Everybody um thanks for taking the time to come and listen to this presentation today it’s sort of a two-step presentation I’m going to speak a little bit about our plans for the northern Arland trusted research environment uh the background to the space of trusted research environments and what it means
For us here in the hsse a little bit about secondary uses legislation and a little bit about public involvement in this space with patients as our partners um I’m just going to share my screen so um I left time at the end of this presentation for questions or if you
Think of something while we’re going along please just put it in the chat and we will get it at the end so today I’m going to talk to you a little bit around work that involves how we will deliver our expectations and aspirations within the data strategy I Know Dan presented
You Dan West our chief digital information officer spoke to this um um dispatches um in January so what I’m talking about today fits under the data strategy which is one of our regional strategies that we’re currently delivering and within that the work of the data Institute so as Lisa said the
Northern Ireland trusted um research environment is part of the delivery of the data Institute and it’s a piece of infrastructure that helps us to realize the impact and improvements from digitization of the HSA and the use of our data so before we go forward I’m I’m going to go backwards slightly we’re
Here in in 2024 but if we go back 20 years ago we need to look at the different points of decision making and governance that have led us to where we are now in the use of our data and when we say secondary uses people automatically assume that means
Research however as the use of data changes over time secondary uses and the definition of secondary uses has been changing as well so secondary use can be audit it can be evaluation and it can be research so going back 20 years ago we saw the establishment of the Northern
Ireland research Ethics Committee orn part of a UK wide infrastructure around ethics and you’ll see why that feeds into trusted research environments whenever we move through we had the research governance framework set up which was a way in which we received and managed and handled applications for research projects and of course data
Research fits within that family we saw the establishment of a privacy advisory committee advisory and its capacity because it’s not currently a statutary body and I’ll speak a little bit about the regulations that will enable that going forward and then we saw the legislation in 2016 around secondary
Uses of data there’s an interesting time Point here in 2019 and 20 which obviously saw covid-19 and our responses to that since 2020 to where we are now there has been a seismic shift both in the four nations and wider in how we utilize Health and Social care data and
In the Public’s understanding and engagement with the use of their data and how it impacts them both in their receip of care and more widely in in society and how we can use Health and Social care data to their benefit within the space of Norther trusted research environment the things
That are important to us and that I’m going to touch on with within this presentation are these pieces so as I’ve said the build out of the trusted research environment Falls within the data strategy and the data Innovation um aspect of that we’re going to look a little bit about legislation that
Surrounds this and governance in 2022 there was a paper on called better broader safer and known as the gold acre report which sets standards for how we should use Health and Social care data for research and Analysis since then last year we saw the oasy review the
Oasy review is a UK response to clinical trials and how to build up our clinical trial capability since that was greatly impacted during Co and we had some great demonstrators of use of data during covid and obviously whenever we’re talking about use of data to support clinical trial activity and to support
Research the use of trusted research environments become an enabler in a wider context at the minute we’re seeing the data protection and digital information Bill going through the United Kingdom that’s one that could actually have a presentation all to itself but in Northern Ireland we need to see how that piece of legislation
Will affect our handling and use of of data and the implications of gdpr or anything that might um result in changes to the data protection act we also have seen last year HSC R&D have established a new research approval service which centralizes applications for request for clinical trials and research in Northern
Ireland to make us um make it easier for researchers and for people to engage with the hsse system for research and of course provisioning of data to support research is a key element of that so I just wanted to show that a trusted research environment is a very it’s a
Very Niche area it’s a very specific thing with a a number of people who might want to utilize it but the provisioning of data within those and the support of research search and evaluation has a much wider impact and this is where we have come in the 20
Years since the establishment of our research Ethics Committee and the research governance framework in 2003 so at the minute in Northern Ireland some of you will be aware that we have the honest broker service the honest broker service is a data Safe Haven established 20 years ago and the
Role of the honest broker service was to give researchers access to trust data that was held in our regional data warehouse and to put a governance system around the application process to use that data the honest broker service was a key resource for Northern Ireland participating during covid in what we
Called National core studies so in part of the covid-19 response and research response the UK government funded National core studies and one of those was called the data and connectivity National core study and that saw significant investment across the United Kingdom including Northern Ireland to set up infrastructures that would allow
Us to use our data for research one of the things that we did was to ensure that the data that was currently held within our regional data warehouse was advertised with the with an innovation Gateway on Health Data research UK I can send all these links
Out at the end so if you’re interested in going and looking at these um pieces of infrastructure where our data is held you can have a look yourself new principles were published by hdor UK and by the HDR Alliance in around how we improve public confidence in the use of data through Trust
Research environments and that saw us here in Northern Northern Ireland along with the recommendations from the gold acre report to set up the Northern Ireland trusted research environment so that’s to build out on the capabilities and the structures that we have in the honest broker service more widely to
Ensure that we can provide the best quality of data and analytics for secondary use of our data the Norther trusted research environment is one of the three pillars of the data Institute so along with coding and standards and analytics and insights the Norland trusted research environment focuses on the development
Of data and connectivity infrastructure to enable collaboration and use of our data and by collaboration that means collaboration with our patients our public with clinical academics with data analysts and that’s with those within the HSA but with Partnerships that we would have with other Health Service organizations and with um with academic
Institutions and with industry where we have the appropriate governance controls in place so what is a trusted research environment trusted research environments are also sometimes called secure data environments people have often use the term a safe haven um but trusted research environment is the common common name used for data safe
Havens which are created for a research purpose they are typically digital in their in in their delivery some of them used to be Standalone units where you used to have to go in literally into a physical safe setting and sit at a computer that that was not connected to
Any other system or process to enable you to work on data which was deemed sensitive in the past 10 years the digitization and their capabilities for access to data have saw that greatly improved and in Northern Ireland three years ago we enabled remote access to data via the honest broker service to
Allow researchers from across the UK to collaborate on research for the benefit of our patients and our public so how is data safeguarded one of the principles under trusted research environments and you saw I’ve shown you some of the HDR UK Alliance documentation on setting better standards for use of Tres the
Principles that we work under are called the five safes safe people safe projects safe settings sa safe data and safe outputs safe people means that researchers or data analysts who wish to work on the data have to be specially accredited and that accreditation is a standalone UK level accreditation that
Is not given by the hsse so it provides a level of security and assurance that researchers are trained and have and have been um aware of data standards and capabilities before they’re allowed to access our data safe projects again going back to the establishment of the UK research ethics committees and we
Also have University ethics committees only projects which have been through a rigorous ethical review and also a peer review for their scientific methodology will be permitted to use CF heavens and again that ethical review and the scientific peer review are both independent of each other and independent of the TR so again another
Level of independent Assurance of before somebody comes in to work in our data safe settings means that the access to the data is only possible through secure systems and again that is the provisioning of the digital infrastructure much of which has been rapidly improved under our Digital Data
Strategies in the last two years and will continue to do so in the following years safe data means that when researchers come into a trusted research environment and they’ve requested some information from the library of data that is held for a particular research project they will only have access to
Deidentified data that means the identifiable such as a patient’s name address or any other characteristics that would enable them to be identified from within the data set are are removed so researchers only see privacy protected data within the analysis setting once they have conducted their analysis and they want to produce
Outputs which may lead to Publications or lead to policy reports or audit and evaluation may be used then to change your use Services those outputs go through what is called disclosure control so again an independent person from within the trusted research environment will review the outputs of
The analysis again to ensure that the privacy of the individuals within the data sets is protected and that no one is identifiable from the data analysis so the Northern Ireland trusted research environment and the honest broker service that currently sits within it sits within a re of other trusted research environments and secure
Data environments across the world there are classically brilliant examples that exist in Canada and in Australia but more locally here we have public health Scotland’s Adis service in Wales they have the SE Data Bank the British Heart Foundation data science center is exemplary in the work that it does in
The UK and Q research exists in Oxford University so that’s just a flavor of the types of trusted or secure data environments that exist each secure data environment is different both in its or its organization and it and in its governance support so some of these secure data environments exist just
Within universities such as Q research some of them exist within Public Health framework such as adris and public health Scotland and some are our collaboration between the two so the s data bank for example is governed and delivered by NHS Wales but also with Swansea and Cardiff University together
So there are different models of orchestrations of secure data environments but the principles and standards that they work to commonly agreed through what is the UK Health Data research Alliance which I have stated in the middle and which Neer is a member of as you can see from the map
They set the standards um and provisioning that we expect people to be able to evidence and support in order for us to be able to provide Assurance to our patients and to individuals as data is held Within These secure data environments and indeed to data controllers the how the data is held
Processed and used for analysis is safe so the Norther AR trusted research environment our vision and what we know good looks like will be a fully integrated longitudinal primary and secondary care data set for the hsse that is accessible through a safe data environment currently we have Regional
Data warehouse which which holds some of the data sets which originate within the trusts there’s a system of governance that allows the data controllers from within the trust to allow individuals access to that data through the honest broker service with the roll out of our digital um our digital and data
Strategies and with the improvements that we are making both with epic and Encompass there are challenges that exist in how we retain access to some of the longitudinal data sets that epic will replace and how do we link data retrospectively and prospectively to give us that vision of Health and Social
Care data that we want to utilize in order for that to be a data product that we can use for benefit for our patients the north Arland trusted research environment aims to create create a collaborative space to support establishment of those data Partnerships to bring clear benefit to the use of our
Data this is all for secondary use however a lot of the work that we would do through evaluation and through audit of dat of data impact on the primary delivery of care in Northern Ireland so it’s not always for a research purpose and research itself and delivery of
Research is recognized as part of the patient care pathway so going back to the three pillars of the data instit Ute one of the pillars is analytic capability with the roll out of our digital strategy and during Co the Northern Ireland Health analytics platform give us a digital
Capability that we simply didn’t have in Northern Ireland before with the Northern Ireland Health analytics platform as the driver digital framework underneath running underneath the Northern Ireland trusted research environment we have the capability and skills and tools to do things with our data that we previously couldn’t so some
Of the information that you see here I’m sure you’ve seen before in relation to the health analytics platform and our digital capability if you look at the words used here like Registries and dashboards and platforming what that would allow us to do is to ingest vast quantities of data from data sets across
The HSC and map those together link those together and provide a governance structure through the Northern Ireland trusted research environment to be able for those to be used as a data asset and resource for secondary purposes that’s why the data Institute I’m bringing together the elements of coding and analytics and governance
Under The Trusted research environment is critical to our success in maximizing the inputs from the investment that we have through our data and digital strategies so what I’ve been talking about today refers very much to this data safe use hierarchy so what we’ve been speaking about is the use of data
For secondary purposes whether that be research evaluation or audit but what I’m going to talk to you now is about the use of patient identifiable information so within a trusted research en enironment the data that is accessed is deidentified by default what we’re going to talk about now is the potential
For use of patient information in an identifiable way um for purposes other than Direct Care so this is in relation to the Health and Social care control of data processing act 2016 some of you will know this as the secondary secondary use act but what this does is allows
Northern Ireland to sit alongside England and Wales to have a statutory body which would have a common law duty to review applications to use patient identifiable data for purposes other than Direct Care so some of you in the call might be aware of the confidentiality Advisory Group in the UK
This would have a similar function to the confidentiality Advisory Group so where an individual within or outside of the hsse wishes to use patient identifiable data for purpose other than Direct Care and where they believe that that is in the circumstance for Health and Social care purpose and is in the
Public interest they must make an application to this statutory body to get permission to use data in that way the legislation requests that the regulations support that this this statutory body which will have a public appointed chair and Deputy chair that there will be a statutory code of practice and patient confidentiality so
We currently have an advisory code of practice for patient confidentiality that will become a statutory code we will have to develop and Implement a regional op out system that will mean that the Northern Ireland public will have a portal by which they can request that their personal identifiable
Information is not used for secondary purpose which in this case would be evaluation or research and there will be the creation of criminal offenses for the breach of regulations so it’s quite a serious piece of legislation for Northern Ireland it was drafted in 2016 and I’m the lead for the implementation
Of the regulations following that legislation in 2016 so what does that mean in Practical terms in Practical terms what we’re looking at here to the left hand side of the screen are some of the UK Registries and audits that exist that currently Northern Ireland data cannot be shared
With this is both a practice and quality issue for Northern Ireland so at the minute we do not have a legal Gateway or a statutory body that would allow our practitioners to request that identifiable information is shared from Northern Ireland to some of these UK Audits and evalu ation structures what
That means is that our information cannot then be evaluated for patient outcomes and compare that to UK standard outcomes not being able to do that means that we’re lacking the information to inform the delivery of practice and shape our policies so this statutory body will allow that to happen and
Enable this to happen on the right hand side of the screen you can see a collection of different research Enterprises nior catric which is based in Dairy data can which is a health research hub for cancer Belfast smart cities and isic forc which is a covid-19 research um program all of which have
Been inhibited in Northern Ireland participation because we do not have a statut body whereby identifiable data can be shared or used Within These initiatives for our patient and public benefit because we simply don’t have the legal framework and the statutory framework to consider and support the
Use of data in that way the reason why nigher is in the middle is because whenever you want to bring information into a trusted research environment or secure data environment the data that you bring in is identifiable in the first instance that data is then stripped out of its identifiers to allow
It to be used in a privacy protected way but if you want to bring that data from the hsse system into a secure data environment we would need the authorization of a stategy body to permit us to use that identifiable data in a secondary way but with the
Provisioning that we’re doing it to make it de identifiable so that we can put it to good use so these are the ways in which this legislation is an enabler for us and is a very very um it’s a piece of legislation that stretches Way Beyond research and much more into quality
Improvement and practice outcomes so what does all of this mean I’ve showed you in 20 years that we have had a seismic shift in how we approach research in general and data research as a nature area within that the data that we use within the HSC and the data
That’s generated across the UK across this island across Europe and the world has affected how people perceive what we do with their data and their feelings towards that up until two years ago Northern Ireland was the only part of the United Kingdom that did not have its own Standalone public panel to discuss
The use of data myself and my colleague Elizabeth Nelson from the administrative data Research Center took some investment money from the data and connectivity National course study and we developed a pilot program to develop the Northern Ireland public data panel so along with the really public engagement and patient engagement that
We have in Northern Ireland both in our consented research models and in things like peer which is our patient involvement and engagement for research panel this will sit as a piece of infrastructure that exist between health and other infrastructures the north Ireland public data panel is not just a
Health health initiative to engage the public in discussions around the use of their data we have an advisory panel which has represented from sale Data Bank in Wales from research data Scotland Belfast City Council and involve and they are helping us to shape best practice on how we
Deliver the nor irland public data panel it was as I said funded initially from some money from hdor UK and we have just received some money from HSC or in the Nic or RG program we were moving to recruit members to the public data panel this summer The reason why these two
Slides um I think they’re slightly unprofessional but the reason why they appear like that and why npdp doesn’t have a logo or a tagline is that the key per permission of within the npdp is that it will be co-developed with those who are members of the committee we
Won’t decide on the look and fail of nip its logo its tagline or indeed its um development and and sustainability model until we actually have members of the public on the panel to be actively engaged in the development of the infrastructure itself I’m very pleased that Northern Ireland now can say that
We have a public public data panel um and we’ve already had lots of requests for topics in relation to the use of data to be brought to the panel so when it’s up and running maybe we’ll come back and talk to you about who’s a member and some of the topics that we’re
Going to discuss but the main thing that I’ll be looking at is developing public data literacy defining what Public public good means whether that be from a patient perspective or from a member of the public and to increase and the utilization of the public as our Resource as stakeholders to support us
And actually challenge and what we do with the use of their data some of the stakeholders that we worked with in terms of nip are quite diverse we worked with understanding patient data we worked with hduk nicka the councelor registry and bernardos as well across the UK we took a service
Design approach which means that we looked at the models of delivery for other public panels and patient panels and um survey organizations to see what the best approach would be particular to Northern Ireland and dark population and that will continue to evolve and change with the co-production model that we
Have with npdp when it’s up and running so the overall benefit of a trusted research environment and what would be the benefit of the Northern Ireland trusted research environment nether is that it is a collaboration space it is a space that makes um a collaboration cost effective for the HSA
And for researchers themselves for our patients and for our public so I hope that through the demonstration of some of the logos and the engagements and collaborations and Partnerships that we’ve already undertaken and that you can see demonstrated through this presentation um we’ll we’ll will’ll um demonstrate that to you if there’s
Anybody in the call that wants to come and work with Niger or who wants to hear some more about some of the models and approaches we have here I’ll be more than happy to speak to you after the presentation um at this point given that ner is a collaborative workspace I’d
Like to acknowledge all my colleagues in the H our patients and our public and in particular the staff of the Northern Ireland honest broker service HSC R&D and the administrative data research center Northern Ireland in Queens and olster who have been very supportive along with Health Data research UK in
Supporting us in developing the north Ireland trusted research environment which now is a pillar of the Northern Ireland data Institute and that is ner thanks Lisa thank you Francis so we’ll have a we bit of opportunity now for if there’s any questions and I think actually
There’s one in the chat if I’m right from Eddie um Eddie are you still on the call do you maybe want to speak to your question yourself I am on the call and I and I can talk Hi Well Done great presentation so yeah I think you’ve kind of answered
The question a little bit as you’ve gone I think you’ve because you used you know research and then you went on to talk a bit about audit and evaluation separately so I I think I think my interpretation is that when you use the word research you did mean to include a
And evaluation activities as well um and I suppose where I was trying to get to was those safe standards that you outlined I think the first one was see if people uh and people had to undertake certain um accreditation and training things so yeah my question is if someone
From in the HSC wanted to do some audit evaluation type activities would they also have to go through the same uh standards of accreditation that’s kind of where we’re trying to get to yeah it’s a really good question so the research audit evaluation cycle most
People on the call will be used to it but as we’ve moved forward obviously those lines become slightly blurred so in a strict sense the answer is no if you’re an external researcher you need to have a researcher accreditation to access the data if you were conducting a
Local audit based on your own data then no you would not need a separate permission to work on that data um So within the secure data environment you might have data from other sources held within the data Institute and within the secure data environment which might require permissions for you to access it
So there are different standards for Access I think is what you’re getting at so as a researcher there are different accreditations and standard for Access than there would be for service evaluation or audit however one of the things that we need to do Under the secure under the data Institute and more
Widely within the hsse is to decide what standards of training and accreditation are actually needed to work with data now that we are providing these new innovative ways for people to access it and to manipulated so it’s a very valid question and it’s one that we need to
Look at in a regional sense I was on a call on Tuesday at a UK level where we were discussing the determination of what is the use of data for a secondary purpose when the use of research within Direct Care can affect the outcomes of direct care or the provision of direct
Care and therefore the use of data would be considered Direct Care even though it’s for research so for example if you were somebody who was on a Cancer Care pathway you might be using that person’s data to change their care pathway because um research is is part of the
Delivery of care services under cancer so therefore you’re using data for a direct purpose even though research is involved within it that’s not withstanding access within a secure data environment so what we need to look at in terms of people’s access and utility of data is what requirements are needed
For somebody to be a competent person working with data in their normal day-to-day work and what are the accreditations and training we expect whenever they enter a secure data environment which is a different space again does that answer your question I think so so I think you said
Um I’m going to summarize it my own words from my own brain uh you’ve said the same standards do not necessarily apply to staff within the HSC but it’s something we need to work at it is something we need to look at there are standards for accessing data within a
Secure research environment regardless of who that person is and there are other standards of governance that are required if you’re accessing data for research purpose okay thank you you’re welcome I guess sorry I just so I guess when it comes to the whole um building the confidence within the
Citizen domain about how we’re looking after their data yeah that’s maybe one aspect that maybe probably needs to be progressed doesn’t it because people it’s reasonable for people to want to know absolutely how has been used and who’s looking at it so the five safs are based on transparency
The five safs principle is based on transparency whether that be as I said that that term is interchangeable a secure data environment or secure research environment there are people who use data for audit purposes that is part of their job and part of their role primarily whenever you’re accessing data
In a safe data environment for a research purpose you are not somebody who is involved in the direct care of a person you are strictly using that data for a secondary purpose and that comes with caveats and training and requirement to allow you to access that data okay Francis there’s another
Question in the chat um how complicated is bringing forward the legislation um so bringing forward the legislation is not necessarily comp is not necessarily complicated there are just steps to Bringing forward regulation that have to be adhered to that includes public consultation around the regulations itself and consultation
With stakeholders who will be affected by the regulations some of which have demonstrated here um in the presentation um we were um hampered by not having a sitting assembly or a minister for health or a health committee who are need needed in order to progress the
Regulations but now that we have that it should be a less complicated process we have the mechanisms in place to take it forward thank you um another question um if assistance is required from the system owners to extract specific data files how will their efforts be resourced that’s a really good question
So it’s one of the capabilities under the data Institute and under the the digital and data strategies more widely is to look at how we can support Stak holders across the system to bring data into Central Holdings and enable them to be used more widely um one of the ways
That we can do that Under The Trusted research environment is to um attract external funding for research purposes under the ospice of using data in that way um but in terms of um more widely across the system that will be part of the support mechanisms within the digital and data
Strategy thank you are there any other questions just Francis if I can come in with one yeah so You’ mentioned that there’s uh topics that that are already being suggested for the public data panel and just pure Curiosity on my point part um can you offer any sort of
Information as to what that includes at this point yeah so um there’s a lot of conversation around what is public benefit and what is public good there are some legal definitions around public benefit and public good and we use those terms interchangeably um and when we are conducting research T people would
Typically give a public benefit or a patient benefit to research AR being undertaken I think we need to get more specific and one of the topics is to what do we actually mean by public good or public benefit and who gets to say what that is and what are the balances
And checks to understand what a public benefit is so I know that we uh some people in this call have been involved in ethical considerations for research and use of data and ethically something might be of benefit to a cohort of patients but be a disbenefit or a
Neutral benefit to other people the same applies Lisa whenever we’re looking at what is a public benefit to use of data so it’s what does that mean for Northern Ireland and what is how do we articulate that to people in Northern Ireland how do they understand that to be and how
Different or similar is that whenever you’re looking at public benefit or patient benefit for Health Data and what that means for social care data or what does that mean for local government data um so that’s one of the things that’s one of the questions that have come up
The other topics that have come up are around the public sensitivity to or support for using Health and Social care data outside of Health and Social care so we’ve had some examples during Co for example where local government wished to use some Health and Social care data and for governance reasons they weren’t
Enabled to do so or it was complicated in the pathways to getting access and use of that data so again how does the public feel about their data being used in that way one of the main things that’s going to do Lisa is that I think we’re we have strong competencies within
The HS of talking to people when they’re are patients we’re already on a cur pathway or we’re recognizing them as being advocates for certain for certain areas one of the things that the public panel does is talk to people not within the aspect of being a patient we’re
Speaking to people as members of the public in a general way and the panel will be recruited randomly so people will not be able to opt in because they have an active interest they will be they will be invited to take part in the panel so we’ll have a random sample of
People from across Northern Ireland taking part in that discourse great thank you very much for that Edie did do you want to come in there again uh I did thank you so one of the things you mentioned Francis was around citizen opt out yes I think you mentioned that people there
May be a portal in place that citizens could go on to to um yeah to opt out so I was just wondering if you say a little bit more about what the plans are for that are you en Visage that happening yeah so one of the premise of the
Legislation is that we must put in place an OP out mechanism for people in Northern Ireland that they can opt out of secondary use of their data um so how I envisage that happening or the discussions that we’ve had around that would be similar to the Northern Ireland
Portal for patients during covid where they were able to access their Co certificates and and and that certification um again it’ll be something that we will talk to BSO about it’ll be a central service for Northern Ireland um and it will have to be managed and audited to see who is opting
Out and what are the demographics people are opting in and opting out um but is a right that will be enshrined in the legislation and it is part of the regulatory requirement so it’s certainly a change in our landscape we haven’t had that before um and it will mean that we
Need to just as you said we need to get better at how we speak to our public in terms of what we do and don’t do with their data the risk is of people are either ambivalent to or believe that we are not being trustworthy with their
Data that they will just begin to opt out of things because they have a piece of legislation and a function that enables them to do that obviously we don’t want people to do that the more that we can use population level data the better the analysis that we can
Conduct but that’s only through people’s perception of our use of their data and the services of the HSC more widely okay um couple more questions in the the chat so there’s issues with obtaining data sharing agreements between hsse organizations and will this be streamlined for this category of data
Sharing requests so again one of the functions of the data Institute is a central information governance support and one of the things we will be working through are the complications and issues surrounding topics just like that that’s not unique to data sharing for research for more widely utility of research
Across the hsse is a regional asset so yeah we do have a resource in place for that where we didn’t have before and then the last question in the chat um have there been discussions around getting extracts from the data held on Epic yes we have some exampler
Projects that that we’re hosting through the northern AR trusted research environment to do precisely that which is to look at the archive I’m looking at Joy who’s smiling at me here in the background so we have some projects both to address how we extract and Warehouse
The data from epic so that we can link it to other data so there as you know with the roll out of Epic there are some other data sets that will be replaced and will become what we would call a legacy data set so one of the joint
Remits of the data Institute which the Norther trusted research environment is supporting joy and her colleagues in their work is to Archive that data from both EP epic and other data sets and maintain them in a data archive and allow access to them through a secure
Data environment so yes is the answer in short thank you um okay just checking that I haven’t missed any other questions no I think I think that’s us but I’m sure Francis you’ll be very open to anyone reaching out do you know foll this conversation of course so um thank
You everybody um for joining today and as I said earlier this will be available then as a recording on the DH cni YouTube channel following this so thank you everyone