He needs to go faster. (recumbents are seriously fast)
The second clip was just dangerous, inviting people to step into a carriageway when other vehicles may arrive. In the Collision Regs, the HC equivalent for ships, it is a requirement that 'the stand on vessel should not alter course or speed until collision cannot be avoided by the actions of the give way vessel alone.' This imposition of a responsibility, not a right, avoids the confusion and dithering which will otherwise arise.
videos like this warm my soul! Thanks!
6:30 , that's more than slightly uphill. Hill Rise in Richmond.
Some very nice cycling and some daft drivers .🤔
I think there are still major issues regarding giving way to pedestrians at junctions. I simply don't think it's sate to give way on entering a junction, or leaving a roundabout. Yes, of course, always be ready to stop for unobservant pedestrians that just step out, but stopping on entry to a junction or exiting a roundabout is almost certain to cause conflict and, because of the negligible dissemination of information on the subject, confusion. I strongly feel that this needs to be changed so that vehicles should be required give way to others lower down the hierarchy on exiting junctions or entering roundabouts only. All, of course, when it is safe to do so
At 07:39 – Nice cycling – up to that point – but then they ride into the door zone going past three parked cars. that's definitely a danger point, and one that I always seek to avoid. Even if most drivers look for cyclists, some passengers don't give them a thought.
2nd clip is Twickenham SW London
Plenty of great riding here that cyclingmikey could take note of, especially considering one of his more recent videos… The explatives he uses towards those who challenge his method speaks volumes.
4:08 – I can't think who you mean, Ash … 😉
Hi Ashley
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You see plenty of videos showing bad cyclists and the type provoking incidents so its great to see videos like this that show nice examples of cycling
So far as the first clip is concerned, please clarify in terms of the Highway Code, why the pedestrian had priority? This is what HC says:
"give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way (see Rule H2)"
My point is whether or not this particular roundabout configuration and pedestrian ‘safe island crossing point’ comes within the HC requirements for giving priority to pedestrians. As a cyclist or driver, I don’t think you can be described as turning into or out of a junction – yet!
Watching through the playlist for nice cycling, could the other nice cycling videos (on the other channel) be put into this playlist. It would be good to have them all in one place.
I think ive learnt something from the clip towards the end of the cyclist giving room to the lorry on the roundabout. Good idea.