Uh welcome to this event uh here in Dubai and also on the screens I am happy to welcome all of you my name is madlin madlin wner I’m working for misero and there I am working as expert for energy systems and renewable energies um I’m moderating this event on
Behalf of my uh colleague Lydia who is uh sadly uh who sadly fall ill so she’s not here at the moment but like all day the event was planned by her so um please send her the Gratitude um if you like it in the end so today’s session is
Under the name increasing trust and transparency for a socially Just Energy transition under the Paris agreement and with this title we want to explore the role of transparency in increasing trust under the Paris agreement of course this is in the title but what do we mean with
This and what we mean with this should be explored by all our panelists and you see different ones um I will present them to you in a minute but before I’m doing this I quickly want to get give you an overview where we are like going
And where we are coming from because we are speaking about indigenous communities we are speaking about implementation um local action in Germany especially with a focus on the Just Energy transition and we are also focusing and this is linked to what we are seeing here what’s happening here in
Some rooms over there we are speaking about the GST um and try to link it to the unfc there um behind this event there are three organizations as already said there is TI there is fast in action and there is misero so now I would like to ask to go to the next
Slide and here you see all our and the next slide yeah yes great here you see that we are going to have a panel discussion in this event and the first intervention will be by Mara um who is a representative of the uru Vivo Network I hope I pronounced it
Right um if not please excuse it um in Brazil on the energy transition in Brazil and then we will have edel speaking um from the Brazil foreign Ministry on energy and sustainable development then we have Tobias fosen from the German environmental Ministry speaking on transparency and unfc and we
Have David KN from fast and action on Transparency International the panel discussion will be followed by small questions by you and you are happily invited to raise your questions when all our speakers gave the intervention good and with this let us dive into our first Speaker of the day it is
Edel and edel you now have it is Ma sorry it is Mata and Mata you now have the floor there’s some questions to you I would like to ask you and we can go to the next slide uh great um Mara what is the experience of your community with the
Energy transition what are opportunities and challenges bra for nice good afternoon um welcome anyone thank you for the invitation I’m from the northeast of matu and I’m showing you this slide to show a little bit from where I’m coming from um it’s a beautiful region it’s home to 11
Indigenous peoples but also several traditional communities with whom we work together for so I’m from the juruena Basin which is a tributary to the Amazon River and I’d like to speak today a little bit about the challenge of the hydroelectric dams and the impacts that they’re causing um
Which is something that we are facing there’s not a lot of discussion about this Brazil talks a lot about its um energy transition but U hydroelectric dams a big part of that and they’re causing huge impacts I’d like to show the increase of these dams um between 2019 and 2023 which you
Can also see on the map um and we’re particularly concerned about the small hydroelectric dams they’re called uh CGH dams and they’re up to 5 megawatt and we are very concerned about about them because they don’t require environmental licensing they’re not Regulated in the Jena Basin there are several communities who have already developed consultation protocols like this one that she um has here um which which establish how the communities want to be consulted about projects that impact um their ways of life and their territories but these Protocols are not being
Respected by the by the government ASAS so what we are seeing is that this lack of consultation and consideration is not just an issue in in Matos in my state but in the whole of Brazil um there’s a lot of talk about energy transition including here at the cop but just like here at the cop um countries are
Negotiating about um doing something about this but they really want they want more profit and what we’re facing as well is that these companies they want more profit they want more energy because they want to produce more grains more soy and that the big farmers want to produce more soy and that is
Impacting our territories and it’s also impacting climate change so to finalize um we do a lot of monitoring and if you would like to know more about our work the monitoring that we do um under the umbrella of the Jena viu Network you can access the QR code
And learn more about our work thank you very [Applause] much thank you very much Mata for explaining this to us um it is sad to hear that the reality is looking like this but it’s also in empowering and it’s really good to hear that you’re taking over some action to increase uh
The conditions that’s that’s quite well thank you thank you very much um also for setting the scene of our discussion with your local experience uh from the indigenous communities um our next speaker is Adel naras um Adel I would like to ask you to address in your intervention the
Following two questions and I read them out so that it is um good uh to understand what are your views on how the energy transition in Brazil connects with the lives and sustainable production patterns of indigenous people how can the global stock Tech contribute towards a faster and more participatory
Energy transition in the rural world so these are like the two questions we would like to have answered and now I give over to you present good afternoon thank you all very much um for being here for the invitation I’d like to start by saying that there will
Be no energy transition without the consultation of indigenous peoples and local communities and traditional communities in Brazil there are are 250 indigenous peoples and there are 29 different groups of traditional people in the first place it’s really important to recognize these indigenous people and traditional communities and to demarcate their territories
It is also really important to respect and recognize the right to free Pride informed consent of these indigenous peoples and traditional peoples a just transition means that indigenous people local communities need to understand sorry the traditional communities need to understand the documents that are being made there need to be translations
So that they are able to debate um this the things that are in these documents so it’s really important for the global stock t Team to understand that without the participation of these indigenous peoples and traditional communities there will not be a Just Energy transition I’d like to stress that the territories
That my colleague T told you about where these dams are being built there are territories of indigenous peoples of traditional peoples when we talk about transparency and about creating well-being I’d like to tell you that this well-being and these these projects don’t reach these territories the so-called clean energy is violating
The rights and it it’s very often involved in land grabbing their stealing stealing lands of traditional communities and I’d like you to tell you a story that these people these communities these territories they don’t have access to the energy that’s being created around them transparency means talking about social justice
Transparency also means recognizing the rights of indigenous peoples and of the black diaspora the kilala communities that have suffered so many violations in their history transparency also means guaranteeing that these communities can effectively participate in negoti indigenous peoples and and traditional communities they don’t want to be at the
Cop here just as as um second class U participants they want to participate they want to be part of the discussions I’d like to invite you all to meet the traditional communities and Indigenous peoples of Brazil and to hear more about their stories so Secret I am the executive secretary for
Traditional and Indigenous communities and sustainable rural development from the ministry of environment and I’m a black woman and being part of the government it’s part of my responsibility to guarantee the participation of indigenous peoples and traditional communities the contribution of indigenous peoples and traditional communities is huge they they provide
And they protect ecosystem services that contribute to the well-being of the whole humanity and the whole earth and transparency means reducing the inequality between those who make make decisions and are part of the discussion and ensure that indigenous peoples and traditional communities not just from Brazil but from the whole
World can be part of this discussion thank you very [Applause] much thank you very much AEL for sharing these views that’s quite Rich um and what I took from it is that transparency is leading to Justice it is leading to having people in the decision making ESP especially indigenous people it is
Leading to more participation and involvement and in the end to better results right of the energy transition we want to see this is very inspiring thank you very much for this input we will now go over to our next speaker Tobias fosen and Tobias is coming from a
Different background um he’s coming from Germany and he will now give us a more high level message but also some input on how the energy transition in Germany is looking and I will read out a question so that they’re precise and everyone knows what it will be about so
The first question how can the enhanced transparency framework be used to leverage trust and contribution to an effective functioning of the Paris agreement and perhaps I give some context the enhanced transparency framework is like the mechanism reporting mechanism um of the unfc um the second question is what are
The challenges to include local level climate action in the UNF Triple C by annual reports and then the third question how can these reports be used for inform political decision making at National and at local level for example from Germany so now Tobias over to you thank you are you also showing my
Slides oh theor change but it’s nice yeah thank you um yeah here are the the questions again uh M already read out yeah trust is a very important thing here for our negotiations the whole world came here to make an agreement and for to having this agreement and at the end that
Everyone is trusting the agreement that everyone who agreed to something is also fulfilling it for this we need uh transparency it’s very important uh it has already been part of the the um the convention the Koto protocol and um now we’re working on fulfilling the agreements under the Paris
Agreement and um maybe let me say a few words about uh what is involved in in this and how we are to be transparent so it’s uh it’s divided more or less uh two parts one uh are the in inventories where every country um under the Paris
Agreement so in the future now every country is telling about how much emission it’s it’s put in the air and also um regarding um forest and things like that how much emission um they get out of the air but usually it’s unfortunately more is getting in than
Out and the other part um also very important is about uh more the political background which policies are in place to to lower emissions to to decrease emissions and um and also other things how much support is provided how much support is received and and thing like
That um let me go to the next one yeah and this is a BTR um the Germany’s last report where they explained their their policies and um and and what they’re doing and um um I think it’s well this report is is for the other countries so they can see what
Germany is doing and well maybe also not doing um but it’s it can also be used um for for other people who want to just give an get an overview what is Germany doing and um um well I think that’s an oh I’m going too
Fast um mother the next slide so if you come to local levels then for for example in Germany they might wonder okay how is the traffic policy to be in the future um Are we more uh going for um uh for bicycle Lanes or public transport things like that and um they
Can look in the report and see okay uh for the transport sector this and that is planned uh subsidies for electric cars uh things like that and um to give you well not not for the local area but for the whole of Germany for the federal
Level um Germany we have this um um CLA sh gazettes clima climate Protection Law um and this law is actually based on on the transparency rules and um and things like that so we have this um every year in um uh in a April we make uh a rough
Estimate about the the emissions from the previous year and um as you can see here in the picture then these um emissions are divided into different categories if someone is hear from transparency please be careful these are not the the normal categories we use for for international
Reporting so they’re more aligned to the responsibilities of the Ministries and then um for each Ministry there’s a Target and then they it’s checked if each Ministry fulfills the targets and if they’re above the target which sometimes happens um then they have to uh to to make a
Um a plan um about how they what they’re going to do to to be able to fulfill their um the goals in the future um yeah thank you very much I hope I wasn’t too fast but otherwise if you have questions I’m very welcome I very gladly answer them thank
You H thank you tobas for explaining us how the enhanced transparency framework can be used to increase trust and also to give us short import on what is happening in Germany currently and how also the transparency measures are taken up in the communication Germany is doing
H thank you very much we will now head over to David K who is sitting right next to tobas and um David will explain to us the results of a study that was recently published and just give us an overview of the findings and this this study is like summing up different um
Ndc’s Communications and transparency see in it so over to you David thank you very much and I think I have to manipulate that myself so I’m not ID nare but I think we have discovered that in in the meantime so I have the pleasure to be the last speaker usually I don’t like
That but I think in that case it’s not bad um because I think I can connect a little bit what we have heard from our previous speakers uh presenting the results of our NC transparency study that that we conducted together from Fast action with our colleagues from CB and
Missor and this initiative really has the ambition to increase trust transparency and participation in climate action and for this for the for this we we we engaged in a series of case studies in different countries and um this slide is incomplete there should be text here on
This slide so I don’t know what happened somehow that must have been lost on the way but basically what is to be said on that slide we looked at three levels so that’s the three icons you see the first level is we looked into how let me read
It at least I have it here all right transparency in Target setting so do countries have transparent Targets in climate action secondly transparency in progress tracking so do count also report about what they’re doing this is what Tobias just was presenting and finally we had a focus on energy and
That very much links to what we heard from from Marta and also from from Adel so we did this study in uh different countries uh more than 10 countries and from a couple of them we then produced The Meta study which are going now to present the main results
And luckily we have the text here so that’s good so um on the level of transparency in Target setting I will be very brief it’s not important the numbers but maybe a little bit the colors um we see that when we talk about the enabling environment so that is the mix of
Policies at hand in a given country to actually achieve the the targets it has has set itself in the Paris agreement to fulfill the Paris agreement we see a mixed picture which means the the the targets are the the measures are not well enough they’re not strong enough to
Actually achieve the targets uh maybe there are too many voluntary measures and not enough uh incentives or not enough prescriptive measures uh like the prohibition maybe of of of the use of fossil fuels in a certain or the the the construction of new coal uh plants power plants we then looked into transparency
In progress tracking and here we have a a mixed picture uh on the first of all on the international level we see that there is a a good reporting on individual measures but much less on policies as such so our policies in its complete form implemented or not we
Don’t really know at the international level uh that’s at least our assessment and I’m happy to hear that Germany is here on a on a good track um on the national level however the picture is is mixed um we see that the reports exist in on on the national
Level the reports are here but there are inconsistent and irregular so it’s very difficult to know actually what is happening really in the on in the country and that is uh that is a problem because it it it’s difficult then to also have trust that the processes are inclusive and uh
Respect the the rights of local communities and in the case of Brazil also indigenous peoples of course and I would then come to the next one which is our focus on energy we we looked into energy because it’s the main driver of climate change and um here we
Find actually that’s the good news in many countries there are systems and schemes to support local energy projects however the participation in decision making on the local level is not very good the mechanism to allow indigenous communities to allow local communities to participate in the in the
In the in the projects that are happening on the ground it’s it’s is not very strong um this is what we see throughout this relay throughout the the continuity of consultation throughout the process of the project and also the co benefits of the projects are not very
Strongly developed so there’s a lot of room to improve and to to make actually the energy transition to be a driver of development of local communities and Indigenous peoples so what does that mean for us here in in here at cop at cop 28 we talk talk about the global stock take it
Means for us that we have to to think about that when we discuss the NDC which is the the planning instrument for for many countries um which comes after the global stock take so we should plan ndcs in a inclusive and socially just Manner and it’s important that this is
Highlighted already now when we discuss about the global stock take and secondly that we ask also in the global stock Tech to produce to to to give a mandate to the enhanced trans transparency framework so that the the uh different reports that are being produced are then
Also analyzed in a synthetic way so that we can extract learnings and use it to build trust among the parties so that’s on the international level and lastly on the N National level um that we use this this work to build coordination capacities that’s very important important to actually monitor
The implementation of climate policy so that there well implemented and finally that we improve the community access to energy projects that’s important and very essential in many countries so that communities can directly access funds and drive their own development according to their own dreams many [Applause]
Thanks thank you David for giving us his overview also about his studies I think it connected the different levels we had in our interventions for now now I would really like to give over to all of you you were sitting here you were participating in the event and I’m sure
There were some ideas coming up in in your mind when you were listening perhaps some thoughts perhaps some Inspirations but also questions and I would now like to give over to all of you to like stand up speak up um and share all of this with you with the
Panel and if you have questions I’m sure there is time to answer these questions so just raise your hand or stand up yes D someone thank you so much for being here this is really um interesting to to connect kind of these two angles and I was wondering to the panelists from
Brazil if um you could speak a little bit to the way that um your work intersects with the work of the administration I know last year there’s a pretty big change in um the administration the government in Brazil and whether that has made your work easier or if you’re feeling optimistic
About kind of the future of transparency and also the kind of local monitoring that you’re doing um thank you very much for the session um my question also to the panelists from Brazil is if you could expand a bit more on how your spirituality comes into your work and what opportunities do you
Have in um Global conferences like cop um to really bring that to the table and explain how your spirituality helps you to drive your your uh messaging in these International fora thank you okay great thank you I think we will just take these two questions because I
Know we are short in time and then we will take the other two questions and I think then we are good to go so if you would like to answer them and perhaps our translation can also support us yes for for so our struggle has always been very
Strong and there’s no there has been no government that really um fulfilled all their demands that we have and that was an easy dialogue um but of course we know that the last government that we have the B BOS and our government really bulldozer over all our rights and they
Were really very threatened and still today their rights that are being Threatened for so the current current government is doing a lot more for our health and education systems it’s a huge Improvement but our rights are still not fully being respected they’re still being negotiation negotiated because and that’s exactly why we’re here to talk about this energy transition in which
Our rights are very often not respected and when they are like when we when we manage to make sure that they comply with our consultation protocols it only happens after a lot of social pressure so like our Minister Sonia guara said yesterday it’s not that just because we have indigenous representatives in
Government and in Congress that it’s given that our rights are being respected the only difference is that now we have these Representatives who can speak and protect our rights in these decision-making places mod about the question about how these developments impact our spirituality I get emotional about to talk about that
Because these projects of technological and AG industrial expansion they impact our our spirituality very directly indigen so white men they separate people from nature but for us it’s the same thing we are part of nature for us the river is is part of us and it it has um an owner
Which is a spiritual entity and the name is what’s man manamu is the name of the spiritual owner of the river and it’s a female entity so all things in nature they have an owner a spiritual owner the rivers have that the forest the trees so when you have this the construction of
Hydroelectric dams that impact these places are sacred for us like our rivers that directly impacts our spirituality for in so Brazil is a country that produces an excessive excess amount of energy produces more than it needs but the energy that it produces is is used for industry it’s for the big AGR business
Companies and it would be great if we would get some of that energy but we actually pay a very high price for Energy in in monetary terms the we are surrounded by 70 hydroelectric dams in our Jena Basin but that energy doesn’t reach our Villages that energy is for for the big
Companies thank you thank you very much Mata for explaining this to us um the time is already becoming short so we need to end the event and there were two more questions and I would like to encourage uh you to ask the questions later at the end of the event um the
Speakers will be here you can ask the questions so um don’t uh feel cut uh in your participation um so I would like to thank all of you who participated here in the room and also those who participated online it was great to have you here it was great to have some
Interaction I hope you got some inspiration some thoughts uh how transparency can lead to more trust to more ambitious and why it is important also for climate Justice and the realities uh yeah on the ground like in real life um and also in UNF C dis space
Uh we are all in at this moment so thank you all and um have a nice [Applause] day thank you Med I just wanted to say thank you to meline and thank you to the panelists orri and uh for reminding us um how important a truly Just Energy transition
Um is and what it needs to look like we will take a transition break now