In the past hour, Jamie Dawson KC, counsel  to the United Kingdom Covid-19 inquiry,   has explained that the Scottish National Party  Government was asked to provide all communications   relating to key decisions that were made during  the pandemic, including all informal messages,   including on WhatsApp. Mr Dawson has  said, “No messages were provided.”

Grieving families deserve answers and full  transparency from the Scottish Government.   Why has Humza Yousaf not handed  over key messages to the inquiry? First and foremost, my thoughts  remain with all the families who   have been bereaved or otherwise affected  by Covid. The Government will co-operate  

Fully with the UK inquiry and  the Scottish public inquiry. When it comes to what we have released  and what we will provide to the inquiry,   I make it clear that we will hand over,  and have handed over, any potentially  

Relevant information that we hold, be that on  WhatsApp, in email or in any correspondence. If concerns have been raised by  the inquiry—as Douglas Ross has   rightly said, they have been raised—we will  fully investigate them. We will, of course,  

Hand over relevant material, and we have done  so. We will continue to provide messages, but   that has to go through the appropriate processes.  We will continue to hand over those messages.   We will continue to co-operate fully with  the public inquiries—both the UK inquiry  

And the Scottish inquiry. The concerns that  have been raised will be fully investigated. I am not sure what the First Minister  is talking about. The issue was raised   this morning. Surely he is aware of  what is happening. Jamie Dawson said: “The Scottish Government has provided  the inquiry with no WhatsApp or other  

Informal messaging material, either in its  own possession or in the possession of the   individuals whose individual rule 9 requests  are being handled by the Scottish Government.” He also said: “No clear comprehensive response emerged in the   corporate statements from  the Scottish Government.”

However, in May this year, having been  asked a direct question by a journalist,   Humza Yousaf said that, if a request for  messages, including on WhatsApp, was made, the   Scottish Government should be “absolutely open and  transparent”. In June, in the chamber, he said:

“WhatsApp messages, emails, Signal messages,  Telegram messages or whatever … will absolutely   be handed over to the Covid inquiries  and handed over to them in full.”— The inquiry has heard this morning that  that has not happened. Where are the   messages? Where have they gone? Has the  Scottish Government deleted any messages?

The Scottish Government did not  routinely make decisions through   WhatsApp. I know that that is  very different from what has   been intimated the UK Government did,  but that is not how we made decisions— Members, we will hear the First Minister. Decisions were not routinely made over  WhatsApp. I have said and will continue  

To say to every Government minister  and official that we must comply   fully with the inquiry. Relevant  information has been passed on. I note the concerns that were raised this morning.  Therefore, I have, just this morning, asked   the Solicitor General to internally investigate  whether any other messages have to be handed over.

Messages—whether through WhatsApp, email  or correspondence—have been sent. All that   information has been provided. I have also  provided a statement to the inquiry. However,   I note the concerns that have been raised,   and I give an absolute assurance to the families  who are listening, particularly those who have  

Been bereaved by Covid, that, where we hold any  relevant information, that will be passed on. But that is not happening—that is what  we heard this morning. That should not   take the involvement of the Solicitor General;  the First Minister must know what is required  

And must have heard—as I did—what the  King’s counsel for the inquiry said. I will not say that this was deliberate, but the  First Minister might have inadvertently misled   Parliament there— I think that that is  okay to say, because we know that SNP  

Ministers routinely use WhatsApp to discuss  Government matters. At the end of last year,   it was revealed that four SNP  ministers—Neil Gray, Kevin Stewart,   Maree Todd and Humza Yousaf—were using  WhatsApp to conduct Government business. Counsel to the Covid inquiry revealed  today that witness statements

“suggest that informal communication  such as WhatsApp messages were used by   key decision makers to discuss matters  around the progress of the pandemic in   Scotland … and … decisions that the  Scottish Government might have to take.” Crucially, one Scottish Government  official has voluntarily handed over  

WhatsApp messages from the pandemic  period, which proves that they exist,   so there is no excuse for not releasing  them. Why is that information being withheld   from grieving families, the inquiry  and everyone who deserves answers? That is a complete mischaracterisation. I did  not “inadvertently” mislead the chamber. I did  

Not say that there have never been discussions  over WhatsApp; I said that we did not “routinely”   make decisions over WhatsApp, which is very  different from what the UK Government did. Let us hear the First Minister. I would expect Scottish Government  ministers and officials to comply  

With our mobile messaging apps  usage policy, which, I believe,   I wrote to every member of the Parliament  about. I would also expect every minister   and Government official to comply with the “Do  not destroy” notices that the UK inquiry issued. Concerns have been raised, which Douglas  Ross is absolutely right to reiterate,  

On behalf of the inquiry. I can only say  to the families who are listening that we   will take on board those concerns  and internally investigate fully,   because my understanding—certainly as I stand  here today—is that relevant information has   been passed over. However, if any concerns are  raised, they will be fully investigated. I will  

Ask the Solicitor General to investigate, and I  will update the Parliament on any investigations. The First Minister spoke about the letter that he   sent on 20 July to all MSPs,  which I have here. He said: “I should reiterate here that the Scottish  Government is committed to openness and  

Transparency, and we are cooperating fully  with both the UK and Scottish Inquiries”. That is totally the opposite of  what we heard from Jamie Dawson   this morning. SNP members are saying  no, but counsel to the inquiry has   said that the inquiry has not received what  it asked for from the Scottish Government.

The Scottish Government has records management  policies that require officials to retain   records. The SNP’s business manager, George  Adam, told the Parliament last year that “All recorded information that is held  by ministers or officials that relates   to the business of the Scottish Government  is subject to freedom of information law,  

Irrespective of its format or the  platform on which it is held.”— The Covid inquiry has powers to  compel evidence. Refusing to hand   over such information would not only  be an insult to grieving families and   a shocking display of secrecy; it  would potentially break the law.

Will the First Minister confirm  that he will be transparent and   release every bit of information that the  Government holds? Does he accept that,   if any messages have been  deleted, that would be illegal? It is not this Government that has broken the law  or will break the law. We will not only comply  

With the law but comply and co-operate fully with  the UK inquiry and the Scottish public inquiry. We have passed over what we believe to  be relevant information. That being said— First Minister. Douglas Ross is shouting, “Nothing”— First Minister, please give me a moment. A  question has been put to the First Minister;  

Let us hear him respond with no other comments. Douglas Ross is saying that nothing  has been handed over, but that is   incorrect. My statement to the Covid  inquiry is more than 100 pages long,   so to suggest that no information has  been passed over is simply incorrect.

We are not just complying with our policy. On  the back of this morning’s comments from counsel,   I am seeking assurances that the DNDN—“Do not  destroy” notice—has been fully complied with,   not just by ministers but by every relevant  Scottish Government official. We take  

Seriously the concerns that have been  raised by counsel. The Government will,   undoubtedly, fully co-operate with the UK  inquiry and the Scottish public inquiry. In the past week, two major fires have brought  misery and heartache to families who have lost   everything. In Lochgelly, a fire ripped  through a four-storey block of flats and,  

In East Kilbride, six homes  were destroyed. According   to the Fire Brigades Union, both fires raged  on because of delays due to cuts in services. Today, one firefighter has told The  Courier that firefighters were 15   minutes later than they could have been  to a second fire in Fife, and that it is  

Only a matter of time before the  cuts put lives at risk. He said: “We all want to do our best  by the communities we serve,   but it’s difficult when we have  one hand tied behind our back.” Why cannot the First Minister see that  those cuts are putting lives at risk?

First and foremost, I pay tribute to  each and every one of our firefighters,   who do an incredible job in Scotland. I know  that from my position as First Minister and,   previously, as Cabinet Secretary for Justice. However, I do not agree with the point that  has been made about cuts. Despite the difficult  

Financial circumstances, which are due to United  Kingdom Government austerity, we are providing the   Scottish Fire and Rescue Service with  more than £368 million this year,   which is an increase of £14.4 million on 2022-23. If I look at how many firefighters we  have in comparison with other parts  

Of the UK, I see that as of March last  year there were 11.3 firefighters per   10,000 of the population in Scotland. That  compares to 6.1 in England and 8.4 in Wales. If I look at the pay, I am pleased to say  that I see that firefighters accepted an  

Improved two-year pay offer of 7 per cent  for 2022-23 and 5 per cent for 2023-24. The most crucial statistic for the public, who  are interested in their safety, is that over the   10-year period between 2011-12 and 2021-22 the  number of recorded fires dropped by 14 per cent.

We continue to increase investment in  the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service   and to have more firefighters per head  than other parts of the UK. Crucially,   fires are going down because of  the investment that we have made. In short, the First Minister is  saying that firefighters are wrong,  

And is burying his head in the sand. The fire service budget is set by the Government,  and it has fallen by 22 per cent in real terms   over the past decade. The chief fire officer has  been clear about where the service is headed. He  

Has said that 780 firefighter posts—between 20  and 25 per cent of the workforce—could go if   the Government does not change course. He went on  to say that that would impact on response times. When fighting fires, every second counts, so why  does the First Minister think that he knows better  

Than firefighters on the ground—and the chief  fire officer—about how to keep people safe? I am saying to Anas Sarwar that, as a Government,  we have increased our investment in the Scottish   Fire and Rescue Service. That is a fact. This  year, we have increased the funding by 14  

Per cent. We have more fire officers per 10,000  of the population than other parts of the UK   have. Crucially, the incidence of fires is going  down. That is what the public care most about. Anas Sarwar is right to say that  changes and reforms are being made in  

Relation to the Scottish Fire and Rescue  Service. In relation to those reforms,   assistant chief fire officer David Farries said: “We’re trying to make sure we  get a fire service that’s fit   for the communities of Scotland in the future. This gives us an opportunity  to rebalance and reshape the  

Service in a way that meets 21st Century needs.” I think that that is absolutely  right. I trust the Scottish Fire   and Rescue Service to make those  changes and to do so in a way that   continues to keep people safe. I am  not sure why Anas Sarwar does not.

When it comes to trusting firefighters, it is me,  rather than the First Minister, who is standing up   here and speaking for firefighters, who are  campaigning outside Parliament. Perhaps he   wants to go outside and talk to them. There has  been a 22 per cent fall in the budget in real  

Terms. This Government’s financial  mismanagement is already affecting   every part of a fire service that is  suffering from a decade of neglect. In the past 10 years, hundreds  of firefighters have been lost,   a dozen appliances are now being removed, and  the First Minister is ignoring warnings that  

His Government is putting lives at risk. In the  past few months alone, those changes have affected   fire stations in every corner of Scotland—Dundee,  Greenock, Dunfermline, Glenrothes, Methil, Perth,   Hamilton, Kirkcaldy, Edinburgh and four in  Glasgow. If those are not cuts, what is? When the single fire service was created,  

The Scottish National Party  said that it would not result “in cutting front-line services.” Was that SNP spin or SNP incompetence? Again, let me, instead of sticking to the spin  that Anas Sarwar is continuing to articulate,   stick to the facts. The facts are that  since 2017-18, there have been substantial  

Year-on-year increases in funding to support the  Scottish Fire and Rescue Service. On top of that,   we have more firefighters per  10,000 of the population than   other parts of the UK have. Of course,  the number of fires is going down, too.

Anas Sarwar is right that there has been  a decision to withdraw some appliances   temporarily. My understanding is that the number  is 10 of the 635 operational appliances, which is   1.5 per cent. The independent His Majesty’s  Fire Service Inspectorate in Scotland has  

Provided absolute assurance that the SFRS  temporary changes are based on a robust   analysis of activity levels, historical  demand and, importantly, the ability to   supplement any initial response within—this  is the crucial bit—an acceptable timeframe.

We continue to invest in our fire service. I want  to thank and pay tribute to the FBU and to our   firefighters on the ground. I will continue to  promise them that we will, as long as we are in  

Government, continue to ensure that they get the  investment that they need to keep our public safe. To ask the First Minister when  the Cabinet will next meet. Tuesday. Vast numbers of people are being forced to call  emergency dental helplines because they cannot  

Find a national health service dentist. An  investigation that I am publishing today   shows that that happened almost 16,000 times last  year in Fife alone. That is hardly surprising,   given that there is just one Fife  practice accepting new NHS patients. Across Scotland, people are desperate—some are  even resorting to do-it-yourself dentistry. The  

First Minister’s recovery plan promised to  abolish NHS dentistry charges altogether,   but they are not going away. Next week, they will  go up; some will even double. What the Government   did not tell us is that there are new charges  for emergency appointments and for services  

Such as denture repairs. Why are people paying  more for less under the Scottish National Party? The word that Alex Cole-Hamilton did not  mention in his question was “pandemic”. The   pandemic had a significant impact on our  dental services—not just here in Scotland,   but right across the United Kingdom.  Alex Cole-Hamilton was also incorrect  

To say that we have not made progress in  removing dental charges. We have done so   for young people under the age of 26, and we  look forward to making continued progress. On growing the NHS dental workforce in Scotland,  we have 55 dentists per 100,000 of the population  

Compared with 43 per 100,000 in England. We  are investing in our NHS dental services,   and the Cabinet Secretary for NHS Recovery,  Health and Social Care will be more than   happy to write to Alex Cole-Hamilton with  details of the progress that we have made.

Crucially, when it comes to the oral  health of our young people in particular,   which I know is of interest to us all, there  has been significant progress there, as well.   It will take time, but I can absolutely  guarantee not just the public but the  

People who work in our dental sector across  Scotland that we will continue to invest in   dentistry so that we can continue to improve  outcomes for patients across the country. To ask the First Minister, in light  of the launch of Scotland’s new HIV   anti-stigma campaign in partnership  with the Terrence Higgins Trust,  

What action the Scottish Government is  taking to eliminate new transmissions of HIV. We are delighted to partner with the  Terrence Higgins Trust and other HIV   stakeholders in this important anti-stigma  campaign. Tackling stigma is one of the many   ways to address HIV transmission in Scotland  by reducing barriers to testing and treatment,  

As well as improving the lives  of people living with HIV. We remain committed to eliminating HIV  transmission in Scotland by 2030. Our HIV   transmission elimination delivery plan,  developed by the deputy chief medical   officer and stakeholders, will prioritise  the recommendations for HIV elimination  

That we published last year. Our aim is  to publish that plan in the coming months. Stigma often presents a barrier  to people accessing HIV testing,   and this anti-stigma campaign is an exciting  milestone in Scotland’s mission to improve  

The lives of those living with HIV and update  public attitudes. A first of its type in the UK,   the campaign will reflect the realities of  living with HIV in Scotland today, where,   if an individual is on the right treatment, they  can live a long, happy and healthy life and cannot  

Pass the virus on to others. Does the First  Minister agree that tackling stigma around HIV   will help Scotland reach zero new transmissions  of the virus and improve and save lives? I absolutely agree with Clare Haughey on  that point. Tackling stigma is fundamental  

To achieving our HIV transmission elimination  goal by 2030. The campaign that Clare Haughey   referenced in her original question is  just one way of addressing that stigma.   We are also working with NHS Education  Scotland to produce training materials   for non-HIV specialists in the NHS to improve  the detection and diagnosis of HIV. We are  

Also working with Waverley Care to support the  fast-track cities Scotland initiative, which   provides stigma-related training activities  for the health and social care workforce. Almost half of the population in Scotland  would be ashamed to tell other people that   they were HIV positive, so work is still very  much required to challenge misconceptions while  

Also improving access to testing, preventative  treatment and support for people living with   HIV. Those points will be prioritised in our  HIV transmission elimination delivery plan. This new partnership is welcome. We  must do all that we can to eliminate   new transmissions of HIV. I therefore ask  the First Minister for a progress update  

On commitments made by the Scottish  Government on world AIDS day 2022,   including the pilot of an ePrEP clinic, which  would act as an important and significant step   towards ending stigma and giving people  greater control over their own healthcare. I will ensure that we write to Carol  Mochan with full details of an update,  

But Scotland has been world leading in  the implementation of HIV pre-exposure   prophylaxis—PrEP—since the introduction of our  programme in 2017. We have to recognise that   PrEP has to be as accessible as possible  for those who require it in communities   up and down Scotland. That point  is well made by Carol Mochan.

Work is very much under way to  pilot the online PrEP clinic:   £400,000 of funding has been provided  for the development of the project,   which is currently in the important development  stage and on track to be taken forward during   2024 and beyond. I will ensure that a  fuller update is provided to Carol Mochan.

To ask the First Minister what the  Scottish Government’s response is to   reported concerns that parents are having to  give up their jobs due to childcare costs. Early learning and childcare plays a crucial  role not only in children’s development but   in helping parents, particularly mums,  to return to work. Our current offer is,  

Of course, the most generous in the United  Kingdom, with all three and four-year-olds   and around a quarter of two-year-olds entitled to  1,140 hours of childcare each year. Independent   research shows that 88 per cent—almost nine in  10—of parents with a three to five-year-old were  

Satisfied that they could access childcare  in a way that meets their specific needs. However, I recognise that we have to go  further to support more parents to find or,   indeed, stay in work. That is why,  in the programme for government,  

I set out my plans to improve and expand the  childcare offer and work with our partners to   help 13,000 more children and families access  that childcare by the end of this Parliament. Childcare costs are one reason why so many  women choose not to start a family. Families  

With children are having to cut down  on essential items because they cannot   afford to work and pay for childcare. That  is why the roll-out of free childcare is so   important. It is not a luxury but a tool to  get parents into work and our economy moving. Given that the Scottish Government has  

Not announced anything on childcare  since the programme for government,   how will he reassure women that they will not  end up pregnant then screwed by this Government? The programme for government was, of  course, just last month. I am more   than happy to provide an update to Meghan  Gallacher as we make substantial progress.

I go back to the point that, in Scotland, we  have the most generous childcare offer in the UK. One of the important points that I mentioned in  my programme for government is the sustainability   of the private, voluntary and independent sector.  Scotland is the only part of the UK to pay staff  

Who are delivering funded ELC the real living  wage. We are committed to providing the necessary   funding to increase pay to £12 an hour for staff  who deliver funded ELC provision in the private,   voluntary and independent sector. We are  investing in that most-generous childcare  

Offer, and I am sure that other Governments in  the UK might want to follow Scotland’s lead. The First Minister will be aware  that the data that was produced   by the Pregnant Then Screwed campaign  is damning. Does he share the confidence   that the Scottish Government ministers  have that the private sector childcare  

Nursery model is still viable, even with  the proposed Scottish Government funding? I saw that report, and I thank Pregnant  Then Screwed for the information that   it provided in its report. That is why I was  keen to put on record that we recognise that  

There are challenges, particularly in the  PVI sector. We all recognise that in our   conversations with the private, voluntary  and independent sector. That is why we will   be providing funding to increase pay to £12  an hour for staff who deliver ELC provision.

I go back to the point that I made to Meghan  Gallacher a moment ago. Independent research—I   stress the word “independent”—shows that 88 per  cent of parents with a three to five-year-old   were satisfied that they could access  childcare in a way that meets their needs.

However, I recognise the point that the  member raises about the sustainability   of the sector, and that is why I am  absolutely committed to working with   the PVI sector to ensure that we  have a sustainable ELC provision.

I am afraid that what the Government has done so  far on the PVI sector is not enough. The First   Minister knows that there is an exodus  of experienced staff from the private,   voluntary and independent sector. He  cannot do just the £12-an-hour living  

Wage. He needs to increase the fee rates,  or we will have a sector that is just not   sustainable. He promised to do that in the  leadership contest. Is he going to deliver? Again, we will update the Parliament on our   plans around the budget in due  course at the end of this year.

It is fair to say that the overall capacity  across the whole childcare sector, in terms of   the number of registered places,  remained stable between March 2020   and March 2023. We know from the  delivery data that we collect from   councils specifically that the number of  hours that services offer has increased.

However, I take the point that  there are challenges around the   sustainability of childcare. That  is why we will continue to invest   in childcare to ensure that we have the  most generous offer anywhere in the UK. To ask the First Minister what steps  are being taken to eradicate long  

Waiting times for NHS treatment, in  light of Public Health Scotland data   showing that over 1,500 patients  have waited more than three years. Excessively long waits are, of course,   unacceptable. We are working hard  to drive down the longest waits,  

And we have already seen a significant reduction  since targets were announced last July. The latest   Public Health Scotland data shows that 73 per  cent of in-patient day-case specialties had   fewer than 10 patients waiting for more than  three years, and only eight had 10 or more.

That is welcome progress, but there is undoubtedly  more to do. That is why, in each of the next three   years, we will provide an extra £100 million  to accelerate treatment for patients and reduce   in-patient and day-case waiting lists by an  estimated 100,000 patients. That investment  

Will allow us to maximise capacity, build far  greater resilience into the system and deliver   year-on-year reductions in the number of patients  who have waited far too long for treatment. Let us talk about people, not percentages. It is  true that, in July last year, the First Minister  

Announced a series of targets for completely  eradicating long waits for treatment. By September   2022, not a single one of those targets had  been met. In fact, instead of there being zero,   as promised, there are a shocking 6,831  Scots waiting more than two years.

The £300 million over three years that the  First Minister has recently announced is   expected to treat 100,000 people. The  waiting list sits at 800,000 people,   and it is growing. The British Medical  Association and the Royal College of Nursing   have been scathing about the total failure  to acknowledge the workforce crisis, and even  

His own economy minister has admitted that the  Government had no idea how it will all be funded. When will the First Minister end the  wait for the 800,000 people who are on   the waiting list? In light of  the SNP’s failure to deliver on  

Existing promises on waiting times,  why should patients believe it now? Again, Jackie Baillie does not acknowledge  the impact that the global pandemic had   on health services right across  Scotland and the United Kingdom. There are, of course, differences in  how we record waiting times across the  

UK. Waiting times in England and Wales are  measured by the referral to treatment time,   which is the 18-week target, and which is, as  I say, not directly comparable to Scotland’s   treatment time guarantee. Nonetheless, when  we look at the data from 30 June this year,  

It shows that, per 1,000 of the population,  122 patients were waiting for the treatment   time guarantee and new out-patient appointments  here in Scotland. That is fewer than in England,   where 134 patients per 1,000 are on the  RTT waiting list, and in Wales the figure  

Is 243 per 1,000. Although I acknowledge that  there are differences in how those figures are   measured, my point is that the global pandemic  has impacted health services right across the UK. We have made significant reductions. The number  of people who are waiting for more than two years  

For new out-patient appointments is down by  59 per cent. When it comes to people who have   been waiting as in-patients for longer than  two years, the figure has also reduced by   28 per cent since targets were announced. We  will continue our record investment in the NHS,  

To ensure that our staff numbers are  at historically high and record levels,   and to make sure that our NHS staff  remain the best paid anywhere in the UK. Given the unacceptably long  secondary care wait times,   desperate patients are being forced to continue to  see general practitioners, placing greater strain  

On primary care and taking up appointments,  and forcing patients with new issues to wait,   leading to them going to accident and emergency  departments in desperation. That is a system-wide   cycle of despair that contributed to  a record number of deaths last winter. You have spoken about surgical waiting times,  

But what about our patients who are waiting  for medical clinics, chronic pain management,   respiratory care or cardiology? What tangible  changes are you making specifically for them? Always speak through the  chair, please, Mr Gulhane. That is exactly why we are investing  an additional £300 million to reduce  

Waiting lists for patients who  have been waiting for far too long. Sandesh Gulhane asked what we are doing.  We are doing everything that we possibly   can and our NHS staff are doing everything  that they possibly can to increase activity   to aid the recovery. I will give Sandesh  Gulhane one example. In-patient day-case  

Activity for quarter 2 was at its highest  since the start of the pandemic. In fact,   it was the sixth quarterly increase in a row,  with 58,813 patients being seen in quarter 2. We are increasing activity, but we are  also increasing the workforce where we  

Can. We have recently seen historically high  numbers of NHS staff, and we are making sure   that they continue to be the best paid in the  UK. What will help us in relation to that NHS  

Activity is making sure that no NHS worker, be  it a doctor, a nurse or any of our NHS staff,   feels that they have to go on strike because  they are not being fairly paid. The Government  

Will continue to make sure that our NHS staff  are the best paid in the whole of the UK. We move to general and constituency  supplementary questions. Will the First Minister outline  how the newly announced fund to   leave will support women who are  fleeing an abusive relationship?

The new £500,000 fund to leave pilot will help  to reduce the financial burden on women, who can   receive up to £1,000 to pay for the essentials  that they and their children need, such as rent   or clothing. The fund is for supporting women  who are experiencing domestic abuse and who,  

As we all know, face many challenges and  difficulties, including financial barriers,   when they plan to leave abusive partners.  It is vital that such women can access   the support that they need when they need  it. That can be through local authorities,  

The local women’s aid group or partners  who are involved in delivering the fund. I would always urge any women who are experiencing  domestic abuse or violence to reach out for the   support that is available through Scotland’s  domestic abuse and forced marriage helpline.

Claire Inglis was tortured and murdered in her  own home, leaving behind a young son. Fiona and   Ian Inglis have found the strength to be here  today, 24 hours after their daughter’s killer   was jailed. They are here for answers. Why was  a violent criminal with dozens of convictions  

Granted bail not just once or twice but five  times? Since Claire’s murder, why has the   Scottish National Party Government passed a  law that will make it even harder to remand   criminals in custody? Will Humza Yousaf commit to  an independent, robust and transparent inquiry?

First and foremost, my thoughts are very  much with Ian and Fiona Inglis—Claire’s   parents. I cannot imagine the trauma and  grief that they are going through. There   cannot be anything more unnatural in this  world than to have to bury one’s child. I   extend the condolences and sympathies  of the Government to Ian and Fiona.

Forgive me, Presiding Officer, but, with  your indulgence, I will take a bit of time   to answer some of the questions that Russell  Findlay has posed on behalf of the family. First, it is appropriate for me to say  that decisions about bail and remand  

Are, of course, for the independent judiciary  and courts to determine. They are not for the   First Minister, any Government minister or any  politician to interfere in or intervene in. I do not agree with Russell Findlay’s  characterisation of the Bail and  

Release from Custody Act 2023. The act  makes it clear for the first time that   the court should specifically consider victim  safety, which includes safety from physical and   psychological harm, when applying the new bail  test. That is explicit for the first time in  

The 2023 act. Victim safety is at the heart of any  decision that should be made on bail and remand. On the independent inquiry that Russell Findlay  has asked for, he knows that I cannot intervene   or interfere in the decisions of the judiciary.  On the concerns that have been raised by Russell  

Findlay and Ian and Fiona Inglis when it comes  to prosecutorial decisions and decisions to   either oppose or accept bail conditions, I  will convey those concerns directly to the   Lord President and the Lord Advocate, and it  will be for them to appropriately respond. I  

Cannot demand an investigation into a decision  that has been made by the independent judiciary;   it would be unwise for me to do so,  because that would undoubtedly be seen   as interference with a decision that has  been made by the independent judiciary.

This dreadful and tragic case reminds us  of the need to do more to tackle domestic   abuse and domestic homicide. That is why the  Scottish Government is committed to developing   a multi-agency domestic homicide review model in  partnership with key stakeholders. I will give  

More information on that to Russell Findlay  and any other member who has an interest. I remind members of my entry in the register   of members’ interests, which shows  that I am a member of Unite, the union. Today, it was announced that Newman  Bonar Ltd, the company that was set  

Up earlier this year to acquire historic  Dundee textile manufacturer Bonar Yarns,   is closing, risking the livelihoods of 57  workers and their families. I invite the   First Minister to take this opportunity  to join the provisional liquidators in   asking that any party that has an interest  in acquiring the business contact them. Will  

The First Minister join me in fighting to save  those important manufacturing jobs in Dundee? I share Mercedes Villalba’s clear disappointment  that Newman Bonar has gone into liquidation. My   immediate thoughts are with the staff and  their families, who are again going through  

Uncertainty. The Cabinet Secretary for Wellbeing  Economy, Fair Work and Energy had met and written   to the company in recent months to encourage  it to fully engage with Scottish Enterprise   so that every available option to save the  business could be explored. I know that the  

Business has had a long-standing presence in the  community and is an important local employer. We will certainly do everything that we can in  our power to protect jobs and the manufacturing   footprint in Dundee. Scottish Enterprise is  engaging directly with the liquidator to better  

Understand the situation, given last night’s  announcement. As a Government, we stand ready to   provide support to any employees who potentially  face redundancy through partnership action for   continuing employment—PACE. I will keep Mercedes  Villalba updated on how conversations are going. This week, FBU Scotland launched its  “Firestorm” report. In the past seven days,  

We have seen firefighters tackle floods and  flames. Our fireys are gathered outside right now,   and they are clear that they cannot continue  in their current roles, never mind adapt   to the future roles that they are expected to  perform, with the current levels of investment. What is the First Minister’s  response to FBU Scotland’s  

“Firestorm” report? Will he  agree to meet firefighters   themselves—not their managers, but front-line  firefighters—to hear directly their concerns? First and foremost, I go back to the response  that I gave to Anas Sarwar. We will continue   to ensure that we invest in the Scottish Fire and  Rescue Service, because it does an incredible job,  

And, of course, in our firefighters.  We have regular dialogue with the Fire   Brigades Union. In fact, just this morning,  the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home   Affairs committed to meeting the FBU in order  to meet directly firefighters on the front line.

Of course, this financial year, we increased  the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service’s budget   by £14.4 million, despite the financial pressure  that we are currently under. On top of that,   we continue to make investments in the SFRS, which  have enabled it, through its incredible hard work,  

To reduce the number of fires that have taken  place over the past year. I have read through the   “Firestorm” report, and the cabinet secretary will  meet the FBU, as she committed to do this morning. Under the Scottish Government’s vaccination  programme, I recently had the Covid and the  

Flu vaccines at a very busy, efficient and,  indeed, friendly vaccine centre. However,   that is anecdotal. Will the First Minister  please provide an update on vaccination take-up? Christine Grahame makes an incredibly  important point. We know that the vaccines   for Covid and flu are incredibly effective  and important. I encourage anybody who is  

Eligible to come forward for vaccination. The  programme is progressing very well—so far,   1.7 million vaccinations have  been administered. That includes   more than 1 million flu vaccinations  and almost 700,000 Covid vaccinations. For people who are at highest risk, our  rephasing of the programme has resulted  

In 73 per cent of care home residents having  already been vaccinated, with the remainder due   for completion by the end of this month. A large  number of people have appointments throughout the   rest of October and November, with vaccinations  due to be delivered by early December.

I reiterate to all those who are eligible that  getting the flu vaccine and the Covid vaccine   could save their lives. It is the safest and  most effective way to protect yourself and the   national health service this winter, so if you  are eligible but have yet to book an appointment,  

Please do so. I encourage everybody  who is eligible to get those vaccines. This week, I met campaigners to discuss the  impact of lockdowns on families of people who   live in care homes. After a long campaign,  it was welcome that the Scottish Government  

Announced that it would implement Anne’s law.  However, there are concerns that that has still   not happened and that the issue currently sits in  the National Care Service Bill. Campaigners want   the implementation of Anne’s law to be decoupled  from the bill. Will the First Minister agree to  

Meet the campaigners? Will  ministers look urgently at   decoupling the implementation of Anne’s  law from the bill and delivering it now? Through changes that were made by the previous  minister for social care, Kevin Stewart, we gave   practical effect, through regulation, to Anne’s  law. Notwithstanding that, if there is something  

Else that we can do, I will consider Miles  Briggs’s suggestion in relation to decoupling. However, the National Care Service Bill is  progressing. We took time to pause it due to   concerns that were raised by local authorities  and trade unions. Of course, I will ask the  

Cabinet Secretary for NHS Recovery, Health and  Social Care to meet Miles Briggs and the families   who represent those who live in care homes to see  whether there is anything further that we can do. As we mark care experienced week, will  the First Minister provide an update on  

The steps that the Scottish Government is  taking to improve the experiences of and   outcomes for looked-after children  as they transition to adulthood? I think that every member of the Scottish  Parliament who has met care-experienced   people—particularly care-experienced young  people—will have been moved by their plight,  

Their strength and their advocacy. Yesterday,  I had the great privilege of meeting a group   of care-experienced young people in  Glasgow, where I heard about some of   the challenges that care-experienced people  face during their transition to adulthood. For anyone, moving away from home can be a  challenging time when we rely heavily on our  

Family support networks, but not everybody  has a family support network. Not everybody   has the luxury of their mother and their  father—or, indeed, wider family—to rely on. That is why I was pleased to set out  the Government’s proposal for a £2,000   payment for care leavers to provide  financial support at such a pivotal  

Moment in young people’s lives, as part of  a broader package of support. That is a key   step in keeping the Promise, and I reiterate  to members today that I, as First Minister,   and the Government fully intend not only to keep  the Promise but to ensure that it is delivered.

That concludes First Minister’s question time. On a point of order, Presiding  Officer. I declare my interest as   a practising general practitioner  in the national health service. Thank you, Dr Gulhane. Your  comment has been recorded. The next item of business is a  members’ business debate in the  

Name of Paul Sweeney. There will be a  short suspension to allow those leaving   the chamber and the public gallery  to do so before the debate begins.

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