An excellent evening (and many thanks to Britt for giving up her Thanksgiving for us, much appreciated).
Britt (from Oklahoma) ties us some of her favorite Western Trout Flies.
1. A size 8 Beer Can Blue (named after Beer Can Beach).
2. A size 10 Butt Head Attractor (a stimulator pattern) named for the hot spot butt and head.
3. A size 10 “Tom Thumb” (a hatching sedge patter that is easy to tie that catches loads of fish).
4. A size 12 Beetle Bug Palmer (a variation of the Beetle Bug) that will float all day long.
5. A size 12 “Quigley’s Film Critic” (a loveley emerger pattern) Ive gotta tie up some of these.!!
6. A size 12 “Shake’y Beeley”(named after a guy that was so excited he’d caught a fish on it he was shaking with excitement). !!!!!
7. A size 2 Royal Treatment (a Steel Head fly).
There we go I’ll hand it over to you brick tell me when you want to sh share the screen I’ll keep letting people in thank you Derek um first off thank you everybody for letting me tie for you tonight I’ve been watching for a while
So it’s um nice to be in front of the vice for once um today is our Thanksgiving so I have the day off of work which is the only reason working usually not work meetings um let’s start so tonight I’m going to be toing some Western trout
Flies just more or less my favorite patterns that I like to fish out here I live in Idaho um so we’ve got lots of rivers here um so I I put together a little PowerPoint to kind of G give a frame of reference as to where we fish how we
Fish um I won’t go into a lot of detail about this the techniques but um it’ll give you an idea of what our Rivers look like and which speaks a lot to how our FES are tied um so and with yall being over in the UK mostly um I didn’t figure
You know probably too much about Idaho um I’ll go ahead and share my screen now if anybody has questions just holler out and I’ll do my best to answer them you want me to click on share screen let me check uh it says host disabled participant screen sharing hang
On uh what do I click on share there we go oh so you’re screen sharing now oh bike that’s not my bike that’s the wrong one D I done wrong just glad it’s a bike that’s a might nice fly you tied there uh hang on let’s try stop screen
Share right if I go to the little icon down there that was an English Harley one par can share at a time there we go multiple there we go you should be able to do it now Brett me check oh there we go perfect oh I have better Like it I don’t know how to operate it the Dam should be down the left hand side usually can you see that uh it’s a nice looking River okay you can see it we can see the presentation B but it’s not in like presentation mode there you go okay perfect and curious Brit that fly that was on your desktop
What’s the name of that one um I named it cold springs okay I tied it for Brian he was bitching because I hadn’t tied him a fancy fly yet so ah so it’s an original yeah I wanted to try a delta wing um which is kind so I did that and it’s
Cold springs is one of our favorite camping spots cool and it’s the only one and I’ll never die it again well how how long that take you know it took me just one full day just to marry the wings um three on top three on bottom and then
Same on the back side so it took all day just to marry the WIS wow that’s s it um it was fun and I did it and I did it and and probably never do it again um so like I said I live in Idaho so you might wonder what where is
Idaho a lot of people don’t really know where Idaho is even people that live in the US don’t know where it is which is fine they can stay other show you migan is it so so we’re up in the this the one in red is Idaho so we’re in the Inland
Northwest um we’re surrounded by Washington Oregon Nevada Utah Wyoming and Montana so we’re kind of right in the middle of a lot of really good fishing opportunities um um most people think of Idaho they think of Idaho potatoes I don’t know if that’s a thing in the UK
But anywhere in the US they just Ido potatoes that’s all they think of which again that’s fine um we have a lot more than that though the southern part of the state is mostly potato Fields but the Central and Northern parts of the state are very different uh we’ve got the rivers we
Have spring creeks uh which are their source is a spring which gives us more uniform water levels and temperatures and then they’re generally very nutrient DSE um so lots of aquatic plant growth insects that sort of thing we have a few of them here it’s not the majority
Though um this is a photo from the Henry’s Fork of the Snake River which is the railroad Ranch section is the the Spring Creek section of it um it’s quite the there are to have and I believe everybody you go there once a year usually and it’s just amazing
Amazing we also have silver similar not but just a few photos down on the railroad um just a picture of a weed mat where we had I mean there’s there was just thousands of mayflies on this weed and I mean they weren’t even all the same kind they were different
Kinds different stages so when you’re fishing for them you literally sit on the bank and wait for risers and the hatches are quite prolific and once you do see Fish Rising it’s it’s really a game of figuring out which because a lot of them will be hatching
Off at the same time so it’s a it’s a matter of figuring out which they’re going after specific you know type of mayfly and then which life stage they’re keyed in on as well and one fish may be on one where another fish may be on another so
It’s uh pretty frustrating some that’s what we go there for also the weather changes from beautiful to hailing and crazy minutes it’s in a kind of a valley calleda actually and so the storms tended to bounce around and in and also from time to time you’ll see
A grizzly bear crossing the river which is always fun and makes you stay on your toes a bit primarily we have Freestone streams which is what I’m going to be talking about mainly tonight and pying flies for Freestone streams are ones that form from snow melts and tributaries and they
Just kind of add up over distance from that snow melt so it melts up in the mountains goes to a creek creek goes to bigger Creek and it just compounds as it goes because of that we have really large FL uctuations on our water level based on that snow melt if we have
A good snow year we have a lot of runoff if we don’t have a good snow year then it’s not as as much but spring when it’s all melting it’s crazy about August September it’s low and usually pretty warm because we just don’t have any water left here’s an example of a boulder
Field that I I really enjoy fishing in the fall when the water levels have dropped this is a picture of it in June or it in June when it wasn’t even the peak of runoffs so it would still be a little bit more than that
But that’s kind of an example of of the the difference wow what was that I just said [Laughter] wow um and in dangerous you’ll get swept down um this is just a photo I took from the same you know same Vantage Point um the one on the left would have been early September
The one on the right would have been June um so not the not the peak of runoff and not the lowest it gets either so just to show the difference literally when you’re when you’re fishing the different seasons you’re almost fishing an entirely different River and each that amount of water
Boulders move trees move um so it’s always a you know kind of part of it just figuring out when you get out there the first time for the year what’s changed you know where they snow slides is that new rock piles in so is it’s very ever
Changing a lot of the roads that follow the river are quite a ways above the river so we’ve got quite a um draunt to get down to it a lot of the roads are a single Lane with turnout just dirt road generally you can find a spot that’s
More difficult to get down the better the fishing most very B can I interrupt a minute Brit if all you guys mute yourselves the quality of the the the Brit sound will will improve sorry Brett oh you’re fine am I talking loud enough I’m very softspoken so it’s hard sometimes no
Somebody else has got their mic on um so again just kind of an example of some of the the river uh generally a pretty fast current out in the middle uh with boulders all over um soft edges on the sides um and the fish really could be
Anywhere in there they like to hang out on the sides but we very often fish out in that rough stuff which is why a lot of our Gentleman on the left is actually Thomas he owns nature Spirit company Might materials they’re about a hour and a half up River from us so it’s not uncommon with them or meet from time to time just another example the left is kind of one of the bigger Rivers that’s the main Fork of the clear water and so this would be what all of the
Tributaries are run into on the upper left upper right excuse me um is just a small Creek that we like to walk up into uh so much smaller a little bit more intimate and then down below I think that’s during runoff just an example the water
Again as far as bugs go we have quite a few uh mayflies Stone flies and cadis and terrestrials uh we don’t get the real prolific hatches like the uh spring Creeks do they they tend to just get these amazing hatches ours are more kind of sporadic we’ve got like I said
Um minute so like on the upper left we’ve got Drakes stoneflies to the right that’s a golden Stone hatch that is the one hatch that we actually got to witness was lightning out so we couldn’t fish um but all of these Stone flies just started crawling out of the water
All over Camp so we got to sit there and watch them as they have it’s pretty pretty cool to finally witness something like that um probably our main meal for the trout are ctis uh granims on the left just small ctis I I got to a beach
Here in front of camp and I thought it was a bunch of sticks on the on the edge and I walked up and they were all moving and I picked a bunch up and sure as hell they were all cais just little itty bitty granims so we have tons of those and
Then my favorite catus is our October catus which is on the right um they’re quite large as you on my thumbnail my thumb and they they’re cased catus as well so they build their homes out of rocks and sticks in the river uh on the upper right picture of those
We call them Periwinkles is the name we give them their cases and I like to collect them but uh so that’s probably my my favorite aquatic bug we have it’s just they’re really fun to fish in the fall they hatch in the fall we also have smaller Stone flowers
Like squa terrestrials like grasshoppers beetles s the center here is an example of that perrywinkle with the cus remov from it to give you probably the largest one I’ve ever found and I of course um then on lower right we’ve got a golden Stone fly and some salm on the
Top quite a bit of different hatches um but they’re very sporadic like I said so fishing any of those flies kind of when nothing’s hatching specific you’ve got pretty good odds of connecting with something as far as our fish go on the Freestone streams this is a West slope
Cutthroat trout uh this is a pretty typical looking cutthroat trout they’re given their name based on that red red orange cut along the lower jaw that’s where they get the Cutthroat name from uh the fall they start kind of getting their spawning colors on so just a few examples of of
Those beautiful fish and they’re wild they most of our Rivers if you get a 12 to 14 inch fish I’d say that’s average 16 to 18 you’re doing better I’ve been told there’s 20in ones in there I’ve been fishing it since 2012 and I’ve yet to see one I’ve come close
But I’ve never seen one hit the 20 in more we also have Cy uh the top right or top left sorry apparently I’m dyslexic today uh the top left is a coony which is a landlock salmon uh they’re just itty bitty 6 to8 in is on the lower left here we’ve got a
White fish which uh at first glance they look somewhat similar and they coloring to gring but they don’t have the pretty thin they’re not near as fancy but uh a native species to us in the middle here we have just a small throat smol um just
To give you an idea of their coloring when they’re younger uh just beautiful Little Gems even when they’re young and on the right we have a bull trap this is a very small bull trout they get much larger they’re actually a Char not a trout uh they’re just massive Predator
Fish and so they get to be really large other people streamer fish for them and number of times we’ve had them come up and Chase the Cutthroat that we had hooked on our line a lot of our rivers are Catch and Release not all of them I wish all of
Them were but they’re not um but this kind of goes to speaking of The Catch and Release and how it it is effective uh this fish was caught in the about 15 ft apart two years apart uh I didn’t realize it at the time that it was the
Same fish until we got home and I I said gosh I wonder and I got to comparing the spots on it and there’s a couple really unique spots around behind that Fin and sure as two years later we caught the exact same fish about 15 foot apart
Um and this is on a section of river that is not catch and release um we never we tried to get him the year after that but we never did find him again my guess is he probably went home in a frying pan another fishery that we have that
I’m just going to touch on because it’s become one of my most favorite Fisheries it’s actually not in Idaho it’s in Washington in about 4 hours the other direction it’s called omac Lake it’s on the kville Indian reservation and it’s an alkal lake so it is saltwater uh
There’s inlets coming in but there are no Outlets so the minerals just add up and it is stocked with lonton Cutthroat which is a strain of cutthroat from Pyramid Lake in Nevada in Pyramid Lake they get to be upwards of 20 lbs which is a massive cutthoat in omac if
You catch a 5 to 8 PB one you’re doing good uh but a 5 to eight pound Cutthroat any day yes please uh it’s it fishes well early in the spring so it’s kind of become our our first outing for the spring season here’s just a few examples of
Some of the fish that we’ve caught there um you know just depending depending on if it’s a female or male the coloring it just they’re just amazing fish and they just Cruise the the um edges and so you can just sight fish to them stripping streamers or nymphs who also strip coron
Amids to them and it’s just pretty fun fishery so the first fly I tie tonight will be one that we use there primarily so the Flies I’ll be tying tonight are um couple dry flies couple nymphs and if we have time I might tie a steel head
Fly we’ll start with the beer can blue which is the one that we use at omac funny name I get it um it’s just a carry special imitation or variation sorry and we named it beer cam blue just because the name of the beach we fish it
At is beer can Beach so there’s that uh next we’ll try the butthead tractor which uh also kind of funny name it’s called the butt head just because it’s got a hot spot for the back end and the front May you’re tying a Tom Thumb and then was beug
Hmer then we’ll be moving on to some nymphs which will be the bird of prey NY wet flies bird of prey a shaky Bey a Zog and then we’ll also be doing a quick lease film credit tonight so I think that’s about it so hopefully that just kind of gives you an
Idea of the rivers that we fish and what we’re fishing for again a lot of the rivers are very fast even once the water levels have come down Cutthroat are very eager to to take a dry fly which is amazing um you can go subsurface for
Them but generally you don’t have to uh so we fish a lot of big bushy dry flies so that they uh float well in the Rapids so with that oh my gosh my husband’s on here goodness I just noticed that is he supposed to be working is to be
Working it’s sluffing off on County time how much it cost you to fish there getting paid really well to Slough off what was that how much does it cost you to fish um so I don’t know how this works over there but in the states each state has their own state fishing
License um so in Idaho for a resident license um if you’re not getting a steel head or salmon permit I want to say it’s maybe $30 somewhere in there not not terrible if you’re out of state so if you live in one of the other states or countries um it is considerably
More uh it doesn’t slow anybody down um I want to say maybe it’s 80 or $90 for a yearly license if you can buy for the week Brit still I know when I used to fish the fish the fork I just buy the week you know just buy the week of
And week Ty I want to say they have a three day a single day a three day or a seven day because I don’t ever buy them I’m more familiar with the out of state name cost the cost comparisons are exponential here versus Gates yeah access to the water so the nice thing
About here is is most of the Freestone streams at least that we fish are all public land for the most part A lot of those pictures that I showed today in the video were from the northw of the Clear Water don’t tell anybody that um but literally you’ve got probably between that Kelly
Creek and the tributaries you’ve probably got about 80 miles of Public Access so even though we we’re seeing more and more people up there there’s still plenty of river for everybody um but it never fails they’re always in the hole I want to fish um but
That is one nice thing about Idaho is we have a ton of public land uh that were’re allowed to fish um are there any questions on any of that if not I’ll just jump into time so when you’re fishing omac lake um are you fishing from a float tube or you
Fishing from the bank well on omac we’ve only fished from the bank people do take boats out and Float tubes the problem is is it’s really windy generally so the first year we fished it we took them and it was so windy we didn’t even bother the second
Year we didn’t take them and there was hardly any wind that weekend um of course there really there not a ton of shore access so there’s two beaches one on each end that is open to non-tribal members to fish so it’s it’s a pretty not known fishery but
It seems like there’s more people finding out about it because of the internet of course so I think there’s more people than there maybe used to be but I think if you had a small boat or a wind a non- windy day to where you could maybe hit some other
Shoreline I think that would be and you’re fishing with a sinking line or a floating line just been using poly leaders to get down a little way is just 5 foot poly leers literally you’re maybe 5 foot out in the water if that and there’s pretty shallow and then
It just drops down and so you’re just fishing over that ledge for the most part and you just cast out over it strip it in and I mean you can watch these PODS of fish come through and so as you see one coming you can like to them but
It’s a really neat FY and not a lot you have to get a cool bu tribal permit it access pass so my guess is that it’s not very expensive but my guess is that prohibit it’s a lot of people from you know they just don’t
Want to bother with it but it’s a pretty cool fishery um it’s I call our mini Pyramid Lake right uh any other questions before I move on to the tying section I just want to ask you one about the the the vice I believe you use a norvis vice is that
Correct Y what do you like best about the norvis viice um so first and foremost the holding power of it um it drives me nuts when a hook slips the whole point of a vice is to hold the hook if it slips that doesn’t work for
Me um there’s a lot of good vices though that that do hold hooks um let me switch into this real quick I knew someone ask um so right now I’ve just got the standard Jaws in so I’m just going to put this is a one salmon
Hook steel head salmon hook so I’m just put that in De it’s not going anywh pretty that’s that’s one of the reasons I I just don’t like when hooks slip um so the hook holding power is amazing um this may be able leave a lot more does it in any other
Vice a bit it might be a little blurry um so it also so it’s an inline rotary it’s a true inline rotary when you put a hook in here the center axis is right along the top of that shank and when you put a hook in there
With the shank coming right off the top it’s going to spin in in line so that gives us a little ways uh different ways to apply materials that lets us apply materials a little bit more uh with a uniform tension as we put materials on things like that um it’s also versatile
In that we’ve got different jaw uh configurations this is just the standard inline um for my salmon flies I use the bigger ones we’ve also come out with a a shank jaw which just comes out the center and the shank comes out right from the end for like game
Changers Intruder Styles wise and you got the small ones with you Bret there the small ones just the the small Point Jaws um and literally switching the Jaws out is a matter of just loosening this tension this note right here what it’s called you just loosen that Allen key they pop right out
So it’s very quick to change if you need to so I do like the versatility it’s made in the US which of course I like because I live in the US um the customer service Tim and his team providers amazing knif and it’s Sly the inventor died didn’t he about 18 months
Ago uh Norm did pass away in y I think it was 2000 it’s been four or five years now that my God my phone to be sure can I inter Brett yeah the one thing I would say using a norice which gets me is that is the the actual
Bobbins because devic is a system with the bobbins and the way the bobbins work when you get used to a bobbin you won’t go to anything else you’re steing my thunder sorry I’ll shut up again you’re fine stand corner I’ll just switch over to the camera real quick um
So like Pete said the bobbins it’s kind of a system um and the bobbins can be used with a nor viice or without but so anytime you are tying on a rotary Vice um let me put a hook in real quick that’ll be helpful um generally uh if you’re tying on a rotary
Lice and actually using it as such which most people don’t do uh anytime you go over to your bobbin rest you’re getting extra thread out and coming back so you’re constantly doing this hand over you know winding it back up reeling it back in if I’m reeling
Something in I want it to be a fish I don’t want it to be thread so the bobin actually has a clutch in the center here and so it just brings it back back in for you you don’t have to do this winding it up all the time so uh what
Kind is that again Brett norvice Auto bobbin Auto bobbin okay but but you can use that bobbin with any Vice as well right yeah yeah you could use it with any device um like if really tell people I would give up my vice before I gave up my
Bobin there it is have to load the spool on the the Bob but I would give up the the vice before I gave up the Bob it’s a little bit of a learn once you get past that you um say you break your thread because of that clutch being in there
It’ll just swoop it back through so a little bit of a learning curve but you learn real quick to just kind of clamp down on it and do you have to load the bobbing with red though you do you do yep um so is there a trick to that or is it a
Bind yeah and then there’s an arbor yeah it goes in a drill so oh right it’s so easy it’s pretty very easy and I mean unless you are tying although we got our Seer fly shipment in the other day and a ton of new thread it
Took me a long time to get it all spooled up but for your average buying you might have to do it you know once every little bit yeah yeah it takes two minutes if that so it’s you know it’s really not that big of a thing the
Bobbins worry people the way I tell them to start off with is to buy white thread and a load of permanent markers and then you start tying with that you can put the marker on if you need something extra color and once you get used to the voice you don’t need to
Change I got hundreds here you just you know use them as you do but it the system and it is a system as Brit said once you get used to it you won’t go back to anything else I’ve got a law Vice sat in the cup never used it I’ve learned real quick
Like some people see the light some don’t and that’s fine I mean there’s so many good viices on the market um just so many good ones that you know it’s nice we all have our options to use sorry brick and what works for us no you’re fine um
Yeah and also it’s what I learned on for the most part so about a year into tying uh I was what Norm at a show and when I got my first I you fell for his smooth talking ever and I I wouldn’t trade it for
The and it’s just to on isy still good some of the uh some of the techniques that allow us to apply materials a little bit differently there I’ll show you the as we T TI the SP the company still going Brit yeah oh yes yeah Norm so Norm passed away gosh I
Think it was 2018 about seven year ago is it was it that long yeah a chat called Tim O’Brien took it over he made all the vies for Norman he was the one in the the engineer behind it in the workshops so it had can continuity all the way
Through I thought I had it as a note in here but oh he passed away May 13th of 2018 so he was the the Creator he was an engineer and he he is the designer of it all Tim O’Neal was the guy manufacturing uh Machining the parts for
It for years before Norm passed away and about a week before Norm passed they uh did the deal and Tim bought the company from him and so now runs the company and also machines all the parts for it so he’s got a very tight quality control ability on it
Since his shop is the one that actually machines all of it as well see yeah so as we go through the Flies I’ll kind of show some of the different techniques with it that is why I why I like it but and it’s something you could pass
To the next one right it’s great for making dubbing as well isn’t it yes you can make dubbing brushes with it I’ll show you my favorite peacock Pearl with it I love peacock Pearl our fish love peacock pearls so I’ll show you kind of how we do that
With it um you it just gives us some different ways of applying materials or uh making different materials work in different ways um than a than a standard Vice there’s really nothing quite like it out there there’s rotary VI but there’s no any that really Spin and that that
Spinning gives us some more options um okay any more questions and we’ll get into the one thing I’ll add to what Brit said and she said everything pretty near bang on is that if you got a real difficult Hackle and it’s not rolling with the rotary viice like the nor viice you can
Lay that Hackle to get over that problem so easy which you got a job to do with a normal viice thanks for that explanation Brett and if anybody has like more in-depth questions let me know and I can always do a zoom with you if you but more specifics I don’t necessarily want
To turn this into advertisement so speak but um but that that’s kind of just some of the basics as to why I like it um and my husband also now Ties on one he tied on another one for a long time um he’s kind of didn’t want to convert over but uh he
Had rotator cuff surgery and so it was very hard to do this for a very long time um and so once once he had surgery he switched to the norvice and by using the Turning feat of it or spinning feature you’re turning the hook shank as
Opposed to this and so it really be able to try after that surgery so yeah we we work with Wounded vets and sometimes they need a one-hand advice so that’s very helpful you know right let’s camera and um just quick note I just got my
Hand out of a cast last Thursday and it is much siffer than I thought it would be so bear with me and as Brian would tell you I haven’t exactly tied trout flies in a long time I’ve been focused and down the rabbit hole of full dress classic salmon
FES and uh he he would more than tell you that I I haven’t been pulling my weight as far as filling our trout boxes lately just slightly out to focus red so this is a newer camera there we go manual focus so depending I might have to
Switch it up depending on the Fly it’s very like specific this first fly we’re going to tie is that beer can blue the name of it is literally just the beach name we didn’t know what to call it so that’s what we called it beer P Beach on omac
So it’s just a carry special variation the carry special is a British Columbia Lake pattern it was designed by a British army colonel uh with the last name of Carrie it’s questionable on on what his first name was it’s Up For Debate but some say it was Tom
Originally it was tied with groundhog tail hairs for the tail and body probably because that’s what happened to be available and then just black thread as a rib and saddle hackles from a ring neck at one point it was known as the Monkeyface Louise and I have no idea why
Nobody seems to know why but I feel like there’s a story behind that uh over the years people have done all sorts of variations uh using wool Chenal that sort of thing uh I’m going to be using aex just the Classic streamer on a size eight uh
Most of these flies I’m tying tonight can be tied bigger smaller uh different colors they’re all pretty versatile so very first off I’m going to weight this one I’m using just an 015 lead free wire I tie them both weighted and not weighted and then you’ll see depending
On which it is I’ll change my thread color so I’m just putting the wire through the eye of the hook I put my tension not loosened I’m just going to wind that that break that off and then back I just break off with my thumbnail and I want it to be in the
Center uh I wanted to have it more of a jigging sort of fashion I could have it up towards the front of the hook but we just want it pal Center as best we can For Thread I’m just using a Sly classic wax and
Red and it’s a do you could use as big as this is you probably get away with six so oops just going to attach the thread and then again I’ve got my tension not loose so we can just kind of slid forward a bit there we go
So I can just dress that hook shank make a few dams going to right in front and behind that wire so it doesn’t go anywhere and I’m just going to take my thread all the way to the rear for the table we’re just going to be using
Fibers from a peacock breast feather you can get these in little packages of like 10 feathers to a package or or if you’re lucky you can find a whole breast if anybody you know has any ends on those let me know CU I’d love to get another
One so I’m just going to pinch off some of these fibers and then toy I like to lift them up and wrap below them it just KS them up a little bit no reason at all other than it looks a little bit sexier learn that from Dave
So TI it in and know how many you put there is completely your preference same as length to be honest I’m pretty sure the fish at omac don’t care they’re just hungry next up we’re going to be using so some simp straggle string in black and just some strong peacock curl this
Is going to be the body of The Fly I’m going to tie in that straggle string hair clips are an amazing thing they’re great for just holding materials out of your way then I’m just going to take a clump of peacock curl so we all know peacock
Curl is inherently fragile none of it’s great uh so I’m just going to rip those tips off so we’ll know the different ways to kind of um reinforce that so to speak a lot of times we’ll add a rib or we’ll wrap it around our thread in hopes that you know fish’s tooth
Won’t completely decimate it so I’ve tied that in right on top of that stle string going to go ahead and throw a half itch in anybody that ties on a rotary Vice uh if you’re going over to your thread post or bobin holder rest you should be putting a half itch in
Every time it keeps from add as you spin the boxs and also if you’re to break your thread it won’t go uh beyond that so it’s think of it kind of as an auto save feature next I’m going to take my bul in and I’m going to bring it over to
Myad so got it over on the thread post I’m going to take that peacock curl and that straggler string all together going to lay it on top of that thread my tension nut is wide open I’m just going to spin that up so we’re just spinning it into a Chenille
Rope take our bin off the thread post we’ve now made a knal rope out of that even if one of those breaks like it looks like one of them did it’s not going anywhere fish’s tooth catches that it’s not going anywhere and we’ll just take that run it right the
Body so now by doing that I got the peock curl which the fish low then I’ve also got that uh straggle string in there tile to give it that bit of UV to and see like one one of them broke just PL that out a bit
And then for the Hackle again we’re just using peacock bre feather I love peacock if you haven’t noticed so for that I’m just going to grab the tips of it and kind of pring those back I’m going to cut just a little triangle point for it
Wax my thread a bit which just helps it grab on a bit again if anybody has questions about anything flies or fishing just holler out one for talking I’m going to spin my thread counter cloak wise just so it goes backwards and grabs one to that
Feather a little bit I do love how fast that Vice lets you um make things yeah you know speed is kind of just a byproduct of it I mean a lot of it just as like oh you know I don’t tie commercially I don’t need that and and I
Get because they’re just thinking of the speed Factor um yeah I so slowly it’s not even funny if I wanted to I could probably tie faster especially device but I just tie slowly I’m not in a rush why would I bother you know I don’t care
If I’m tying fast or or not but it does it does just a byproduct of it speed things up so especially Atlas which is a rotary but it doesn’t tie anything as fast as what you were doing and it just yours really seems to make it easier to do a
Lot of things it does um if you use it like it’s intended a lot of people don’t but um you know that’s the nice thing too though is you can use it as much or as little as you want now is there anything that’s making it curl back so nicely
There and the way that you’re doing this so that I just pulled it backwards okay so I just that’s pretty I I like these to be probably over hackled compared to most wet flies um just my preference uh and then that stem I also these stems are so brittle on these I
Like to just kind of pull that stem back and wrap over it as well realizing I’m just so I know that’s locked in well because this is a weighted one I’m using Red Thread if it was an unwed one I would be using black thread and that’s just so I know really quickly
Looking in my box what it is I don’t have to be like oh you know try to figure out if weight on it I put drop ahead cement on everything um we skip that tonight just for time’s sake um I will say I’ve been using this
New solar laac out of Canada so similar from my understanding to cier um I’ve been really enjoying just go about tonight for time’s sake next any questions on that one with the solar lack you do that with the UV light it’s just like head it’s just a
Head okay like if I’m tying out shows I’ll use the the UV just for it’s quick but um I don’t like doing it when videos because it tends to Blind everybody but no the solar lack it’s just just a head cement yeah it’s just a head cement but
You get a ton of it compared to other stuff and if you didn’t have a rotary viice if you’re trying to secure that peacock would you kind of wind it around yeah so so if you if you didn’t have a rotary Vice look can this that’s
Okay I don’t want to to strip the flow here because I’ve done it but that’s how I typically do it yeah you could do the same thing you would just you know tie in your peock curl and then your your thread would be hanging down and you
Just take that peacock hurl and just kind of wrap it around the thread that would that would do pretty much the same thing I don’t think you’re going to get as tight of uh you know a shim of rope but it would still help reinforce
It and then a lot of times people just use it counter rib and that help for a little bit too it was just re recently TI a bunch of Mickey fins for a competition and having something where you can turn it makes it so much easier to get it even
Pacing be space spacing between the lines correct um yeah I I really like the the ability to so you can free spin it like that with the tension n wide open um it also indexes every put the b in might be a little bit easier to see right this is another huge
Salmon hook um but you can index it every 90 degrees which is nice just like say you’re putting eyeballs on a streamer you can index it you know to the side so you know you’re getting it right where they need to go and then if you tighten that tension nut up on the
Top of the vice it spins you it doesn’t free Spin so I most of the time that’s how I have mine and that allows me to just have more control to be able to look at the back side of the hood although I usually don’t and then
One side looks terrible but so it just lets you do that a little bit easier so is going to be we fish a lot stimulators out here this is kind of stimulator esque it’s called the butt head it was designed by cheich of f fish food out of Utah and named for
The hot spot at the head and the butt uh it could pass as a large cais a smaller Stone fly pretty much just an attractor pattern that floats really well for fishing that fast water pocket water that sort of thing what size hook Brit let me get
There I’m going to grab my bag materials for this one I I was tried to prepare and put all the different materials in these little bags see help on this one I’m going to be using a size 10 which is pretty large um like I said these pretty much everything I’m tying
Tonight you can tie smaller if you want to I try not to tie too small when I’m doing videos it’s just harder for people to see um but I regularly fish this in a size 10 so I’m just using an ax it’s a sge dry barbless in size
10 it’s got a little bit of a curve to it switch threads in real quick so for this we’ll just be using fluorescent green and that’s just classic waxed um ad r but we’ll start by just attaching our thread I usually start at least you know
My length behind just as a way to make sure I don’t go in of that a question on your um on your bobin Brit um does do you does that work pretty good for all different types of weight lines or do you have to use different ones depending on the weight
So so it works for all of them the main thing let me find one that I can show you so maybe this will show up so if you can see it on that one maybe the white one so I don’t know if you can see it in
That video but there’s actually a few Loops of thread around the leg of the bobin and so that provide so there’s the bulin there’s the leg the tip and so to add the the adequate amount of tension you put a wrap around the leg smaller threads you might have to do a
Normally I do two but I tie mostly a DOT or things like that uh bigger threads you might only need one or some really big threads you won’t need any at all um and so that just helps provide the appropriate amount of tension for that clutch to
Work but yeah I mean it’s just there’s only one type of it they do come in thank you colors but they’re all the same and they work with GSP uh like Nano Sil all that it’s a ceramic tube so you don’t have to worry about the thread scouching into it at
All so okay so we’re going to do the tail next so going to dress my hook shank so normally you’re doing this over over over Lord help you if you’re doing a 10x long hook or something the norice we can just spin the hook and do that for the tail we’re just using
Mousse body hair I just cut a bit off I’m going to clean that out and then stack it you’re going to air on the side of too little or too much I’d rather have a little bit too much this is going to support help support the back end of The
Fly just try that right in not a terribly long tail it right on the top of the shank of the hook and then I’m going to pull all that back up maybe if I can advance my thread to about about the two3 pointy stuff out of it or hit the hot
Point and then pull that back down and we’re going to just incorporate that into our body it just means it’s going to be that much less dubbing that we have to to put in there later also help some not so much with moose but if if you’re were doing a
Pattern like with de hair where it’s Hol that would help with flotation as well so I just cover those butts out the very back of this remember we’ve got a hot spot so I’m going to make a very pronounced green area here after that we’re going to throw
Half hitch in so next we’re going to dub the body which for dubbing I’ve got just ice dub in pheasant tail for whatever reason our Cut Throat absolutely love this color on a standard Vice you would just uh you could just you know dub it you’d be twisting it onto your thread like
That uh the norvice gives us some other options for doing dubbing so I’ve just make sure got so just a ball of dubbing here TR to turn the camera a little so you can see so I just kind of feathered it out so it’s loose you don’t want in a big
Bowl and put it up my tension knot is wide open and with any look this will Co right I’m just going to dub it right onto the thread using the spinning feature of the Val so like right now it’s pretty bushy there in the middle so I’m just going to pull that
Down and if I pinch the thread it’ll actually tighten that up I don’t mind it being a little bushy so we’ll just go with that as you go you’ll get to know about how much you need like this I’ve got way more than I need on
It way more than I need on it it’s been a while since like I said I’ve tied trap flies because I’ve been playing classic salmon flies so Brian is probably laughing right now when I told him I was T C flies he’s like what do you mean you don’t even buy those
Anymore um so there we go so we’ve got the body again I if you wanted to cut some of that out you could but I our fish really like bushy things so we just leave it out that for the underwing just be using some CDC this is light
Done some looks like it was from Eric and West Yellowstone just happen to be able to head laying around unfortunately his shop isn’t open anymore they still guide but they don’t got two feathers hard to see them since they’re light done I’m just going to line those tips up the best I
Can we’re just going to tie those in I like to have them going about halfway back on the tail so I tie those down and then rather than just trimming these ends off we’re going to just pull them back so that way we have a little bit more CDC CDC is expensive
And the r the better so with that we’ll just trim them that way and that gives us just a little bit more CDC if the stems are thin enough it doesn’t it’ll be under the deer hair wings so it doesn’t really cause the fly to go off kilter or
Anything when you cast in it next up we’ll be using just some nature Spirit stimulator de your hair this is natural color which I I generally prefer a lighter color I usually fish these in the really rough stuff so I want to be able to see my fly
Um sometimes I’ll even use bleached hair just because it’s uh so much easier to see I’ve trimmed a clump of it we’re going to just clean that out and stack it aough people around here don’t even bother stacking it it’s tidier looking but the fish aren’t really going to care and actually
If it’s not all even it’s probably more natural just because not you there’s not necessarily a definite edge with what they see so I put that in my stacker going to just take a quick measurement on that that’s about 20 times those I like to trim the the ends off a
Bit of an angle it’ll just help go into our front portion of the fly so going tie those in so like I said this is a really similar kind of shape profile to a stimulator just a little bit different materials so you want that to spread out quite a bit nothing too
Crazy as I say that it goes crazy um when we add our dobing and our Hackle we can help kind of hold those in a little bit more too so I’m too worried about that right now for Hackle I’m just using a Whiting Grizzly um this is a 100 pack so
Super simple to know what size you’re using sometimes it’s worth checking but usually they’re fairly spot on so I’m just going to prepare that by tearing off just a little bit at the bottom tie that on the near side of the hook and then we’ll just add a little bit
More dubbing just to go underneath all of that for this since we’re just doing so little I’m just going to put it on normally like I said that you know some people use the viice for a load of things some people use it for only certain things so it’s always just up to
The tires preference and what they’re doing I’m just going to go ahead and see I’m going to go back just a little bit on that deer hair just to hold it back a little and then it also helps kind of bridge that gap on the bottom
Side leave plenty of room in the front that front is going to be our hot spot so we’re going to have a pretty pronounced head on there going to go in and throw half it in take our thread over to our thread post I like to for the first wrap do it by
Hand just to make sure my Hackle isn’t going to misbehave and twist on me so I do one full wrap hopefully it doesn’t pull the dear ha there oh my there so then we’ll just pull them to that all the way up to the front so by using the vice to turn the
Hook as opposed to going over top of it with that material it allows you to keep a a more consistent tension on it which is going to lead to more durable flies also got this handy little nerice Hackle patented norvice Hackle guard so it’s literally just the C part of the bul
In so it just pulls everything out of the way and again I’m putting a very pronounced head on this because we’re using it as a hot spot and then I kind of dog legged at that so that it for sure wouldn’t pull and you can see like I little bit
Since I’ve tied some of these um some of my dear hair did migrate over when I made my thread wraps so as Al says the good lord gave you a scissors so if you have any little pieces out of the way you can snip them out if you’d like not
Big deal I guarantee you the fish probably won’t care but just so it looks a little bit tidier so that is a butthead attractor pattern again it’s a fly fish food pattern out of Utah and the Cutthroat here just go crazy for it I’ve also tied it in red
And purple like red and purple thread but they they like it quite a bit Ah is there any questions on that one all right so we’ll go on to the next one the next one is a very simple pattern veryy simple but super effective so this I’ll be using it’s a dry long
Barbless on Ax FW 571 this will be the fly that we’re tying it’s called a Tom Thumb again Uber basic there’s two materials there’s thread and there’s hair that’s it uh but it is caught fish for us all over all the way down to those spring Creeks with PhD
Fish I thought it was a Canadian pattern which upon research it actually traces its Origins to England back in the 1940s but it was popularized in western Canada which is what I where I thought it was from what size Hook was it again please
Brit I’m using a size 14 14 but um again this is one that I I know people that fishing all up to size 10 so just you know depending on the size of sges you have I know some of them up in Canada are huge
So cater it to what SI sedges that you have you can also cater the colors and like that and it was originally intended as a catus imitation uh the it mimics the emergence profile the hatching sedges where they prop their wings up to dry uh people
Have also been known to fish it on a full sink line and it’s one of those patterns the more ragged it gets the better it fishes which is good because being hair it gets pretty ragged quite quick so we’ll just be using black classic wax thread again I’m just going to STP my
Thread oh I can find where to put my scissors and dress that hook shank just like we would anything for pretty much everything else on the Fly I’m just using some cow elk in natural color from nature Spirit you could use any color that you wanted but I like to use the lighter
Colors it’s just easier for me to see them more so the first part is we’ll tie in the tail we going to take a clump again this is going to help support your fly so I would always you know I’d rather have a little bit more than not enough
Especially knowing that we’ll be fishing this through pretty rough water so I’m going to just clean that out clean all the fuzzies out of it as far as size goes you’re really only limited by the length of hair that you have so I know some people tie them up
To size 10 which I don’t know that we have any hair long enough to do that to be honest pretty pretty long hair but you want your tail to be about the length of the shank of the hook just going to go in that in right at the
Back you want it to flare some doesn’t have to be a lot but try to keep it on top about hook shank and then we’re going to do just like we did with that Mose body hair we’re going to pull it up Advance our thread get it we’ll just incorporate that into the
Bodyy of the fly turn those buttons off to wrap the buttons down but don’t wrap them down really hard because that’s going to provide flotation for it if you mash it down then you know it’s squishing out all those air pockets so you can put some wraps over it but don’t
Go crazy with them Y and then next we’re going to do the part that is the shell back and the wing so I found that if you take because we’re going to tie the wing in behind and then pull it over top so if you take
It’s just a straw that I’ve cut up if you take that and just put it over that hail area once you tie the other in and you go to pull it forward you won’t be pulling forward all of your tail fibers so again we’re just using that same material just the cow
Elk and just clean out all that fuzz from it any broken pieces short pieces that sort of thing hair stacker I do have to say I’m amazed that the cat hasn’t come out here yet and photob bombed everybody she’s watching up and I figured she would she would
Most assuredly be up in my business today Brian must have had a talk with her before he left work those all stacked and cleaned now the key to this is is gauging the length because we’re going to pull them forward and then up so generally the length you’re going
To want it to be at least a half a shank longer than your tail because we’ll tie it in all the way to the back pump it over and then tie it to where those tips are up in the air take measurement try to guess as
Best you can sometimes you get it right on sometimes you don’t it’s just how it is go ahead and tie those butt ends make sure you leave room in the front here because that’s where we’re going to tie them in at once we pull it over
To so again oh and look my little STW moved get just put the stroll back if you move it on accident so again do wraps but not tight wraps over this body section until you get to the rear here then you can tighten them up a lot of
People will use peacock hurl or dubbing there over that Center section you certainly can it’s not necessary the fish eat it just fine without it but you can I’m not going to today so now we’re going to just pull that up see how that straw kept those down so we didn’t grab
Them up in all of our hair guess would help if I bring the thread back to the front Advance your thread to the front of the hook shank bring that over and then we’re just going to take some wraps down I like to hump it a little bit the
Gentleman that showed that’s this pattern Bill Jollymore love fishingman you had thousands of them I think um fle Lakes up in BC so we like to hump it a little bit so it does kind of look like a humpy even to some degree once you got those tied down pull them
Back bring your thread in front of that clump of hair and we’re just going to build a thread Dam here in front of it just to help hold those wings up you got any stray hairs like ways you can use your scissors to remove them it happened
Happens more than we’d all like to admit but it does so I’m just going to try to pull those back and then we’ll just put a two turn WID finish on it and good so super simple fly boring ugly but it catches so many fish we even Brian caught his biggest fish ever
On um one of our spring Creeks on this slide and I think it’s just cuz they haven’t seen it before so again that’s the Tom Thumb just an imitation catus pattern we got any any questions on that one perfect okay we will move on next up will be tyeing this is by far
My favorite trout fly for our Rivers it’s called a beug Palmer just a second while I get my materials out what did you say it’s cold again please Brett a beetle bug hmer so it’s a it’s a Dave Hughes pattern which I know we all know him for
His wet fly book and wet flies and things but he hases a lot of other things too and so this is is one of his patterns forget which of his books it’s in I’d have to go look um there’s there’s a fly called just the beetle
What is it the beetle bug and then this is a variation of that with the Beetle Bug Palmer inspect of it and you’ll see why it’s going to be very heavily hackled and when we’re fishing and there’s just nothing really going on this is usually my go-to fly
Just kind of an attractor seeking fly to see if I can find something there go the upright wings like a wolf but I do think they think like it as an October Prest since we have so many of those about I think they just at
Some point in the fall just key in on that orange so for the hook be using the ax FW 503 size 12 it’s just a Dry Fly Light barbless yeah any dry fly hook will work I do sometimes just like to tie them on like a little bit longer shank just
Gives me more room for more Hackle are they quite strong Dry Fly ORS so Brett you know I I’m surprised generally I don’t like light Dry Fly hoax they they always feel very tinsy to me um like I just I just not had a lot of confidence in them but I’ve been pleasantly
Surprised with these ones I mean they’re they’re lighter but yet they still feel and and as far as catching fish on them I’ve not had a problem with it so I I’ve been pleased with them I’ve always just shied away from light Dry Fly hooks on other other things just because
Of yeah I’m tying on them and they’re bending in my vice so I just and I’ve lost a few fish on other ones and I just didn’t care for them but the these ones have been been surprisingly well for us you could toy it on any dry fly hook
It just have to be a light one um so I mean they’re they give a little bit in the vice but not like some of them I’ve seen in other varieties so again we’re just using black classic wax thread going to start it behind the about an eye length behind sorry I just
Noticed a chat Steve Cooper says peacock is now sight restricted that is correct it’s been that way for a couple years now um peacock is sites restricted which to me is just crazy because we have peacocks all over Idaho and people raise them so it’s odd to me that it is a
Sight listed bird now but it is so times in other countries I think it might be starting to be more difficult to get them uh for the tail going to just use again moose body hair just natural colored you see a theme with the Tails here like I said these flies I fish
Through a lot of very fast pocket water and Rapids so they’re going to have very stiff tails and generally lots of Hackle to keep them aoat C that off I’m going to just put it in my hair stalker you want to be about the length of the hook shank nothing
Crazy H TIY that in going to do a few softer wraps just to kind of gather that as opposed to flaring it out P those up and just cut those but butt ends off wrap them over so for the wings on this L people use um white Kip tail or calf tail tied
Ight and divided so like a wolf pattern I have been turned onto this which is actually kid goat um people also use white calf body hair for the The Divided ight Wings which which is is pretty short usually this calf or excuse me this kid goat
Hair is a little bit longer it has a little bit more length to it and so I find it a little bit easier to work with and it’s also used been being used quite a bit on like blue charms salmonfly wings that sort of thing but it just
Gives you a little bit more length and the the consistency is real similar to that of calf tail or not calf tail goodness not calf tail it’s not kinky like that um calf body hair so I just cut off a chunk get out any of that
Underfur you can also use for the wings you can use poly yarn anything like that I just I don’t think it would matter as far as fishing it goes I just don’t like the looks of it but it does make it quite a bit easier to tie so I’ve now stacked
That switch hands with it hopefully without messing it up P any outliers out I’m going to advance my thread to about the one point a little bit forward that you want your wings to be the shrink of the h I like to spin my thread counterclockwise or the anticlockwise I
Think is what you’ll say um counterclockwise if you’re State sorry um just so it jumps to the rear and I can kind of just gauge that and make sure it’s the length I want it to be a few securing routes and then just trim those butt ends try
To get them to kind of meld into those moose but ends so you have a nice transition and you don’t have a gap there between the two of them Advance your thread back up and we’re going to Go going to go right in front of These Wings make a bit of a thread down and then as far as splitting the wings go this is one thing where I really enjoy the norvice um I tighten my tension n up so it’s not a free Spin I
Can actually turn the fly towards me and kind of eyeball that split of the wings um I’ll turn it towards you so you can kind of see that that Viewpoint with that tension nut down it doesn’t freeze spin so i’ got a lot of control
Over it and so with them you can you know then kind of do the eyeball thing and figure out where you want that split to be for the two separated Wings going to cool that good enough uh worst case is if you find that later on you you’ve got too much in one
And not the other you can use your scissors to rectify that so I’m just doing some figure eight wraps to separate those so I’m separated now and now I’m just going to post them do that I’m just going to take one again this is where it’s nice to be able
To tip that fly towards you a little bit it just gives you a little bit more control as you’re posting your wings or tip it away from you depending on what side you’re working on I’m going to struggle put them posted they look pretty even um if they’re not even use
Your scissors you can putut out a few here or there we’ve got a stray one that didn’t get just cut that out at this point I’ll usually I’m going to use some head cement here I like to apply just a dab of head cement in the middle of the
Wings just to kind of keep them where they’re at you can also use UV resin for that if you want certainly interchangeable be careful of that solar app the fumes are pretty it’s pretty potent make sure you’re in a well ventilated area for that so we’re going to just take our
Thread back to the rear of the Floy for the back Hackle we’re going to use a size 14 just a brown Hackle the back Hackle should be one size smaller than the the fly you’re tying and the front Hackle will be the appropriate size so I just a brown Hackle
Here if you have hackles that are more of the Christmas tree shape you could just use one and tie it in from the tips so that it gets bigger as it goes forward but so many of the genetic hackles nowadays are just you know pretty well one siiz fit the all you
Know one size the whole length or close um so we use two separate hackles for it but so I’m going to strip that Hackle I’m going to strip a little bit further off of that side so that way the first few wraps we have are nice and
Clean we that back with our hair clip now for dubbing just using some it’s h Sparkle dub and I’m just using the red color so I’m just going to pull a bit of that out by the time you add the dubbing the red dubbing and the brown Hackle it often looks pretty
Orange so with this um you could do it the the norvice way where you spin it onto it um it does get a little comp complex with the wings right there so I’m just going to dub it on typically as you would anything else I put my tension nut all the way
Down and this Hackle is really long so I’m going to use another hair clip to hold it out of the way I’ll just move it in and out to get behind that hook point and then just take it if you want you can tighten it as you
Go and take it just right up behind the wings don’t want it to be too crazy of a body can build a little taper in if you if you’d like there’s going to be so much Hackle on it though honestly I don’t know that the taper matters much
Going to throw a half hch in there just again right behind those wings take my thread over to my thread post so my Hackle here and then I’m going to take that first wrap by hand just to make sure it doesn’t twist or misbehave in any way and then I’m just
Going to Palmer this Hackle this is where the beetlebug Palmer part comes in the Beetle Bug doesn’t have the stle I’m just going to Palmer that up now when you’re ping your hackles um do you ever have to twist it or or is that really not
Necessary um I I looked out this one didn’t twist around on me um so sometimes they do even though you tie it in like you want it to to wrap sometimes they you know they just don’t don’t always behave I think some of your whites get got pulled back on that last
Wrap um so if that’s the case then you can just kind of manhandle it Around but like on this one I did look out but it didn’t it didn’t twist the wrong way I’ve seen to where if if it’s not uh wrapping the way you intended it to you can take your scissors and kind of pull it you’re almost putting a crease in it
That way to where it’ll correct that if it if it’s a twister I’m surprised this one wasn’t a twister usually you’re tying on a video or something it usually twists all over on you for the front Hackle we’re just going to use the same exact thing only
In a size 12 so size proper to the hook so I like my hackles on these the back one one kind of the cup going forward and then the front going backward so they’re kind of run into each other it matters not really it’s just how I’ve always tied
Them and a lot of these these your you know genetic hackles they’re so straight anyways I mean they barely have any curve to them as it is it would be probably more pronounced if you’re using something other than a a Whiting genetic type Hackle I’m just going to tie this one in
On the near side of the hook try not to trap any fibers in I tied it in front and then behind the wings so there’s you know pretty much no way that that bugger is going to be pulling out we go ahead and just put a half hitch
In bring our thread over to our thread F and then again take this and do that first strap by hand this one cooperated also that’s rare um so it’s got the the cup towards the back just going to take a few wraps behind the wings and then usually the ones in front
Of the Wings because I’m trying to pull them out of the way I will just do it by hand you can use the vice to do it but I do find that I like to pull the wings back a little bit so chap anything down I’m going to go ahead and just tie
Off I I like to dog like that front Hackle so I’m going to pull it back and just tie back over it just that’ll keep it from pulling out just pull everything back nice little head you can if you have the nor ice B in with this little
Cap on it you can just use that to hold everything back out your finish one it and that one for whatever reason this this why seems to work well when nothing else does on our reverse so it’s really my searching pattern that I use most often
Oh I I missed it when you put that thing on there what was that that you put to hold things in place um so it’s just this it’s just um the bobin have a little rubber cap over top of them okay so I just cut the end of it
Off and it just slides over top of it and I just use that as kind of a Hackle um Hackle guard I guess you call it just helps keep everything out of the way when you’re trying to put your whip finish on so I just keep it on the Bob in there and
Then it off over top of everything when I’m ready for it thank you yeah you can use a little rubber band or a piece of straw you know drinking straw just chop bits up okay even like probably like a little o-ring or something like if you found
The right size would probably work just as well well for that float rubbers work well one will’ll go to is more of an pattern it is the quigly um film critic so it’s just an emerging mayfly pattern I’m be using a a turkey B for the the body on
It my threads out real quick yeah I’ve only been tying for about a year now so I really appreciate all this advice it helps a lot like if you’ve ever got any questions I can try to answer the best I can or find someone that can Lord knows I certainly don’t know
Everything and nor will I ever know everything um there we go and what I’m trying to find next is I want to do a Christmas tie I was thinking or a Christmas fly I was thinking about maybe doing a variation of the clauser and call it the Santa
Clauser think you I think you asked about a Christmas fly on my one of my page one of my comments and I haven’t got back to it it’s been a crazy week at work so I been this week to that I have tied a kind of a Christmas fly it was a
Variation of rra A variation of a rusty rra Christmas I’ll post that on that comment for you to see it was this we had a jury trial this week at work and it was absolute Madness if you ever want to tie a Christmas tree go on to YouTube and type
In Barry old Clark Christmas tree and there’s a lovely pattern proper Christmas tree with bubles yeah I think i’ I’ve got that one they put the little they actually use tinsel and they put the uh the be eyes as the yeah for the or ornaments
Yeah so for this one I’m going to switch out to my shank dos not tying on a shank but it’ll just give you an idea I also love the red white and blue one you did too that was awesome thank you thank for this I’m using the shank
Joes they’re in the uh offset Hub though so they won’t spin on Center but the hook shank will because it’s up a little bit higher so it’s going to spin close to Center not perfect but close and this these uh just like the fine point Jaws just allow you to get
Kind of into the the bend of a little bit more so if you’re tying NY or mergers that sort of thing it just gives you a little bit more access than the uh standard in’ll be using say what hook um so it’s just A um it’s a just an ax super dry in size 12 you could tie these much smaller if you wanted um I know Eric was talking about a green Drake emerger so this is kind of my go at that you could probably need to be a little bit larger even though for green
Dr but we’ll go with these that’s only bigger size thanks for tying it Brit appreciate it so we’re going to start our thread uh just about Midway back on that shank not all the way to the front what’s the name again please Brett it’s called a Quigley’s film critic
Okay it’s going to be similar to his Hackle stacker only a little bit different it’s a really really fun pattern to tie and fish so and when you have a hook that’s shape like that is that a different name kind of hook so it it’s I I mean to me this
Looks more like an emerger hook where it kind of bends down this is they call it a super dry but uh like if you were to look up um like a clink hammer it it’s tied more on a hook like this where it kind of
Bends down so the back of the fly is going to be more down in the water as opposed to everything on top of it so more like an emerging pattern more like an emerging fly that’s coming through the film okay cool we do get to use some of Steven’s
Awesome mag P materials turkey bi today I’m excited about and the emergers are they considered wet flies then or dry flies kind of in between in between okay that’s not a technical answer I guess I mean I I would consider them more of a wet fly because they’re in the
Film where in my mind it d fly is more on top but I I don’t know really the technical answer for that or if there is one but um a lot of times though you’ll find fish hitting the emerging ones as opposed to the adults on the surface um also it looks
Like uh if one gets stuck in its Shu um as it’s emerging you know that’s easy target for the fish so if they see one that has that kind kind of Shu behind it back in the bend here um it just they kind of can key in on that as as a bug
That’s in distress and not not gonna get hey Brett I I just wanted to say if if he wants to learn about emergers there’s a very very good podcast on the Orvis life fishing podcast with h Tom rosenbower um just go to podcast on your iPhone and go Oris
It’s I’ll check that out I had thought to check their podast I follow them on YouTube yeah check their podcast have an or store here in Char in Char Charleston as well yeah check out their podcast I just listened to it a couple of days ago myself out of interest and it’s it’s
Very good it’s it’s very well done yep you’re welcome thanks Eric like not often I can add something Brit so happy to I didn’t have a super technical answer for that I just fish him I don’t know all the super fancy stuff no way am I like an amazing Fisher person uh so
For the Shu um I’m going to use dirty bug yarn uh you can use Zeon Anon dubbing yeah pretty much whatever nice thing about this is it is two strand so I’ve untwisted it and just taken one strand of it so that it’s super uh thin actually I’m going back my thread
Off a few wraps so I’m just going to take this material and go under and up saving us a thread rra as I tie this down I’m going to keep it kind of elevated at a 45 degree angle and that just makes sure we’re keeping it on the top of the hook
Shrink we’re going to tie clear pretty well down into the bend of that hook shrink I want to be pretty short so just nice and tidy and then and kind of brush it out I just brush it out with my fingernail that’s just representing the shook for the tail we’re going to be
Using popon uh this is I believe medium speckled I think BR cringed grab this bag of his so got just a medium speckled any speckled fiber work calion just has you know generally some really nice fibers in it that that coloration so just grab a small
Clump yeah three or four have to be a ton and if you want you can if if you’re tying on a hook like this to make it easier to tie the tail in you can invert the hook a little bit like that just gives you again more even more access the back
End just that L to your preference got the yeah not good the body we are using Steven henkins Magpie materials while turkey biots these are amazing I used to hate tying the turkey louts until I got these um they’re so Supple you don’t even have to soak them in water ahead
Of they’re quite large I when I was talking with Steven turns out on like like most anything on this there’s a sweet spot in there where you’re going to find longer ones as opposed to Shorter ones like on the end so that was a a helpful piece of
Information just to know what I was looking for and then yeah just not having to soak them in water makes me so much more likely to use them just because I’m not a patient person so I’m just going to take one of them look at the length on that it’s
Crazy so we going to take one of them little we want to leave that uh Noob on the back there if you cut it off you won’t get the benefit of that Noob and that’ll help us know how to tie it in what direction cut those but ends away well you can take
Some spiral wraps kind of cover that and when you tie this in we want I’m going to reorient my hook so a little bit easier to see when you tie this in you want the notch the notch that’s the notch facing backwards just going to tie that tip
In so by having that Notch facing backwards that’ll allow us to have that nice raised Ridge on it you do it the other way then it’ll be uh smoother now I can’t find my piece of dirty Bugg ear so there it is so a quick question for you on that
Turkey um I’ve never actually tied the turkey so normally you have to soak it to get it subtle or to get it soft if you don’t have that brand that you’re using correct a lot of them you have to um just you can get like a paper towel
And just get it damp and set them in it for a little while before and it just makes they’re pretty brittle so it just makes them a little bit softer so when you’re tying with them they don’t just split got it thank you most I think every other brand I’ve used of turkey
Biots I’ve had to do that with and I just like I said I’m not that patient so I never bother um but with with these ones you don’t have to do that which is which is nice and they’ got some nice length in the die colors are really good so um
Definitely a good brand to get if you’re in the market for them um but it you know any of them will work you just have to put a little bit more elbow grease into the front end of it to soak them so I just that strand of straggle
String or not straggle string goodness uh dirty bug yarn so I’m going to tie that in maybe I’m going to leave it kind of the length of the body and just tie it all the way in I I want to keep somewhat of a consistent underbody for that gooseb
Oh my gosh what am I doing I’m not even doing the right thing scratch that okay we’re taking that off the biot is the body not the dir B YY okay so we’re just going to transfer thread up to the front so this why has a
Lot of stuff going on at the top so we’re going to tie that biot off about right here because this is where this Gap here is where our Hackle is going to go and then we still have to tie the the front Wing type post off at the very front
Gra that I am going to put a half inch in here and we’ll just use the rotary Vice you can put um head cement down if you want on this you don’t have to um you want just for the security we’re just going to take this and just wrap that
Up so that’s our body then when I take my thread off the thread post it’s already in the position just to tie that right all so this employs the Hackle stacker technique I don’t know if anybody’s familiar with that but a a very different way of being Hackle on a fly
Um it works quite well for this emerging type pattern just going to be using just some poly yarn in cream you can use white you can use orange if you wanted you wanted it easier to see um that’s a full strand we’re going to be doubling it over which is going to be
Way too thick so I’m going to just have that so literally just pulled it in half now go just a little bit thinner of the Strand so we’re going to have it if you can see that so we’re going to have it with a loop and then and the two ends in the
Back we’re going to tie these ends right in front of that Flor or that as and then just go ahead and trim that off so we just got a little tough with it there that’s your thread so we’ve still got this Loop kind of hanging out front
Here we’re going to advance our thread and now again we’re still going to have to tie something off in the front of this so be mindful of that don’t wrap it all the way to the eye of the hook like that and then we’re going to pull it
Back so that now your Loop of poly yarn is more to the rear of the fly for the Hackle I’m just going to be using some done Hackle you can use seriously the nice one of this is you can pretty much tie it to match any type of mayly you
Want um both in size and color so the world is really your limit on it so I’ve just prepared the Hackle by kind of pulling every all the fibers back strip that first bit off and then I’m tying it in right on the the near side of the hook
Again now we go our Loop of of poly material our Hackle now we’re going to put some dubbing on that so I’m I’m just using some olive uh it’s just super fine dubbing from sfly I just need ever so little you don’t need very much we’re just going to be covering that section
Right go all the way up to that front edge but not off of it take one wrap behind that post and end with your thread in front of it so your thread will go around and over so by having this Loop here we can just hold it with our middle
Finger and start wrapping this Hackle around that first there’s various ways to do this you’ll see all sorts of different videos on how to do it this is what what I found to be easiest you don’t necessarily write own is easiest now you want that length of Hackle there
To be the same as that body cuz we’re going to be pulling it forward like that so maybe go just another and it’s going to be messy it’s not it’s not intended to be a a beautiful Instagram Hackle or whatever you you know it’s going to look
Messy this is what’s going to support your fly so we’ve got that we going to take our thread and we’re just going to tie that Hackle up the nice thing is with this post you can kind of move it to where you’re tying that Hackle up and not trapping any of those
Fibers once you will tied off my Hackle off so you’ve got a couple options here so we got a thread on the back of the fly you can take and we need to get it to the eye of the fly you can take it and go underneath if you
Want which the fish will see a thread wrap under there the fish isn’t going to care but some tires care um so the other option is to go with that thread wrap over top so that puts you tying the opposite direction now you’d be tying with the thread coming towards
You you can just put a half hitch in there and now you’re back to tying the correct direction yeah up to you a fish isn’t going to care if there’s a thread wrap on the bottom there you could always put a little bit of dubbing on it if you
Wanted and cover it but if your thread is matching nobody’s going to Care uh so we’re going to take that Loop now we’re going to pull it over and we’re just going to PR all of that Hackle back keep it on kind of on your side of
That eye of the hook I’m just going to take two wraps if you spin your thread counterclockwise it’ll help it jump to the rear like that and help you take those wraps going to take my B bin pull it back and then I go that Loop here on my
Finger it’s hard to see I’m just going to pull it down and pull my Bob bin kind of back tightening that Hackle up so we’re actually stacking the Hackle on top of that thorax now do a couple securing wraps and then jump your thread in front
Of that and this is where we were having to make sure we left plenty of room we’re going to build a little thread Dam in front of that there to pop that up in front everything back go ahead and couple turn whip finish head C if you want thread
Out and then you generally want this post to be just a little bit longer longer than your wing just use your scissors to trim it out really easy to see when you’re fishing it this post kind of acts as a cider and then you got that nice uh body
Going into the water uh like an an emerger with a shock so it’s it’s a really effective fly pattern and it’s so versatile being able to tie it in other sizes and in colors you can really find tune it to your specific mayflies on your Rivers what’s it what’s her name again please
Brett Quigley’s film critic you can you spell that for me please H sure um here I’ll type it in the comments if that’s easier oh great guys’s name so um if I can find the comments oh I had bird of prey written down next yes I have a bird of prey uh coming
Up that’s a very nice pattern Brit thank you for adding that if you did with all my request thanks it’s uh I’ll tie some of those for my trip out out west next summer that fly would work great on Oregon’s molus in May if there’s a green Dr catch going
Yeah yeah it would be really good I know I mean I mean we fish for Cutthroat and generally they’re not overly particular but sometimes they get when they’re getting a little tight LIF it does pretty well but um I just love how versatile it is I mean it’s
Just that simple type of pattern and then you can just do whatever you want with it um I’ve seen work well on English rers where it’s a you know just a dub body with a red rib or I mean you can do so much with it um just with that kind of
Base style I guess what do you reckon Derek I reckon that’ll work well on our Rivers it will Pete speak English I’ll let you know it’s say again Brett I’ll let you know in two years if it works over there you coming over you that’s the
Plan uh next up so now we’re kind of transitioning to the wet flies um I’ll just switch switch back to the normal Jaws I just yall just see an examples from the different go probably 90% of the time I use just the inline Jaws for the salmon flies
I’ll switch out to the big ones BR I did have a question about the Jaws on the on the vice I saw that they had like a saltwater Jaws like a really what sizes would that be for like giant saltwater stuff it can be so the the
Standard in line will go up to about I want to say a one one okay I can’t remember sorry I should have looked um I should know that um anything bigger is it’s really best to get the salt water they some call them the saltwater Jaws or just the large
Jaws um okay it’ll be out of focus a little bit um they’re just get away with the small ones up to pretty big hook but because I got the big ones I ually to tie anything over a one one on the big ones so anything over a one I definitely switch
Up to the bigger ones they’re they’re they’re just I mean identical they’re just a lot beefier they also have more length Okay yeah I tie some big streamers and stuff for small mouth and stuff that would probably need the bigger the bigger Jaws having that bigger length or that longer length too
So um yeah and like any of my uh classic salmon flies I use these ones on um the other option A lot of people have been using the the shank Jaws for pretty much everything not just Shanks and so these also have that length a little bit more and these will
Hold up to pretty big hooks as well um if you’re getting into like shark size hooks the bigger ones are definitely going to be where you want to be in so shs work for both the smaller and the larger or no what was that can the shank
One work for both the smaller and the larger rough flies yeah okay oh I need Su say she needs to sign off I hope I just didn’t see that um uh all right have a good Thanksgiving Sue we’ll talk to you later have you giving up your meal for us
Tonight then Brit um no uh Brian’s it’s only 1 in the afternoon here so it’s pretty early uh and Brian works till two so once he gets home we’re going to have our meal which consists of I ordered Chinese yesterday Chinese takeout so we’re warming up Chinese we we just
Don’t do the whole big turkey and everything we don’t have family here or anything so it’s very easy H I thought you were all turkey and mash out there no no I not we’re not big fans of turkey so our now the question with your streamers
On the normal shank or even on the small Jews for the average streamer size you won’t need to go to the real big jws the bigw I’m using on size six and size 80 hooks for Pike and bass if you’re doing a little Pike really big
Bass flies that sort of thing then the bigger ones are nice but yeah I don’t I don’t think I tie much over a four I I tie some I tie some big streamers on fors like jig hooks but or worm hooks sorry but that’s the biggest ey tie
Probably you’d be fine with a shank or the shanks yeah just either the large or the shanks would be fine either way way yeah if you don’t mind Brit I might send you um something for your recommendation afterwards just putting together some things for a Christmas list for my
Wife okay so next up we have is called a beetle but shaky be oh notes um so this is a fly that comes out of West Yellowstone in the yell National Park it’s a wet fly uh they use it to Target Fall Run Browns on the Madison inside
Yellowstone Park it was named as The Story Goes and there’s varying stories it was named after a ranger that loved to fish back in the 40s and his last name was beely uh Story Goes his hands shook so bad when removing the fly he’s so excited about catching a fish that
He’s given the name shaky this is the flow he loved to fish so they call it shaky Bey uh we’ll be tying it on a just a aex 531 size 12 and a it’s just a sedge barbless it is a a dryly hook um you could certainly tie it on a heavier hook
If you wanted using uh classic waxed in Wood Duck color which is one of the newer colors that sfly come out with this year and it is one of our absolute favorite colors Brian may have had some part of suggesting that they make it um so it’s it’s just a really good color
Thread and it matches a lot of things so just one of our favorites just attach our thread let GL it any shank so for kind of the tail Shu we’re using orange Crystal Flash get it oh I just through the the room where did it go oh there it
Is I should was St to get it out and it went fine so I’ve cut about four strands of it off and so we’re actually going to tie it in and then also have it out in front of the hook shank because we’ll be using this in the collar of the fly as
Well so we just tie it in there on the top leave it out front and trim that a little bit just so it’s not in the way as much going to trim this back bit just there you don’t want it terribly long it’s just going to be part of the
Shock for the tail or shock we’re just using some malard dyed wood duck you have wood duck you could use that of course but and for this I’m just going to strip some fibers off that we’ll pull the feather away from the fibers that way they stay
Somewhat aligned and you want this to be a little bit longer ends the rib on this we’re going to just be using some brown uni thread uh it’s three in dark brown uh we’re going to use embroidery thread but apparently upon cleaning out our F tying room couple weeks ago I
Threw it out inadvertently or something I have no idea where it is this is where we get to the dirty bug yarn for the body so we’re using model golden Olive and again I’m going to split these two strands if you just untwist them and that just gives me the ability
To to have a little bit thinner body if you’re tying a bigger fly then use both of them and I’m going to tie this in so that it’s the whole length of the body that way we don’t have any weird gaps or bumps or anything like that my
Example any so we will just advance that and we’re only going to go up to about the one3 back point so we’re going to put a thorax in a little St turtle go ahead and P it in there take our thread over to our thread post I like to tighten that tension nut
Up so I have more control over it I’m just going to use that for the body material tie that off trim out the waist then we’ll take that rib no different half it I like to twist it so it cords it up a little bit I’m just going to
Take four or five wraps just to give it some segmentation the thorax the thorax that go orange off stretch nature Spar and I like to try to find two that are pretty fluffy for this and then I just rip the tips of those off I’m just going to tie them
In right in that thr wax area and then if you want so here’s here’s kind of an example where again you can use the vice I’ll try to do this without getting the uh lash buggered up in it um so I just put half hitch in going to just use my
Finger as the thread post pull these over I like to kind of pull those fibers back and then we’re just going to spin those together so just like the peo curl we’ve done the same thing with the olr curl we just going to make a Fuzzy little
Th if you want you can as you wrap try to especially those last wrap or two try to keep those fibers pulled back so they’re not getting into your collar area for this we’ll just tie it off just like you would a dubbing dubbing Loop these and just push them to the
Rear we’re just going to kind of use those this part of the collar so just push those back and then trim them about midbody oops I missed one just trim that and then for the collar we’re just going to use just the Hungarian pach beautiful H pain from Blue Ribbon
Flies going to go start by just peeling all that fluff out the way and then we’ll be tying it in by the tip so I’m just going toep pair that feather I could do most everything by making a little triangle tie in point relax the thread real
Quick again if you twist your thread counterclockwise anticlockwise it’ll jump back and help you grab that now you could use the rotary aspect to to wrap this Hackle we’re only doing a wrap and a half I’m not going to bother so I just grabbed it with my Hackle
Pliers and pull those feathers back those barbules pull it off because of course I’m going to do that when I’m tying the L this is where I’m still very struggling I’m trying to get the right amount of tension I’m going to back those wraps all and tie back in again
But still struggling after being out of the cast with having the great amount of tension on anything that in hopefully it stays this time and then we’ll just do pull those back and do you know a wrap in a half now the Hackle stem broke pretty sure we’re dealing with Murphy’s Law
Tonight so you don’t want it over hackled so a wrap and a half is is sufficient that out it’s about half wrap too many but it’s okay ahead and just put a nice little head on it clean everything up I’m just do a four five turn with
Finish so that’s a Shak k um like I said we use it for uh lak run brown trout in the Yellowstone National Park they run up out of the lakes and into the park and it’s some amazing fall fishing um where you can swing flies for them
Derek what do we looking at for a time I’ve got more if we want it if not we’re good I’ve got unlimited time so it’s it’s up to yourself sweethart oh I’ve got a couple more if anybody wants to see them or I can jump to a steel head fly or whatever suits
You any input from the gallery I’ve got two other NY I was going to do um they nothing too special um and then the other one was going to be a um for the Royal Treatment I’m happy to watch something like that being tied I must admit the steel heads why
Yeah okay depends on the others I’ll shut up again now me too or for it go for that one yeah go go stand in the corner Pete so that makes sense um I’m just going to switch out to the larger Joe they’re just a little bit easier on the bigger hook
Shanks love try flies but they’re pretty repetitive so you can always tie or another time BR no cuz I’m always working during the middle of the day no I don’t mean now she probably won’t tie for you on Christmas Eve Derek thanksgiving’s probably enough yeah so for hook wise
On have to make it new year instead then the uh low order um I’m using a size two but it’s a steel head fly can tie it whatever whatever size you like bigger normally I pinch the Barb first but I have my pliers with me so um
Generally I pinch the Barb before I tie the fly so that if it breaks when I pinch it I didn’t do all that for nothing get Focus so the first uh little bit we’re going to be using white thread the body is floss and so I want that white thread
Underneath it so the floss um keeps its color uh you can also put tint cylinder that’s another way to do it especially on a dark dark hook like this so I’m going to just start my thread up on that return eye then with this I’m going to be a
Little bit more particular least with my thread flattening out and this is um go 12 thread look I can’t remember yeah it’s 12 white but could use eight this is just what I happen to have so I am going to keep spinning my thread so that it
Flattens out um reason being is we’re going to have a floss body so I want it to have as smooth of an underbody as possible I’m so much this is more for the tire as opposed to the fish fish aren’t going to Care um also when I tie
On bigger hooks I like to put this over the hook point because I have bad habit of gouging my hand with it um it’s just a little silicone earring back so you can get about a million of them for five bucks on Amazon um it just keeps me from bleeding all over
Everything so I could use the vice to do this but I’m trying to be pretty precise thanks for the safety note plus it helps you to stop from uh cutting your accidentally that that that also um both I have this bad habit is I’ll Jam my
Finger into it and then it scares me so I pull it towards me and so I poke it and slash it and it just turns into a show really fast uh for the um tag we’re going to be using some oval French tinsil in small and then some Violet flops
I just realized no misser sorry Brit what is the hook is it a diet um it’s a just an ax low order all right okay 42 yeah I me you could use dichi you could use a blue heron spay hook you know I mean it’s whatever your hook preference
Is this is what we have so what I use now look very similar to the dii salmon they do and um I say the bar the points on them are deadly I put one straight through me thumb that so it’s a very good tip what you’re saying with those
Earrings okay you’re making me laugh I can’t remember what doing okay so I’m going to try to run most of my materials all the way up the body that’s just to keep that that smooth underbody so this will be our tag our tip actually so I’m just taking flat wraps
Back uh typically you you don’t want it to go much past that Barb and there’s there’s C you know some people that think it should be one way versus the other ultimately it’s your fly so do whatever you want with it so I’m going to put three on I’m
Going to take a few wraps off so the main thing with all these flies is just being very uh cognizant of the wraps you’re putting on and not building up extra without need for it I’m going to cut this off and again I’ll just for now
Going to keep it close to where that return eye end for the butt I’m just using Violet flows I do want it to be little bit thinner so I’m going to split this so the force is multiple strands so I just uh use my Bob in to kind of split
That to take this and just Advance our thread and I want it to go about to just the point um which Granite can be hard to see with the little earring back on but you can use you know silk gloves if you want two three four five so I’m taking
Five wraps right now and then I’ll take four off so take this and again you could put a half itch in and use the vice if you want these I tend to just go hand over hand oh my goodness all times you’ll see people wearing gloves with the silks
Um sometimes they do if it’s a a fly to be put in a frame or something I definitely will the fishing fly not so much so I’m going to take four wraps off capture that material and then put a few more back on see a little piece of FL that
Afid uh if you want to you can burnish glass so I’ve just got a burnishing tool here you can also get little eggy ones so just going to burnish the metal a little and that just makes it a little bit shinier and also smooth out any imperfections same thing with that
Floss just helps kind of smooth it out however if you don’t have a smooth under body your floss no amount of burnishing is going to help so that’s pretty important you need to make sure you go smooth under body or it’s still going to turn out like CRA the
Tail I’m just to use that sword I’m going to pull just a few fibers naturual pattern gos for uh peasant Crest dyed teal green which I do not have so I use these instead which I really like how this looks so it’s fine by me just put those in you don’t want to
Be terribly long this pattern does come from the Royal Treatment Fly Shop in Westland Oregon it was created by Joel lafallet back on 1995 on the banks of the dutes river for summer steel head was the the plan again I’m going to just trim that the length of
That you can tell I’m trying to keep all of my materials about the same length so we’ll just incorporate those into the under body for the rib we’re going to use uh just again small gold floss and or small gold tinsil and floss and then for the butt
We’re actually going to use peacock curl some more strong peock curl and not going to use a ton because it’s just the literally um just the butt of the fly so it’s just this little section winding those down we attach that peo curl going to go ahead and throw a half hip
Chin and then again I’m just going to make a little peacock rope out of that LE in that pinch and N course materials up front go in it okay and then we can just go right into making tie it off just like we would a dubing loop
You can go in and just trim those out at this point I’m just going to kind of wrap this stuff down more so just to keep it out of the way me notes so I’m just doing some pretty loose FES and tri off those ends again always spinning the thread flattening it
Out take our gold pencil going to pull that under up and around so that we capture that on the back side of the hook that off so it’s blush with where that return ey is we’re just trying to fill in that little Gap right there and now for floss I really like
The down and back look it just helps I feel like with better coverage so I am going to flatten my thread and we’re just going to take wraps to cover all of this soap is just spinning my thread cter lookwise now for this we’re going to have a
Throat of two different materials so we’re going to have a throat with a breast feather a guinea feather Pearl on the top or sword on the top and bottom so need to leave a little bit of room up front but not a ton which they pretty pretty tight
In I’m going to take my floss and just going to tie that in half itch in it and this is where especially on floss bodies try to smooth out as best I can and tighten that tension nut so that it’s uh controlled spin not a free Spin
I don’t like free spinning for most things unless it’s like peacock her where that’s the whole point of it this isn’t going to be the smoothest body in the world but that’s okay so as I go I’m kind of w unwinding that floss so that as nice and flat and not corded
Not if you have a little Gap don’t worry too much about it we’ll catch that on the the front end of it let me wrap it forward it’s one of the nice things about doing it with the front you know front and back technique before you start wrapping back
Up you can go ahead and burn it again that just gets you know some of those little Hills and Valleys flattened out by far not the most perfect body in the world but get the point fill this part in a little bit there’s a bit of a dip right
There now we can toy that off good burnish get any of those little dips and woes out best you can um if you don’t have a burnishing tool you can also use like your half itch or not your half itch your Li finish tool anything smooth metal
Smooth like aate that sort of thing next we’re going to wrap our rib so you’re generally you’re looking for five wrap six to come in up now at this point this is where I’m going to switch out to black thread we have the body done which was the main
Thing we were using the white thread for so I’m just going to tie in my black thread the others so from here on I have the throat and and all that we’ll just be using just black so for the under Hackle the pattern calls for a FAL plume from a
Pheasant rump in purple spun in a dubbing Loop uh I don’t have one of those so I’m just using some met soft tackle and I’m just pulling the fluff off of them and using that in a dubbing Loop and it it pretty much just accomplishes the same
Thing so here’s the feather I’m just cutting all of that fluff off and I’ll be putting that in a dubing loop for the dubbing Loop I’m going to do it a little bit differently I don’t know if you follow Harvey on Instagram but we’re going to use the vice to do it
So with this I’m going to hook my thread to make sure the right length so rather than using like your standard dubbing Loop where it’s down below we’re actually going to use it over to the side so that we’re using our vice to make it if you can see I’ve just attached the
Thread to that that spring and we’ll use the spinning aspect of the vice to to make the dubbing Loop so right now I’m just trimming some of that fuzz off the F off of this feather I really think it’d be easier just to get the felio plumes I just the one I
Have is not not quality enough for for my taste it’s really greasy I need to wash it and clean it up some before I use it for this I am going to wax the thread a little bit so r that up just helps it stay in there a little bit better
I’ve cut that fiber off and I put it in my clip try to turn the camera a little there we go so at this point just going to insert that material into that Loop then I’ve got my tension nut WI open oh I guess it would help if I bring
My you know thread over I’m going to bring my thread over also post and we’re just going to spin that so we’re we’re pretty much just making a dubbing Loop using this spinning function device you can do this with feathers like this um rert Harvey gosh if you
Watch his YouTube channel there’s just uh absolute tons of videos of him doing this for entire flies make Game Changer type flies so now we go that I’m going to tighten that back up and we’re just going to make a collar out of this this is what’s going
To prop our hackles up so you want it to be you know pretty full there’s too much you can always pinch the longer ones out or whatever but you want it to be quite full this is what’s going to help give it that profile in the water and hold that Hackle
Up again we’ll just tie it off just like we would dubing Loop because really that’s all it is we’re going to use um some purple dyed gimme this will be the first taller I try to find one that has the small dots on it but I’m about out so
This is all just a big dot Guinea which I don’t care for you want it to be fairly long I like to have it at least going to the hook Point try to find one with a thin stem that’ll help you in the long run we prep it like anything we grab
That tip pull those fibers back cut our triangle so do it again so we’ve just cut that little triangle to tie in the thread good there spin it counterclockwise that way it jumps back bind that down you want you can use Hackle pliers um if it’s long enough you don’t have to
We’re going to pull those fibers rearward and take a few wraps this one probably could been a little bit longer but that’s okay button out yeah I guess I would have preferred it to be a little bit longer but this will be fine see how that uh feather purple feather underneath though is
Going to prop that Hackle up that’s what we’re looking for next one will be peacock breast feather I hate using this bird it’s so pretty I just don’t even want to use it so just got one feather I’m just going to strip all that fluff off the bottom of it
And then no different we’ll find the tip of it pull everything back and just make a nice tie-in point so just a there we go Point again I like to wax the thread when I’m doing these it just helps fold it in spin your thread re antio wise so it jumps
Rearward same thing we’re just gonna wrap that around a couple times as a collar I like this Hackle to be longer than the other one so just as you’re wrapping pre those fibers rearward just just tie that off and you can just trim that excess out spits your best friend go ahead and
Just give it a good spit Down super technical term right there um next we have H so we’re going to have a wing of SS on the top and the bottom so technically a wing and a throat and it’s going to be again peacock sword so for this I like to find the
Stuff that’s a little bit further down so I have a little bit more length to work with and if I can find some that doesn’t have a god- aful curve in it all the better um sometimes if it’s too curved you might have to find ones from see can find
It Go the same sides from a right and a left go right left that way they’ll kind of curve together but if you can find some that’s straight enough you can just go with that so much of this just comes down to to you know how particular you want to
Be so I’m going to try to pull those fibers down for now the dose of scotch spit because that works best you want this to go just not quite all the way to the tail take a loose wrap and a few binding wraps those butt ends out bottom side so technically the
Throat um we’re going to do the same exact thing but they will be shorter um so they won’t go quite as far back and nice thing is I can just invert my vice so not trying to Monkey around with the bottom of it as much again we’re just going to take kind
Of a loose wrap make sure they’re all stayed right on top of the hook shrink guess in this cas the bottom of it so they’re like I said they’re not going to go quite as far back and those but ends off so at this point all left is
To put the jungle on so for that um oh look I even busted out the nice one um if they’re fishing flies I really don’t care how nice they so some people like bigger jungle COA some people like smaller jungle eyes whatever floats your boat you don’t have to have them at
All right so there’s the jungle to prepare it going to just trim these feathers off and so I’ve just got little nubbies to tie in kind of like that just a little bit of L on the edges to give it some place for the thread to to grab on
To do that on both sides try to make them even looks nicer but most people aren’t looking at both sides of your fly at the same time so all that really matters and we’re just G to tie those in make sure they’re positioned how you want them looks
Good and then I’m going to go in with just a couple this is where kind of fine point scissors are really nice you can also use a razor blade just be careful if use a razor blade not to scalp everything then go in and just put a little head on
That some people leave more room in front than others a lot of people out here like to riffle hitch flies which makes them skate I have no idea where my whip finish went anyways or you can just you know whip finish it by hand if you don’t know where your
Shitment um yeah a lot of people will leave more room up front out here on their steel head flies so you can riffle hitch things um I didn’t on this one but that’s certainly a possibility just depends on how you like to fish for
Ste so say this was kind of up and not not quite going the way you want it to you do have the option we’ll go back to one of these straws you can just spit it up a little bit give it a spit down and
Then just put a straw over it like that for a little bit um once that spit dries um it’ll have that nice flow to it once you fish it it’ll have that flow anyways but it’ll you know look prettier in your box if you do
That um and then i’ put a few coats of head cement on it just make it a little bit safer from the Steelheads teeth but so that is a Royal Treatment my favorite steel head fly ever I’m hoping to about this week and maybe actually catch a steel head it Um yes I think I think is that good Derek or do you want me to keep going that’s quite a bit oh you’re muted Derek thanks for giving your time Brett yeah thank you Brett BR very much can I ask a favor can you photograph your um spring
CP yeah yeah the hair clip no no no the that one oh yeah one you Bri’s made up is it made it up rert Harvey’s is way fancy and all polished ours is a spring yeah no that that would do me fine can you photograph
It against a tape or something so I get the idea of size you’ll mess with it a little bit like if I use the bigger Jaws this length is a little different but it’s pretty cool to use it yeah I haven’t got that that’s an added thing I
Need you can get you use that for get get different size Springs Pete with a little ring yeah that’s what I’m gonna have to get I haven’t used that I do it another way that look quite cool every day is a learning day yeah thanks for taking the time Brett especially on
Thanksgiving thank you um has anybody got any I was just asking that thing that you just showed what what did you use that for I missed that let me let me I’ll do it this Way yeah sorry I I popped out for some coffee when you did that part Stamina So rather than doing it down here I can move it up to my what I find helpful is then it keeps constant tension on it I’m not having to keep constant tension on it to put materials in and rearrange them that’s a lot easier where if I’m
Trying to keep tension on it down like the normal way to do it TR to keep on it and put materials the material it all falls to hell and it fall out and start over where having there all I have to worry about is put materials in then just you’re just in
That way you’re just your Bice then to the buing loop as oppos tool thank you
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The bobbin she is using does retract very easily ,in fact it takes some getting used to at first. However, once you master the clutch on it ,MAN, what a beautiful piece of equipment .It. took me a couple of failures to over come the retractable mechanic's of it but now I will never go back to a standard bobbin.
I use a bleached deer or elk hair on my stimulaters also Britt.The Tom Thumb fly is an original 1935 fly by it's original tyer. This is true ,the dubbing he used back then was from a sheeps butt.It's true back then they used what ever they had and that's what he had on hand. "I know your all laughing your heads off but it's a true story. Check out "Savage flies". Almost ALL his flies are from the old days. I've tied quite a few of them Even gave a few away to friends /along with the story as well. Tight Lines everyone.😂🤣😅😆😁 Ken!