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00:00 Crazy Intros
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10:53 Dating Coach Height
12:15 Advice For Short Guys
30:30 Verbal Game
46:34 RSD Alex & RSD Sam On Real Social Dynamics
47:11 RSD Luke (Luke Krogh) Scamming People
57:08 How To Avoid Getting Scammed By Pickup Coaches
58:14 Scammers Just Make The Pickup Community Look Bad
59:25 How To Game At The Gym
1:07:40 Cold Approach VS Social Circle Game Debates
1:11:06 Book Recommendations
1:21:56 Favorite Cities For Game
1:35:56 Alcohol & Night Game
1:45:02 Crazy RSD Stories
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2:10:34 Poor Mindsets In Game
2:16:56 Sex Game
2:29:40 Where Do Coaches Meet Women?
2:33:58 Content Creation & Content Strategies
2:49:02 Things PUAs Get Wrong
2:58:47 Final Comments
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Me and Sam I the way I talk about it is like we’re children from the same orphanage we were like beaten by the same parents and it made us strong but also some scars so RSD Owen like was in pain
He’s like I wish I could have such a happy sex life Al righty uh welcome guys back to the dating coach panel uh we got a few interesting guys here with us and the beauty of the dating coach panel
Is that we get to explore lots of topics about dating and get so many different perspectives and even if we get to uh get similar views then it becomes extremely clear what the right answers are I learned that from the first episode uh even the coaches themselves tend to learn things from these
Discussions and the feedback has been extremely positive from everyone um so let’s get these intros in uh I’m going to do intros crazy intros for everyone we have Marcus Wolf the voted best pickup artist in World 2023 and we have um Alex from playing with fire we have um another Alex
Who used to be part of real social dynamics and now runs four week natural and we have another Australian Sam who also used to be part of real social dynamics and we have another Sam Sam Overton fluid social not Australian because he’s British and his ancestors behave themselves
So now that we got the the little humor out of the way let’s uh jump straight into these questions uh I think first one I’m gonna go with is um what are your here was a super easy one what are your go-to
First dates are we going any kind of special order or no just jump in no order uh my first go-to first date is inviting the girl straight to my place if she doesn’t want to do that then my
Plan B is to invite her to take my dog for a walk and then invite her back to my place 20 minutes later all righty what do you uh tend to do at the place uh if she drinks I’ll have a drink with her
Although typically I don’t even drink anymore so I’ll pull her drink and then I’ll drink some cava uh if I’m really like in the mood maybe I’ll have a glass of wine and then just escalate and
Then try to sleep with her basically all right oh I see those dogs in the background oh [ __ ] yeah that’s a [ __ ] amazing one right there is that a husky it’s a Siberian Husky yeah beautiful my
Favorite dog actually I gota get one of those when I awesome stick to one place okay who’s next yeah Simone to Alex I typically we’ll just have the girl straight round it’s a lot easier if you can
Build out the compliance first cuz the girl comes around she expects sex she knows what’s going on you don’t have to [ __ ] around you don’t have to worry about anything it uh it does feel like Uber
Eats for sex essentially so that’s going to be my go-to if not then um a alternative would just be like drink at a bar close by and the whole goal is you’re trying to set a frame that isn’t like super
Relationshipy because that’s not congruent with like first night sex so if you’re taking girls on romantic dates you’re taking them to like P putt or you’re going to like a [ __ ] movie or some [ __ ] the go will be much more willing to say well this feels like a real date this feels like
Relationshipy I probably shouldn’t be a little bit of a [ __ ] and sleep with him on the first night so something really chill really easy just a drink you’re there for an hour bounce back to
Your place uh is a way to go uh just quickly Alex you said you drink Cava yeah what what is that is that isn’t that like the Polynesian like yeah drug yeah it’s popular in uh exactly in uh like South
South uh the South Pacific like uh fij and stuff like that that’s where it look uh it’s essentially I don’t know the best way I explain is it’s all the pros of alcohol without any of the cons or
At least without most of the cons you kind of get all the positive effects but you don’t get like uh sloppy you don’t get uh stomach AES you don’t get hung over you don’t get headaches uh but you
Do get that like social uh fluidity uh you feel very uh euphoric um relaxed kind of the same way as alcohol it works on the same brain receptors it’s just different you can drive a car while you
Drink it it doesn’t affect your motor function um you can pretty much do everything it’s not going to make you aggressive or likely do stupid things um yeah I would say it’s like kind that’s the best
Explanation I can give I guess Dam all right I’m gonna give it a go I I assume it’s available here in Australia I haven’t even looked it up it’s available everywhere yes but it’s GNA be more available in Australia if anything because it comes from that part of the world all right I
Need to test it out cheers yeah they they talk about it that you get drunk from the body down your head sober CU they say there’s a there’s a the common joke in FG is they get drunk and they
Fall off the bar stol even though they’re like I’m fine I’m fine all right interesting problem is it t it tastes like dirt because it’s made from like root plants so it’s not the smooth most flavorful
Drink it does it does have a good effect though y’all are [ __ ] hippies I don’t know what the [ __ ] you’re talking [Laughter] about all right let’s let’s just keep going with the first dates
So what are your go-to first dates I would say it kind of depends on the it kind of depends on the context like if I’m in a foreign country like if I travel around go to you know a new place Colombia
Poland then usually I’ll use the first date as an opportunity to like get to know the city cuz often times you you know if you’re traveling solo particularly you want to kind of learn about the culture you want to see stuff so I’ll usually just like go like walk along like through the
Town see see all the stuff that I want to see in the city and now I have like a tour guide I have an excuse to see it in my own City I kind of often treat it like the sales Pro process so you
Have like a a sort of connect cool and then you have like a strategy or a sales cool right and I would like if you’re managing a lot of dates what I often do is try and have like four or five in
A row between like two and five in a row sort of vet the person because you might find within half an hour that it’s just not going to go anywhere and I tend to find that the type of girls that
Might have some resistance to going home with you on the first day if you’ve even seen them for like 10 20 minutes over brunch on a Sunday or something like that they’re going to be much more
Receptive to escalation when you meet them again so I often kind of try and like cycle through a few dates in a row to to vet a little bit if I’m in my home City but uh in foreign cities I I just
Use it to kind of explore as a tool guide so go check stuff out with the girl righty who’s next I do uh coffee coffee is usually my go-to I just love it I was like I just uh was in Bondi for a
While and no no resistance to to meeting up for coffee and it’s such a good thing and I love it so I’m I’m just I’m telling the girl I’m taking her into my favorite spot we go there the people
Already know me I talk about like getting some places locked down and so when you go there and you treated like a celebrity it’s like you’re already being uh you’re already framing the girl so hard cuz they know your name they know your order they’re very inquisitive about the
Girl so I I usually go back to the same coffee shop all the time and it’s just a it’s a good walkal Bondi and then it’s just like a 20 to 30 minute thing that rotates into something as a
Date like a second date third date depending on what if I Vibe with a girl or not usually I’m like vetting a lot more nowadays rather than just New Girl New Girl New Girl New Girl I want
To like quality girls is the coffee shop open after 5m it can it be open in the evening they often closed at like four especally yeah well Sydney Sydney’s not good yeah that’s the thing
There’s one that that’s open so do look at that Alex I do like I’m like work at like a 400 p.m. but if I change to that the only thing I change is like sushi for that late night because they’re
More open and then girls the only the only like kind of thing that I get back from girls is that they don’t want to have coffee too late so that’s where we’ll we’ll change it for sushi but that’s
The only two things but if you if you go to like a Dubai or you go to La they’re always open you know uh I think that the funny thing with that is you can’t have too many of those coffee dates in one
Day because you’ll just be [ __ ] running around screaming that would be crazy or Cara dates you’d be dead dat in a day you no I could do I could do it easily that’s not a problem for me ready
Is anyone not answered so far yeah yeah um I had a Spate of a lot of dating halfway through last year and the girls that I would ask on dates have a really competitive dating life so they have a lot
Of really good offers so I’m thinking I want to have a really high standard day cuz that reflects my lifestyle and my standards so I like to go to really lovely fancy restaurants I’m 38 as well so
I’m a little maybe a little older than you guys so I got a really fancy cocktail bars at hotels around different cities London New York or Sydney and I love having cigars so something like 5 or
Six in the afternoon something casual they can do after work and again I’m vetting the girl and I want it to be something that I really like as well so that if I don’t like the girl and I don’t like
The first 30 or 40 minutes of the date at least the location is nice it’s a place that again I feel at home these fancy Buys in London and New York uh I can have a cigar and then I can kind
Of pull the pin if I don’t like it or I can take it further if I do the general policy that most girls have in their mind at least is I will not sleep with a guy at the first opportunity that’s
The general policy so that first date I generally expect okay she’s not aiming to sleep with anyone so just relax enjoy the process um self amuse a little bit get to know the girl enjoy my time
And then share that with her and then usually if the girl consents that I don’t expect to sleep with her on day one she thinks okay maybe I will sleep with this guy on day one but as one of the
Other guys said depends on a girl if she was like a touristy Backpacker type of girl which generally I don’t like because they don’t have the same like hair makeup Fitness um as like a city girl a well
Put together more mature City girl um then yeah I might just invite her to my house or my Airbnb and go for a walk and then try to pull pretty quickly but generally I don’t want to look like I’m trying
To pull because that is more disarming and then they get more in the mood to maybe do something on day one but to answer the question in short a lovely fancy hotel bar um where they serve cigars
There’s a couple of really good ones in New York Sydney and Los Angeles uh and London that I go to oh interesting all righty let’s move on to the next one uh how T are you guys in feat you know
This is going lead to another question I’m 5 5’9 and a half 57 just I’m taking and a half oh wait so there there was let let’s go through one by one uh Sam mson 57 Alex social uh 58 I actually
I employed other coaches for a little while I had one guy who was like 510 and all the the people signing up they didn’t want him cuz they thought he was too tall therefore had too much of
An advantage so I’m 5’8 in like 174 CM the camera here so I look tall damn this is objectification I don’t know Sam shaming just over 5’9 uh Marcus I’m uh 6 fo2 on Tinder but uh six fo in real
Life oh playing with fire Alex yeah I’m 510 and a half 6 feet on Tinder damn wait so all of you apart from Marcus and me are under six feet so actually you know that’s a pretty good thing for
The guys watching to know um my next question is plenty of guys are using their height as an excuse for why they can’t attract women it’s impossible apparently uh some guys even look to try boosting
Their height by wearing shoe lifts but but imagine the surprise a woman gets when you get her in your room she’s ready to have sex you take your shoes off and suddenly surprise uh you’re shorter than
Her and then she accuses you of scamming her with your short ass legs and leaps obviously that’s a little far-fetched um uh but some of you guys may be short so what advice can you give to uh
For our shorter comrades I got a good one for this one uh let me fire away on this one so I have a group of friends who are like bankers and extreme like extremely wealthy business owners
In Miami and New York and all of those guys they might be like 5’9 510 bit taller than me and all of those guys use shoe boosts to go out in Miami and New York so really high-end guys that I know
Do that and they use the kind of shoes with those certain special sorts of heels and then recently in Tokyo I had a student who would have been like 53 or 164 cm if I think that’s 3 but it was it was
Little it was a little guy really good guy worked for Apple American guy living in Tokyo um and the problem was whenever whenever girls would see him they would immediately look at the guy and put him
In the category of you know friend zone or gay best friend or something like that um and then he went and did a bit of work and he got these special shoes that added his height about 10 cm
Popped him up to like 174 cm it’s like 57 5’8 um and then and then what happened for this guy was like magic IAL he the girls would look at him and he’d be stylish with cool haircut and everything
And then they’ll put him in the category of okay give this guy a chance and then he got such positive feedback from that that his personality came alive he followed the process um his game
Was really good and then all of a sudden he was really energized by that and he said that exactly what happened in the question um is he would get girls home and there would be surprise but then
They you know they made such a good connection with his personality they had such Rapport they’ already got so bought in that it didn’t matter um and that’s you know a lot like for example like a lot of guys will they might be really goodlooking they might have really good game
They might be really wealthy and the girl gets really bought in the guy gets the girl home and he sucks in bed but the girl’s already bought in to like okay he can be [ __ ] at sex but because
I’m already bored in and he’s a good person I’ll go for it so to to alleviate the worries of your listeners once the girl’s bought into you and she sleeps with with you all is good she likes
You and once you’re in you’re in it’s not a huge like bait and switch if you do use heel lifts or like high shoes or something like that um but the reality is if you’re probably under six foot what
Is that 5 foot five or 5 foot 6 proba 5 foot five you’re going to be having a little bit of trouble so by all means use it I mean girls use it all the time and a very ignorant kind of like
Narrow-minded girl might judge you girls use it all just just to cat you off a little bit girls use it all the time these are eight Ines so that would make you [ __ ] ridiculously tall um
My wife is like 5 foot free or something so with that she’s closer but not quite but yeah continue the legendary Jeffy from from RSD he had he had like massive uh boots that he would wear all the
Time so guys by all means do it especially if you’re looking for a bit of positive feedback when you’re going out and socializing do it and then deal with the repercussions when you get there it’s better to get a chance than not have a chance at all and do some Google searches
Online there are these incredible shoe companies that sell the special shoes that give you about 9 cenm two or three inches um and that can make the world of difference at least getting you a chance from the open rather than all that negative feedback because you are too short and the reality
Is it is a thing so it’s good to to do what you can about it I agree with everything Alex said I would also highly recommend for shorter guys even were like actually like average height to
Use them there’s I I’ve never heard of a situation of a girl last minute being like oh you had 3 in lifts in your shoes I’m not going to [ __ ] you when she’s back in your place at that point the
Girl’s brought in I mean You’ have to like whip out a micro penis at that point for the girl to like even then I think in some case the girl will still [ __ ] you if she really is into you so yeah
So I think that’s actually something every shorter guy should do uh because I think Alex is Right a lot of girls will instantly dismiss you and once you’re put in that like uh yeah I don’t want to
Don’t really want to [ __ ] this guy category uh it’s pretty hard to get out of that and uh you know you might not even get a chance to uh seduce the girl um if you’re you know she automatically
Dismisses you so yeah I mean obviously that can only get you so far if you’re like 5’2 you can’t have like six inch heels because that would be one painful and two that would be like obvious
You can go probably three inches at most maybe four inches if you really want to play with fire un intended uh so yeah so five so I guess at that point you can if you’re five you can go
Up to like 5’5 5’6 uh that’s tricky another thing you can do is you can try to like for your photos try to do don’t do photos next to other people who are taller than you that’ll be one that just goes
For anyone and two take more shots of you sitting so basically you don’t look short in your photos to give yourself like that competitive advantage and obviously don’t put your height in the bio don’t be like I’m 5 foot three there’s no need to like shout that out yeah that’s probably but
It is tough like I would agree that if you’re a gap who’s really short that is really tough that’s one of the few things that uh is it’s not an excuse but is legitimately can be legitimately tough to overcome if you’re extremely short uh versus other things can be fixed pretty easily
Uh like being overweight can be fixed even some facial deformities can be easily fixed uh you know with like some basic uh plastic surgery but this either requires really intense surgery which uh I don’t advise anyone does because can totally [ __ ] you up uh and yeah so that’s kind of I
Guess what it is it is a tough situation but I do agree that using lifts and good photography is probably the best thing uh just to Offroad a tiny bit here did you say uh your advice is not
To put height in Tinder bios if you’re short no all right yeah makes sense um yeah according to Tinder statistics height is the third most popular type of information and second is zodiac signs so you know some of these uh information things are going to be [ __ ] anyway so that’s just the thing
For Tinder people are always always putting their height on there uh but yeah anyway let’s get back to the original question also I can just add one more thing there’s actually certain apps that are more favorable for shorter guys and there are taller guys so for example on Bumble girls can
Actually scream based on height so for example Bumble can search six feet and over and unless you’re willing to lie by like seven inches which I don’t recommend because that would be too much of an exaggeration then you’re just not going to show up on her radar on Tinder I believe uh
Unless they changed it recently a girl could not filter by height so you are going to pop up on her uh whatever when she’s swiping in her deck so there are certain apps that will be more
Beneficial for guys were shorter I I would also I agree I agree with all of the above I would also just add on the more sort of psychological end of it I think that across all sort of Realms
Of life you can always find one person who has the same deficit as you if you think of it as a deficit that has got success and I I think that super important on just like a first principal
Basis to think okay if I think that my height is the reason that I can’t get women let me see if I can find one person who’s the same height or shorter than me that has got women and let me use
That as my fuel because you only need to find one to prove that it’s not you know critical and it’s not something that’s going to completely paralyze you in the dating Market um and I think Justin’s
A very good example of that I hope he does come on but even if you don’t share his exact Ori orentation or you have very different goals or a very different lifestyle I think Justin’s a really good example of like someone who you know slightly vertically challenged but his mentality
Is just [ __ ] go his mentality is like nothing is a handicap I’ve got what it takes I’m going to make it happen and there’s there’s people like that across all Realms so whatever you think your
People think their problem is all you have to do is find one person who has that same challenge who’s got the success that you’re looking for mhm yeah absolutely perect oh yeah go ahead go ahead
Yeah yeah I think I think exactly if you want to do a practical thing what I did 5’7 I knew that that would be like a psychological disadvantage so I made a active thing of trying to sleep with
Girls that were taller than me so I’d break that image break that belief so uh one day uh the the tallest girl has been 6’2 that I’ve got and there is nothing more humiliating than trying to do it
In doggy style and have to stand up while she’s on her knees there is nothing more just humbling about that but I will say I will say um I met the owner of kouri the uh what you guys are talking
The high boosting shoes you can also do Alexander McQueen shoes they are they have about two inches on them two to three inches and they’re quite good and they’re also stylish uh at the end of
The day again if we look back I did a tweet a long time short guys uh you’ve got Marlon Brando you got James Dean some of the biggest seducers in the world you got gamble Zer at 5’9 Kanye at 58
You had some of some some of uh you know you had Floyd at 5’7 you have Kevin Hart at 53 so a lot of the time it’s like you know work on building yourself as a man like if you’re if you’re 5’4
And a piece of [ __ ] and fat and broke and lazy that’s not going to be in your advantage it’s like you don’t have the requirement like you I you know if I want to compete with both the Alex’s
You know Alex and Mark it’s like I have to be I have to have my [ __ ] together like I have to be more fitter I don’t have a I don’t have the height there so I have to have a more ripped body
It’s just part of part of what happens you have to compensate and I always say if you’re short the one thing is you’re you’re not seen because you’re short right so you have to develop your personality develop your personality you’re you’re heard before you’re seen that is really good so
Expanding the personality as much as possible because you’re versing someone that is your your 6 foot 61 62 510 511 it’s like they’re in the ideal range girls are looking up and so but if you can if you can be heard they’re going to be more attracted to someone that has multiple personality
Can Captivate them the attention there then hi goes out the window I really want to had sorry man I had a lot of students on a on a program recently on a on a four-week program and half
Of them were quite tall these Norwegian guys and uh one thing that girls would say to me on dates cuz I’m in the short C agree on the short end of the scale is that height height is not a
Personality so a lot of tall guys they they rely on that and their personality is shitty because of that um they think I’m tall girls are going to look at me and then their personality sucks so as
Especially really attractive girls who have a lot of dating experience they know that a lot of tall guys think that Heights a personality but it’s not and they’re even more open-minded this is [ __ ] going around on Tik Tok called short King Spring short King summer or something so they’re open
To it they’re genuinely open to it and I’ve got this I’ve had so many students on the immersion programs this one short Pakistani guy who’s like 5’6 or 5’5 had like eight eight lovely girls in a
Month it’s it’s incredible anyway so keep going eyes oh yeah thanks uh I I really want I really liked Sam’s Point uh at what he said at the very start um that you made it your mission
To specifically find toer women women I think like all men who have this limiting belief or who think they’re disadvantaged by height um should adopt this Mission because should it this be exciting uh it’s just like that that is a funny story about the doggy style thing um but isn’t that
Wonderful that you’re able to tell a story like that instead of going w w I’m too [ __ ] short to do anything uh so if anything the the guys who are listening who are below six feet tall uh should be
Encouraged to actually make this a [ __ ] mission this is like uh some some raid in a video game type of [ __ ] this is some something that should excite you that’s a really interesting mission that guys should adopt yeah there’s nothing more more exciting than playing tootsies with a girl
That’s tall and you think you’re touching her toes but you’re actually touching her naaps yeah I just want to add a couple of things here as well I I think we need to be careful with
The mindset the guys start to develop based off like data because I think you can look up like I say this in the reped pill space like you can look up data from Tinder where girls are
Screening for height right there’s that whole I need a guy that’s six foot but I think if we actually look at relationships and who women are sleeping with typically these guys are just taller than them so there’s a fair there’s a fairly even distribution in the data of like
Guys that are getting laid based on their high it’s not just this 6 foot cut off that only guys over 6 foot are getting laid maybe what it looks like when you ask girls on Tinder but I think
That would be the scene for us if you put us in a situation where we’re like yo there’s suddenly over one night 3,000 girls that want to sleep with you we’re going to be like what the [ __ ]
How do I filter out these people so yeah if we’re on Bumble we’re probably going to filter out like yo uh big titties only or like you know super slim girls or like whatever your preference is
Now in a real life situation if we’re out at a club and some girl comes up to us she doesn’t have the perfect tits or like you know but she’s still hot and she’s chatting to us we’re not going
To be like oh actually excuse me because of that like scenario that you put me in front of where I had 3,000 people to choose from and I didn’t want that if you’re in person with someone and
You’re attracted to them you’re attracted to them so typically what that means for women is just a little bit taller than them right or is Sam was speaking about before if you’re just attractive anyway then they’re usually not going to give a [ __ ] and you know that’s where the halo effect
Comes in I can’t tell you how many girls think I’m like 10 foot right like I have situations where I run like BDSM scenes where you know I’m flogging the girl down up at me dude these girls
They will tell me like I didn’t realize how tall you were holy [ __ ] I’m like what the [ __ ] like I didn’t grow since like drinks at the bar or some [ __ ] like I’m the same height but the perception
Changes and this goes I have fat students that are like wobbling down the [ __ ] Street pulling girls and girls don’t realize like how [ __ ] physically unattractive there are because you haven’t attractive as Sam said personality so I think it’s one like keep in mind that women are
Just going to sleep with you if you’re attractive anyway don’t [ __ ] and this goes for any guys it’s frustr me it goes for any guy that has like that one insecurity whether it’s your where you’re from whether it’s your height whether it’s like I don’t know you’re going [ __ ] bold or some [ __ ]
Guys will just blame everything on that one thing as if like their game doesn’t suck okay so if if you’re not getting girls it’s probably my guess is probably not that one thing you think it is
Is is probably like accumulation of things so fix everything else um but otherwise I agree just to summarize the elevated shoes um show that you like tall women that’s a nice pre-selection if you show that you’ve been with a bunch of tall girls before it’s kind of helpful for the girl
To you remove some of that like social pressure uh measure your height like a female so you know me and Alex were joking before about our height but do that like increase it on Tinder because women if they see 6 foot they think that you’re probably like two inches shorter than that so
Bump it up um but yeah that would be as a tall guy my da advice for for being short interesting um I I like to that point you were making about uh the difference between the physical world and
Dating apps so for example obviously she could filter out guys if she has that option uh but if you’re in person it’s not like she can delete you from existence all she can do is turn the
Other way and walk away um being in person is just a completely that is the default this online thing is a new form that has only existed in the last few decades so the the entire system is different
So I just want to make sure that guys don’t get confused between how the internet works and how the physical Universe Works um just like Marcus was saying uh any last comments before we move on
To the next one yeah I I just wanted to add it’s it’s not even just the internet and social media definitely exaggerates that problem but it’s even like pre and post conversation I’m sure everybody that’s had clients you take them out and they’ll say like no none of these girls are
Hot they’re not my type She’s Too Tall she’s too fat whatever they’ll say this stuff but when you get them to actually go and start talking they start to realize that that woman is actually quite attractive so I think it’s even like not just the online Space versus reality it’s like
Reality before you’ve engaged with someone and reality after you’ve engaged with them even as like as men we reframe the woman once she’s once we’ve started engaging with her and having a conversation like she can become more or less physically attractive based on the way she
Communicates so I think it’s just like levels to it and the more you know about someone the more you’re able to reframe them and that goes for men and women interesting all righty let’s move on to the next question um so we got six coaches here so I must make this an opportunity
To discuss verbal game uh what are things guys can do to never worry about running out of things to say to a W uh to a woman and what should guys be doing to improve their verbal game in
General G kick us off sure I can try um I think that I don’t like the whole idea of having scripts uh or at least like concrete things that you have to say in a conversation I know some people do
That and it works that’s never really been my style I think practice is obviously going to be the biggest one and also in terms of not running out of things to say the less you give a [ __ ]
The less likely you are to run out things to say the nalge I always give is like if you’re hanging out with your friends do you ever worry about running out things to say probably not unless
You’re like super socially awkward uh why is that why do you why are you not worried about running things to say with your friends because you don’t really you’re not worried that they’re going to reject you so it’s the same thing if you don’t really care then you’ll probably just
Your brain will naturally come up with things to say uh most of time but sometimes you can still have these like awkward pauses and that’s where repetitions is going to come into play uh desensitizing yourself to the uh anxiety you get when you’re talking to a girl or in various
Social situations once you desensitize yourself thoroughly uh and you give a [ __ ] uh you don’t give a [ __ ] enough then you probably won’t run out things to say the vast majority of the time yeah backing up that that was great that was the average man I did some statistics on
That the average man talks between 15 minutes to one hour a day while women are up to about four hours per day so if you take that the average man talking 15 minutes a day let’s
Just say like you know he talks half an hour he in order to even catch up to where a woman is at he has to do massive amounts more so my my one tip is like talk more that’s it like if you’re
Like oh yeah I talk to the office there for a bit I went home I cooked dinner that’s all I talked it’s just like try double that tomorrow triple that tomorrow call someone on the phone like as much think about us think about every single person here right we are either talking
About social dynamics or talking to clients or just you know our day our own dating life we talk a lot why are we good because we talk how do you get better at reading you read a lot it’s
It’s very very simple so I would say if they they ever want to get like proficient at it talk more just in general in life I love that yeah yeah I would I would also just add to that I think it’s
Also accepting that you might just [ __ ] it up like it’s it’s always kind of a fake excuse that comes up it’s like oh but I don’t know what to say it’s like well the reality is like if
You can accept that you might not say anything cool that you might just [ __ ] it up that she might not want to talk to you and just accept mediocrity at the start and fully embrace the fact that you have no control over the the outcome of this specific interaction you usually loosen up
And things come to you but if you’re constantly seeking to be perfect constantly seeking to have loads of stuff to say in an interaction you’re just going to be constantly uh you’re going to have so much resistance to even going up and starting a conversation nothing’s going to
Happen cool I think yeah um when I think about like conversational structure voal game you need to treat this like a skill um I I love this advice for like the newbies which is yeah go out there talk a bunch like [ __ ] up like that that’s a really good start but then at
That point you need to think this is a skill this is something you want to improve what is the best way to go about this so I think like one having an actual understanding and like Baseline theory
Of the principles what am I actually trying to do in this conversation what am I trying to achieve here what do I want to demonstrate what are the emotions I want to create start from there and then ask yourself okay what does that look like you can start having a conversational structure
Now I agree with Alex that you got to be careful about having these like heavily scripted ideas because then you lose the whole idea of why am I doing this you lose that first point which is the
Principle so you’re not going to learn anything but it does help you or it does help students at the beginning to implement those principles in an easy way so it’s like okay I want to make the
Girl feel comfortable this is what I can say I want to increase attention here this is what I can say I want to demonstrate some of my value this is what I can say but then it comes to that
Third part which is you need to again treat this like a skill and actually reflect and review what you’re doing so go back and think okay yo like that conversation I had with like that girl the
Other night or that dat was on went for half an hour was really good but where did I [ __ ] up okay when I was talking about my travel I sounded like a [ __ ] broke uh guy that had
Nothing to do when I was overseas okay maybe I need to change the way I was saying that maybe you’re talking about your job and it sounds like you [ __ ] hate your life and I’ve had students
To do this they love their job got an incredible job and they say like they want to [ __ ] kill themselves so you reflect in review and then you implement that the next time you start to change
It um but yeah if you guys are running out of things to say it’s usually just because they’re running out of good things to say so reflecting thinking about what can I do next time is going
To help and then also Sam o mentioned is yeah be willing to [ __ ] up okay like just say something stupid it’s cool you’ll learn from it um but yeah trade like a skill uh reflector review and you’ll
Get better good point good point I would add uh my very wise coaching here is just talk to hookers in Las Vegas a lot of fun so we have have these students we do our boot camps obviously all
Around the world but when we do the boot camps in Vegas well when we do the boot camps the the immersions we have these different drills that help a student to learn how to talk you know a lot
And we have this drill called the alphabet drill so you know every student knows the alphabet A B C D or whatever and I said to the student okay you know it doesn’t matter so much what you say what
Matters more is that you don’t have any awkward silences having uh smooth and continually running conversation it’s kind of like Rapport it’s like a warm hug or like you know working a cat in your
Lap that is soothing to the girl and it keeps them in the moment it keeps them out of their head so this alphabet drill you can do it with anyone but I would have these really introverted
Students do it with hookers who are sitting at the bar in Vegas and if you can imagine other dating coaches like a small introverted Asian guy with glasses who’s not not very social he goes and
Sits up next to a [ __ ] hooker at the bar and he thinks of a topic starting with a it’s like I ate an avocado today the girl’s like what the [ __ ] you like bananas I have a cat the cat’s name is
Dingo do you like do I saw an elephant at The Zo and at first the hooker is like what the [ __ ] is going on here and as he goes through the entire alphabet They’re laughing they’re having a good
Old time and with with conversation with the way that I teach it on the program is that um there’s positive negative silly serious you me past present future hypothetical and factual there’s all these different indexes around any topic so if you talk about job then you can talk about
Future job past job ideal job hypothetical job my job your job travel and then future past present hypothetical like so there’s all it’s really easy to take one topic and then kind of expand off it
Many ways so just for the guys listening to this video some drills that we use to get you better at talking all of the time the alphabet drill is one just to keep your mind running a drill that I can
Make that I make a lot of students do is to sit in front of their MacBook and record themselves for like two minutes at a time just keeping the conversation going instead of high spiking high octane conversation it’s more lower low octane um Rapport type of conversation when you’re just
Kind of like shooting the [ __ ] it’s soothing softly spoken smooth voice nice Rhythm and back and forth and a lot of the conversation you can put words into the girl’s mouth saying things like I’m sure you would or I could imagine you would like to and then having the conversation
For her and another drill that we do is that free association exercise so say something like mobile phone or watch and then you need to think of five things associated with that and then you think of watch think of Apple five things associated with apple and then for anybody listening to this if
You do a free association drill on your own you think of five topics and one of those topics comes up you can think of five topics related to that and it just keeps going then you personalize it
Tell your story uh ask her story and I think one thing that most students don’t understand is it’s great to just volunteer content about yourself so my guys were at the bar last night in Sydney
And you know they run out of things to say because they’re always asking the girl like where are you from what do you do but if you just volunteer and say things like let me introduce myself my name is
Alex I’ve got a social media company um I’m here with a group of friends we just kept got back from Tokyo we missed the earthquake by one day so it’s really easy to start letting conversation Flow by volunteering information about yourself because you’re offering content the girl can engage with
And then she can question you and you can get a really good back and forth going and she can prompt you to keep chatting so instead of you know desperately trying to suck conversation out of her
Offer content and that will drive a lot a lot of conversation but you remember that tip go to Vegas and talk to hookers at bars basically the the Alphabet game is [ __ ] hilarious I’m losing
My mind in the bar it’s hilarious if you do sales you’ll get good at talking to people also oh yeah definitely I was in sees before um yeah that that was [ __ ] funny yeah yeah go ahead I think these
Are great I think guys need to be really careful though of um of developing like some negative habits around conversations um because what I see a lot of times some guys go in and it’s all about
Just oh I just want to talk I just want to talk and it becomes like this little bit of a uh what’s the right word for it like gimmicky or silly and I I see students like this that come on program and
Then they I’m like what are you doing right they just sound like ridiculous and it’s like they’ve taken these um like games that they can play or ways to become a little bit more social and they haven’t like developed from that and haven’t moved forward so this is awesome get warmed up
But then you need to start thinking okay what is actual good conversation here because if yeah if you’re just like talking to the girl or if you’re just like making silly jokes all the time like no
Girl’s ever going to [ __ ] take you seriously so you need to always just as a warning like everyone listening to this you can use all of these you can get more comfortable with the conversation but at
The end of the day you need to start thinking what is going to be attra practive conversation like move on to that um maybe an obvious point but I just get frustrated seeing guys running around
The city acting like idiots all the time a lot a lot of guys do miss serious conversation they they miss um genuine compliments and genuinely sharing themselves what they’ve done and genuine factual observation you’re exactly right so many students they get to this they realize that they
Can be funny and silly and and crazy and they use it like a like a machine gun they don’t really know how to control it but it has to be a perfect balance between silly stuff and playful stuff and serious stuff about yourself about the girl you’re talking to imagine like a compass
Where you’re kind of balancing between the two if you notice you’re too silly go back to serious too serious add the silly a lot of serious guys suck at being silly so that takes a bit of training but
Otherwise I agree with the point yeah me too uh I found that funny about like the the alphabet drill that is some kind of game because at least with games it’s not something you take too seriously
Of course in the last two minutes the valid points uh but for starting off if you see it as a kind of game self Amusement like that was [ __ ] hilarious to me just talking to strippers at a bar in Vegas
Alphabet what a weird [ __ ] game I want to see that [ __ ] A stri A Stripper sitting there at the Wind Casino it’s like hey baby you want to have some fun tonight it’s like I have a cat I
Have oh do you like elephants do I had a feather the girl what the it’s just so [ __ ] random but I think it’s uh pretty pretty good in the sense that if you’re treating it as a game you’re not
Taking it so seriously it’s like uh do people think about that time five years ago when they lost that game of Monopoly nobody [ __ ] cares it doesn’t matter it’s just a game but when you treat uh conversations at the beginning at least like a game then I definitely see it
That extremely uh useful but all righty let’s move on to the next one can I can I add one more thing I’m starting to wake up it’s like eight o’clock here in Sydney like on a Sunday morning I
Just got back from [ __ ] Church um so when you know when you’re having a conversation you can do certain things that unstifled you uh a lot of guys make safe conversation and they don’t want to risk embarrassing thems asking for something from the girl um it’s polite it’s like the kind
Of conversation where you don’t want to have any chance of losing the interaction but if you can do something that’s outside of your safe Zone and that could be something like a dance move or a hug or you know moving your hips blowing a kiss fist pumping something that shows that you’re willing
To be a little silly you’ve set a precedent of silliness of openness and nonjudgmentalism in a conversation in a bar with somebody that you’re meeting so your scope of conversation can be far more colorful and exciting rather than just where are you from what are you doing but so so what
I would do when coaching is I would instruct the student to say something like do you think my hips are dangerous and he just pointed his hips and that’s an unusual silly but possibly funny thing
To do in a bar and once he’s laughed at himself then and she’s laughed at him as well and you set that silly funny open precedent then your mind is open to say a whole lot of things like talk first
And then evaluate what you’ve said later similar what um what’s your last name Alex playing with fire vich or something Alex what what valich said said just before so if you can say something silly
Or do a little dance or blow a kiss or this my favorite song something a little silly you set a precedent of openness where you can flow a lot better which is the which is the answer to this
Question sorry for interrupting go ahead mate no that’s all good um make a com if I can I I think um I think this works really well for guys like Alex and I and students we probably have that
Are like very playful sarcastic like this is kind of our personality um always cautious about that when it comes to students that are a little bit more let’s say like older serious um it’s good
To have like a variety uh I just find like it’s really hard to take a student that is like very serious has more of a dominant archetype has that like that Daddy feel and then get him to go up and
Do like openers like I would do which is I like that like hey my hips are dangerous he you got to be careful I think those guys are much better off just going up and saying like um you know hey
Look I got to be honest with you right now goes like what you look absolutely [ __ ] amazing and so you can have like a variety of let’s say emotional spikes you can give the girl like that emotional experience that openminded feel that okay this guy’s different there everywhere
Else and I think there’s like different spectrums and ways to do that I just don’t want guys to feel like oh [ __ ] I’m not that like funny sarcastic outgoing like crazy dude uh there are other ways
To like create those emotions I guess yeah I agree with Marcus it does depend on personality typ you know the funny thing is most [ __ ] don’t even care they don’t even try half the [ __ ] time they don’t like they’re like oh my I should get good in my conversations I should get better
Then do nothing about it like [ __ ] at least try like at least do something to improve your life speaking to yeah the exercise speaking to your own camera and then watching it back and then doing it again and again and again um it works W all you guys listening out there yeah that’s
Life CH that’s [ __ ] really improves did you guys learn that from RSD because I remember Owen talked about that long time ago no I just want to look at myself every day let’s see we have to speak
So much in these free tours me and Sam the way I talk about is like we’re children from the same orphanage we were like beaten by the same parents and it made us strong but also some scar sorry
RSD um okay before I get to the next question then I might as well drop it here I was can drop it after the next question but [ __ ] it um there a few days ago there was an incident
In game New York um Luke croak who used to be RSD Luke from real social dynamics RSD is no longer around anyway um but it turns out was uh scamming people and some people knew about this before but uh I suddenly started getting reports of this people coming to be reporting it
Because he joined game New York and he was taking something like 3,500 dollars to coach people and never delivering the coaching never flying to the city never communicating that is called scamming and uh when you when he what he does what he does just to make sure nobody Falls for this
Is he says um he he buys time basically and when you’re buying time that means you have acquired more time for the banks to uh not overturn the payments so it’s typically six months a window
When you can uh if you paid for something to have have the bank or your credit card whatever to um declare fraud and get your money back something like that depends what you’re using um so once
It’s passed those six months that six-month Mark or whatever it may be in your case you will never get your money back so I just want people to know to not uh fall for this and I’ll just be sure
That if a Coach is saying later later later and always delaying you will be running out of time before this happen so yeah that was an incident we had in uh game New York if you had any questions
Just drop them in the comments uh there’s a lot of scamming in this industry as a lot of people know but this was very surprising because this guy was part of RSD and I knew him personally um met
Him a few times in the last seven years and last time I was with him in person was on my birthday just three months ago so to me this is like very an annoying and surprising I don’t know but anyway
Let’s on can can I add on that yeah go ahead yeah let’s talk let’s talk about that go for it none of this is surprising to me at all I did a podcast with Michael stin like three years ago
Or two years ago and on camera I asked him like Hey so why did you and Luke separate because you guys were business partners and he’s like oh you know had different interests as soon as the camera turned off without even being prompted he gave gave me like a 10-minute long explanation he
Outlined to me in explicit detail how uh Luke was scamming people and how it just like was causing it was just creating a bad name for him and over and over again I was like d you got to come out
And say this publicly he just didn’t want to so I mean I can only do so much if he doesn’t want to but uh yeah like I’ve known about this for ages like this is I think I think Marcus you’re
Not surprised by this either I’m assuming I think you’ve known about this for ages too yeah I was going to say do we um I I think it’s important do we have screenshots of this ice all right so yeah
Good good question actually if you have been affected by this send me some screenshots so we can uh because I would be happy to put a video together and interview exactly I think I mean this
This sounds pretty obvious but I I think yeah put a video together put some like evidence out there uh just because everyone listening like there’s going to be a scam artists on almost all of us like there’s every pickup coach is getting called like a [ __ ] scam AR and [ __ ] so it’s important
I think whenever we claim it to actually have like the evidence approv to put it out there in shot I mean once again I’m not surprised and I’m not saying yeah but I think just having it out
There for everyone to see um will be a good action because other yeah we don’t want situations where everyone just getting called scam out us you know just makes all of us look bad yeah yeah
You also gotta be careful because he might see you like I know uh he I think uh I know Derek has a habit of doing that just like suing people who uh basically criticize him so you do got to
Prepare in a very like I would probably run it by a lawyer literally I would go to that extent just to make sure you’re safe and lawsuits so you you talk about in like a way where it’s not like a
Statement of fact so you just cover your own ass but also a really helpful tip I can give people is that um you can actually get your money back it’s been longer than six months which have be
Very persistent with the bank I’ve done it before uh you have to I’ve got money back for something that happened a year ago you just got to talk to the manager and you just gota literally not take meil for an answer and if you’re just like really persistent they’ll eventually just give
Your money back most of the time so just like the what will happen is when you call the bank it’s been like seven months they’ll say no no there’s no way we can do it they’ll be like oh
Talking to the manager won’t help we won’t change the I want talk to the manager anyway and then you just go up and up and eventually manager’s like okay fine we’ll do this one time uh so you can
Still get your money back guys if you’re really persistent damn I didn’t know that and I’m a Jew so that that says a lot thanks for the information though that’s useful it’s just taken away from the
Spotlight go go ahead man I mean it’s just it’s just taken away the spotlight from the Epstein case you know the list dropping so you know L on the [ __ ] list story right at the beginning
At the beginning of time in the pickup industry when the book when the the book the game came out in like 2004 2005 so many people want to pick up coaching and pick up coaching pick up and dating coaching is this new thing that is more genuinely helpful and personal progress personal Evolution
And empowering than uh any form of coaching that had come come along before better than psychology better than counseling whatever and there was like RSD sins of Attraction and like venian arts and so Tyler he saw all of this infighting between you know mystery and uh sin and seavo
And all these guys so Tyler in his wisdom back in 2006 he took these two guys hiking the other bosses from the other companies before you know YouTube and and social media and he said guys
You know the biggest picture here is that there are people out there that want help that and we can help them we can change lives in a weekend or in a month and the last thing we can be seen
To be doing is is muddying the image that we’re putting out there people watching this Channel people listening to these stories of of one idiot scamming now they’re not going to go and sign up for the help that they actually want that could change their lives because they’re going to be
Skeptical to begin with this is not you know like a a University degree that we have we have 10 15 years of coaching each one of us and they’re going to think okay there was one scam once
In this industry done not looking at this again that’s [ __ ] up so I think you know you guys on the call here you understand to play by the rules and to do the right things most importantly
By the audience and these guys who come for help because their life is not where they want it to be and that’s that’s the role that we play and the kind of the duty that we have I studied to
Be a counselor and a psychologist so I knew my life would be dedicated towards helping those who need it and it just it’s just disgusting that a dude like this would take advantage so play the
Game you know play the game with the gang with the banks fight the fight to get the money back write a million reviews about this guy and hold him accountable in the Society of accountability
That we have and and let me reassure you that we have all everyone in this call at least have done this job for8 to 10 years each at least and our duty is to the customer and to your help rather
Than this other dude who’s trying to to make a quick Buck which is just just disgusting three of us on the call are Australian and it’s like a totally una Australian cultural thing to scam people and to to steal so totally disgusting good accountability ice and just to remind you guys
That we don’t want to make a bad impression on the industry we’re we’re here to help I just want to add on that though I do think it’s very important for other coaches to call out like this kind of
BS because the problem is if you don’t uh then we’re seen as being complicit by the customers right so it’s like well you worked with this guy or you did a collab with this guy and you didn’t say anything so therefore the the Assumption by the prospective client is that uh especially
Skeptical is that like well you’re probably in it right uh that’s that’s really so I they do think but if you call that person out when you know when you see the issue then it’s like okay well there’s
No way he could be you know uh part of the problem since he already addressed this before it even you know before this even became a [ __ ] storm so I do think that’s one one thing I try to do on my
Channel is like I just try to like tell it like it is like if people ask me oh what about this guy uh unless I have some kind of legal contract with that person which I only do with one person
At this point in time and even then I still will kind of basically say what I what I want to say in a more legal Le type of way uh I do think that’s important because again I think it’s like if we I
Do see Alex’s Point how does muddy the waters uh because it’s like oh well like now like because basically if we throw shade on one person then it kind of brings all our credibility into question
One person could scam so can we all but I think the alternative of uh I guess just kind of uh focusing on our own thing and not saying anything is worse because then when invent stly blows up
We’re seen as being complicit so I think that the community needs to police itself just like every other community should to an extent police itself that’s why like for example you’ll see issues in like Academia where there’s like one person or like in police actually is a better example where
There’s one officer who’s corrupt right and his uh fellow officers not corrupt but they’re not saying anything out loyalty right and then their whole credibility gets called into question when that one person gets exposed right so I think that like yeah I do think the Comm each commute
Needs to police itself to some extent and I do think like loyalty obviously gets you so much but uh I don’t know like this are really tough questions like what do you do if your friend is become has become a scammer like do you does loyalty outweigh your responsibility for the truth
That’s like a really tough balance but I guess the solution is just don’t be friends with people who scam I want to add one thing to that I think from a client’s perspective I’ve had it quite a
Few times over the past couple of years where uh someone I’m on the phone with and we’re talking about a program they will say well do you have anyone I can talk to that you’ve worked with in
The past right and I think that’s a really good practice cuz it forces like me as a professional to then go through and like talk to my old clients and be like would you mind talking to this guy and
I think from a client’s perspective it’s actually very difficult to fake that stuff right it’s very difficult to find a convincing actor that’s going to lie on your behalf as a coach and so if that coach then comes back and says no there’s no one I don’t have anyone that you could talk
To that can verify that I’m Legit then that’s on that as far as I’m concerned that’s on you as a coach so I think good practice for any of the guys listening who are thinking about
Getting coaching is to always ask is there anyone I can talk to who’s worked with you in the past I agree with that definitely yeah uh actually that that’s a very solid Point uh I do see guys um in
The game Global groups ask about certain coaches so I do see that happening a little bit so that’s a very smart way to go about that uh I’ll just add on top of U playing with fire Alex’s Point
Uh which I love because I did interview Luke multiple times in 2023 it today is we’re just a week first week into 2024 but I interviewed him multiple times in 2023 and I don’t think there
Are any videos of him in the last few years until my videos and still those are the only ones um so for for me it’s kind of like I I dug up his grave because he disappeared for in the first place for
A few years and uh this was also happening in my group so for me it’s kind of like a duty because this is not only personal but happening to my own community and I interviewed him so yes it
Does muddy the waters a bit um because of the association but uh yeah how about we move on to the next one more uh talked about this one last time I think but beautiful opportunity um lots of
Guys always ask how to game at the gym uh plenty of guys [ __ ] it up so what should guys avoid doing and what should they do instead if they choose to game at the gym I would say things to
Avoid staring at the girl for too long that’s a common one uh offering to help her with her exercises they like they just girls they know how to do they don’t need to offer their help she knows what you’re trying to do anyway uh um unless it looks like she’s literally dying
And the W’s about to kill her you can go help her then but aside from that I don’t think you should offer to help um approaching her mid SEC that’s a common mistake they guys make it’s just no girl’s
Goingon to be want to talk to you while she’s like finishing her last heavy set of squats uh so what you got to do is uh uh you know not stare at the girl even if her ass is showing right you
Can stare for a few seconds make eye contact but if she’s not making eye contact don’t keep staring and approach her in between sets like looks like when she’s done I go up to her I don’t like to go
Two two Direct in the gym although I’ve done it before and it can work um in the gym I prefer to go a little bit more subtle so I’ll say something like hey uh I see you here all the time I want to
Say hi you know or if I’ve never seen like hey I’ve never seen you here before you need to this gym uh something along lines of that uh or if I can make some kind of unique observational
Thing I was like damn look like you were really struggling in that last set of squats I don’t know if I can think of something funny in observation I’ll go with that as my first choice uh I’ll try
To keep it short and brief you don’t want to like talk to a girl for 20 minutes at the gym because and she’s going to be like waiting to get back to her workout so I’ll keep it like two three
Minutes and then just grab her number and then do most of the heavy lifting either over tax on the deed yeah I think for me it’s uh join the most expensive gym in your area and they’ll have a
Lot more different facilities I talked to I just before this I literally looked at that video where we talked about the gym I was like you’re Equinox or something like that is going to be very very good because you got better people at the front desk you can talk
To you can build that Comon you got people in the sauner the cold plunge you got the locker room area and there’s just other common areas you can talk to people outside of the lifting weights cardio for sure in your where you live the sauna is uh is gender neutral like there’s
Girls in there or yeah yeah yeah 100% damn in Netherlands in Netherlands the sa is a cender naked in every gy Inland everyone’s naked together it’s wild it’s really weird I thought Miami was rchy Dam I guy moved to Europe no but no one’s it’s not it’s not sexy
At all everyone’s just like sat down silently but naked it’s not it’s not how you old people yeah like old ladies naked in the gym it’s kind of weird you get you get love old ladies old
Ladies I would I would just add I would add something to the gym I I’m quite conflict diverse naturally so I had to work a lot on being able to like deal with the social repercussions of
Somewhere like a gym and sort of get over that and for me like I’ve dated a lot of women for gyms it’s probably one of the most popular places that I’ve I’ve you know dated women from in my
Life and for me it’s always been a place firstly I would agree with what Sam said about finding like doesn’t have to be the most expensive but like virgin active minimum sort of like a a good
Gym with a spar area and then I actually would say get to know some of the guys right so what I do if I join a new gym is I first just talk to the receptionist get to know them and then
I’ll actively seek out the personal trainers and get to know the male personal trainers because they’re usually very friendly very amable and they know all the girls because they train them so what ends up happening is you’re talking to the personal trainer the girls start coming to him and
Asking when the class is on or what’s going on he’ll introduce you because you’ve met him and you know him now and you almost treat it like um like a Social Circle environment on steroids because everything happens so much faster once you know the people that are sort of the pillars
Of that environment the manager the personal trainers the reception and from there you can just treat it almost like Social Circle show up to a few classes talk to some of the girls try and persuade them to come to the next class and then on top of that if you bring girls from
Outside of that environment to some of the classes I started Jiu-Jitsu last year and brought some of my other girlfriends to Jiu-Jitsu and then that is obviously a massive social proof in that gym and you can usually bring them along for free classes and stuff so I would think of the gym
As some where where I’d advise more caution because on the worst end of the spectrum I’ve had to leave gyms cuz I made mistakes like seven or eight years ago I just like [ __ ] it up in a
Number of horrible ways and just had to like find a new place Al together so I have some caution in those environments but sort of operate like Social Circle by the way by far the easiest
Way to make friends at the gym is to get a dog uh register as a service dog so you can bring it anywhere I don’t know if this will work in Europe but in America if your dog register
Service dog which you can do online for 50 bucks it takes two minutes you can literally bring your dog anywhere and then bring your dog to the gym I did that for two years I didn’t have to approach
A single person you have a cute dog at the gym no one else does you’re not going to believe how many people guys girls everybody will come up will come up to you literally it’s like [ __ ]
Gym networking on Extreme easy mode uh but yeah D the dogs use a tread meal or something the dog would just sit there and chew on their equipment and then like that’s why it only lasted two years
Because eventually one day when I was at the gym the manager confronted me and he like showed me photos of all the [ __ ] my dog has chewed up he’s like your dog has done thousands of do dollars of
Damage over the years so you can either pay that or stop bringing your dog to the gym and I was like all right Checkmate I won’t my dog anymore I just started going to a different J but yeah uh
That was R girl when he was a puppy he’s better now dogs are a chico man like Alex Lindberg my business partner was meant to join this call uh he yeah he recently got a dog right and it was
A little pupp he takes out for walks man this it’s crazy I’ve never seen someone get opened so much in my entire life like he walks around like he’s a hot girl with a sign saying I want
To [ __ ] everyone like it’s crazy the amount like dogs give you it’s yeah so everyone get a [ __ ] dog and go to the gym but yeah I mean you guys gave great advice I don’t have much to add to
This the only thing I would say is like you don’t have to game of the gym I feel like there’s a lot of guys that they they treat the gym like it’s the [ __ ] club and they try to like optimize
Everything around like it’s cool to just go to the gym work out and go home and then like [ __ ] game when you’re at the club or like when you’re out totally agree yeah well said well said like look
If there’s a super hot goal in the gym then I’m doing it right but I I don’t think you should be going in there spending like 4 hours at the gym working out for half an hour and then trying to
Gain the other three and a half hours or whatever it is but yeah the advice um especially that Alex gave and and Sam I think is uh is really good in terms of getting in there quick um doesn’t have
To be a super long conversation you can treat like a Social Circle if that’s what you want to do with the gym I think that’ll work really well funny thing is the funny thing is when you say uh
What Alex or Sam said you’re referring to everyone in call apart from me yeah exactly yeah I I agree with everyone except ice all right damn it because I don’t go to the gym yeah exactly there you go I
Knew it all right I could tell all right time to go to the gym bring your dog yo in terms of the dog thing my dad uh when he first visited me like when I got the dog uh he’s like my dad’s like an
Old Russian man who doesn’t speak English like you know he’s like not like someone who’s like like you know well spoken by any stretch uh or at least not in English so he took my dog for a walk
And then he came back and he was like so giddy he was like he’s like oh my God I so many hot girls in Miami they come up they say hi to you like the dog is like insane like dude like you can like
Meet girl like you should walk more like the dog is just it’s insane bro like yeah my dad was like [ __ ] excited he never got so much validation in his life in like the last 20 years you know
What my dad what did he tag you in no my dad he he at the time I think he had a girlfriend already and he was like my dad [ __ ] around but damn Sabaka uh what are your views on the
Cold approach versus Social Circle Game debates uh and let’s have Marcus go last on this one I don’t even see why this is a debate they’re both both good do both like this is it’s it’s like a debate like vegetables or steak like they’re not mutually exclusive it becomes a debate because
This okay I’ll try it becomes a debate because some people out there basically say it’s only one right only one is good the other one’s [ __ ] you shouldn’t do the other I agree it’s a very simple
Conversation they’re both great um do them both if one works for you more than the other focus on that but yeah I think the idea that you pick one over the other and start advertising this is a greatest thing ever and nothing else [ __ ] M it that’s where there’s a problem they’re both
Extremely synergistic they work really really well together I forget who I am paring someone but someone said this pretty well I think a few weeks ago that I was talking to uh that like okay
So if you just do Social Circle you’re kind of at the mercy of other men in a way unless you’re a celebrity you’re having girls message you because you have to get girls from your friends because
They’re the ones to bring the girls in if you just do cold approach then you have to go out and like run volume every single time but if you do both of those you can source girls and then add them
To your Social Circle and then hook up with the girls that those girls bring or that your friends bring and it just becomes much more also it’s a much more attractive proposition for other guys that you’re going to be a social circle with if you can actually bring girls to the group
Like that’s going to be if you all if all you have going for you is that you can pull a lot of girls and bring them to social situations you can get in with like really high-end uh groups of
Men that’s like the big thing that most guys are struggling with even Rich guys so um yeah like I think they’re both super synergistic I I blows my mind there’s like a debate on this it’s like yeah I think they’re both synergistic extremely synergistic I I think it’s fairly self-evident I
Think it becomes a debate when it’s your business model right um I I think that’s where it becomes a debate I think you can quickly see uh who is the guys that are like okay cold approach is the only thing that [ __ ] matters it’s like all they’re teaching is cold approach the guys
That are saying texting is the only thing that matters they’re the only ones teaching texting and the guys that are saying Social Circle anything that matters they’re just teaching Social Circle and that’s all they’re doing I think for most of us that are teaching like a
Variety of these things it’s yeah as you said it’s fairly obvious it’s like yo get good at game first have some good fundamentals look you start [ __ ] some girls you start meeting some guys when you’re out okay develop a social circle around that start meeting them out like you take
That and use it at your advantage now when it comes to like learning Social Circle there are a lot of like amazing tactics that I’ve heard like other coaches talk about and use and I’m sure some guys on these calls can probably talk about it um when it comes to developing that
Circle in a really efficient way and that’s important to learn but to sit here and say it’s one or the other is just completely stupid yeah but anyway I’ll let you guys give us your thoughts it’s like theba socks underwear which one should I wear yeah I would say it’s it’s
Like whenever from the position of a potential client when whenever you hear someone who’s so radically like black or white so radically one way or the other they’re usually just trying to sell you something right if there’s not balance you should be very very suspicious
We’re drawn to the extremes this or that black or white but you should be very suspicious if someone doesn’t have a nuanced conversation around you know what they’re doing and what works Al righty let’s move on to the next uh what are your book recommendations for the guys
Watching uh name up to free books if you want to uh I mean there’s so many great books can I name more than three okay [ __ ] it I I’ll do I’ll just go through okay so the rod of Superman is
A really amazing book about flow States and it breaks down the science of flow States so one thing that’s interesting about RSD is they kind of uh started talking about being in state but there’s actually signs for it uh and uh there’s the book breaks down the signs of being in State
Uh so like I think RSD I don’t know if the book came out first or RSD started talking about first I think it was right around the same period uh but yeah there’s like actual signs to it
And it’s uh I mean I could go into it I’ve read this book many times but I’ll just let people read for themselves I think autobiographies can be good uh Arnold Schwarzenegger’s uh first book uh Total Recall it’s an amazing autobiography that I’ve read like three four times super inspiring
Um the first Elon mosque autobiography I think is quite good by Ashley Vance the second one I’m still reading I don’t have an opinion on it yet um Atomic Habits by James CER is a really great book talks about how like actually there’s a misconception that like your success will be
As a result of motivation actually your success is a result of your habits and once you form habits it’s it’s actually very easy to become successful and talks about how all the [ __ ] that we do in
Our daily life which we think we have a choice in like we’re choosing it’s actually most of it is a combination of the habits we formed and a lot of us have formed habits that don’t help us right talks about how to change those habits very very interesting book I recommend 48 Laws
Of Power definitely good if you’re into some gaming film [ __ ] like me uh or just good for like psychology in general I think there’s a lot of really really good examples there I love that
Book um yeah I guess I’ll leave it at that for now I I’ll hit I’ll hit four fiction books that are quite good or three fiction books because we we’re always in the self-development development but I I found recently I’ve actually changed more to fiction so I’m reading at the moment
The Count of Monte Cristo which is a phenomenal book recommended by Tristan Tate um also reading Ian I read Ian Flemings uh7 James Bond yeah that is phenomenal he is so much more of a badass than you think it is like guys like smoking 70 cigarettes a day [ __ ] multiple women like
I definitely recommend that book and uh then uh The Alchemist by poo gell so there there are some fiction books that I really love because again you can get so wrapped up in non-fiction that I think diving into a different reality really helps you take uh little characteristics from these people
That you’re reading from because you’re reading you know multiple pages on and you can put them into your personality have you ever read Game of Thrones I have not recommend yeah yeah I have like Game of Thrones tattoos I’m a huge fan yeah uh highly recommend I literally have read all the
Books like at least 10 times there’s actually a lot of really good lessons if you are uh you know semi- smart there’s a lot of really good lessons for Life there and for what type of approach or
Strategy Works in real life there’s a lot of lessons there actually if you’re like able to read between the ls definitely I I think books massively depend on the phase that you’re and the personality type you have but if I were to recommend two that fit on sort of opposite ends
Of the spectrum it would be the alabaster go by Zan perryon I think guys that don’t get any joy out of cold approach they think of it purely as a numbers game as a task as a chore that
They have to do to get this result xan makes it fun again so I think for clients that are taking it too seriously and seeing it something that they have to do and not something that they
Get to do um the alabaster go can give a sense of the sort of beauty of the process the pure enjoyment of being present-minded walking around engaging with people seeing the world for what
It is so that’s on one side and then on the other side for the guys that are floating on clouds the whole time um I think pimp by Robert Beck is an incredible book as well it’s incredibly dark uh
It’s incredibly uh there’s a lot of vulnerability towards the end um but there’s just so much raw psychology in there as well so those would be my two type book is pimp is pimp like a like a
Biography or Memoir sort of thing yeah so pimp is an autobiography by a guy called Robert Beck who is one of the four in New York in it’s not bter it’s not bexter Robert backck beer took his name
Right more confusing than this panel yeah yeah I know it was it was a pimp in New York in like the 1960s yeah I know the book yeah yeah that one I thought I did beex write a [ __ ] Memoir
I got you good book book it’s pretty pretty wild actually it’s a it’s a great book yeah yeah uh book recommendations uh yeah just to reiterate like a lot of the self-help books make you a kind of a a a hyp a psychology hypochondriac like um emotional intelligence how to when friends and
Influence people that kind of stuff can probably be more detrimental so totally recommend what uh playing with fire said any Memoir is really good or autobiographies like arold swartzenegger sports stars that you like any of these kind of heroic Feelgood stories where people just kept pushing
Overcoming the odds and then eventually getting successful that’s the kind of thing that will leave an emotional impression on you that you want to get out there and you know live life and take risks and make the most out of life some of my favorite Memoirs or autobiographies are
This guy called Tucker Max I don’t know if all you guys read that one Tucker Max I hope they serve beer in hell you got this guy who’s like 22 years old he’s studying law and he just goes
Around drinking and having sex with a whole lot of girls it’s it’s ridiculous tux hope they Ser beer in Hell [ __ ] [ __ ] finish first and hilarity in shoes there’s those three there’s one book about neuros Psychiatry um which is more like the uh the science of the the the chemistry of your
Brain called the male brain by Lan brisendine and another book called the female brain by Lan brandine and but the male brain explains these different hormonal phases that we go through adult life that helps you to understand why you feel overwhelmed when you’re 23 why you feel
Bulletproof when you’re 26 why you feel super clear when you’re 29 and why you feel paternal when you’re 33 or 34 so I thought that was really good because then you can kind of understand the chemistry going on inside of your brain in the same way like childhood versus adolescence there
Are these other phases that’s really good to know and that’s purely chemistry that dictates your body rather than conjecture psychology of emotional intelligence or something like that so there’s my input yeah Memoirs and Tucker Max is is really fun and really brilliant very
Empowering I will definitely second the Tucker Max recommendation those those books are great and there’s no book that will get you motivated to go out like reading Tucker Max’s first book I hope this are be in Hell there’s L I can’t think of any other book that made me as motivated to go
Out and drink to be fair but uh you know there’s nothing wrong with to like party like his book yeah and it’s also really [ __ ] funny it’s really really funny stuff uh he’s actually a really solid
Author all righty is they add everyone I think one one more has got to be Psycho cybernetics by Maxwell moltz that’s a really good one too yeah I love that one reality trans surfing another one crazy yeah uh great recommendations I just add on to that that just make sure when you’re like
Reading these books and you do feel inspired and you’re trying to learn things from like Implement everything right because I think I think yeah especially when it comes to self-held books uh there’s a lot of guys that read them they feel really inspired they get like a really strong like
Dopamine hit and it feels great and you’re like yeah this is really cool I’ll do this one day and then it never [ __ ] happens so going that’s why there’s a book called um something about rejection um maybe rejection proof or something like that I read a while ago it’s a really short
Book it’s just basically about a guy that went out there and every single day just did something that he tried to essentially get rejected through and it’s a really good book when it just talks about
Like going out there and just taking action and so yeah that would be just my advice um I mean typically I love podcasts like human lab things like that um especially the science-backed ones I typically sit here and read like articles and literature reviews instead of books but yeah when
It comes to all these books that you’re going to read make sure that you’re implementing everything that you’re learning from them you don’t want to be a self-development bro yeah exactly yeah 100% like a Power of Now The Power of Now bro do you remember Sam like Owen just like Tyler just
Berating you like dude you should read what’s his [ __ ] name toll read more toll like yes ow I read I read the [ __ ] book I didn’t like that think threw it I thought it was dog [ __ ]
Honestly if I’m being honest I agree totally agree yeah yeah same as what Sam said same as what Sam said I I read it like probably in a different time in my life hit a lot better so sometimes
They just seasonal books okay I always give it a go give it a second go but I can understand that I remember it the first time Alex I was like this is oh yes sir [ __ ] I’ll read the [ __ ]
Book fine I’ll read it again read T bro yeah man I got you all right I fire away next one oh okay uh what is your favorite city for or actually let me just add my book recommendation uh of course my
Own book The Message game but of course I would say that uh I I’m not much of a reader actually but only recently I put uh time into it uh I organized my life through Google Calendar uh so
Now I read for uh one hour a day for four days a week but I’m a [ __ ] redneck so I never read many books until the last like four years maybe uh I’m serious but uh if I could give one recommendation
I personally really liked the one thing by Gary Keller that’s more of a business and productivity book but uh just like I said I organized my entire life through Google calar that’s pretty much for you if you’re just like me if you’re like uh a very organizated a very organized person um or
Very serious with business and your time then uh I really loved that book that was very uh practical advice let’s say but uh next question uh what is your favorite city for game name up to free
And again you might go off a board with this but uh feel free to name more if you want to I I think like there’s people in this span who be better who are better able to answer this question
Because they’ve traveled more than me I’ve been through a a good amount of Eastern Europe uh I’ve been to Colombia and Mexico and I’ve been to uh well basically it honestly so I haven’t really
Traveled as much as I think some of the people on here uh but I would say from what I’ve seen if you like Europe Poland was great when I was there uh and now there’s a whole bunch of hot Ukrainian
Girls there so probably probably is even better now with all those hot Ukrainian refugees uh you can run Ukrainian Refugee game and uh I would say that for from what I’ve heard again I’m going off
Kind of a little bit but I’ve heard the southeast Asia is epic uh but from places I’ve been Colombia is great Columbia is amazing uh yeah you just just like it’s really hard to not get late in Colombia
You have to be like really not know what you’re doing um it’s kind of a trip too because I’ll walk around Colombia and all you have like so many more girls staring at me like that that happens
From time to time in Miami but in Colombia it’s like way more common so it uh yeah it’s pretty it’s pretty good for your ego I would say uh no but like I think Colombia is really great
Uh in terms of cities in Colombia I like M jeene specifically because it’s probably the safest one bot I got robbed of knife points so probably not going to be going back there Call’s a little bit
Of a [ __ ] hole uh Baron keia I’ve never been to so I can’t comment on that but yeah maybe the’s still cool uh yeah guys I’ve got to go uh after this answer so I’ll keep it short but basically
London is my favorite city um it’s not the best I would say it’s probably not the place you’re going to go and find like the highest quality but in terms of just pure enjoyment of walking around
The city and seeing so many different areas and having like people from all over the world you meet like a thousand different personality types beautiful women from everywhere I think London’s the most fun um but I’m defined 100% London is the best I agree well done well said yeah
Awesome and on thate English guys I got I got a dip out um got to go take care of stuff but it’s a pleasure to see you guys all again and uh yeah good conversation as always guys take care thanks
For joining catch you later 530 yeah I got I got unfortunately leave too uh but yeah thanks for hosting this ice I thought it was a really good discussion shoot me a link once it’s done and I’ll
Upload it to my community tab nice thanks good to see you guys good to see you Alex and Marcus I’ll be seeex I’m buying some car now so you’re leaving me with the Australians oh [ __ ] I know
It’s gonna be live all right guys take it easy all right take care hey brother oh no the best City the game right definitely not London Jesus there is so many English girls in London don’t tell me
You like English girls my girlfriend’s an English girl the thing is so I’ve lived I’ve lived I’ve lived and been based in London for a long time but similar like New York or Los Angeles once
You’re once you’re in the London scene and you’re not going to public clubs you go to the more like restaurant reservation type clubs it’s you know this like Rosie Huntington whle type of girl the the girl who was in Transformers they’re all the Kiran nightly types they’re they’re everywhere but
They don’t go out in central London so you would just never them so it took me a while to start getting my network going in London going to more private parties and private dinners and then it was just brilliant these girls they’re they’re they’re like all the class of European but all
The fun of a British girl they’re so beautiful they they drink they do drugs they stay up late they shag some of my best girlfriends have been British girls they’ve been they’ve been amazing but obviously they keep to them themselves and it’s a very competitive environment in London
Like New York or like Los Angeles once you’re in you’re in and it’s totally brilliant but you know I think Marcus maybe if you’re referencing like English girls that you would see here in Sydney they’re feral they’re feral like traveling girls or maybe southeast Asia I’m talking more High
Society London which is just it’s just Heaven yeah to be fair okay I haven’t to be fair I’ve spent like a couple of weeks in London that’s about it uh I’m talking about yeah mostly maybe I’m biased here but mostly girls I’ve ever met when traveling so through Europe um not many in
Australia to be fair but like you go to places like uh Budapest if you’re in Budapest English girls everywhere they’re the most [ __ ] annoy and they they don’t know how to dress they put way too much makeup on they sound stupid I’m sorry for anyone listening to this if you’re English I’m
So sorry I’m sure there are some nice girls out there okay um but for me like uh number one place biased is going to be Sydney um just because I think Sydney’s a place you can go out you get a
Range of girls okay so you’ve got the isran girls maybe a little bit Bri and whatever but you get like French girls you get some Scandinavian every single night there’s a night you can go out where
It’s busy even when I was in Miami like you try go out on like a Tuesday night it’s really difficult to find a place that’s like busy or like going off because it’s so spread out here in Sydney there’s
Like one club on a Tuesday everyone goes there it’s good times uh you can find a ranger clubs so if you want to like [ __ ] techno and Rave you can if you want to go to like a um [ __ ]
Really nice uh like cocktail bar you can it’s a really good mix um and it’s a really great place to live as well so biased because I live here uh but Sydney second to me would be Poland okay Alex already spoke about the Ukrainian Refugee game Ukrainian girls incredibly hot got to be
Like the hottest women in the [ __ ] Universe on average right and uh they’re very submissive so they’re like super sweet they’ll you you’ll have sex they’ll go out and clean your house and like cook your dinner and then like it’s really sweet very feminine and then third um and then they’ll
Ask you for million dollar no that’s actually not true so this is this was my to be fair this was my assumption too like oh [ __ ] all these Ukrainian especially like refugees are going to be like looking for someone to like take him to America or like in my case Australia or like
Looking for someone to like pay no like yes they will expect you to pay for like a meal or drinks or something but that’s just like very cultural like that I’m my parents are Croatian like if
I go to Croatia that’s expected there right it’s like the man pays like that’s how it is but no like no Ukrainian girl has ever angled at money for me or any of my students that happens
Way more in America to be honest right like so it’s yeah it was kind of surprising for me too but yeah none of them are like these gold they they get these label as like gold diggers I’ve
Never seen it once even with my students so um yeah really cool girls and then number three um maybe New York I I like American Girls attitudes okay I I think they’re a lot of fun they’re very
Witty uh I like that banter and New York is again a nice mix is very busy it’s cool City uh I could be persuaded with maybe like Vegas or you know Bary or somewhere else but uh yeah definitely
Number one Sydney number two uh Poland would be my go interesting well they live in London far away mine’s a little different mine’s like Social Circle related so for me uh Dubai is amazing I love Dubai you know you got you got you got uh you know people complain that there’s 80% escorts
But uh I did not find that and because you’re competing with people that have got money and they lead with money and that’s all they’ve got so if you have a personality plus you have money you are
In like where are the girl from mostly just just AR range Europeans all all of like yeah you’ve got um you know all of Russians all of Eastern Europeans uh you’ve got Latinos there you’ve got Arabic girls you got girls from Colombia there’s just every English girl German girls and so what
I found there is that when we go to a different place and the commodity is is not so much money it’s like personality like Australia you know now you’re competing against everyone that’s got a personality that’s fun that’s gregarious and that’s where that brat humor lied where you
Went when I went to jaai the commodity is not money because everybody has it so you being able to hold a conversation you being funny you being witty you having a great time which is just natural to Australians was snapped up in a second like that’s what have because they’re hanging out
With a billionaire who can’t even have a normal conversation it’s either about work or business they don’t really care about girls they just want it to be like Ry Ro Roi like can I talk to her for
Three words and then get her into bed that’s their mentality so when I was there and I was enjoying it and you’re on the Y parties and everything it’s it it was just it was very very easy secondly uh
I’m going to have to say for for LA and Miami for Social Circle that’s fantastic for cold approach in particular Sydney and Gold Coast and Brisbane are amazing uh maybe not Goos goast is social
So Brisbane and Sydney are amazing for for cold approach as well as uh back in the day Los Angeles don’t know what it’s like now for cold approach but uh where where I looked at I looked at how can
I leverage myself and then then uh so so I became a hot commodity so the Aussie accent in America is just adds like two points to you straight away so I kind of leveraged who I was because being
5’7 you have to kind of like see where your points are and see where in the world that you’re going to be perceived higher so having an accent and dressing nice and having money Dubai was good La
Was good Miami was good so they’re my three yeah nice Australian yeah what what Marcus said about Sydney for the guys listening to this channel who you know you just want to roll up to the club and
Meet a whole lot of people Sydney is brilliant you get all these young adventurous European and North American Girls traveling to Sydney all throughout the year it’s a big adventure and they’re super I would say promiscuous or willing to to have fun and be adventurous intimately so Sydney’s really
Really good in in that sense however referencing what Sam said when you start to get into the Social Circle with girls with higher standards and you need to kind of get into more private clubs or parties or events New York and London are the best they they really are the best and
Dubai is really good Los Angeles is really good when you’re in these Sex in the City cities are the best but for the people listening to this the best couple of places to go I guess Sam said it as
Well Sam Sam Overton um London you can just arrive and go Sydney you can just arrive and go but other really good value for effort is Vienna Vienna in Austria and warsa is pretty good for the for the
Reasons that we said we’re considering doing a four we natural program there this year but we we’ve forgotten the the Crown Jewel Helsinki Helsinki is the best there’s no men in the country all the girls have blonde hairs perfect English they’re very sexually liberal very pragmatic and
I remember like when we go to Helsinki we we we would get late every night if we don’t get too drunk or don’t screen properly so Helsinki is it it’s kind of like the cheat code going to Helsinki
The only thing is this a slightly smaller City and it’s better to go in spring and summer rather than any other time of the year because they get into relationships um and places like kosui or barley
Are good because it’s a big turnover but yeah I think we’re all painting a picture you’re getting the just now yeah actually that’s a good I forgot about Scandinavia uh good point the girls there I was talking about hot girls before I I got I got sidetracked by the hot ukrainians but yeah
Scandinavians it’s yeah good place Helsinki nice um I also like uh I was in swed it was way too long ago when I was in Sweden but I really enjoyed it there so yeah I need to head back yeah
I guess Antarctica there are no c yeah there’s some there’s some there’s more intica yeah it’s not bad those cities there it doesn’t count uh I I can’t really add too much to the conversation
Because I I haven’t been to Asia I haven’t been to Australia um I haven’t been to Colombia but I have been to other countries in South America but from the countries I have been to uh I did move to
London uh quite a few years back and I I’m there right now and uh yeah Alex was absolutely right in London you can just jump in and go because first few days my first week I had um I was already
Dating multiple women it was super quick and um and I that was only through Tinder and nightclubs uh I I was never a day gameer or anything like that so I didn’t put much effort into it but it
Was already peeing off very quickly um London is good it’s a big big big big city similar population size to New York um but it’s very International so off the women that I ended up
Dating throughout the time I of course met my wife in London she was from Peru um and I dated a lot of French girls some English girls Americans that also happened to be in London um Spanish Japanese
South Korean you name it even women from countries and bear in mind I’m very good at geography even countries that I never heard of but bear in mind I’m good at geography I not one of those Americans
Who who has never who thinks Africa is a [ __ ] country or something um I’m very good at geography but even countries I never heard of um they were there I even met a North Korean in London or so
She claims uh but There He Go um but since like do have some Australians with me I might as well ask this question uh what’s your take on drinking alcohol when doing night game and do you drink alcohol fight for it you’re Australians all right I’ll go a silence just told you
Everything everyone’s too drunk no I look the way I see it is uh alcohol is a tool that some guys might want to use when they’re gaming but if you’re going to you got to be very careful
How you are using it because the way I see it it can be performance enhancing like if you’re a very anxious nervous guy that has a lot of like [ __ ] uh social anxiety that is like limiting you then having some drinks removes some of the inhibition right so you can now maybe approach
A girl you can say some you were talking about filters before so maybe you’re running out of things to say you have a couple of drinks you get a bit of a buzz now that weird awkward thing that
You thought was too we an or now you just say it and maybe it’s funny or maybe it’s like confident or maybe it just Sparks the conversation so can be really good but the issue with that is guys
Usually don’t stop at two or three drinks or when they start feeling good they usually keep drinking and keep drinking so their game gets better but then it crashes and gets really bad and I see this in students where they’re having like fun conversation but now they’re just Rowdy
Okay now they’re like knocking drinks over they’re falling over themselves they’re saying like weird [ __ ] to girls and honestly it’s just [ __ ] disgusting like I I I don’t drink anymore um when I go out and like seeing people at clubs now like especially when I’m coaching and they just
It’s it looks awful so my advice to students is um try to get to the point where even having two drinks makes your game worse and what I mean by that is you should get to the point where you feel
So confident that your inhibitions are gone that drinking actually just makes you like a little bit more difficult to think or come up with a quick response or be a little bit more witty which is
I feel at the point I’m at I feel like I’m better without alcohol and uh so if you are that student that is having like [ __ ] 10 bees a night or some [ __ ] and you’re just getting drunk and
You’re Ry or you’re depending on it so it’s like you’re going out every night and you’re needing three or four drinks it’s really shitty for your health I think it’s human lab is suggesting like
No more than two drinks a week which is not many at all so yeah if you’re that guy start cutting it down if you’re having like eight B’s take it a seven do that for a week take it a six take it
Get it to the point only need one or two and then eventually if you want stop drinking um because yeah I think overall it is bad for your game I think overall um even if you’re the guy that manages to get leid that one night because you’re super drunk and you’re fun and
You’re like what happens when it’s the next date are you just going to get drunk around this girl again or the third date or the fourth date you just can’t become an alcoholic for the sake of
Women so yeah my advice would be cut the drinking get to the point where you’re not drinking at all don’t rely on it but I can understand for some guys how can help in the beginning stages yeah
That reminds me of uh when I was younger I used to have alcohol and energy drinks at the same time I would just pour some [ __ ] monster cans into a drink and add vodka to it or tequila or
Room whatever the [ __ ] it just go [ __ ] crazy that that was how I [ __ ] did it for a good few years lead to lialia little combination dangerous not yet hopefully um but I I did quit alcohol
Um what year is it now five years ago almost um last alcoholic drink I ever had was on my wedding day and of course it was a glass of champagne and for me the the mentality was okay that could very
Easily be my last ever one and I’ll be perfectly happy um and I come for from a bit of a drinking culture like I’m sure the rest of you do um and you know we uh I guess from my life or my my C
What my culture is like you can even it’s okay to have a little bit of alcohol when you’re like five years old that’s just something we do that’s why we end up a bit [ __ ] I guess but what the [ __ ]
Am I talking about um um but you know it’s such a societ huge thing in society but apparently uh there there were some stats showing that the trend is that people are more people are giving it up it
Is going down and more people are interested in silver dates um but yeah I just stopped alcohol completely um almost five years ago yeah right with with alcohol and students I always say don’t don’t need it and don’t don’t fear it manage it closely um it can be a little bit mentally
Stifling if you cut yourself off completely uh so if I’m coaching a student in Nik and he asked the question I say don’t don’t have your first drink until after 11:30 or closer to midnight so that
Way you don’t get carried away because yeah you can get a little bit sloppy I for one don’t drink anymore I would actually recommend drinking on dates you know pour two glasses of wine drink at the Afterparty drink in the end game stages of things but don’t don’t need it don’t don’t fear
It um it’s it’s super bad for you uh alt together it’s fun when you’re young it’s kind of formative some guys who are really really stifled it can be good to to drink to explore yourself when you’re
A little drunk to see what happens guys who are not good at going out but yeah just just take it lightly I like that don’t need it don’t fear it that’s really good that’s because that’s the thing
Yeah you can be one-sided just be like no I can’t touch it I mean when you’re doing like have you have you heard this phrase um it’s like ah forgot what it is like I I love it I love it so much
I could never get addicted like people who love alcohol so much they they respect it they’ll have like one or two drinks a week or whatever they love it so much they could never abuse it there’s
A a saying about it from Winston church but I forget sorry no no no no that’s per that’s perfect yeah I think I think when you know I’ve been in rooms where you’re with big big boy business guys
And you can’t not drink like they won’t allow you not to drink they’re like you’re drinking with us and that’s thing and because CU like in in places like Singapore they use that uh as part of the
Business transaction and so you you know because they they’re trying to get you drunk so that if you tell any any sort of um things that you slip up in any way or you’re a bit more different as
A personality so sometimes you you know when you said Don’t Fear it’s like you have to learn how to control yourself whilst being drunk too because in the rooms that I’ve been in you you you have
To you have to stay sharp even when you’re you know not exactly sharp so you get you get good at that I think uh yeah that’s perfect I’ve never heard it so well explained um don’t need it don’t
Fear it it’s a really that’s a really good way and I think too there’s other ways like um 50 Cent in his book uh um hustle hard hustle smart I think it is he talks about like for him he’s a rapper and
His and his CNAC brand is what his brand is right and um and same as Conor McGregor everyone thinks Conor McGregor is doing a lot of the drinking in when he’s pouring down his his proper proper um
Proper 12 a lot of the time it’s ginger ale they put in they have special bottles cuz 50 Cent was talking about when he would go to appearances his ginger ale would be in his bottle specifically so
When he’d be pouring it everyone to think it uh he’s not drinking because uh he knew that it was taking years off his life it would take years down the track when you’re 40 and 50 so he
Still wanted to be picking it when he’s 40 and 50 and be sharp and mentally there so there’s there’s a point where you have to kind of I guess grow up a little bit and like okay well I’m only going to
Drink when I celebrate or I’m only going to drink when it’s specific but the the occurrence I know me and Marcus have a friend um that that you know every time has now really dependent on it which
Is such a shame and we’ve definitely pushed him towards you know I I know I know uh Marcus you definitely have where it’s like uh you know to go out and date sober like push these people if you
Have these people around are you yourself you have to challenge yourself and that’s where that thing is like you know maybe you don’t need it maybe you can go out and start to explore the side of your
Personality cuz a lot of people that they drink then their personality is linked to a chemical release in their body so they can’t be jovial they can’t be uh you know a great one is Raj from Big
Bang Theory he he can’t speak to women and then he has alcohol and he’s the life of the party you don’t you don’t want that life because you know that allow that means that you’re going to have
To even when you’re a 75 you’re going to be like that you’re an old man and you can’t now talk to people because you need alcohol it’s like come on you got to grow up some sometime along the
Along the track so I definitely recommend um you know don’t need it don’t fear it also is is such a good thing oh such a good l yeah I just uh finished reading 50 cents book hustle harder
Hustle smarter fantastic isn’t it that was good very good uh Al righty um what’s a particularly funny story each of you can give that’s related to game maybe it could be a date that went horribly
Wrong or something weird that happened well I’ve got one for Alex I remember from back in the day God there so many millions of funny stories um I got to go after this question so I’ll try to put
In a good one and then I got to got to set off I’ve got seminars today far away Sam no no I was just remembering uh the story you told it was like some hot said about D bomb Oh which one about Dar
Bomb 100 stories about him like four different four different children to four different wives which which story about him at the hot scene oh it was something about it was the gymnastics or something like that and just his life I think you were telling back in that this is 2014 telling
This oh yeah my my wing my really good Wing like he was in the Swedish Olympic gymnastics team he got kicked out of it for being too drunk he partied he he he then moved in with some
Cheerleaders uh and he kicked out of his apartment he moved in with lesbian cheerleaders and every time he went to get a girl phone remember he had a photo of two naked girls sucking his dick um and
Then he could never get any girls phone numbers he didn’t know why so I was like [ __ ] it I don’t even take my phone to the club I tried to [ __ ] them uh yeah this guy’s he’s like an MMA
Champion he’s now in the Special Forces he has four children to four different women he’s he’s a good guy he’s a good friend of mine he’s a good guy there’s a a funny story but uh I have others
If if you want so you guys have a [ __ ] it goad you need to be more specific I you need to give it like a theme or a time frame or a place because all of us will have a million funny stories oh
[ __ ] it just just tell which whichever one is like one of the funniest [ __ ] it let’s go it’s a vague question because it’s there’s no limit to it it could really be anything I I
Can’t really come up with a theme I guess or I don’t know I’ve got one I’ve got here’s my my departure story for today and thanks for thanks for having me ice on the on the video today I
Have upcoming four-week natural events in P Del K in February New York in March and London in in April going into May uh coming up so check it out on forwe natural.com funny story when I was a for
Week natural coach I mean an RSD coach in about 2009 i’ beat a professional coach with them for two years and I still thought I still would struggle with this idea like am I enough am I
Good enough as a coach you know I’m speaking on a stage in front of like 250 people I’m like 24 years old and everyone’s like signing up to hear my content and but still internally I’m thinking
Like am I enough am I enough like am I a good enough coach anyway I finished a boot camp on a Sunday night and I was like Yay I’m free I’ve just done three boot camps in a row nine days of
Coaching I’m free so I was like let’s just go and have some fun I didn’t even think and I remember I went out and I I went out of the club with a couple of friends and we pulled a couple of
These like Russian American girls and they were all talking [ __ ] they’re like are you wealthy my dad has an apartment here I’m like cool show me cuz I want to like drink the beer out of that
Mini bar so we go upstairs we immediately start having sex with these three girls me and my me and my friends and then I finish I I finish having sex with my girl and I just run to the mini bar
Take all of the beers and run downstairs go meet my friends in a in a cafe I’m thinking oh that’s pretty good maybe I I am enough maybe go down to the cafe and a girl sits on my lap one of my
Friends I’m like [ __ ] this this Cafe is boring and then I find a girl in line and then I’m like hey do you want to go on an adventure so I take her by the hand and I drag her away from like
Eight Friends eight Asian American friends from like Los Angeles so if you know the Grand Lux Cafe in the Venetian I take her out of there away from eight friends and it’s only about 40 or 50
Meters and I take her past security show her my card and jeffy’s coming the other way and Jeffy sees what’s going on and he sees this like rabble of eight Asian-American girls screaming and crying behind us but this little girl like poah hont she like enited me she’s like where going on an
Adventure you’re lovely so we go up the elevator and Jeffy runs interference on this group of girls and holds them back scoty get these [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here like he has our friend so I go
Upstairs and I’m staying with this old German guy who’s just wearing his like g string thing I come into the room with this girl and he’s like hello I’m like don’t talk to me go to the bathroom and
Make sweet love to this girl it’s fine take her back downstairs to find the Las Vegas Police and [ __ ] Jeffy and all hell breaking loose give the girl back to the to the group sit down at the cafe
Girl sits on my lap and this is an Australian girl actually she’s like Alex it’s late I have to work tomorrow can we go upstairs I’m like okay so take her upstairs take her upstairs walk into the room
The German guy is still there with his [ __ ] G on hello oh Alex you have a new friend like shut up we go into the bathroom because I put the mattress in the bathroom and the girl’s like why is there
A mattress in the bathroom I’m like don’t worry don’t worry just go to sleep and then we we start making and I’m like no I don’t want to make love to you cuz I already had two this evening and so
I send her home I wake up in the morning they bang on the door and they’re like dude we have to record a [ __ ] podcast I’m like okay walking through the casino floor we find a couple of girls
We met the day before and we bring them to record the podcast me and Ryan and Brad and then we get too drunk during the podcast and then me and Ryan sleep with these two girls I’m like that’s that’s
Going pretty well and I’m thinking [ __ ] am I am I enough am I a good enough coach that’s like already four in the day have an NA go out at night and then we meet these two incredible
Austrian girls and I take Mya girl home we start hooking up this this girl was a ballerina she was really like top shelf and my friend brought the other girl to the room next door but then he had
To go to the airport then she knocks on the door she knocks on the door and she starts she’s like crying she’s like your friend ditched me he took me home and nothing he wouldn’t even make this
A move on me and then I’ve got the room to myself the German guy in the g string says goodbye Alex have fun with your friends he leaves and then I have the room to myself and the girls
Start hooking up and then we all have a magical threesome and I remember the point of the story I was lying there with these two Austrian ballerina girls they’re just stunning I’m like 24 they’re
Like 21 and I’m thinking [ __ ] is my game good am I a good am i g to be a good dating coach I’m like look [ __ ] like you just hooked up with six girls in a day from cold approach I think I think
I’m never going to feel like I’m good enough I think I just have to think there’s no reason I’m not enough um and that’s probably an idea I’m just going to have to live with for the rest of my
Life the funny thing about it is I still thought I was [ __ ] even though the results were like talking for themselves I remember Sam when I told Owen this the next day Owen like was in pain he’s
Like I wish I could have such a happy sex life I was and I just remember like walking these girls home the next morning I’m like why do I doubt why why do we all doubt our game all is going
To be okay just try to go with the flow there you go there’s a funny one for you that’s [ __ ] crazy what the hey you asked you asked on the topic of tall girls in the same in the same night Jeffy
Who’s 5 foot six was took home and slept with a wrestler a wrestling girl who was 7 fo three and we took all these photos like up to her hip it was [ __ ] hilarious he’s like nuzzling away going
Down on her going down on her vagina so there’s another funny story of a different type going down or going up because she was so [ __ ] YY he said he said her her feet come off the end of the
Bed and he was like crawling around down the end of the bed like navigating the vagina but even though she’s like a wrestling Warrior she still acts like a little girl so there’s a different
Variation a funny story from the same day in Vegas I I’m going to write a memoir eventually all the funny stories the funny things that students have done coming in their pants during program uh trying to take me home and have sex with me all kind of funny things happen on program
Wild yep oh Beyond wild I I love it I love this this life it’s TR think of a funny story from the last program there’s too many there’s too many you guys go I mean the the the biggest story I think the best story that people want to hear is how I
Got into RSD that was the interesting story where where I was like okay well you know there is a th you know Alex at the time you know how many people wanted to be an RSD instructor it was like the
Biggest thing in the world it was like M3 2014 I yeah for sure holy [ __ ] it was like the biggest thing and so I was like how do I plan this so what I did was I grabbed a credit card and I put I I
Booked the the Miami Summit and I booked the Miami boot camp with Tyler and Jeffy and I thought I’ll ask them a question if I can intern for them and so I was like all right so I racked it all up it
Was like it was like 12 Grand or some [ __ ] it was massive like oh man this sucks anyways so I so I fly over to Miami and you know I’m feeling nervous I don’t know what to say I don’t know
What I’m going to do anyway so so the first day I’ll tell you this the first day I get there and it’s like um it’s uh it’s Todd speaking and uh he starts playing he’s like all right guys here’s
Some infield that I’ve never done and I was so obsessed at the time that I was lipsyncing Todd’s infield and he was watching me in the front row just like freaking out just being like cuz I I
Remembered every line of his infield and he was just like what the like he he was a bit freaked out by that then uh then uh Tyler came on I was just in awe and that first night on boot camp I
Was like all right I got to make a good first impression so we’re in Miami we’re at like The Clevelander of all places a dingy place I’m like all right I got a good first impression it’s about
10:00 girls are ready to go home and I’m like perfect bring one back don’t do anything to her cuz I’m like I’m on a time schedule so I’m going to pretend like I did went back to the Clevelander
Uh we went to another place uh and I pulled a girl from there in front of them like I walked them out I was like this is this is amazing and then I went back we did Clevelander again or across the road
There was another like a bongo place the third one I think it’s called yeah yeah yeah that’s the one with all the Bongos I was like this is great this is fantastic the second day I’m like all right
I’m going to going to ask Owen for uh to be his assistant and you know we did some dayam game and I did ask him and he was like yeah yeah I’ll think about it yeah yeah absolutely so that night comes
Around we go to live and um and I was like this is not enough like I was starting to get really nervous I was start like oh it’s not going to happen [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] I spent all this money
And so I see this girl and and and uh Tyler is talking to this like Indian supermodel like she’s gorgeous we we later found out she was Miss India like she was gorgeous and I was like all right
This is my chance who’s she with uh her auntie that was about 50 and about 300 and I was like I was like this is it this this is my opportunity to do it so I was like all right wingman ship live
We’re in the second night I’m in Miami I love it so then I’ve proceeded to uh wingman Owen until he goes back to his hotel on the on like the the SLS or that like that Outlook and uh and
I’m like all right so they segregate and I’m with the auntie and then she starts making some moves I’m like oh God this is bad this is terrible so like I navigated away she starts kissing
The neck I’m like no no anyways it happened and then uh we we uh you know that that they came back thank Christ I gorlock the [ __ ] Destroyer Indian Auntie got away from her and then uh and
Then we we went to the hot tub uh the The Spar and chatted for like 7 hours till about 11:00 in the morning about life and he BR you and ow and the and the two ladies or just you and ow
The four of you just me and Owen yeah and uh from that that conversation yeah he he he uh he was like you’re you’re you’re amazing left didn’t say anything I was like this whole trip
Was a waste and then on a random Tuesday he’s like all right so you’re you’re in um you’re leaving on on Thursday I was like H so I had to like quit my job in a day and then uh fly over there and
That’s that’s that’s the story of how I got into RSD the first time but uh but it was wild it was some some some wild stuff and then sleeping on the floor for the next month and a half yeah taming
The Beast that is a good story I never heard that story good stuff Owen would certainly respect that did Owen actually hook up with the supermodel or did he mess it up no no no he he hooked up with
Her yeah I’m pretty sure good that’s how I got the G of it yeah well yeah alrighty bir U Marcus BR what story to tell yeah I was just thinking about this so the guys with toy dude there’s been
So many um I’ve had I’ve had like a fome where like three of the girls was trying to teach one of them how to suck dick it just became like a tutorial halfway through I’ve had girls where
Me and Alex um pulled two girls home [ __ ] them and then we meet up in the [ __ ] kitchen after we both [ __ ] and the way this pull happened essentially is that we were winging for students
Right so I was winging for one of the students I was with this brunette girl and then student [ __ ] up it was in the night Alex H and we pulled him both and I said to him I was like damn man I
Was like got to be honest bro like your girl’s my type I’m like it was like Swedish blong I’m like dude he looks at me he’s like bro he’s like your girl’s my type he’s like he prefers like the
You know bigger booty like more South American looking girls and [ __ ] and I was like dude [ __ ] I was like why didn’t we figure this out before we [ __ ] pulled and then I was like should
We should we just swap he’s like yeah all right so then I just walk into his girl’s room like all our room but the girl was in there and then he just walked into mine and we just swapped and then we
Ended up seeing these girls for like a month like where I were in Barcelona afterwards and we just like stayed swapped uh there’s been there was one time we had um a cuck fantasy right so this girl
Came over from Tinder and then said look I got to be honest cuz she wasn’t beforehand and she’s like I’ve got a boyfriend and I’m happy to like have sex with you but he needs to watch like through
FaceTime or some [ __ ] so I was like I was like okay but two of my friends are also going to join us then so like Alex and another friend we had at the time and so we end up like [ __ ] this
Girl the boyfriend’s watch I had a great time I’m like tell me your boyfriend’s a little [ __ ] and [ __ ] she’s saying it our internet Cuts right so this FaceTime call cuts so all the boyfriend sees
Is me talking [ __ ] about him and then the call ending and so he freaks out right so he ends up calling back afterwards we didn’t realize the girl’s like I’m so sorry I didn’t realize blah
Blah blah blah blah and um and so the guy is like freaking out and so the whole agreement was that like she was also recording the whole agreement was like this is going to be like deleted but
He’s freaking out and he’s like no you can’t delete that blah blah this [ __ ] so I end up like she’s crying I get on the phone I’m like let me just speak to him I get on the phone I’m like
Hey bro look we have to delete this footage you can’t keep it he’s like you can go [ __ ] yourself he’s [ __ ] no one else in the room could hear what this conversation was right so I was like
Oh thanks man um I’m really I’m really happy that you you know yeah it’s cool yeah we’ll delete it I’ll let her know it’s fine like I really app he’s like don’t you [ __ ] it I’m like thanks
So much I hang up and I’m like yeah he said you can delet it so she deletes his footage he calls back again so that was wild um dude uh what has been going on what I right down here once
We pulled these two girls um one was a virgin one was lesbian on my bed and so the Virgin was like I want to learn how to suck dick I’ve never done it before so I was like okay she sucks my dick
And then because I talked up like my sex game so much the lesbian girl was like do you mind just like eating me out she’s like I don’t like guys at all but you sound like really good at this so
Can like the most awkward asexual experience in my life because I ate out of girl that doesn’t like dudes and some virgin awkwardly suck my dick um but the last story I’ll share with you guys uh
Because this was on the top of my mind because I met these girls when was it it was like a week ago or not even it was like Phil day so oh yeah like six days ago um I I had a threesome with
These two girls all seeing and one was like very inexperienced very shy not into BDSM at all was like very like vanilla okay the other girl with is wild like super sub loves to be
Like beat up bruises like choked out wild so the reason I picked them for a threes Sim is they’re both South American I thought they get along funny enough they’re now best friends they live together
This was like threesim was like two three years ago and during the thre I start the sub I start like choking her out and just like slapping her across the face the other girl freaks the [ __ ]
Out she’s like whoa whoa whoa whoa she she grabs my hand and like tries to stop me then she turns the other girl she’s like do do you consent girl’s like yes what are you talking about so like the
Whole time during sex every time i’ like touch like or abuse like one of the girls the other one like kept checking in she’s like you sure this is okay you okay like you can let us know
If this is not okay so funny Teresa um but yeah there’s some crazy stories I’m sure there’s like a thousand more as Alex has mentioned but yeah it’s the uh the fun times that come with women
I think like honestly if I look back at like journey and game if you ask me like the most amazing incredible moments that I’ve had it’s never like oh this super hot girl that I [ __ ]
Or it’s never like oh my God this like [ __ ] five Sim or something with it it’s usually like an like these funny stories that you usually share with like the guys you’re going out with to be honest
Um it’s not very like uh like it’s not very DV I guess as a coach to be like all the funny stories are like this crazy [ __ ] happened with my boys but honestly it is like I think that’s a huge part
Of game just having fun with it you know yeah exactly uh I’ll just share uh perhaps one of mine I’m actually hold on man I gotta I gotta take it’s just on 10 10 amm now thank thanks again for
The call today and I look forward to it going up online Sam and Marcus I’ll probably see you around Sydney I’m here for the next four or five weeks so see you around I’ll be in touch thanks again I and
Good good you guys well you get some fireworks in the background that’s cool that’s awesome see you guys wait was that an effect what the hell yeah that’s just no no Sam lives in this really cool
Part of Sydney and yeah fireworks are [ __ ] off there all the time yeah it’s really I told marus I was like fireworks 10 firor yeah yeah of course of course you know you can see him the best there you
Know yeah I’m kind of jealous I wish I I live in the shitty pot of town K we don’t have fireworks in the background I’m sorry it’s just [ __ ] white wall mine has [ __ ] writing on it anyway uh let
Hear your story oh yeah so I’m just going to share one because actually um in the second edition of the book I’m working on I’m trying to include at least one funny story or unfortunate story uh so I
Don’t want to give too many weight there are a few that were mentioned in the book such as the puke story where um I pulled an African well I took an African woman to a Nigerian she was Nigerian to a
Nigerian restaurant we ate Nigerian food and I puked on the plate but I still pulled her that that’s a pretty well-known one but uh one that I haven’t necessarily put out there I guess is this
Was from a very long time ago when I was much younger before I knew anything about game uh I had a girlfriend we were together for a little ball and um we broke up and we were before we
Broke up we were planning a camping trip with some friends in our Social Circle and uh just out in the the woods I guess and uh suddenly we broke up so there was a problem I really [ __ ]
Love camping so I was like I am determined to [ __ ] go to this I don’t give [ __ ] so my ex-girlfriend freshly broken up decided to pull out of it and I was like [ __ ] yeah we’re
I’m going camping regardless anyway um but I had three days since the day we broke up to rearrange the plans because originally the plan was for me to share a tent with my girlfriend but okay
No longer um together so instead I came up well not I didn’t come up with but I used my message game skills before I knew anything about game uh to get with her best friend and three days later
Uh her best friend comes to my place and we do some preparations like whatever that means I can barely [ __ ] remember so long ago but we hang out for a little bit before we actually go camping and
Uh there were going to be six of us in total uh this Su G who who’s the best friend of my recently exgirlfriend um was supposed to be staying in a tent paired up with a guy who was interested in
Her uh but last minute I convinced her to pair up with me and it I did not have my own tent uh but when it came to the the trip itself there were six of us and two people per tent and I ended up uh
Going in the guy’s tent who was interested in and he had to pair up with the nerdy guy instead and next to our tent listen to us from approximately 11 uh p.m. until 3:30 in the morning no 4:20 in
The morning uh or something like that you you made that guy cuck he’s massive cuck so basically long story short I [ __ ] her in his tent while he was next to us in another tent just like two meters
Away um for four and a half hours and that was the longest time I ever had sex and this was in in the mood of like [ __ ] nowhere so the ground was not soft it was very hard on my knees but when I say
Four and a half hours I’m I’m pretty serious I I stopped for one minute for a quick Pepsi break and that is officially the last time I ever drank Pepsi similar to like my uh alcohol Story how
I don’t drink alcohol anymore that was the moment I gave up Pepsi uh so so that’s just a random one but that was from like before a game um and she was uh best friend so she became my girlfriend
Instantly but anyway in the morning um this is more like a teenage story I guess for for those listening because this is like my early days um in the morning everyone wakes up socializes and of
Course none of us have mirrors so I’m completely oblivious to the fact that I have hickeys all over me and everyone just [ __ ] knows what’s going on but it’s just so awkward for everyone else
Well apart from uh the woman who was staying in the other tent um but yeah that that’s uh an old school one from my early days but uh yeah she became my girlfriend for a short while and then
We broke up uh but yeah any any other stories you guys want to sh maybe one more and we can move on to the next question me there’s always I’ll do it yeah um what is the story marus you go you
Go go I’m trying to think of one now um oh no bro [ __ ] I got too many any other questions you got AR um or or Sam did you want to see some no no no continue yeah no you’re good next one yeah we’ve
Had stories people know my stories and look it up all righty uh what are some poor mindsets uh guys have that prevent them uh from making progress in game no assumed attraction no assumed familiarity
No mindset they’re the big three that that guys I know that Stuffle with it that’s why I teach it it’s like assumed familiarity is a big one like he can go up and just start talking to someone
As if you’ve known him for years really really good thing to do because they’ll fall into that frame same with assume attraction most guys are thinking oh does she like me does she not not
Like me just assuming that she does you’re going to act in such a much better way and uh you’re going to either find the ladder it’s like it’s like she doesn’t like you or she does like you
She’s going to fall into that frame it’s like when guys think about like um you know uh you know they don’t want bad things to happen it’s just like think of the the best case scenario
A lot of the time and the abundance mindset is like it’s always you’ll find that the guys that are winging the were guys that are complaining the guys are not getting results it’s usually due to the fact that they’re in a scarcity mindset and they just think that there’s a finite amount of
Everything they’ll never find that girl again or they’ll never have that opportunity again and it’s like at the end of the day even when you if you have that girl that you miss and you
Like and you’re like oh she was the one 6 months down the track you forget about her and there’s a girl twice as good so yeah they’re the three assume familiarity assume attraction abundance mindset yeah I’d add to that I think the biggest thing when it comes to development and learning
A skill is uh growth mindset there’s a lot of articles on this I think there’s even a book on this growth mindset so if anyone’s curious you can go check those out but essentially you
Need to be bor in to the idea that learning to be good with women is a skill that you can learn and develop and that’s like the number one thing if you’re bought into that idea that and I see this
In my students too it’s the guys that say you know we talked about being short before it’s the guys that say I’m too short it’s the guys that say I’m Indian it’s the guys that say I’m too old
All that [ __ ] removes that idea of growth and moves that idea of like oh I can learn this I can be better at this I can have an impact on these results because otherwise you’re just a
Victim to it we see this in red pill guys we see this in black pill guys we see this in a lot of inels where they just Reserve themselves to the fact that I’m not the type of guy that gets laid
They try to find any evidence they can to support that and guess what you will never get laid with that attitude so the first thing is really come to the understanding and you might need some evidence
Behind this you might need to find some guys that I think Sam um o mentioned this in the call where look find some guys with your limitations and you know see what they’re doing see if they can get
Laid and look if you want to look at the science if you want to look at the data you can as well we spoke about this with you know hi there are guys that are short that are getting laid um now yes if
You ask a girl on Tinder who would they prefer of course they’re going to prefer the taller guy but that doesn’t tell you anything right it doesn’t tell you anything about the actual situation so yeah doubling down on that growth mindset is going to be super important and then the second
Thing that prevents people from progressing is not reflecting so the other issue is you have a guy going out doing the exact same thing every single night it’s the most dangerous when you’re actually a half decent okay the the guys that are half decent that are actually getting laate
Every now and again suffer from this the most because they get to a point where they’re like oh this kind of works and they know when they try something new they get worse in the beginning so
They get comfortable they sit in this range of like I get late every now and again maybe I have to use Tinder maybe it’s every now and a cold approach like whatever it’s fine but I get late every now and again and they get stuck and they just plateau and that’s another big
Issue so if you’re not like reflecting um if you’re not comparing to how you results were a month ago or last year and you keep actively thinking what can I try to implement what can
I change what can I learn from this um is a big one and number three um that prevents people from making progress is not investing in themselves so that is making it a priority in terms of your
Time but also like getting coaching it’s a huge thing if I could go back and change one thing I had this growth mindset I was reflecting on my sets if I could find someone half decent that
Could like guide me through that first year where I was going out and couldn’t even [ __ ] approach for like I don’t know how many months if I just had someone to guide me through that a little bit
If I had someone to just tell me like okay yo when you go for the pool and the girl’s like I don’t know maybe like take that as a [ __ ] yes and move it forward it didn’t even have
To be like amazing Advanced like incredible game which now I teach uh is I I just needed that in the first year so yeah finding someone um that you can invest in to help you like shortcut
Everything is another way to improve you grow so that would be uh my three ATT to Sams yeah Fant mentorship oh massive like you said Mark it’s massive just getting someone just osmosis just learning from them like you know you’ll take one or two things from them three things and then
They’ll just snowball true yeah that that’s like uh am I oh yeah my microphone’s on yeah that’s like uh kind of why we do these uh dating coach panels we can take ideas from every single coach and even combine them take sources of in pieces of information and use that as inspiration to
Even come up with your own um style of game let’s say yeah 100% no you’re exactly correct because usually there there’s like if you think about it if we think about like the characteristics
Of like life and and being good with women there would be a a if we we merged everything if you got all the data there would be a Common Thread among everything there’d be commonalities among everybody where the idea it’s like okay well you know the commonality now is most people understand
That your photos your your your Instagram has to be good your your your dating profiles have to be good if you want to use that funnel the idea that you have to if you want to change your
Dating life you have to do it yourself like you have to you can’t wait for anyone else to do it so it would be super interesting to collect every bit of data on it and you would find
That there would be aric and there would be like 15 to 20 of the exact same things across the board that people would agree on and that’s just like the stock stand and stuff because it works um next question this is a spontaneous one but um Sam you know Sterling Cooper right
Yeah we were supposed to catch up last week yeah um I was gonna say and Marcus you’re a sex coach I was watching just a short clip of Sterling saying something about um some sex advice basically and he was talking about um Comm communicating to a woman instead of saying do you
Like that and you know that’s that’s a shitty thing to say during sex he has this rule where you can only uh or she can only say four words in terms of where to direct it it was something like
Faster slower harder softer something like that and that was in terms of I’m not sure if that was in terms of intercourse itself or if it was another sexually related thing God forbid uh what
The [ __ ] talking about um do you guys have any sex advice I don’t know too much about what you do Marcus in terms of that and uh what you have on this s yeah so in in terms of when it comes to
Communication uh what he might have been talking about I haven’t seen it but something I encourage is guys to do what I call like alignment sessions so if you’re seeing it’s probably another best to
Run on like a Tinder date or some [ __ ] but say you’re s a girl it’s a [ __ ] buddy or it’s your girlfriend you’re um get to a point where let’s let’s take eating her out right you’re going
Down on the girl and maybe you notice that she squeezes her legs together at some point during this process and you might think based on my experience that means oh it’s a little bit too sensitive and maybe I need a slow down okay that could be your preconceived idea or maybe she like
Grabs your hair and like pulls it down and you’re like oh [ __ ] okay I know that probably means she wants me to go a little bit harder and faster right or you have girls that like start grimacing
And it’s like hang on [ __ ] is that like a positive thing or a negative thing so there might be some behaviors that like fairly obvious you can pick up on and there’s going to be other behaviors you’re not quite sure and so having like an alignment session is a way where you
Can keep your Authority when you not like oh babe um I don’t know what I’m doing can you like just like tell me what to do or some [ __ ] because girls find that super unattractive so the frame
You can set is call it like an alignment session it sounds very Like official okay it sounds like you have some experience here and I’ll tell her girl I’m like hey look let’s have an alignment session okay so basically what this is and I called an alignment there’s a sex therapist um
I’m going to forget her name um but she came up with a very similar thing where it’s like five minute sessions where your partner touches you where you want to be touched blah blah blah so the alignment session is essentially I tell the go let’s do an alignment session I’m going
To eat you out for the next 5 minutes every like 30 seconds I just want you to tell me similar to what Cooper might have said which is like Harder Faster slower up down left right you you give me
A direction or just keep going the reason you add just keep going is because sometimes if you like just tell me every 30 seconds the girl falls back into a normal habits of like [ __ ] I
Don’t want to say anything I I don’t want to like I’m used to if I tell a guy what to do during sex he gets very like upset and defensive and blah blah blah so now she’s forced to say something
So even if she’s saying keep going keep going and then at one point she’s going to be more inclined then to be like a little higher and now what this allows you to do is not just okay for one session
You’re just going to do exactly what she says it’s you start aligning what she’s saying to her body language so now when you notice her legs start to like quiver or like tighten up does that mean she
Wants you to go faster or slower because in that moment she’s probably going to be like Slow Down slow down right you’re like oh holy [ __ ] this whole time I thought she was getting close when she was squeezing your thighs and I kept going harder what actually means is a little bit too
Sensitive so I know that for her and so now you start picking up on all these body language cues that you can start implementing now when it comes to communication if I’m Rand too much let me know but when it comes to communication during sex that is the biggest determin of like
How sex is going to be how good it is going to be because if you could read the girl’s mind and know exactly what she wanted You’ be sex god right we all would be so now we need to find
A way where she can communicate what she wants without losing that idea of like dominance and submission without losing the whole like I just want to be told what to do I just want to be that
Like submissive person that doesn’t have to think or wor and I can just be in my body okay so how do we find that balance it’s going to be through dirty talk so that’s why I encourage all my
Students to dirty talk from the minute you take the girl’s clothes off damn girl oh my God your ass is so [ __ ] hot right now oh my you have no idea what I want to do to you right you start with
That you lie down you start massaging whatever you’re doing you continue this dirty talk now okay when you’re not exactly sure what she likes or if she’s going to enjoy it or you know what
It is you can just ask her but instead of being like babe um is that okay uh do you like that no now you can use Dirty Talk hey you [ __ ] like that don’t you now if the girl’s like yeah it’s
Probably a no okay but if she’s like yes keep going oh my God [ __ ] me then it’s probably a yes right so you can start using that and then you encourage feedback so if a girl does say
Oh that’s a bit sore or um hey I like that what whatever feedback she a little higher I always tell her how sexy it is right I’m like I love it when you know what you want [ __ ] that turns me
On because now she’s going to be encouraged if she’s like a little higher and you’re like what do you mean and she’s like just you’re like okay fine then and you act like a [ __ ] little [ __ ] right she’s never going to give feedback on that so yeah communication is massive you
Can have alignment sessions encourage feedback super important it’s going to make you get in bed that was fantastic how can I how can I follow up on anything with the sex SC down [Laughter] below I I um this is just C caving on what he said there there was one thing that I
That I realized that with all the girls that I’d been with one of the common traits is when like uh they had had intercourse with other people one of the things when they would say oh keep going
Or keep going or or oh yeah just there in a man’s brain they would automatically go faster for not like it was just like a a response right and and the girls when when you really like Vibe it out
You you you have multiple experiences it was just the the same tempo they wanted not let’s just rat it up to 140 beats per minute right just like jack cracker right so what I noticed was like anytime
You hear that I would just make a conscious effort of like keeping the same Rhythm a lot of the time you know just in in Sex and and and understanding that you’re energetic being so if you can match
Each other’s Rhythm there then you’re going to create like a bit of like almost like an energy Vortex and that’s what gets a lot of girls off that I found um but again I I whatever what what
Marcus just said then was was you know mindblowing yeah guy guys get way too excited too quickly and they go way too fast like one of the first everyone give you yourself this feedback right
Now because I guarantee for 99% of your [ __ ] is going to be correct is just slow the [ __ ] down okay if you’re eating a girl out guess what half the speed if you’re making out with a girl half
The speed if you’re [ __ ] a girl slow down like so true and this is one of the biggest complaints of women exactly that which is oh my God keep going exactly like that and guys get excited
And they’re [ __ ] right and then either the guy comes or the girl gets too sensitive and then the girl gets sensitive like this and the guy’s like oh yeah I made her come it’s like no bro she’s got to be sensitive so uh yeah completely true yeah be super careful of that communication
During sex I think a lot of a lot a lot of people are missing out on that the importance of it and just like just imagine having a relationship or even being married to someone and for decades
You just don’t um calibrate to each other in that way or uh synchronize let’s say that that’s uh a huge Miss I think a lot of guys I wouldn’t know I haven’t watched people but uh I imagine I I think
One of the big biggest things is that people don’t realize that you know they they do the game and and this is what you know I came to Epiphany with a long time ago which was like when you’re having
Sex with a girl you’re still in the development of the relationship like it’s still frame controlling it’s still putting them into their feminine it’s still it it goes past the sex into how you communicate so if you’re like oh baby does that feel good does it feel all right like acting like
A little beta [ __ ] boy that is still going to be translated into how you communicate in 4 hours 5 hours time so one of the things that I I fell into and this is a this is a really good thing was I
Was a over pleaser this was a really interesting trait like I would go above and beyond for the girl and give her this like crazy experience without forgetting that the investment from the girl is also mandatory having her do stuff to me is very good so this is where you know a lot
Of guys you know we will say like they they come too quick they care but then you got the other uh part which was me which was super over investment I would be massaging I’d be teasing I’d be eating
Them out to be [ __ ] them right and then uh you know because that was my style but there was no investment from the girl and so when there was no investment it was just like this crazy fantasy
Experience from her and then it would translate into uh the relationship where cuz I’ve done all this she expects all this other stuff to be done so it’s like it’s like mutually exclusive like it’s not Mich you can’t have one without the other so even in the relationship understanding the back
And flow the es and flows the dance it’s a dance so like you know get her to do stuff on you too as well don’t don’t think it’s just one-sided where you’re just doing everything on the girl because
You know I know I know like I would always think I’m like if you’ve ever heard the classic story of lard DiCaprio where he you know goes to the Skylight and [ __ ] him with headphones on on
MDMA just does everything he wants a lot of the girls will explain that that was like some of the crazy experiences they had and it it’s in the Dynamics of the relationship that’s why so when I was too invested it would hamper the relationship so it’s just like understanding the es and flows
Of it the the the you know getting her to do stuff on you you can communicate to her too that’s also hot too if she doesn’t take it too personally some girls get a little bit offended by that so if you
You know you have that Mark what was that that period C the five minute where you like do to each other yeah linan sessions line session yeah when it comes to like the first night um yeah like
Understanding what she wants in a fantasy is super important there are some girls that are like yo I love to please I love to suck dick oh my God and so if you’re not giving her that experience
Like if you are because I’m very similar like I I get off when I see girls like getting off right I really enjoy I didn’t even get like to be honest I don’t really care if girl sucks my
Di or not right I’d rather [ __ ] tire up and destroy it but if I have a girl that’s like yo I really love to give I really love to suck dick guess what she’s gonna be suuck in my dick um but
What you said’s important Sam which is you need to make sure everything comes um from a place where you’re not feeling like you’re just oh my God I’m trying to please you I’m trying to like
Oh is everything okay and this can come even like after sex so say you like do have that experience where you do everything go you go down you do it like well whatever she wants you did and blah blah
Blah you can just counterbalance out really easily but after sex you just lie there and don’t talk to her right sounds crazy but like you’ve just given her like this amazing experience now you just lie
There and don’t [ __ ] talk and she’s used to guys do doing what she’s used to guys like cuddling her telling her oh that was amazing babe hey when are you free this week let’s meet up soon you
Just lay there and now she’s like hang on like was this not good for him like I just had all these orgas I just had an incredible time holy [ __ ] like why is he not talking to me she’s
Going to be like hey is everything okay yeah yeah I’m chill yeah everything’s good she’s gonna like try cuddle you now and like then she’s going to be like so um do you want to like hang out again
You’re like yeah maybe yeah I’ll check my schedule like and so now she’s chasing like right away even though you’ve done all this crazy [ __ ] for her you can just like pull back a little bit or at
Least like not be you know credibly like needy or some [ __ ] after that which was used to be my problem right um so yeah it’s a really good point you always like sex is Sam is a part of
Like the whole dynamic so if you need to balance some [ __ ] out then balance it out yeah I like that very interesting um where do you meet most of the women you date is it Day game night game
Message games such as Tinder and Instagram or in other ways um where do I meet most of my girls it depends where I am to be fair um so if I like just get to a city it’s almost exclusively going
To be like cold approach with a little bit of texting um at the moment like now that I’m in Sydney or if I’m in at city for a longer time it’s usually going to be like recommendations
Or like Social Circle so it’s uh it’s going to be like part of is going to go into friends or friends it’s going to be girls I’m sleeping with me sending over with their friends things like
That uh with a mix again of like cold approach and texting but it’s just going to be a function of like how long I’m in a place because I tend to travel around a bit um so yeah if I’m traveling
Around or rely on Tinder and cold approach if I’m in a city for more than a month usually it’s going to be like referrals Social Circle yeah very much events and Social Circle at this point and and uh
I created a little system it’s kind of like a um uh Tinder Bumble hinged to Instagram so Instagram would be a big one for me as well being able to message girls cold leads being able to facilitate
A a connection and a date from that is really a pivotal skill that I’ve developed the last couple years so just just improving your Instagram is is where I do a lot of my stuff and events like you
Know again we went you know Marcus we were you new EVE girls that night so it’s like it’s event plus Social Circle Plus Cold like it’s everything isn’t it the mixture of everything yeah CU we we
Basically had like a table there right so we have a table with like I don’t know how many girls we had at that [ __ ] place but you know like 10 15 girls at our table uh and we’re all chilling and
Then I think you pulled that night Sam right so Sam basically went off gamed um him and his mate brought girls like back to our table and it just looks good you walk into two girls and like girls
Everywhere they’re saying hi like d it’s like so yeah I mean the that’s the other thing I think people [ __ ] up with when it comes to like Social Circle pre-selection is they’re constantly trying
To like find goals within that social like you can use it to your advantage like you can just go out to a [ __ ] bar and then suddenly you appear like maybe one of the most [ __ ] popular guys in the
[ __ ] room because you around 10 girls that are hot yeah and you have that that social proof too or that pre-selection you got these two girls you might even not even go home with these girls but
You got the girls at the booth that are then going to go later on tonight so it’s like this mixture that’s what that’s what Social Circle really lacks and that’s what a lot of guys you know that’s why
I really try to like get that down pat because it’s like you’re not doing social C to become like a famous dude you can do that it’s a byproduct the idea of the the whole idea was to get around more
Exclusive high value girls so you ended up having sex with them that was the whole idea it wasn’t this idea that you just became like you know buddy buddy Chum Chums with them which is cool again you
Can have female friends that really do help you out but way the way a lot of Social Circle guys um and you know that they they get into it and then they end up just falling for the Trap of
Just the golden handcuffs which is being around these hot girls and they think that they’re doing better but they’re not they’re actually like doing if not worse than they would at Cold approach so
It’s kind of like this idea you have to balance it out of being like you know it it’s a jack of all trades you have to be a good skill you have to learn how to talk you learn how to cold approach
Learn how to build a social network you got to learn how to you know use other different funnels dating apps you got a Instagram it’s like we’re in we’re in a different age nowadays back in 2014
2015 we could say one one does all one does all but doesn’t anymore where we’re you’re competing against guys that are multi-millionaires with multiple Millions followers on Instagram like that’s who you’re competing against with so it doesn’t mean that you’re directly competing
Against with them but they’re in the DMS of your girls so sometimes when you’re in person that’s going to be a fantastic way to be able to connect with these people so your online online space is
Not going to work sometimes you’re you’re uh in person there’s just B bigger people in the area and you’re going to have to compete with that so it’s it’s just a it’s a it’s an act of doing
Getting everything up getting all your value up it’s like there’s no one one size fits all anymore I I believe there there’s no one size fits all there’s just everything get get your status up get your get your social media up get your cold approach up get your Social Circle up
Get everything up all righty um do you guys do much content these days ah should be doing more content these days is the answer um yeah I’m I’m listen I’m trying okay I’m doing my best over here
I’m trying to do a YouTube video a week in terms of content so if people want to check that out they can uh but yeah I’m usually caught up in The Mastermind so we we have like a paid subscription
Model um like private group and so most of my time is spent in there and then also doing like some one-on-one coaching online and then also obviously our boot camps so it’s I’m trying to figure out the balance still um because when we’re running like this last year I I basically
Just stopped I’m doing content on on YouTube and [ __ ] like that because I just busy with like our paid clients but um I really enjoy doing like the free content so um yeah this one of my goals 2024
Is uh yeah really sticking to at least like one video a week and uh pumping that out so that’s that’s the plan anyway we’ll see how that goes all right so actually um the way it works for me I had
The same kind of problem because I was living in Peru and I’m living in London now so my time zone is not lined up with everyone in USA Canada and so on um so because of my time zone being four to
Eight hours um ahead of Canada and USA and eastern most and Western most um the solution I found is I tend to do videos like this collaboration videos at least from 900 p.m. now this is exclusive to my
Times Zone um but for me all the work for um the rest of the day has already being done and then the content is at the end of the day but there’s no specific day it’s just whenever anyone’s
Available and then I do video editing every Tuesday all Tuesday so it’s very simplified in terms of there’s a set day for the editing itself but when when it comes to content I can just pick whatever day from 9900 p.m onwards because I’m that’s just after my dinner anyway so I have
It pretty simplified but maybe you can find some kind of balance like that why you you editing your own videos yeah it it’s it’s not that bad when you’re so used to it but I understand that a lot
Even Mr Beast for example uh really didn’t want to give that up but obviously other people edit his videos um yeah I do it all myself I mean you can you can double double out your input so for
Me um I I’m I’m a bit different than you guys I’m putting uh putting as much content out as physically possible so you know from from Twitter you’ll see me anywhere from TW 20 20 to 50 times
A day on on Twitter I’m tweeting yeah like I’m recording a video every day so I have my you make it as as you know Atomic habits you make it as simple as possible so for me I’m up to my fourth
Or fifth version of my my mentorship course so I make it more refined every each and every every year I make it more refined uh for me I’m putting a Instagram reel out every day on on both on on
My my personal Instagram not personal Instagram my my uh business Instagram every day I’m putting out a YouTube short every day I’m putting out uh LinkedIn uh and then I just started incorporating
Snapchat and Tik Tok again uh Tik Tok obviously I ran that bag up to 200k so I kind of know the process but I’m also a bit shadowbanned still to this day which is a bit weird but uh Snapchat’s
The latest one I’ve got into which is kind of you know getting into the creative funnel within Snapchat is going to be very very much beneficial and then short it down to as short as possible
Without me doing it so hiring out editor so I have a full-time editor right now which is really really good but for me um a lot of the time it comes from different things so it’s like okay you
Want to you want to create a lot of Twitter things it’s like well what what is a tweet it’s written words so every day I’m journaling so all my tweets come from my journals uh when I’m recording a
Video I’ll record either a podcast I’ll record a a video for YouTube I’ll record something um that’s how I that’s how I kind of get my content now I also do within my mentorship I do three calls live
Calls a week um so they can go anywhere between an hour to three hours from there I send it to the editor so the editor’s got 9 to 12 hours per per week to scrape anything he wants from there so
These are these are kind of kind of the ways it’s like um so I’ve gone for the like almost like the jack knife approach like as much content as physic possible the way that I’m going to change in 2024
Is a lot more premium content so instead of just sitting in the camera it’s more these like oneoff spur of the moments inspirational and try to hit the demographic a little bit differently so you know we live in such an attention economy that you have to kind of teach your audience how to
Actually watch your videos you can’t just keep putting 15-second videos out or 3our videos out as we’ve known from massive companies that have put 3our videos out that no one really watches anymore so you kind of have to teach them so that you know anywhere between 4 to 12 minutes is just
That Prime spot for YouTube and then you got to find out what platform are you resonating with both because the same the same content you put on Twitter it can’t be the same content on YouTube because everyone is at a different IQ level so everyone’s going to resonate you know usually you
Have to take a bit of content with someone and they have to watch it they have to break their Paradigm and then lift them up a level that’s going to be different on Tik Tok versus YouTube
So on Tik Tok you’re going to get someone that’s like a below average IQ that hasn’t had their prefrontal cortex even dropped right they they’re 18y old or 16y old that just wants to get better
So their their IQ level is just like how to talk to women here’s four steps right that’s kind of good but when you go on a YouTube or Twitter you you can get that content but you’re not going to
Develop an audience so you got to go a little bit High Q instead of being like your your Paradigm shifter can be all right so you can’t do canned lines you got to go more natural the reason why
Here is the natural so it’s a much higher IQ thing and then you got Twitter which is this is how you systematically fundamentally break down how to talk to high value guys you’re going to hit
These three pillars CU it’s on a much higher IQ so these are the ways that content works and so when you really understand it you think it’s like oh I’m just putting it out but you got to you got
To think like how are they consuming it how are they integrating into their life how are they watching it what am I teaching them and and that’s how you build the audience so you’re going to see
Um a lot more different stuff for me you know for me it’s a more of a lifestyle stuff and all these lifestyle guys aren’t teaching lifestyle it’s like [ __ ] show your lifestyle so I’m like oh okay so
This year I’m going on a massive lifestyle kind of binge terms of showing everything and documenting as much as possible oh very very nice answer there so the way I’m doing it is uh since May 2023 less
Than a year ago um I started really making lots of uh YouTube shorts and I started posting I don’t know maybe one per day or it got to one per day um pretty quickly and then after a few months uh
I be began uh having such an excess of content for YouTube shorts specific spefically that I started doing two per day so we’re at two per day now and in the last few days I’m now at two to
Three per day so it’s it’s going up and up and up and [ __ ] it even even like uh back in September a few months ago or even before that I had shorts lined up every day for [ __ ] months so I was like
You know I I might as well just up it to two and because uh obviously the timeline I’m producing way too much compared to yeah the YouTube short scheduler that’s that’s a hack I definitely recomend that yeah it’s beautiful and um pretty quickly our YouTube channel doubled in subscribers
Within a few weeks and the views reached 1 million we went to 5,000 subscribers but now as of uh just under a month ago I think I started I was like now that I have Instagram reals are the same
As YouTube shorts or the same as Tik Tok whatever videos um so I realized well I I already realized it but I figured even though I don’t really give much of a [ __ ] about Instagram I might as well
Take some of the most successful YouTube shorts in terms of stats and post one per week on Instagram and I have done that four weeks in a row now and my third one got more than a million views and
Normally I get like a few hundred views or a few thousand views most I ever get before that was 10,000 views or just under um on Instagram and I never really posted much on Instagram anyway
Especially in the last few years um definitely not videos at least um but yeah just two weeks ago 1 million views and that only took five days I think or six days to reach 1 million when I I posted it
Um on because I attend to do it on Wednesdays and then uh that was in the afternoon I I woke up and there were suddenly like a 100,000 views I was like what the [ __ ] and then it [ __ ] going
Kept [ __ ] going and now it just says like 1.1 million I don’t know how much it’s doing every single day but that was super Rec so yeah my in terms of scheduling on YouTube YouTube shorts two
To three per day we’re at now uh that’s just mine keep in mind it’s a sheer Channel but the other guys aren’t really uploading much anyway um so the vast majority is mine and then I take some of that
Post one per week and this only started a month ago on Instagram I should up that super soon um and your sorry guys is what shared shared oh yes so game Global is me and Kieran [ __ ] and Joe
Elvin um but over the last few years it’s like I it wasn’t until just one one year and one week ago was when I really started making content because before that I was really only doing like four
Videos a year maybe I’m [ __ ] serious um but the other guys were also making videos um but because everyone was like the other two guys especially travel a lot they don’t have this particular schedule they have like on Seasons off Seasons stuff like that but I really dedicated myself to
It just over a year ago because I realized um my wife just had a diagnosis of a brain tumor and she was going through brain surgery and when that brain surgery was happening which was 8 or
12 hours long um I was interviewing Michael sartin and R tamasi and it was my first time interacting with r tamasi and that in that moment I decided I need to make videos every single [ __ ] week or
Something like that um so 2023 I really [ __ ] put the pet all to the metal and um made content every single week published content on YouTube every single week apart from one week that I missed
And now we’re post I’m posting uh one normal video per day but most of these are clips from the other panels um and I didn’t make any new content in December and that was the only month I didn’t
Make new content but we were still posting lots of stuff and we’re getting hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube alone every month I just hope my Instagram can consistently give me Millions more uh because I just posted like Tinder statistics uh yesterday I think so I was like give me a million
Views on this one because this will [ __ ] make me Rich uh for this specific video because it’s related to um the AI that I created uh because the AI can notify you of when tinder’s best day of the
Year is and by the way that’s because you guys are in Australia that’s happening right now 7 January first Sunday of the year but anyway yeah um just like me and Sam are saying you really just got
To make the time for it put it on your calendar Google Calendar as I say and uh the rest will follow it’s a process it’s a habit yeah I mean you got to embrace the hate that’s the kind of thing
There’s two two metrics that I’ll give um your 5,000 video your 5 a video that gets 5,000 views or a, views is more impactful for your business than a million views I got told by a Tik Tock or
That and the idea is that those thousand views are usually going to be your audience rather than the million views it’s going to be so many more people that have never seen you so the idea of like when
A when a person finds you then versus a person buys from you is like usually like for me it’s like a two-month period so the more times they can get like you know that that they get the videos on
Their system it’s actually the lower lower viewed videos rather than the higher viewed videos which is kind of crazy but you also need those Discovery videos that are viral at the same time yeah that
Does make sense yeah um the video that I did post that got a million views um was just a clip of Russ Jeff I wasn’t in the video we did a video with Russ Jeff analyzing this clip um but in that
Particular short um or real I was not in it so it didn’t really out towards anything so I I kind of would have expected that anyway but that’s why I’m hoping I want a million videos on uh a million
Views on this one because this one there’s a CTA and everything and there’s me all that stuff yeah 100% it’s like that that would be great but yeah definitely makes sense um anything you guys want
To talk about oh man nothing might uh might head off now actually yeah I’m going to wrap it up in the next 10 minutes anyway since that would Mark free hours but uh if you guys are up for one more
Question then we can do that of course yeah what are some okay I’ll merge two questions here what are some Concepts in the pickup community that people get completely wrong and um yeah what what are some of the most common mistakes you see guys make in the game yeah um Concepts people get
Wrong I mean the most common one um that you see by like The Wider Community or medor is going to be along the lines of neing or like manipulating I think that’s something a lot of people get wrong
And probably like Within game a lot of guys get probably negging wrong it comes from this like really butt hurt place um and similar to that probably prize framing is the second biggest thing that I see guys at a learning game get wrong is they convince themselves or really they don’t
Convince themselves they lie to themselves that I’m good enough to get any girl right and I’m better than any [ __ ] girl and by the way they’re wrong okay you’re probably can’t get any girl and you’re probably not better than half the girls out there just to be honest like the average guy right
That’s not the case um and so it’s important to be like realistic a little bit here with your mindsets and the uh the thoughts that you’re trying to tell yourself because something we’ve found when it comes to this idea of okay I’ll just have these little phrases that I’ll tell
Myself over and over if you don’t actually believe them it doesn’t help it actually makes it worse because every time you tell yourself I can get any go I want what’s really happening is you’re
Lying to yourself and then the other side of your brain is being like no you can’t dig okay there’s no way you can get any go you want and that’s what’s really uh subconsciously like hammering
You over and over again so um when it comes like prize framing what you really have to do is think about this more as an interview in the fact that okay I actually need to demonstrate my value and
Like why I would be good for this position or company and then when I’m actually hired when I’m in there and when I demonstrate all that that’s where you got some bargaining power that’s where
You can be like look I don’t want to do this I want to get paid more whatever it might be and the same with dating if you just rock up to a girl with zero value whatsoever or like
You open a message straight away and you’re like tell me three good things about you otherwise I’m leaving or you know you start speaking to a girl and you’re like why should I even talk to you and
All [ __ ] like if you have no that’s never going to work it’s actually going to have the opposite effect it’s going to be like an anti frame it’s going to trigger the girl’s ego and she’s going
To tell you to [ __ ] off okay so when it comes to prize framing that needs to come you’re only the prize once she seizure as the prize that’s like pretty much it like you need to demonstrate all
Your value first she needs to be attracted then you can start prize framing then you can start getting it at Chase then you can ask these like heavily qualifying questions before that settle the [ __ ] down okay stop trying to like convince yourself otherwise and look it’s okay with like
Not being good enough for half the girls out there when you’re starting out like [ __ ] you guys okay I’m I struggled in game okay took me ages to get over C approach me ages till I first had
A poll like then I got really good okay but I had to go through a struggle process too don’t expect like you get into game you rock up you’re like I should deserve every [ __ ] goal no you need
To learn to be a better person you need to develop your communication skills you need to develop your sex skills once you do all that then you can start looking at yourself and being like okay like before maybe I did deserve maybe like these girls that kind of average or like weren’t that
[ __ ] engaging to talk to but the better I get at this the more like I see myself as this high value guy the more I become that high value guy now yeah I do deserve like the types of girls
That I actually want and when you get to that point amazing but develop yourself until you get there um so I think those are the two biggest ones this idea of like trying to NE um comes off
Like really poorly all the times it needs to be very subtle and basically like the whole premise behind negging is that you’re just showing you not this like [ __ ] nice guy so you can disagree it
Doesn’t have to be like nice nails or they fake you can just like disagree with a girl she’s like I’m from columia it’s the best place in the world you’re like [ __ ] no I’ve been to Columbia
I hated it right it was pretty [ __ ] to be honest right it can just be like a genuine disagreement doesn’t have to be that aggressive but um and then when it comes to prize framing develop your Valley first I think these are probably the two biggest things people [ __ ] up but why I’m
On a rant there’s so many other things people [ __ ] up okay people [ __ ] up retention they lie to girls about how many [ __ ] girls to slept with they suck it like sexual escalation it’s all physical they suck it Elma they think oh I need to like escalate pullback escalate pullback instead
Of just like dealing with a [ __ ] concern when it comes to concerns people are just like two second Adventure they think it’s all emotional and girls don’t have a [ __ ] logical brain they do okay if she’s saying I have to be up in the morning stop just telling a two second Adventure deal
With it I have to be up in the morning listen I’ll give you an Uber won’t be a late night um people [ __ ] up everything when it comes to game it’s crazy um which goes back to why you
Need mentoring but uh anyway that’s my rant mik dropped boom I like it that was good I I think uh um it’s so it’s so interesting when someone gives a really good response how you don’t want to like
Make their like you don’t know how to respond from there you’re just like oh yeah that works what else can I add so I guess I’ll just add my thing and and I guess this is this is just part
Of my my recent clients that I’ve had and it’s uh and and you called it prize I just called it egot like egotistic personalities without any backing to it like they just expect that they should be
Good with these girls like I’ll give an example when I was a kid when I was like 15 16 and I wanted to like get better with women one of the things that I had to do was drop my ego because
Every man thinks they can do three things every man thinks they can pick up a girl uh they can win in a fight and they can make money fact of the matter is most men can’t do all three they
Can’t do anything so by me it was real funny by me actually going no I suck with women I really suck uh I need to get some coaching I need to get better I need to find out I need to be like look
I suck I need I need the basics uh all my friends couldn’t relate with me and because they had that ego there of like no I’m good I’m good and uh you know F you know fast forward it’s like me at 29
Versus them at 29 I’m like huh yeah I’m glad I dropped my ego back then but one of the things that I work with a lot with the clients is this idea I call it the Seven Pillars of status where
I basically there are SE these Seven Pillars where I get the guys to rank themselves on how valuable they are in the world based on different questions and if you ask most men what they are they’re like a seven out of 10 because that’s a very uh socially acceptable number it’s like
You’re not bragging you’re not like a 10 out of 10 you’re not a a four out of 10 because you said I’m a four out of 10 most people like no you’re not you’re you’re better than that but uh a lot of a
Lot of the time the way men rank themselves as a seven out of 10 is they base it on how they rank women which is majority of the times looks but how a woman ranks a man like you know he’s attractive
He’s not attractive he’s he’s desirable he’s not desirable is on a lot of different factors so we get the guys to go through all seven factors and what comes out is a number at the end they divide
It by seven and they get like an actual Universal value number for themselves and you’d be shocked and surprised that most of these guys that have these big egos don’t have the backing behind them
And they get to score like three .4 and so like you I’m like this is your actual number in society you’re a 3.4 out of 10 and it like crushes their soul because then they realize like the reason
Why they’re not getting good with girls is one of the things they’re not valuable in this world they don’t have what is desirable what is you know attractive in this world so an example is like they don’t have a social network they don’t have lots of money they don’t have social media
They don’t have uh communication skills uh they don’t they lack the idea of leadership and the understanding of just being natural and and and relaxed in conversations and all these kind of things the the understanding Logistics they might be in a bad country they might not be in the right
Kind of place they might be four or five hours away from the the local hot spot so all of these factors add up and and what what we what I like like to get a lot of guys is I see this ego with
No backing towards it and then when you crush them with my with my system you crush their their soul they go oh okay and just getting them towards like a a four or five or six you’ll see their
Actual life improve drastically improve because we think that like a seven out of 10 seven out of 10 is basically well above average and so most guys working around are two three or four out of out
Of 10 and no no wonder they’re not getting girls CU their whole life sucks like everything about them sucks they’re they’re losing they’re not even they’re they have no winner effect they’re not on a upward spiral they’re on a downward spiral and these are the guys that got the most ego being
Like girl should just come up and approach me girl should do this I should have the baddest girl and it’s like you’ve done nothing to deserve it you’ve done nothing you’ve dropped no ego you’ve you’ve actually uh pretty much live in a delusional reality it’s okay to live in a delusional reality
If you’re making efforts towards shortening that Gap but most of these guys just expect this [ __ ] to happen I think that was like the biggest thing that I saw and that’s that’s even gone back since
The day of like 2013 that that that’s been a huge thing these guys just expecting this [ __ ] and just never happens and they get so frustrated and then they go and they become an inseller they just start blaming the community and it’s like well you were the problem the whole time your your
Mind and how you’ve conjugated everything and and and and back in back before marus saying grabbed evidence to back up your theories it’s like you’re you’re your worst enemy and so a lot of people don’t have the heart to drop their ego and and to tell themselves that they’re the person
That are holding themselves back because that would completely Crush their reality so they’re not they’re not even honest with themselves so I would say that that would be my biggest sticking point that I have that if I see guys do that they progress rapidly if they don’t do that they don’t
They don’t at all all righty nice uh let’s leave it there thanks for thanks for joining the dating coach panel uh don’t know what the [ __ ] is wrong with me but this is what happens when it’s late at
Night it gets weird who [ __ ] knows maybe it’s these Australians they’re such a bad influence doesn’t help that they’re as cestors are criminals anyway y with tough const down Amite sounds like a fret anyway uh yeah let’s go um I forgot how I tend to end these things but [ __ ] it um make
Sure you drop a comment in the comments what the [ __ ] is wrong with me make sure you com make sure you like uh yeah also ultimate project if you want to check that out Sam where can people find you yeah social life mentoring.com you can go check out my Social Circle status building
Dating networking mentorship uh yeah drop a like and comment yeah make sure you drop a like in the comments and the comment and the likes and just [ __ ] subscribe and get this [ __ ] [ __ ] going and get me to bed [ __ ] this anyway thanks for watching Force appreciate it man
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We went in at the end there 🔥 Thanks for having me on Ice. Another Banger!
Do a panel with Austen Summers, Karisma King, Shaun Michaels, and Gabriel Grey on technical game vs natural game, and routines or improv. Austen and Karisma king are more pro natural and Shaun and Gabriel are pro technical game, it would be interesting discussion.
Men don't use height as an excuse, the rest of society puts them down for it.
Short men are the undesirables of the world, therefore no amount of cope and bs will amount to any success.
This was an amazing conversation guys. Thank you for your time and knowledge
Next time ask: what advice works good for beginners but should be dropped to become more advanced.
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