are you just going to race hillclimbs on it? Then you’re fine.
Do you want to do long days with descending in bad/mixed weather on those same carbon wheels? Not as fine.
AlexMTBDude on
If we only knew what “rimbreaks” were then we could tell you whether they were dead or not 🙂
Eat_Your_Paisley on
If you like the bike and it fits then it’ll be great whether it has rim brakes or not.
Prune-Lumpy on
Dude, it’s a hill climb bike and it’s an uber light frame and kitted with sram red? You can do no better; rim brake is ideal for this. That said, weight matters less than everyone thought (unless your speeds are very very slow), in which case sram red won’t fix you. But, I’m also a recovering weight weenie and I have a very similar setup as my primary road bike. I love how snappy it feels, even if I am very drag heavy. Yes, any steep or long descents where you need braking power will be sketchy and you will just plow through the softer carbon pads.
But…I’d buy it. You can buy a cheap ospw cage on AliExpress for $25 or something and put on a larger cassette.
How much are they asking?
Also lol at biggie bigs chain.
naambezet on
Only if you break the rim
NoDivergence on
One of the best bikes ever made. Do note though, despite the red group and the super trick SISL2 crankset, this is a regular modulus frame. Not the high mod
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edit: this is a high mod. That’s the good shit
lazabeaaam on
Never! Currently rolling rim brakes on a Pinarello Gan
Edit: Love the bike!
Pirate1000rider on
Never!
A well set up rim brake with something like SwissStop or Koolstop pads. Will stop you more than adequately well.
I use SS Yellow King pads & reynolds carbon rims and the only real downside is when it’s pissing it down. A little bit of water is fine (for instance if it rained the night before), but if your out and it gets biblical? Then not so much.
I don’t feel the need for disc brakes just yet on my road bike.
I have them on the mtb sure. But that’s pretty much 15kg (Hope HB 160). My Canyon is sub 7kg, less than half that. I’m 75kg so I’m not a fat bastard either.
sopsaare on
Never, not dead and never gonna die.
Especially for us that don’t really need brakes, rim brakes are more than fine. And then again I descended a lot couple of years ago as I was at Appalachian mountains and didn’t really have any problems, not really even in the rain. Then again I took it safe and only went over 100Km/h couple of times.
bnzboy on
Dead from the industry’s point of view for the profit’s sake.
Still very alive within the cycling community and people’s heart.
BasedClockmaker on
Ask BikeSnobNYC lmao
thishasntbeeneasy on
That bike has disc brakes, silly. They are 622mm rotors.
_windfish_ on
Do you mean rim brakes?
Yes, and good riddance lol
Key_Function3732 on
That bike is so fire though…
alexaschwanden on
That cross-chaining is more concerning 😟
moijk on
For the foreseeable future, you’re safe. But going on – It’s going to be harder to find wheelsets for rim, harder to sell wheelsets as the marked shrinks. And the used price of rim brake bikes seem to take a hit.
SwampCrittr on
I’ve got a rim brake Cipollini and Disc brake Cervelo. All bikes have their place
heapinhelpin1979 on
I’ll say this for rim brakes, I have gotten way more rides out of the rubber pads on a rim brake than on most disks. I never have seen a rim brake on any of my bikes that was so worn that it would not stop you. However with a disk, I certainly have seen them go to the point where they do nothing at all, having to result to my feet to stop.
evan938 on
Rim brakes are FINE. gf and I were in Colorado and Utah last summer and did descents from Fremont Pass, Tennessee Pass, Vail Pass, National Monument in GJ, LA Sal Mountain loop in Moab, Mt Evans…both of us on rim brakes and no issues.
People seem to forget that rim brakes existed before disc brakes and these mountains haven’t changed by more than a couple inches since bicycles were invented. Lol.
movtga on
I’ve got both. I like both. Lots of descending I’ll take the disc. Some wet descending I’ll take the disc. Cool bike.
Ill_Initiative8574 on
For hillclimb you want the lightest possible of everything. Rim BRAKES (not breaks ffs) are much lighter than discs, especially hydro discs, so that would be the way to go.
That’s a really nice bike, btw.
ceriks on
Yup
buttsnuggles on
Does a hill climb bike even need brakes? 🙃
uwpxwpal on
The big three ( or is it two?) component makers think that rim brakes are dead. The big bike manufacturers think so too.
Toppico on
Mass industry has put them in a box high up on a shelf to be forgotten about but middle-sized companies like Ritchey are still keeping them alive (they just re-released their road logic with a rim brake option), and loads of custom makers will still make you one. And component companies continue to make them so you’re likely to have options for many years to come.
Especially for hill climbing, I couldn’t see a good reason not to buy something like this over a disc brake model.
Icy_Television_4460 on
Just got a bike with rim brake. I am still alive.
WiartonWilly on
Climbing implies descending.
Discs are awesomer.
bill-smith on
Define dead?
Depending on your experience, you may want to be careful with carbon rims and braking, especially in the wet. The best carbon rims plus pads are probably no different from aluminum rims in the dry, but I don’t know what vintage those Zipps are. If they don’t brake well to you, you could consider getting a set of aluminum rims for the wetter parts of the year, but you do have to change brake pads.
Aside from that, it’s more like the drivetrain manufacturers aren’t putting new technical development into rim brake stuff. You should be able to find niche rim manufacturers going forward. Drivetrain manufacturers might stop making spares for their rim brake components at some point in the future. We don’t know when. At that time, you could just find a used disc brake bike.
Other than that, I can’t advise on is this bike worth it. That’s a more subjective assessment.
TheDaysComeAndGone on
I regret buying a rim brake road bike 6 years ago. The braking performance is so much worse in wet weather and they are much harder to apply smoothly (especially when wet). It’s mostly an issue because we have >10% grades here where you can reach >65km/h and I ride in all kinds of weather. For flat terrain (e.g. along the Danube) it’s absolutely not an issue.
osirisphotography on
coaster brakes were the high point.
ConstructionFar8570 on
Died long ago.
triplesspressso on
Still alive and kickin
DurasVircondelet on
Well for one thing, it’s brake, not break
Ok-Sir645 on
I finally went disc and I regret it. Especially since I frequently travel with my bike. Rim brakes are much easier to maintain, less prone to needing adjustments, and while they do stop better/faster, rim brakes get the job done.
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are you just going to race hillclimbs on it? Then you’re fine.
Do you want to do long days with descending in bad/mixed weather on those same carbon wheels? Not as fine.
If we only knew what “rimbreaks” were then we could tell you whether they were dead or not 🙂
If you like the bike and it fits then it’ll be great whether it has rim brakes or not.
Dude, it’s a hill climb bike and it’s an uber light frame and kitted with sram red? You can do no better; rim brake is ideal for this. That said, weight matters less than everyone thought (unless your speeds are very very slow), in which case sram red won’t fix you. But, I’m also a recovering weight weenie and I have a very similar setup as my primary road bike. I love how snappy it feels, even if I am very drag heavy. Yes, any steep or long descents where you need braking power will be sketchy and you will just plow through the softer carbon pads.
But…I’d buy it. You can buy a cheap ospw cage on AliExpress for $25 or something and put on a larger cassette.
How much are they asking?
Also lol at biggie bigs chain.
Only if you break the rim
One of the best bikes ever made. Do note though, despite the red group and the super trick SISL2 crankset, this is a regular modulus frame. Not the high mod
​
edit: this is a high mod. That’s the good shit
Never! Currently rolling rim brakes on a Pinarello Gan
Edit: Love the bike!
Never!
A well set up rim brake with something like SwissStop or Koolstop pads. Will stop you more than adequately well.
I use SS Yellow King pads & reynolds carbon rims and the only real downside is when it’s pissing it down. A little bit of water is fine (for instance if it rained the night before), but if your out and it gets biblical? Then not so much.
I don’t feel the need for disc brakes just yet on my road bike.
I have them on the mtb sure. But that’s pretty much 15kg (Hope HB 160). My Canyon is sub 7kg, less than half that. I’m 75kg so I’m not a fat bastard either.
Never, not dead and never gonna die.
Especially for us that don’t really need brakes, rim brakes are more than fine. And then again I descended a lot couple of years ago as I was at Appalachian mountains and didn’t really have any problems, not really even in the rain. Then again I took it safe and only went over 100Km/h couple of times.
Dead from the industry’s point of view for the profit’s sake.
Still very alive within the cycling community and people’s heart.
Ask BikeSnobNYC lmao
That bike has disc brakes, silly. They are 622mm rotors.
Do you mean rim brakes?
Yes, and good riddance lol
That bike is so fire though…
That cross-chaining is more concerning 😟
For the foreseeable future, you’re safe. But going on – It’s going to be harder to find wheelsets for rim, harder to sell wheelsets as the marked shrinks. And the used price of rim brake bikes seem to take a hit.
I’ve got a rim brake Cipollini and Disc brake Cervelo. All bikes have their place
I’ll say this for rim brakes, I have gotten way more rides out of the rubber pads on a rim brake than on most disks. I never have seen a rim brake on any of my bikes that was so worn that it would not stop you. However with a disk, I certainly have seen them go to the point where they do nothing at all, having to result to my feet to stop.
Rim brakes are FINE. gf and I were in Colorado and Utah last summer and did descents from Fremont Pass, Tennessee Pass, Vail Pass, National Monument in GJ, LA Sal Mountain loop in Moab, Mt Evans…both of us on rim brakes and no issues.
People seem to forget that rim brakes existed before disc brakes and these mountains haven’t changed by more than a couple inches since bicycles were invented. Lol.
I’ve got both. I like both. Lots of descending I’ll take the disc. Some wet descending I’ll take the disc. Cool bike.
For hillclimb you want the lightest possible of everything. Rim BRAKES (not breaks ffs) are much lighter than discs, especially hydro discs, so that would be the way to go.
That’s a really nice bike, btw.
Yup
Does a hill climb bike even need brakes? 🙃
The big three ( or is it two?) component makers think that rim brakes are dead. The big bike manufacturers think so too.
Mass industry has put them in a box high up on a shelf to be forgotten about but middle-sized companies like Ritchey are still keeping them alive (they just re-released their road logic with a rim brake option), and loads of custom makers will still make you one. And component companies continue to make them so you’re likely to have options for many years to come.
Especially for hill climbing, I couldn’t see a good reason not to buy something like this over a disc brake model.
Just got a bike with rim brake. I am still alive.
Climbing implies descending.
Discs are awesomer.
Define dead?
Depending on your experience, you may want to be careful with carbon rims and braking, especially in the wet. The best carbon rims plus pads are probably no different from aluminum rims in the dry, but I don’t know what vintage those Zipps are. If they don’t brake well to you, you could consider getting a set of aluminum rims for the wetter parts of the year, but you do have to change brake pads.
Aside from that, it’s more like the drivetrain manufacturers aren’t putting new technical development into rim brake stuff. You should be able to find niche rim manufacturers going forward. Drivetrain manufacturers might stop making spares for their rim brake components at some point in the future. We don’t know when. At that time, you could just find a used disc brake bike.
Other than that, I can’t advise on is this bike worth it. That’s a more subjective assessment.
I regret buying a rim brake road bike 6 years ago. The braking performance is so much worse in wet weather and they are much harder to apply smoothly (especially when wet). It’s mostly an issue because we have >10% grades here where you can reach >65km/h and I ride in all kinds of weather. For flat terrain (e.g. along the Danube) it’s absolutely not an issue.
coaster brakes were the high point.
Died long ago.
Still alive and kickin
Well for one thing, it’s brake, not break
I finally went disc and I regret it. Especially since I frequently travel with my bike. Rim brakes are much easier to maintain, less prone to needing adjustments, and while they do stop better/faster, rim brakes get the job done.