Cancer Lives In All Of Us | Dr. Henning Saupe | EP 12

Dr. Henning Saupe is a German doctor and author of the book ‘Holistic Cancer Medicine’.

Dr. Saupe is known for his holistic treatment of his cancer patients, involving aspects such as mitochondrial health, detoxification, stress management, and 9 other areas described as the ’12 Vital Fields of Healthy Cells’.

Dr. Saupe is the physician we need more of in Western medicine. Enjoy!

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00:00 – Why Dr. Saupe Abandoned the Western Paradigm
11:11 – What Is Cancer?
26:37 – Does Western Medicine Approach Cancer Treatment Wrong?
44:02 – ‘The 12 Vital Fields of Healthy Cells’
59:01 – How Blood pH Levels Is a Major Factor for Cancer Development
1:06:16 – Nutrition and Cancer
1:19:55 – Dr. Saupe’s Cancer Treatment Protocol
1:38:02 – Just Remember Being Happy

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So instead of looking at the the the whole person who suffers from a very complex illness a cancer doctor immediately thinks about a cancer cell which is not the problem the cancer cell is not the problem that has got back to that later the problem is that this

Cancer cell lives in an organism and the organism doesn’t stop it from growing all right Dr Henning sa welcome to the show hello Ms and hello Jacob it’s a pleasure to meet you and your audience today I’m excited to have this interview with you likewise Dr Henning okay so Henning last

Year in November you visited Denmark where I got to meet you for for the first time um you were speaking about primarily your upcoming book holistic cancer medicine and it was amazing it was an i IO open up for me to get to know you and I think especially what

Stroke me the most was your holistic approach which is very unconv unconventional here in the western world but also the fact that many of your ideas or actually most of your ideas were so similar to my own uh in yeah my own research about longevity and the human body and disease prevention and

Whatever I do so I was just amazed by you and I and I and I bought your book right away and I have read it since then and it’s amazing so apart from being a a a a German doctor and and author then hening who are

You who am I well I’m this guy who has been asking himself and the world what is life about since I can remember that I I’m thinking through thoughts so from the time of being a student at grammar school I was interested in life sciences and in every scientific approach that

Could give me an answer on on um why are the things the way they are and what keeps the world together so really the big questions and um I have never stopped asking these questions and and our our conversation today is maybe a little glimpse of what I found out the

Last 40 40 50 years uh and the more I study the complexity of Life the more I understand that everything is connected with everything else and that is the definition of a holistic worldview holism it’s a philosophical approach that tells us that things are connected rather than separate um you don’t

Understand a a part of the world without its context that’s that’s the holistic approach and it does not make sense to only look at a fraction of the reality and try to understand this fraction of the reality without its context so long story short uh I decided to study

Medicine at the age of 19 eventually 20 I got into med school in in my home country in Germany in southern Germany in a city called ULM um nice city on the river denu with a modern University and I start studied medicine like 30,000 students did this year together

With me in Germany and there are more than 40 medical uh universities in Germany so I was I was one of the 30,000 that started studying medicine in 1986 and I was thrilled by all the details that I I was taught about and I was given really billions of details uh

Names of of muscles and vessels and and details in anatomy and biochemistry and physics and bioh physics and everything that that medicine uses in order to uh to to make diseases manageable and to find ways to help people who have um health issues um but my question what what

Drives life what what is behind the phenomenon of a living organism what does a living organism need in order to stay healthy was never addressed believe it or not I studied almost seven years at ol University and passed all the exams and got out of medical school with

A medical degree and a doctorate in medicine but these simple questions were never addressed and never discussed and never asked uh uh and that was quite surprising and a little frustrating so what I did parallel to my medical studies at UL University and by the way it would have been the same in

Copenhagen or in in or in Berlin there is difference it’s it’s the Western World approach that is very uniform in all the in all the Western World countries um so um what I did parallel to my regular medical studies is I I looked for seminars on naturopathic medicine on

Homeopathy on spiritual uh development on uh meditation on yoga on on all kinds of uh sciences and and life sciences and practical approaches to work with health and and life um that did not find a place at the University so I I I learned more and more that the the approach that

I I was exposed to or the the the way I was trained to become a medical doctor eventually had some very clear characteristics and I did not know that while I studied medicine but it became more and more clear uh in the years that followed that what they told us at at

The University was a a reductionistic uh way of looking at life and disease and the treatment of diseases um rather than a holistic one and I can explain what that means um and it was also a totally materialistic uh way of of teaching medicine and finding ways to to uh uh

Help other people suffering from illnesses um because Spirit or not even the concept of energy actually existed still does not exist I would say in a in a in a normal uh uh training program for a medical doctor um um and so what did I say reductionistic instead of holistic

Materialistic in instead of uh spiritual and monistic uh sorry dualistic instead of monistic those are the three characteristics dualistic means maybe there is something like culture and music and art and love and spirituality but that has nothing to do with medicine let’s stay with the facts and and let’s

Pray on Sundays and let’s make love with the Beloved ones on in the evening time but during during the work time as a medical doctor we don’t speak about love and spirituality so uh I would like to characterize the the philos philosophy behind um the the the training my my my

University training that I got as um dualistic so spirit and and met is separate from each other um it’s uh reductionistic it looks at a tiny little fraction of reality um we can find examples quite very soon when we talk about cancer maybe my book so instead of

Looking at the the the whole person who suffers from a very complex illness a cancer doctor immediately thinks about a cancer cell which is not the problem the cancer cell is not the problem has got back to that later the problem is that this cancer cell lives in an organism

And the organism doesn’t stop it from growing so a reductionistic approach and then a materialistic that means um medicine is still on the level of Newtonian physics and has not entered uh the era of quantum physics which we started a 100 years ago Neil Spore one of the genius

Uh physicists and most famous scientists from your country from Denmark yeah um yeah showed the world that the true nature of matter actually spirit and his friend Max plank in Germany said the same there is a quotation from a from a lecture of the Aged Max plank who was a

Nobel Prize winner and one of the fathers of quantum physics where he says in the lecture that I studied the nature of matter throughout my entire life and to find out that the true core of matter is Spirit that’s quite a a stunning statement at the end of a long long life

As a physicist so um holistic medicine or the holistic approach to to the reality and to life and diseases means it’s monistic it’s only one world spirit and matter coexist in the same world it’s not separate universes um a reductionistic approach does not tell us

The truth it it it is likely to tell us a lie that that this tiny little thing is the problem and we forget the context um and uh and then uh spirituality yeah uh that but there is more than than atoms and remedies uh if we come

Eventually to my um Life theme uh treating patients with cancerous diseases um the cancerous drama takes place in a in a spiritual being in a human being who has feelings and thoughts and and virtues and and yeah uh so it’s not only a physical phenomenon so it’s it’s spiritual and and um

Somatic at the same time it’s one world and we need to look at the context in order to understand the problem um and that was not what I learned at Med where did I learn that I learned that outside the medical uh University on on many seminars and I found my teachers that

That helped me to understand these things that I summarized now the last three minutes interesting we’ll take a quick break to acknowledge one of our sponsors Nordic Kings I been taking NAIC Kings products for more than two years now in everything from their bone marrow

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Seen and use the code holistic 15 I think um if it’s possible maybe we should break down what is cancer to to the people listening just is because I think to many people some people see it as some sort of mold or something that takes over the host or you know people

Don’t really know what it is maybe you can explain to them what is it yeah okay uh for the first it’s one of the most important diseases that we need to get control over if we don’t want to die too early uh a few words from cancer statistics uh it’s a disease

That today one in three adults will will develop and suffer from in Western World countries and the trend uh goes up every year with about 2 to 3% so that the the the dark prognosis of 2040 and that’s only how many years 17 16 years until

2040 is that the statistics tell us that we we’re likely to have 50% cancer rate in adults in developed countries in only 16 17 years hly so this is why I read this book wrote this book and this is why we’re having this this podcast today because we need to learn what causes

Cancer and what we can do to reverse it or to to lower the risk that we end up getting cancer altoe so what is this this is the first thing it’s a very common disease and um it’s the word cancer summarizes approximately 500 different types of diseases and the

Common characteristic of all these 500 cancerous diseases is that um there is a growth of tissue somewhere in the in the body it starts in an organ um and we call it breast cancer if this process starts in the in the milk bre gland in the breast or we call it we

Call it prostate cancer if it starts in the male prostate or in the stomach then we call it stomach cancer and what does that mean that means that the part of this organ starts to grow and not only in a in a way to repair what has been

Damaged that would be normal Scar Tissue growth or repair growth but this growth is totally out of out of order uh and the cells that grow um have very special characteristics that number one does not Ser it does not serve the function of the body the cells represent a very

Immature baby like embryol like form of cellular behavior um and it does not only grow but it grows and it spreads cells to the rest of the body where all of a sudden this this un unwanted and uncontrolled growth takes over in different parts of the body and that’s what we call

Daughter tumors or in Latin metastases so cancer is a disease where tissues growth out of control and um not only in one spot that’s where it starts but from there it spreads uh immature cells that Lodge in other uh organs in the liver in the lungs in the bones uh in the lymph

Nodes and continue to grow uh without contributing to anything good in the body and and eventually the the body is exposed to Growing tissues and eventually that causes a lot of problems and if you don’t stop it it causes the death of the entire organism by blocking

The natural organ function so it’s a again summary cancer describes a big family of diseases where the common characteristic is uh uncontrolled growth of an organ that’s that then spreads its cells to other organs and invades the entire body and if you don’t block it uh

The body dies from it that’s cancer and of course now we have more detailed answers that’s why I wrote the book I needed 350 Pages explain more in detail what cancer is but this is the first phenomenon you see something growing and it’s an immature cell form behind this

Growth and it spreads it its uh its its cells into the rest of the body and eventually the body drowns your cells but I believe uh at the conference last year that you said something about cancer is growing in all of us can you elaborate on that

Yes yes so that’s the next step we we’ll we’ll answer your question I mean the answer is the question yeah and it will probably take an hour to answer the the different layers uh of the answer so yes there is a another layer and that is that um

Cancer represents a a life form uh where a very old program of metabolism of winning energy of making energy out of the food the cell gets and the oxygen the cell gets is activated and this happens the um that that that cells go into this alternative life mode or metabolic mode

Um uh this happens all the time a tiny little bit so I hope that we three uh who do this podcast today are are free of cancer I I don’t know details about your health but I I hope and I assume that we’re not aware that any of us is

Aware of of having cancer as a disease but if we would check our bodies today we would find some cancer cells even in healthy individuals um and the number you find in the literature is some thousand some hundred some scientists say up to some thousand cells is what

Our body produces in cancer cells every every day um is that a lot or is that little well it’s it seems to be very very little U the number of cells that make up my body and every human body is around 100 trillions one 10 by the power

Of 12 that’s number and these 10 by the power of 12 cells they they repair themselves and they they regenerate all the time there are only very few tissues in our body that do not regenerate the enamel in our teeth and the lens inside in our eye is what does not regenerate

The rest keeps on changing and regenerating as long as we live um some cells live four five days like white blood cells some cells Live a month or two like skeleton cells or the the osteoblasts in the cells um in the bones but the whole body is keep on changing

Its shape and and we shieling uh um matter throughout our body and we keep the shape that’s super fascinating phenomenon yeah how does how do we do that um if you see me again in a year’s time there’s not one molecule left of the molecules that make my physical body

Today yeah it’s insane but I I probably look pretty much the same if I’m lucky yeah so but all the molecules that you see right now will not be there any longer yeah they will all the carbon atoms and the oxygen and the sulfur and the phosphorus will all be exchanged so

My body keeps on exchanging matter all the time as long as I live and a part of this regeneration of my body comes with a number of damaged cells that that get a damage on the way to separate and to to regenerate and and uh they you they end

Up with a genetic damage and this genetic damage causes a change in their behavior and this change of behavior is what we call cancer and this is the background voice so to speak in every one of us that we constantly produce a few hundred up to a few thousand cancer

Cells every every day and what happens with these cells well they die in my organism as long as my organism is strong enough to defeat uh these unwanted immature cells mostly because of my immune system but also because of healthy conditions in my body that do

Not allow these cells to survive so it’s from two sides it’s the whole biochemical terrain as we call it and we will describe that a little closer in a few minutes and it’s the control of my immune system what is my immune system well it’s a self-repair program in my in

My body based on very special cells uh in my blood I call them white blood cells uh but there are also immune cells in my brain in my liver in my kidneys they have all fancy names that uh I don’t want to pronounce now they have special names funer Stern cells for

Instance in the livert to to drop a name is the immune system in our liver and and immune cells they constantly look through our body if there are cells that do not belong to our body and if this healthy immune system finds a cancer cell that happened to come into

Existence because of a genetic um uh genetic uh failure in the in the process of dividing two one cell into two then these immune cells are um aware of this um uh unhealthy cell of the cell that represents a cancer cell and eliminate it eat it up literally we have cells in

Our white blood system they are called Big eaters in in the Greek mcroof fages and so we we have some billions of microf fases in our blood and these microf fases as long as our body is healthy can detect and Destroy cancer cells so the the take-home message from

This part of the interview is um we all produce a few cancer cells and that’s normal that’s still within what we call Healthy As long as we have enough mcroof fages to take care of these uh aberin cells uh at a very very early stage and

As long as we have enough oxygen in our tissues and and the right balance between acidity and alkalinity as long as we have enough nutrients enough micro nutrients and minerals yeah we we can keep this disbalance between a few cancer cells and a powerful self-repair system alive

And and if that is the case and the next question is what has happened is if somebody develops the disease so we have a few canc cancer cells on board and we produce every day a few cancer cells but our immune system kills them every day so we’re not having the disease if

Somebody comes with a lump with a cancerous lump of some centimeters that causes pain and maybe it starts bleeding the question is what has happened in this organism so that the organism does not control or has not control probably for the last three maybe already four or

Five years a process that started in one organ let’s say the breast it’s the most common type of cancer nowadays breast cancer second most common is prostate cancer uh so and that is the question that leads you or that that you get answer to in in my book what are the factors that

Change the self-control and self-repair uh mechanisms of the human body and this is an expression of Life of Vitality the capability to self regulate and to self-repair that is what have has kept us alive as long as we have been on this Earth from the first day of birth

To right now in this very moment I live because I have a self-regulation capacity a self-regulation selfhealing capacity and that is for me the first hint of what I call um life force or The Mystery of Life how do I do it that’s a very very compli very very important

Question how do I keep my body alive and again uh link to the introduction that is what nobody answered at med school in my training as a medical doctor and if I ask young students uh do you do you discuss this very important question what keeps a healthy body alive it’s

Still not in the program of medical universities although it has become a part of the scientific world but it’s don’t ask asked me why but it’s still not taught at Med schools the academic word for for this discipline would be saluto Genesis salus in Latin is health

And Genesis is how to make it so we should spend more time and more research money in our universities for saluto Genesis research the again the question what keeps a healthy body alive and there are some scientists that explore this Terrain but still it’s so little in

Proportion to all the rest the medical student has uh to learn by heart in order to get the degree so um now I will give you some practical examples what that means question a practical example for Sal Genesis question is what food do we need to eat to stay

Healthy uh how do we need to to uh get the toxins out of our body in order to stay healthy how how do we get enough oxygen into our body because everybody knows oxygen is essential for us we cannot live without it and so on all

These questions what do we need in order to stay healthy uh deserve more attention and my book is is uh the answer that I found it summarizes many hundred books and articles that I’ve read in my life and makes it understandable for a reader who is just

Interested you don’t need to be a medical doctor or a biologist or a scientist who understand my book everybody uh read uh can understand it and I explain all the the special terms in plain English or German or or the language that the book is printed it’s now

Available in three languages in Dutch in English and in German and I would love to see a Danish translation at one point in time that sounds good we’ll take a quick break to acknowledge one of our sponsors functional self functional self isn’t just another health store it’s a

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Traditional way of curing uh cancer now it seems so obvious when you explain it you know to us something goes wrong in the cell and it starts acting weird and it’s seems like well you just have to create the environment within your body you know create a good living

Environment and then it will not happen well what do we do then if I come in and I say I might have cancer and we realize I have cancer what will the what would the hospital or the doctor prescribed to me or what would they do from a western

Yeah from now like right now a status quo what what would be done okay very good question yeah so the approach if if I just followed what my academic teachers have told and if I would be an oncologist at the regional hospital or in Copenhagen or wherever um I would do

The following approach I would exactly measure the size of the tumor with CT scanners or magnetic resonance scanners and find out where in your body is cancer and then there are guidelines um that that represent the current understanding and the current approach of the disease and the best treatments following the reductionistic material

Realistic approach um surgery chemotherapy to kill as many cancer cells as possible radiotherapy if necessary anti-hormonal therapy um to block hormones that eventually could um speed up the growth of cancer so if you block it cancer grows more slowly and a bunch of about 100 new drugs that are

Summarized under the headline of immunotherapy um and I find the the headline a little misleading because if you as a Layman hear the word immunotherapy you probably mean that understand that this is good for my immune system right but uh under the headline of immunotherapy in a modern

Oncology Clinic um you find again blockers that block something in the metabolism of a cancer cell but not only in cancer cells that’s why they have side effects um and all these therapies together Focus only on the symptom and that’s again the reductionistic approach so we cut the

Tumor out that’s okay because the tumor disturbs us and it can spread metastasis to the rest of the body so yes the surgeon wants to cut it out but we have understood already 70 80 years ago that cutting out the main tumor is only one part of the problem because when when

There are metastases the metastases are in most cases more dangerous than the mother tumor so most cancer patients die if they die from cancer not from the primary tumor but from the metastasis and it’s a fact that on that the surgeons cannot cut out more than what is possible sometimes the metastases are

So many so the seron cannot cut out all the metastases and then the next approach is let’s kill cancer let’s try to kill these disturbing cells but that is not that easy there are some cancerous uh diseases that respond better to chemotherapy those are the blood the blood-based cancer diseases like

Leukemia that’s where chemotherapy comes from first chemotherapy that was given was in 1947 in Boston for a child with leukemia and it was kind of successful and then it became more and more successful after some years of refined combination of uh chemotherapy with patients suffering from leukemia then

One tried the same approach uh uh to use toxic drugs to kill cancer cells for other types of cancer but the results Were Never As Good as they are for leukemia they are still quite good for leukemia many patients can be cured uh with chemotherapy if they suffer from

Leukemia not all of them but roughly 50% and why is that um and the in the treat in the treatment of solid organ cancels that are much more common than leukemia as I said breast cancer the number one and prostate cancer but also lung cancer and colon cancer are quite common

Diseases nowadays and chemotherapy cannot cure it that’s a it’s a known fact it’s not only my private notion it’s a fact that chemotherapy has not the potential to cure these diseases what it can do is to reduce the number of cancer cells for a period of time but

It will never reduce the number down to zero why because that would be to toxic the the the dosage of of uh chemotherapy that you would need to kill all existing cancer cells in a human body would be a deadly dosage dosage of chemotherapy the patient would not survive it um so

Oncologists know that and use chemotherapy to reduce the symptoms to reduce the cancerous masses and then two things happen number one the survive there will always be some cells that survive the chemotherapy procedure it’s also based on biological laws they are in the moment when the chemotherapy is

Given in a dormant phase and in a dormant phase they pick up very little of the drug so they survive the procedure only the cells that are metabolically active in the very moment you give the chemotherapy get as much chemotherapy so that they die from it so

The surviving cells become more and more resistant and the the body the immune system but also the entire self-regulation system becomes weaker and weaker and weaker the longer the patient is treated with chemotherapy so somebody calculated out uh the the impact of chemotherapy on the fiveyear survival rate of P of patients

With metastasized cancer it’s a study from Australia from a big hospital Prince of Wales Hospital in Sydney Australia and the sad number was um the impact of Kuma therapy to the fiveyear survival rate of patients with metastasized breast lung colon and prostate cancer was 2.3% 2.3 that’s not a good

Number um so so and and uh for some diseases the survival gain from chemotherapy is in the few weeks or months pancreatic cancer gallbladder cancer for instance does hardly respond to chemotherapy at all and still it’s given um let me characterize what where I’ve where I um find the the the problem

And the the mistake um the problem is that all these therapies are are reductionistic they look at the Cancer cell they don’t ask what has happened so the organism allows this cancer cell to grow what what has happened between the time where the organism was able to control can cancer growth because

Everybody knows today that everybody grows a few hundred cancer cells what happened the first let’s say somebody develops cancer at the age of 55 what has happened the first 50 years in this uh uh organism that did not develop cancer and what caused the change from controlling cancer cells to not

Controlling them um and that is that that question explains the terrain and that’s the one of the main topics of my book Let’s understand the terrain around the cancer cell and this and uh change the terrain parallel to the strategy to make the cancer smaller I I’m I do not oppose

To the to the important concept of cutting out the tumors as long as that is possible and reducing its size but I I have a problem with therapies or my patients have problems with therapies that reduce the size of the tumor by 20 to 30% for three

Or four months um while the quality of life goes down significantly and while the therapy the chemotherapy ruins the patient’s immune system so what is the consequence of that tumor starts to grow again and the next time chemotherapy works less effectively because the body is already damaged and the tumor cells

Metastasized and adapted and mutated and then the story goes as it is published uh in numerous medical uh journals that the let’s say the survival rate for in average for metastasized ovarian cancer is three years full stop period it has not changed for 20 years with a patient with metastasized ovarian

Cancer has an average prognosis of round about three years if she follows the main program of of her Hospital doctors and that’s a very sad number um and all the new drugs have hardly changed uh the prog the prognosis and the survival rate if a new drug is able to to prove that

The survival rate is better by two or three weeks the drug is accepted the insurances are ready to pay 100 or 200,000 for this new therapy and the one who has conducted a study is invited to a World Conference to give a lecture about this new drug and and that is a a

Very very strange situation that we need to change for sure for sure and from what I can hear on you and what I totally agree on as well is that you cannot or you will have a very hard time curing cancer in a dysfunctional system

You have to find out the root cause of the dysfunction like with any other disease and I think that’s the whole that’s that’s the whole issue with Western medicine you know uh that that we are not taught how to find the root cause we’re not taught how to make

People functional we don’t give a about how functional people are we try to you know it’s it’s just this endless cycle and that’s what I loved about your book so much that you have this you you had you had these principles I think you called them the 12 vital fields of

Healthy cells right um where you kind of summed up the components that made up the functional human being so maybe maybe we should take them one by one the 12 principles yeah and talk about those yeah and and let’s also talk about both how you uh how you how you create balance

Both the Cure and also the problem in these different things I think it’s good to start with the problem that many people actually experience experiencing and and I think we should just start from the beginning really yeah let let me just let me just start by assuming

And I would I would yeah before we go into these 12 Fields I I have to tell our audience that um uh a very important message from my book and now in this interview is that once the tumor has grown to a size of 3 4 cm and that’s the average size of

A tumor that produces symptoms so the patient eventually goes and sees a doctor and tells the doctor I I believe something is wrong in my breast or something is wrong in my in my guts or my prostate and at that point in time the tumor has grown already to a big

Size and I I want to say very very clearly and openly to our audience in most cases patients uh that have reached this stage of the disease of a tumor with some centimeters in diameter or bigger there is no way to cure the disease with only naturopathic remedies

At least I don’t know of that’s important a therapy program that is powerful enough to turn this disease around completely and and provide a cure so that is why I I always integrate a surgical aspect of the treatment sometimes I send patients to radiotherapy and I do that as a

Naturopathic holistic spiritual doctor because I have learned the hard way that it is necessary um only in in so this this wonderful self-healing system has obviously failed for a longer period of time probably years uh to allow the tumor to grow to some centimeters and when you have a tumor inside your body

Of many centimeters diameter um this process is to a to a a certain extent dissoci ated from the harmony of your body and it’s very difficult to shrink a many centimeter large tumor just out of your immune system that is very difficult maybe it’s possible in theory

But in practice I I’ve almost never seen it so the message is reduce the tumor for instance with a surgical intervention with an operation as much as possible or take it out and then use the knowledge of the 12 vital fields that we talk about right now um to make

Sure it does not come back or to to reduce the risk that it has spread to other organs and and that you develop metastasis so there there are a hundred reasons why the holistic complementary approach is very very important but I have also to to to say very clearly that

It is not always full spectrum alternative to all kinds of Hospital treatments I I I have come into position where I have to recommend many more and more patients to to see a surgeon to cut out the tumor uh at a time where the disease is still

Curable and not wait until it has metastasized for sure okay we get that and uh to reverse we also have to to acknowledge that um all the the the details that have contributed to the weakening of the body um that eventually allows cancer cells to grow in form a lump um may have

Caused it but if you then um eliminate the cause the tumor is still there yeah yeah so you cannot always expect that by removing the causes the tumor disappears big at that point if it’s three if you remove the causes if you remove the causes the tumors it grows more slowly but it’s

Still there and that’s what western medicine is brilliant of all about right that’s why we need it that’s for life saving instances yeah like surgical stuff and things ABS okay we get that’s a good point yeah for emergency situations and cancer in an advanced stage is very close to an emergency

Emergency might not always mean that you die tomorrow but well if I see somebody with a with a large toor that is close to a big vessel or close to the guts or close to the pancreatic gland where life important hormones are produced then it’s urgent it’s close to an emergency

And and then you don’t have the time to wait until toric and mistletoe and vitamin C turns around your your immune system and and empowers your immune system you just don’t have the time and uh I I give my patients all kinds of examples to understand that they they

They ask me from morning to evening I want heal naturally and then they come with a large tumor as big as a fist I say you can’t do that I I don’t know how to do that I can help you to regain your health after a successful surg surgical operation but um the

Chances that your body takes away a tumor as big as your fist is close to zero yeah so you can empty a a glass of water with a teaspoon that is possible you can if the tool is a teaspoon you can maybe empty a bucket of water if you

Have enough time and empty it but if I tell you please empty the Baltic with a teaspoon it’s not going to work it’s just too much water it’s too big so a tumor of a certain size is just too big for our immune system to eliminate completely so yes we need surgeons and

Then we need a holistic doctor to to help the organism to not produce the same misery one more time to not allow cancer cells that are still in the body after a surgical uh operation to grow a new tumor that’s where our power lies prevention and secondary prevention that means after a surgical

Removal prevention that it does not come back or in a situation where it’s chronic cancer there are many metastases let’s say breast cancer goes into the skeleton or into the liver and no searching can help the patient any longer then we have 100 tools to help

The body body to be strong to keep cancer under control that is also a good example for for sure some of these tools are these are these 12 vital fields of healthy healthy cells so let’s try to let’s try to walk through them I will mention all of them now and we will

Start from the top afterwards so your principle number one is effective inflammatory control number two effective detoxification number three nutritional abundance four abundance of fresh water five sufficient oxygen saturation six proper gut microbiome seven effective Stress Management eight low blood sugar nine smart immune system 10 powerful mitochondrial Function 11

Alkalinity acidity imbalance and 12 infection defense so the number one Whata what do you mean by effect inflammatory control what would these principles sound like yeah okay we all have a system on board in our body that’s called inflammation um and inflammation is a self-repair program a very smart very

Complex self-repair program so thank you God that we I got a beautiful self-repair program called inflammation and sometimes inflammation is a pain in the neck because it’s too much of it and then I get symptoms and suffer from too much of inflammation and that’s the problem of our time inflammation was

Identified as one of the main causes of all the chronic diseases that we suffer from today how is that possible something that has helped our species to survive for hundred thousands of years has now become our big problem there’s a a very good book written about it by a

Dear friend of mine and colleague um a medic medical doctor in the United States Isaac Elias and he calls it the survival Paradox again the immune system is our self-defense system and it works through inflammation if something enters my body a piece of dirt a dirty piece of

Wood or an infection with bacteria or fungal viruses my immune system produces inflammation what does that mean well the the the part of the body that is exposed to these foreign cells to the bacteria or the the tox um swells up so my body dilutes this toxic area with body liquids that’s good

Yeah the solution of pollution is dilution if somebody something is is intoxicated I need to wash the toxins away with with water that’s the principle of dilution so my body sends liquid to this part it swells up my body signalizes me hey something is wrong in

This part of your body don’t use it it’s under repair and that signal is called pain and then it it turns red that means a lot of blood cells go there because with my blood I sent my white blood cells there my mcroof ages to eat up um

The the damaged cells and the Invaders bacteria and all this together is called inflammation a great program of selfdefense isn’t inflammation just a natural part of life or has it become something more serious yes it’s an essential part of life and if we would not be able to react with inflammation

We would have died long time ago from the first virus infection and we get virus infections every year many so what is the problem with inflammation the problem is that the same process um is activated in individuals in Western World countries in modern societies far too often and

Inflammatory signals come to our body far too often and I will soon tell you what these inflammatory signals are uh and they switch on my immune system um and tell my immune system fight for your life something is wrong in your body um but my immune system is not able to

Solve the problem and turn it around and and and um switch off the signals so what signals stimulate my uh my body to react with inflammation in a in a way where inflammation doesn’t help me stress is the number one toxicity is the number two lack of an anti-inflammatory

Food items number three together with food that is pro-inflammatory so long story short there’s a a in-depth chapter in my book about it so I try to summarize it Modern Life in Denmark in Germany in the United States in Western World countries is a life or comes with a lifestyle that switches on

Inflammatory signals all the time the older we grow the more we are inflamed why do Elder people have joint aches it’s it’s a sign of inflammation uh why do Elder people grow fat obese it’s inflammation why do Elder people grow um plaques in their blood vessels and eventually suffer from stroke and heart

Heart attack because of inflammation all these chronic long-term diseases diabetes inflammation obesity overweight inflammation um believe it or not depression has an inflammatory aspect so somebody who is in a depressed state of mind has too much inflammation in its brain so interestingly and strangely and tragically enough um inflammation that

We just said that belongs to normal life it saves our life every time we are infected thanks to the capacity of being inflamed or producing inflammation we survive but now we realize signals from bad food sleeplessness depression stress chemicals um inflammatory food items like pork like refined fat uh or

Hardened fat sorry not refined fat hardened fat um and and the the lack of omega-3 fatty acids all these lifestyle aspects switch on my body’s immune system in a in a unproductive and unhealthy way and I’m having more and more inflammation without a clear Target my my immune system goes crazy and produces

Inflammation but there is no clear Target um my in my immune system cannot change my diet I I eat the wrong diet I eat pork every day and sugar uh and and with this food I get um chemicals in my body that switch on my immune system my

Immune system goes crazy but sorry my immune system cannot change the amount of bad food in my body so it totally runs into the into the wrong direction that makes sense and after years and years of chronic inflammation tissues that are exposed to chronic inflammation turn into a cancer tissue that’s one of

The most common ways to and and the most basic ways to describe um why cells go into a cancer mode because they have been uh stressed biochemically physically stressed through inflammation for a long period of time uh scientists like Otto warborg 4050 years ago a Noel

Prize winner said if you if you expose a tissue to inflammation and lack of oxygen with which is another cause of or a result of of inflammation that the oxygen level goes down uh it sooner or later turns into cancer so that alone is a is a good description of what cancer

Is It’s the reaction of a cell to long-term inflammation and oxygen deprivation so lack of oxygen and chronically inflamed causes cancer okay and that is our lifestyle so um now we can go to the next and the next and the next and I can already at this point of

Our podcast say tell our audience that these 12 factors that matz just read up from my book they are interconnect each other dots and arrows in between vicious spiral okay let’s uh let’s uh move on to the next one detoxification how do we detox properly yeah good question so

Fact is that we produce toxins every day in our body it’s also part of the natural cycle of life we put food into our mouth some of the food is is uh represents energy that or or represents something that we can turn into energy but then there is a an an amount of

Waste products left that we have to excrete we do that every day we pee out or uric acid and protein based products and we have bowel movements that that detox what we don’t need from our digestion and that also contains um the the detoxed uh chemicals that our liver

Detoxifies and excretes in form of bile this dark brown liquid that stains our stool so and uh we sweat out uh waste products through our sweat pores and every minute like seven eight times we exhale uh what do we exhale we exhale t IC gas called carbon dioxide that comes

From all of our cells from the turnover of food into energy uh we we produce carbon dioxide in every cell we exhale it so uh by that I have uh uh defined the four detox Pathways breath sweat urine and stool um and now we can ask ourselves how can we keep this uh

Detoxification system going well we have to make sure we have good bowel movements on our twice once or twice a day is normal many people are constipated uh and don’t get the garbage out um and if you are if you have diarrhea you have an infection or an

Inflammation in your gut system and you need to clean up the infection or the inflammation so um a good and regular bowel movement with firm stool is NE necessary for good health uh we need to excrete the water soluble toxins through the kidneys and the urine system

And we need to drink uh adequate amounts of water approximately 40 milliliters per kilogram body weight a day and for guys like us that would be around 2 and a half lers of pure water that’s what everybody is yeah cheers recommended to drink as I do right now and water please filtered

Water water in good quality um and please don’t drink sodas Fanta Coca-Cola pepsicola all these lemonade is far too sweet um doesn’t give us the water we need and it’s full of chemicals and and colors and and most of all sugar sugar sugar um

So a white soda pops and and a white um pure fruit juices too as as a beverage of fruit juice is actually not a beverage it’s more like a nutrient and it doesn’t give you the water you need to to to make your biochemistry um

Healthy so we all need around two to two and a half liters water of course it depends on the room temperature and climate but approximately 2 and a half but isn’t detoxification also avoiding the toxins into our bodies this can both be through the mouth but also through

The skin because that’s the most present trfic pathway today with all the we put on our bodies so just avoiding that process from occuring I I totally agree I I I listened to a a lecture that another friend of mine a gynecologist in Munich gave in in on a on a um

Complimentary cancer conference in in summer of this year and the topic of his lecture was uh cosmetic products and Tattoos as metabolical dis ruptures so all these things that we put on to on our body the Cosmetics the perfumes the ointments uh contain hundreds of chemicals that are foreign to our

Body and and now we have to to find out to the level of Tolerance of our body um and what we have to avoid and what we should avoid and what we can tolerate um and and the number of of of chemicals just get more and more and more and the

Exposure gets more and more and and the uh let me say a word I don’t want to be um yeah I don’t want to cause too many troubles for the Young Generation that loves tattoos but as a medical doctor I’m really worried about the explosion of the tattoo uh culture of of young

Adults uh the numbers are in Germany about 3 5% of adults between 20 and 30 are tattoed and and the the the size of the tattoos gets bigger and bigger and bigger and um in this lecture I learned that already to three months after getting a tattoo up to 30 40% of the

Pigments are not in the skin any longer but in the lymph nodes and what do metals do in the lymph noes well they change the way lymphocytes white blood cell cells behave etc etc etc so so yes yes that was because you asked through the for sure it’s a

Potential issue um so um I don’t want to frighten those who have chosen to get a tattoo but if if it’s your beloved tattoo then leave it like that and uh and be aware of the risk that comes with more and more uh chemicals that you

Inject into your skin then if you have a tattoo should you get it removed and then cosmetic yeah uh be aware of that and the the what we put into our mouth uh with the pesticides and the the the waste products yeah it’s a big topic um and um I see already now

That we will never make it through all these 12 vital field factors not even if we would have a three or four hour long podcast today so um if we go into the details it becomes um yeah yeah we will just jump over the most important

Components so we can so we can cover cover them thoroughly yeah do you have one is it me oh you can just okay so I was reading something which I found interesting I think it relates a little bit to the sugar intake and stuff the pH

Level of the blood uh can you talk about that because I’ve heard that before and kind of like a how to say something that causes cancer the pH level but I think it’s also a very abstract uh principle for many people you know how can you regulate something can you talk about that

Yeah and before we continue I I want to add something to what I just said about the tattoos I don’t want to be um I want to I don’t want to frighten anybody who has a tattoo it’s quite common nowadays and I definitely don’t say that if you

Have a tattoo you get cancer that’s not what I’m saying I just mention that is another source and the body tolerates as a a certain amount of inflammatory stimula or toxins um and it’s like something you have on your bank account it’s a it’s a certain

Amount of money that you have and then you can lift off but you cannot lift off forever so if you add cigarette smoke and pollutants that you cannot avoid and chemicals from ointments and creams and deodorants and the tattoo and other toxins like alcohol or drugs then you

Will reach the level where your body cannot handle the amount of toxins that’s my message um you can afford a little bit of that and if you smoke a cigarette you will not get cancer from smoking a cigarette but if you smoke a cigarette all the time and you do this

And you do this and you do that then you accumulate toxicity and that will definitely contribute to lower health and to a higher risk of cancer so pH level what’s that well it’s a chemical term we maybe remember from school time um it it has to do with the concentration of hydrogen

Or protons in a liquid that’s what the chemist calls the pH level let’s start from there and hydrogen is a a very common atom it’s the most universal and most common atom in the in the entire universe and then also in our body it’s it’s the most common atom in our body so

We have it Bound in all the organic molecules where hydrogen is a very F common component of of our body molecules but we also have hydrogen in a free form called ionized hydrogen chemical symbol is H+ another word for that is it’s a proton it’s a Charged particle called a

Proton it’s also called hydrogen and it’s the most common element in the human body and the concentration of that H+ atom is measured with a scale and that scale is called pH so it it’s a logarithmic number of the concentration of protons in a liquid and a liquid can have two different

Qualities it can either be an acid or it can be something that we call alkaline an acid take a lemon take vinegar very common acids are liquids with a lot of free proton that’s why they have a sour taste that’s why the taste butts on my tongue give me a sour

Sensation when I get lemon juice in my in my mouth because the hydrogen plus atoms tell my my taste that this is a sour experience um and the opposite would be an alkaline uh liquid vegetables are slightly alkaline cucumbers for instance and they have a different taste they not so clear

Described as sour everybody understands what sour is alkaline taste is more a little bit AR stringent a little bit slimy from the consistency it’s a little bit like soap tiny little bit so that would be an alkaline experience in my mouth and what does the chemists say

About alkalinity well it’s the lack of proton it’s a liquid where protone atoms are are not very concentrated and another type of a chemical uh charged particle is is more dominant and that is called the oh minus molecule so oh minus is alkalinity h plus Is acidity the point of neutrality is

Called ph7 yeah so a liquid that has ph7 is perfectly in balance between H+ and O minus that’s what we call a neutral this water should be pH n seven uh pH with low number is acidity pH with high number is alkalinity and the human body wants to be in balance it

Neither it what does not want to be alkaline it does not want to be acidic it wants to be in Balance um all the stresses of my life inclusive inflammation and inclusive the most common types of toxins make my body acidic it’s just a fact if I sleep too

Little if I stress too much if I eat sugar if I eat white bread with a sweet spread on it if I um eat uh pom frit and chips and uh sweet stuff um my metabolic system turns into acidity the biochemistry behind that is too complicated for this podcast but if you

Put sugar into your mouth you make your body more acidic interestingly enough if you put a sour lemon into your mouth our body turns lemon acid into an alkaline substance you can read about that in my book so not everything that tastes sour in my mouth makes my body acidic or sour

Um but things that my body turned into acidity is what we call acid waste products or acid Ash products and the most common acid Ash products it’s a technical term CH chemical term is sugar red meat uh white flour products that and that is the dominant uh uh part of

Western World diet we eat too much meat and we eat too much potatoes and we eat too much white bread and we put too much sugar in the ketchup and the mustard and everything and the the ready uh canned food is full of sugar why do we have so

Much sugar in our in our preformed industrially pre-formed food because the companies sell more the more sugar they put into the food the more we buy it because we love sugar interesting yeah so uh sugar makes us acidic alcohol makes us acidic um animal food makes us a little bit acidic um and

Um what what is the opposite what makes this alkaline plant-based food salad vegetables that’s where we get alkalinity from because the plant world is more full of and that leads me to one of the other fields um I don’t know how much into nutrition you are but but but

But again you have a principle called nutritional abundance so what are your what are your thoughts on diet do you have some sort of preferred way of eating yes yes yeah yeah again I give you the summarized version because I I I just have to say that every of your

Question would deserve a two hours lecture yeah so the summary version is uh uh an approach to food why do we need food because we keep our body alive we need energy and we need repair particles for our body so we need energy but we also need elements

Chemical elements uh round about 80 different chemical elements is what we need to to keep our body alive and we need the energy that that is stored in the chemical bounds of between the atoms that our body splits up and and takes the energy and creates the the body

Energy that we live from um so an abundance of of food is uh that that we get a hold of all these 80 food items one problem with unhealthy food is it doesn’t give us enough sulfur phosphorus vitamins minerals selenium zinc iron copper Etc iodin um uh and the right

Amount of proteins that are made out of amino acids so um cheap food junk food uh unhealthy food does not give us the variety of uh chemical elements and and molecules that our body needs number two bad food we spoke about that um changes the pH value to acidity and why is

Acidity not good because acidity triggers inflammation and and inflammation reduces the immune systems capacity to find cancer so now You’ we we we got already got a few examples how these factors interact with each other so an abundance of food is aims at the quality of of the variety of all the

The molecules that we need and and the um the next aspect of healthy food is of course quality exactly um food that is not poison food that is produced from healthy living systems from healthy plants and if you eat animal products from healthy animals that have a worthy

Life and that grow up without pesticides and without antibiotics Etc so food has definitely also a quality aspect it has a quantity aspect cheap food does not contain the quantities but it also comes with pesticides and contaminants and things that are not good to the body

That’s the quality aspect um and then um the next aspect in the food chapter is does it create inflammation or not and healthy food is anti-inflammatory a 100 years ago our food was much more anti-inflammatory than nowadays because of Many Many Factors it contained four omega-3 fatty

Acids more Trace elements um and because of modern agriculture uh we have exploited the the resources of our our fields in terms of selenium and sink and and uh other minerals we throw artificial fertilizers on the fields um but we we we disrupt and we we destroy

The Natural Balance of minerals in the soil and that’s why the food products that we Harvest are not good enough to give us uh all the chemicals we need two examples very very important for cancer uh medicine vitamin D and omega-3 fatty acids maybe the two most important deficient

Molecules that average people lack in their diet um especially in the dark part of the year we all need some extra vitamin D especially in the northern countries um and we we all need or most people need more omega-3 fatty acids a very healthy fly unsaturated fatty acid

That is uh that you find in Marine products like fish and krill and algaes but very very little in in in um food and is grown on uh on the earth because um these organisms do not produce uh much omega-3 fatty acids there are two exceptions that’s Lin seed linseed oil

Is a is a good source for omega-3 fatty acids um and Prime Rose but Prime Rose is very expensive almost nobody buys Prime rose oil because it’s used in cosmetics and it’s a it’s an anti-inflammatory oil for skin INF for instance uh it’s a remedy for inflammatory diseases so the the the

Most easiest way to get omega-3 fatty acids from plant-based products is LIN seed uh and um but the even more powerful version of it in in a more active uh form of omega-3 fatty acids is is what you find in Marine products in in krill in small fish and Herring or in

In health supplements that you can buy in a health food store um and these these two items are anti-inflammatory act anti-inflammatory Believe It or Not vitamin D and omega-3 fatty acids help us to keep inflammation down um and that that is a very very common efficiency in in in everybody’s

Diet that these two components are missing if you had to structure the perfect diet for the Youth today because you just mentioned yourself that so much of the food now is even though you think you might get it from a good source even the soil has been you know deprived of

All of its minerals so I mean it’s difficult to find the nutrition you need like what would the perfect if you just had to break it down in certain foods and and in terms of like plant-based and meat and these kind of thing from a cancer perspective what

How you structure it yeah well there is a food brochure the shortest version to give you an answer that is professional is my food brochure on our website that that people can order and download it’s a 15 18 page version uh this is a leur in

Itself and I can give you a few key words now um eat more fresh food go to the food store and eat more in the fresh Department salad um colorful vegetables uh peppers tomatoes red beads carrots cabbage cabbage is extremely healthy also fermented uh cabbage so-called sauerkraut very famous in Germany is

Super healthy it’s healthy because of cabbage and the sulfurous sulfurous components in in in cabbage which is a anti-cancer um uh anti-cancer molecule in itself cruciferous vegetables in other words cabbage broccoli brussel sprouts uh all the members of the cruciferous uh family contain anti-cancer molecules called sulane and indul

Carbinol Alo fancy names are can be found in the literature so components that have anti-cancer properties that reduce the production of anti of cancer cells proven scientifically proven broccoli Sprouts contain the highest um amount of sulane and suoane is a very very well described and understood anti-cancer component so back to healthy

Diet for for everybody and also for young adults as you said fresh salads smoothies if you want if you need more energy put the veggies and the fruits into a juicer or or make your own smoothies add a little bit of coconut oil add a little bit of linseed oil to

Get omega-3 fatty acids eat um seeds and Grains sun sunflower seeds pumpkin seeds nuts very healthy and you get omega3 fatty acids and uh vitamin E in nuts very important selenium Paran nuts contain selenium eat a Paran nut a day to make sure you get enough selenium

Most soils in Denmark and Germany and Central Europe uh contain too little selenium so we have a an epitomy of of selenium deficiency almost everybody has a little to little selenium you can measure that and find out if you have enough um and if not it’s very easy to

To supplement um Health supplements are a good Choice there I I have started with it more than 10 years ago and I believe that that contributes to my good health thanks God I can say that I’m um I’m a healthy 59y old guy and um part of my My Philosophy is that

I make sure I get enough Trace elements and and the micronutrients that keep my my in inflammation uh under control so I I I take a few supplements every morning to contribute to my what about animal derived products both stuff that comes from animals like milk and egg but also

Animals themselves there’s different meat there’s white meat there’s fish there’s red meat there big question big question is a vegetarian lifestyle better than um than uh animal products in moderation very very difficult question to answer answer let’s be honest for sure I can say for sure I can say

That in average Europeans and even more American people eat too much animal products so we should reduce the intake the consumption of of animal products mostly red meat uh in average to a lower level we we have consumed too much meat in general um animal food is not only bad yeah it

Gives us iron for instance it gives us proteins um and there is an ethical and a more philosophical and sometimes even a religious aspect of it I respect vegetarians I I have met people who are Buddhists or Janes from India who have to stay away from from animal products

Because of religious reasons and I I respect that but I advise them to be very careful with protein intake and ate more legums uh and protein rich food from grains and sprouts and seeds because leaves and berries do not contain so much uh um proteins so we need proteins

We need uh Trace elements like iodin where do we find iodin in in Marine products in fish and shells and and shrimps and seafood or in in Sea grass which is not a part of our traditional food that’s very common in Japan and in in South uh East Asia but we don’t eat

So much SE grass don’t we but seagrass would be very healthy and give us uh iodin and and um other and also proteins so if you like eat seagrass um it’s about the right quantity um I feel a little stressed by by the question because it’s so big it’s

So complex yeah read at least 20 Page brochure otherwise my answer is always incomplete it need everything needs to be in Balance we need to eat the food that gives our body all the building partic the building blocks that we need we need to to eat the right

Amount of protein your question is what a nutritionist discusses with a patient in two or three sessions an hour each to give a professional answer um so in average let’s make it simple in average eat less uh red meat eat more fish and poultry if you eat red

Meat make sure it comes from a healthy animal lamb deer Ren uh cattle grass-fed cattle from an organic farm avoid pork avoid um cheap meat that comes from industrial production because that’s just bad food and it’s also ethically very very unsatisfactory um so I already said eat fresh and and uh

Eat a variety of legums and and vegetables go for the color colorful vegetables are especially healthy everything that is colorful red or purple contains healthy pigments Tomatoes red beads uh Etc onions super healthy um variety and quality let’s say let’s say I was diagnosed with cancer

And I became a patient of yours what would such a process look look like well well thank you for that question um very practical you find us um and you go to our website and find our email address and you send us an email and then my secretary Tanya takes over and

Contacts you um and uh sends you a questionnaire and asks you to send us as much of your medical documentation as you can get hold of you ask your doctor your nurse uh to give you copies of your last CD scan if you have any or doctor’s report uh pathology report blood values

And you send whole chunk to Tanya by email uh and fill out the questionnaire the questionnaire is about how are you what symptoms do you suffer from do you have pain can you manage your day-to-day situation or do you need a caretaker Etc so performance status that we get an

Idea on how you are and what you can do if you if we can take care of you because Arcadia Clinic is not a a big hospital with uh uh day and night care for bedridden P patients but Arcadia Clinic is a a treatment uh clinic for

Patients who can live like Hotel guests in a in a beautiful guest room and we have laundry service and room service and restaurant and full W meals but it’s more like in a hotel not like in a in a hospital for bedridden patients we cannot take care of bedridden patients

So and then I um I look through uh the the your documents your questionnaire and by the way we are three medical doctors I have two colleagues uh here uh that help me to to do the work uh so we one of us will look through the

Documents and then uh we get back to you very fast normally within two or three days uh with a an offer we invite you uh to have a video consultation with us um and uh where we get to know each other it’s 20 minutes it’s uh for free um and

Uh we look at each other and and I describe what we could do um and uh to get to know each other and that results in a written proposal that we send to the patient uh and then you can decide whether you want to accept the proposal

Or not in average patients with cancer and patients knock at our door most of the time not as the first clinic but more likely when they have difficulties and when their oncologist tells them um it doesn’t look that good and that’s that’s our daily work to to to take care

Of patients who have already been in treatments for a while so the the average uh investment in time and money to come to our Clinic is three weeks some patients can afford to come for two weeks and that’s good one week is in most cases not long enough to give us a

Chance to to help the patient two weeks is good three weeks is better so uh patient gets a a written Proposal with a list of all the therapies that we do here and um can then make a choice and say well I come uh and then we take over the

Planning um from Denmark most patients come by car some come by train some come by airplane and we pick them up in frankurt airport uh from other countries we have patients here from from all over the world we we we we counted through the the number of countries we had more

Than 50 different countries here in the last year so um and and then we we start on day one with a long list of laboratory tests we have a laboratory that is able to detect circulating tumor cells and do a chemos sensitivity analysis based on circulating tumor cells what is that

That’s a cuttingedge laboratory technique to test what drugs are most effective uh for this individual so we take out blood the laboratory finds circulating cancer cells in this blood tube and checks around 16 uh drugs that we choose out from a long list uh the 16 drugs

That are most likely to be helpful and to uh to kill the cancer cells and the Laboratory test that comes back after six days tells us that this drug is the best and next best is this but this drug didn’t work at all so instead of making

The experiment in the patient we we we we do the experiment at the at the laboratory and use the test result to find the best drugs uh for this individual patient and then we we uh we treat with in um according to patient’s needs of course but let me

Say it’s something more common it’s colon cancer with a metastasis in the liver or it’s colon cancer reoccurring after successful surgery and now their metastasis somewhere in lymph nodes or the lungs or the Li this is a very common situation for us or it’s breast cancer with metastasis

That has come back after successful surgery this is maybe the one of the most common types of patients that call us um and then we we write a therapy plan and we use less toxic drugs or non-toxic drugs and that again is now we deserve a longer discussion how do we do

That uh a treatment plan is made uh by one of the doctors that includes a variety of injectable anti-cancer drugs and what makes it special is that we have uh a compound pharmacy that produces injectable natural anti-cancer drugs with almost no toxicity okay such as high dosage vitamin C turmeric extract Chinese warmwood

Extract um green tea extract canabidol for injection from Cannabis the non- psychotropic part of cannabis called CBD um altogether more than 10 Botanicals DCA dechlor acetat uh sual from Ginger Etc a long list mistletoe of course but how do you incorporate these natural remedies into the into the treatment

Process I assume there’s also that part of it and not just the the regular therapeutic yeah so based on experience and based on Laboratory Testing result if if the disease has a inflammatory component which is most of the case in which is which is a fact in most

Of the cases then we use turmeric because cumin from turmeric because cumin is a very powerful anti-inflammatory molecule or we use R verol from from grape extract um so it’s B your question how do we incorporate these drugs based on experience based on the literature but also based on the

Individual test I actually meant I actually meant uh not the not the natural remedies in terms of the drugs but these core principles these these vital Fields do you include those in the treatment process as well with your patients oh yes that is that that is the background it’s inflammation control

With yeah it’s inflammation control with healthy food anti-inflammatory food anti-inflammatory plant extracts in capsule form and anti-inflammatory infusions pemf therapy pulsed electromagnetic frequency therapy with special magnetic devices inhalation with hydrogen we could talk an hour about hydrogen super exciting inhalation of H2 hydrogen in gas form is a new way to

Treat chronic inflammation the literature of the last years has has revealed that it’s a very powerful and totally non-toxic treatment and it’s even cheap you need a hydrogen generator and you inhale H2 3/4 of an hour a day uh and that reduces your inflammatory overheated Pathways and it gives even

Power to the mitochondria and more and more so there so many details that we can do we we believe me the therapy plan is quite a complex uh uh program with oxygen inhalation hydrogen inhalation massage therapy we didn’t even touch the mental part please give me at least 10

Minutes to speak a little bit about emotions and the mental part because that’s extremely important too uh so we build up we we use biohacking Technologies yeah pemf and hydrogen inhalation is is Cutting Edge biohacking yeah the new term how we hack into the biology of our cells and make them more

Powerful um and the more we repair the mitochondrial damage mitochondria are the small power plants inside our cells this is my cell model so a cell membrane and the nucleus of the cell where the genes are and these beanik structures and here’s one with an open surface are called

Mitochondria and some cells have up to many hundred of these mitochondria and that’s where the cell produces the uh biochemical energy in form of ATP we could not live 10 seconds without ATP so as long as we live our mitochondria produce uh ATP somebody calculated out how much ATP we produce

It equals the weight of my body of our body so my body has produced 80 kilogram of ATP today what have I done with 80 kilogram of ATP I have kept my life on uh going yeah I I produce it and I break it down I produce it and I break it down

So uh biohacking is very much about mitochondrial empowerment uh biohacking systems like magnetic frequencies and inhalation of H2 or cold plants if you are a fan of whmh half and cold PLS you can do cold PLS or or or cold shower to activate your mitochondria it’s also a

Biohacking device or breath work you can do breathing exercises the wiim half breathing technique uh or other breathing techniques uh that uh come with intensified breathing breathing for like 20 or 30 minutes empowers uh the mitochondrial function and what has that to do with cancer the answer is a lot if

We can uh stimulate the Vitality of mitochondria we can make cancer cells dormant we can make cancer cells we can turn them into a almost healthy form of cellular life that’s published in magasins like Nature and Science so there is a a prophecy for the future

That we might be able to cure cancer once in the future if we learn even more how to reactivate the mitochondria because cancer is a disease with damage in the mitochondria that’s that’s the mitochondrial part of my 12-fold vital field and so everything we know that empowers uh the energy production in our

Mitochondria will help us to get cancer under control at least better than if we would not do it so how do we incorporate drug we have these drugs in oral forms like we have uh enzymes to reduce inflammation and improv digestion we have tumeric in in capsule form and it’s

A Well we it’s a catalog of around 50 different uh supplements that we um compose based on the patient’s needs and the laboratory findings and some of the drugs are available in an injectable form that’s what we give in in IVs inject in intravenous infusions and we do that in

Combination with heat therapy so called hyperthermia where we heat up the cancerous uh diseas the the cancerous tissues or the organ that is affected with cancer with harmless radio waves no damage is done with radio waves but the tumor becomes warmer and when the tumor is warmer or overheated it’s weaker to

Resist the drugs and because of the vessel widening that comes with hypothermia we get more of the drugs into the overheated part of the of the disease so we create a a very complex um therapy program that is described in the book where we add heat magnetism oxygen hydrogen food supplements natural

Anti-cancer drugs and now last not least the power of our mind that was uh what we have not addressed yet in in our podcast now how important is that well as important as everything we have mentioned so far um true healing comes from within healing is what happens in between the the

Therapies and healing is not possible if someone is in a fearful state of mind or in a stressful state of mind healing is just not possible the body needs to be in a relaxed parasympathetic mode parasympathetic means relaxation the relaxation symptom medical doctors or biologists call that the parasympathetic nervous system it’s the

Brother of the sympathetic nervous system that is the flight and fight and survival mode and that’s another Pitfall of modern man in the beautiful world we have created with all the industrialism and the communication that we have now which is enormous and sometimes fascinating but

It also it also stresses us and all the stress that comes from the cell phones and from the emails and from the buzz from all sides um changes the balance between relaxation and activation into sympathetic stress mode and stress keeps on killing us it’s the number one reason

For too early death uh if you follow um an expert uh publication from the World Health Organization from many many years ago stress is the number one reason for too early death in modern societies because stress switches off our self-healing capacity and creates inflammation and takes away our sleep

And sleep is a very precious time for our body to regenerate sleep comes with alkalinity and now you see again how the things uh uh are connected yeah the day activity makes us more acidic and we need seven eight hours night sleep to produce more alkaline products in our

Liver and our Dum in the in the small intestines uh to compensate uh the the acidity alkalinity balance and also the our nervous system which is sympathetic parasympathetic should be in Balance but we we stress so much we we sleep too little and we answer too many phone

Calls and answer all the hundreds of of males that we get every day and that switches on the sympathetic nervous system over and over again and that does not allow the body to heal self-healing is dependent on Paras parasympathetic nervous activation and that is again where something where where breathing

Exercises meditation yoga mindfulness exercises um play a major role so we teach in the after in the morning we give the in the infus with the drugs and the hypothermia and the oxygen and the massage and the PM treatments pulse electromagnetic frequency abbreviation PM and in the

Afternoon we have um the meetings with the c with the cancer coach uh uh we have a cancer coach on board Mona Meer my dear colleague who sits in the room here next door a g meets patient in the afternoon in both group sessions but also in individual sessions and teach us

Our patients how to get out of stress with body exercises but also with mental training and mental exercises um and that is as important as the healthy food at least interesting it’s inner toxicity unhealthy thoughts are like toxic products that the the brain sends down

To the body and we know that the brain is connected to our immune system um and uh the scientific description of that is called psychon neuroimmunology psycho neuroimmunology it’s a academic discipline with textbooks and hundreds if not probably thousands of Publications already that describe the connection between the

Brain and the immune system the connection is very very strong if this podcast makes you happy you have a stronger immune system and uh an hour ago and if this podcast would stress you and worry you your immune system would go down that’s how how important the the

Mind Body Connection is for sure it’s uh really stresses what we do as well we got to do stuff that makes us happy you know maybe that’s also a huge maybe that’s the would you say that’s the number one factor for maybe why this happen so much maybe people don’t do

What they love they don’t do what they find interesting and stuff like that could that could you say that’s maybe the biggest Factor yes yes I’m tempted to say yes but then I’m a holistic person again and say it’s not only that it’s that in combination with other things so the Temptation is

To look for the one for the single one reason um and um the answer is always it’s more complex than what you think um and go through your life and find out is it the junk food or is it a stress um we know we all know people who have lived a very

Intensive life and maybe they have smoked a few cigarettes and not always eating the most healthy diet but they they grow old and they are happy and then we have tea tolers who never touched a glass of beer and and and live from from vegan food only and they

Attract cancer at the age of 30 I I this these are real examples why is that the case the answer is always an individual one there is no rule for everybody and and what I want to do with the book and also with this presentation today is to

Me to TAP all these factors and then to leave it up to you and the listeners to find out where are my weak spots is it stress in my life or is it junk food or is it toxicity from from the sprays of my Farmer next door um that I inhale

Every day or was it just uh a virus infection together maybe with some stress here I am again with combination of factors but um if a girl gets a virus infection uh from sexual intercourse at the age of 13 when her vaginal or 14 when her vaginal uh microbiome is is not

Stable and and powerful and catches a virus and develops 15 year later cervical cancer then I have to say that this Virus Infection is probably the number one cause for the cervical cancer at the age of 30 sounds intense yeah so sometimes it’s a virus sometimes it’s chronic stress and

Um simple answers are and generalizing answers are always um wrong you there there is no no one answer for for 500 types of cancer but uh now at least we have a map where we can look at it’s yeah you now I mentioned the factor number 11 which is

Infection defense let’s talk a minute about this case that I just took as an example infection defense um it’s a fact that sexual intercourse comes with uh the risk of an infection but if you have a proper infection defense you you can deal with it yeah and um the the

Natural um way of a an infection defense uh in the female vagina happens around the age of 16 17 18 when the terrain of the vagina is characterized by a powerful microbiome like in the intestines it’s a different kind of microbiome so it’s it’s a it’s a combination of healthy uh lactic acid

Bacteria and if that is not there then in infectious particles hit the tissues uh and and cause an infection that can be difficult to get rid of so infection defense is very important um by the way I recommend uh women with uh uh genital infections to repair their microbiome by using special

Um pills with lactic acids for this very purpose they’re made by pharmaceutical company and can be bought in a in a pharmacy to restore and repair a damaged vaginal microbiome something that happens even for adult women after an antibiotic treatment yeah antibiotics are sometimes life-saving but they can also destroy

The microbiome not only in the guts but also in other parts of the body so you need to repair the microbiome again um and to have a good infection defense now we have an example for Factor 11 on my on my field map for sure so lack of

Infection defense can after 10 years cause cancer all right Henning thanks a lot for this amazing conversation I think I think the danger of being holistic is that you need to invest so much time in each point to to to make the to make the message clear so maybe

If you’re interesting or if you’re interested then we can make a part two for another time where we go more more in depth in the part particular components yeah for sure yep do the listeners have a a chance to give you a feedback maybe you want to

Ask your audience what they like to hear more about no problem yeah they can just write they know that now yeah but yeah definitely okay and then we do a second we do a second episode definitely interesting but my answer to your statement yes it’s correct it’s it’s

It’s complex but we have no other choice either we either we understand it or we just run into the problem totally agree so sorry it’s just to accept that that it is it is complex and that we need to work uh for a better health otherwise

Yeah that’s how I started it really that complex you know I mean I mean of course it’s complex to understand it to the level intellectually as you are doing it but again I mean we we know that the soda and these things are not good for

Us so at the end of the day it’s complex but it’s also simple you know but great points you’re right so I’m looking forward to your feedback and hope that we shed some light uh on very important life aspects and that the audience also got something tangible out of of the

Podcast that we can contribute to a better life and a better health uh and um there’s so much we can do and we’re not dependent uh on Pharmaceuticals only hening thank you thank you so much and um yeah you’ll hear from us with the part two at sometimes in the future it’s

Been a it’s been a true pleasure yeah likewise thank you Jacob and Mets keep up the good work bye