I encourage members who are leaving the  chamber to do so as quickly and quietly   as possible. The final item of business is a  members’ business debate on motion S6M-10526,   in the name of Collette Stevenson, on  challenge poverty week 2023. The debate  

Will be concluded without any question being  put. I invite members who wish to participate   to press their request-to-speak  buttons now or as soon as possible,   and I invite Collette Stevenson to open the  debate by speaking for around seven minutes.

I am grateful to members across the chamber for  supporting my motion. There are many things that I   want to touch on in my speech, and I accept  the challenge of doing so in seven minutes. First, I pay tribute to the Poverty Alliance,  which plays an important role as Scotland’s  

Anti-poverty network, alongside many other  organisations, community groups and activists.   With the current cost of living crisis, we are  all acutely aware of the increased difficulties   that people across the country face. Challenge  poverty week 2023 gave us the opportunity to   acknowledge that and recognise that, for many,  the crisis is compounding their hardship. The  

Realities of poverty were highlighted  and solutions were put forward. This   year’s calls included ensuring that people have  adequate incomes and that no one goes hungry. Around 250,000 children are living in poverty in  Scotland. I know that everyone here is united in   supporting the Scottish Government’s national  mission to tackle poverty. Under the Child  

Poverty Act 2017, Scotland is the only part of  the United Kingdom with statutory income targets   for tackling child poverty, with bold targets  for 2030 and interim targets that are to be met   this financial year. As convener of the Social  Justice and Social Security Committee, I want us  

To review the 2017 act when data for this year are  available, and to ensure that we learn the right   lessons in order to meet those 2030 targets. Of  course, much has changed since 2017—Brexit, Covid   and Liz Truss’s economic vandalism have all added  to the pain that is felt by people across the UK.

Those crises might affect the targets, but the  Scottish Government has worked hard to support   people through them, with a wide-ranging package  of measures to build a fairer Scotland. A crucial   part of that is the Scottish child payment, which  charities have hailed as a game changer. That  

Payment of £25 per eligible child per week is  a lifeline for many families, and it will help   more than 300,000 children this year. In addition,  the Scottish National Party Government is widening   access to free school meals, boosting  social security spending by £1 billion,  

Expanding free childcare and continuing  to mitigate the worst of Westminster’s   policies. Such actions are expected to lift  90,000 children out of poverty this year alone. However, with one hand tied behind its back,  there is only so much that this Parliament  

Can do. Imagine the fairer country that we  could build if this Parliament had the full   economic and fiscal powers that are required  to tackle poverty and inequalities. Instead,   we are left with Westminster  austerity and toxic Tory policies,   such as the rape clause, which hamper  our efforts to tackle poverty. Sadly,  

The Labour Party is offering nothing other  than a continuation of those cruel policies. The First Minister’s three key missions  are tackling poverty, building a fair,   green and growing economy, and delivering  effective public services. Those three   areas are interlinked. As Alfie Stirling from  the Joseph Rowntree Foundation recently said,

“Business investment may be the  lifeblood of a growing economy,   but social security and public  services provide the heartbeat.” Social security is important in order to  support people when they need it and, equally,   in the fight against poverty. I am glad that,  with recent but limited powers, we have built  

A new Scottish social security system that  is based on fairness, dignity and respect. However, although social security has a  role to play, it is by no means the only   tool. Regardless of social security  status, those people who are in work  

Are not immune from the risk of poverty.  Indeed, the Poverty Alliance has pointed   out the stark statistics that more than  10 per cent of workers in Scotland are   locked in persistent low pay and that nearly  three quarters of those workers are women.

Last week, I spoke at an event celebrating SSE’s  10th anniversary as a living wage employer. We had   an interesting discussion about the benefits—not  only for social justice but to the business—of   paying staff a fair wage for a fair day’s work.  Unfortunately, with employment law reserved to  

Westminster, we are reliant on employers  choosing to adopt it. I am glad that so   many organisations are doing so. East Kilbride  is home to more than 60 living wage employers. This year, the living wage is 48p per hour higher  than the minimum wage for people who are aged  

Over 22. For someone in that age bracket, who  is working a 37-hour week, that translates to   an extra £923 over the year. However, one of the  unfair aspects of the UK minimum wage policy is   that it includes age inequality by default. For  someone aged 21 or 22, the loss rises to nearly  

£1,400 if they are on the minimum wage rather than  the living wage, and for someone aged 18 to 20,   that loss rises to a staggering £6,500. This  morning, the new living wage rate was announced   at £12 per hour—£1 more than the minimum  wage—so that inequality will only get worse.

Poverty at the end of life is another issue  that we must challenge. The Marie Curie   Foundation found that two thirds of people  with a terminal illness rely on benefits,   so it is vital that we ensure sufficient support  for people in that situation and their carers.

I pay tribute to all of Scotland’s anti-poverty  campaigners. I commend the Poverty Alliance for   another successful challenge poverty week,  which is an initiative that it launched 10   years ago. I will certainly continue  to challenge poverty and to work for a   fairer Scotland. I look forward to hearing  contributions from all of my colleagues.

I begin by giving my apologies  to those in the chamber,   as I have to leave the debate early this evening. I congratulate Collette Stevenson on bringing  this important debate to the chamber. After all,   as legislators and representatives of the people  who elected us, challenging poverty should be  

A collective moral imperative. Like Collette, I  could have talked about many things this evening,   such as the two-child cap, which remains an  abhorrent UK policy that continues to drive   children into poverty. According to the  Child Poverty Action Group in Scotland,   15,000 children a year have been  pushed into poverty by that policy.

I could also talk about the alarming  new study from the Joseph Rowntree   Foundation that was published today, which  shows that around 3.8 million people in the   UK experience destitution. That number is  up 61 per cent since 2019 and has more than  

Doubled since 2017. Destitution is increasing  more slowly in Scotland thanks to the bold   policies that we have, such as the Scottish child  payment, but we remain limited in what we can do   in this Parliament without all the powers of  an independent country. I am confident that  

My colleagues will cover some of those areas  this evening, but I will focus on an extant   injustice that has been raised by a number  of my constituents: historical energy debt.   I do not mean their historical energy debt; I  mean debt that comes with a prepayment meter.

I have spoken to a number of people who have  taken up tenancies, whether in social housing,   council houses or new properties, who, if  they did not get a new top-up card in the   prepayment meter, could carry the debt of  the previous tenant and the previous owner,  

And the standing charges from when it was last  used. Even if people supply meter readings,   the standing charge debt can accrue and be put on  to their system. That is leaving some of the most   vulnerable people in my constituency absolutely  devastated. They cannot heat their homes or look  

After their budgets, because they are being  lumped with up to £271—which is the highest   amount that I have heard about so far—of someone  else’s debt. That is morally repugnant. Although   we could say that it is a Westminster  issue and that it needs legislation,  

What are the energy companies doing to right  that wrong? It is an absolute disgrace. That is just one of the problems with prepayment  metres that we know about. Quite often,   there can also be an increased or a more expensive  tariff. In addition, people who are struggling and  

Trying to manage their energy use can fall victim  to self-disconnection. In this century, with all   the weather problems that we have in Scotland,  why are we talking about self-disconnection?   It makes no sense whatsoever. I cannot understand  why that term is still being used in this country.

Perhaps this is the biggest problem. I got the  £400 grant from the United Kingdom Government   to help with energy costs—everyone in this room  probably did—but take-up for people on prepayment   meters is minuscule. In some cases, it is about  60 per cent. Those people are not accessing the  

Vouchers, because it is assumed that they have  a mobile phone to which the voucher can be sent   and that they have digital access. Why should the  most vulnerable people in our society have to jump   through hoops to get a benefit that we in this  room all get? Energy companies could be doing so  

Much more to help people on prepayment meters  and to right that injustice. There is a moral   imperative on them to fix the  problem as quickly as possible. I, too, thank Collette Stevenson for securing  the debate. Challenge poverty week was launched   in 2013 by the Poverty Alliance with  the aim of highlighting the injustice  

Of poverty in Scotland and with a desire  to find solutions based on compassion and   collective action. I congratulate all those  who helped to organise, and took part in,   this year’s challenge poverty week, with more than  400 events taking place between 2 and 8 October.

Challenge poverty week is important. It  is important that we recognise that the   Poverty Alliance has been pushing  the Parliament on such issues,   and its strong advocacy has helped to make  the Government and the Parliament act in many   areas. That is why there is continued strong  cross-party consensus on the objectives of  

The Child Poverty Act 2017. That legislation,  which was passed unanimously by the Parliament,   sets a target to substantially reduce child  poverty rates in Scotland, and, collectively,   we must continue to focus on delivering the  outcomes that are set out in the 2017 act.

In the time that I have today, I want  to concentrate on three key sections of   our society that need more focused and targeted  support. Poverty levels among Scotland’s ethnic   minority communities remain disproportionately  higher than those among the general population.  

It is estimated that the poverty rate stands at  48 per cent among mixed, black and other ethnic   minority groups and at 49 per cent among Asian  ethnic minority groups in our society. Clearly,   specific factors are having a negative impact on  the minority ethnic groups that experience higher  

Levels of poverty. We need more focused action  on removing the barriers that exist for those   groups that are furthest removed from accessing  welfare and support. In the Social Justice and   Social Security Committee, we have heard that  a key factor continues to be language barriers.

There are also higher poverty rates among  lone-parent families—92 per cent of which   involve single women—with a single source  of income. Almost 40 per cent of children in   relative poverty in Scotland live in a lone-parent  family, so it stands to reason that we need to  

Look at what targeted support can be provided  to them. When we consider future increases in   targeted support such as the child payment, I  hope that the Parliament and the Government will   consider how targeted support could be provided to  those specific groups. In many previous committee  

Sessions, those asks have been made, and there  is the opportunity for us to look at that. Collette Stevenson mentioned unpaid carers, and I  hope that that group will be given more targeted   support in the future. I welcome the fact that  the Scottish Government has listened to some  

Of the concerns that I and others have outlined.  In relation to people undertaking a caring role,   once the person who is being cared for dies, the  guillotine comes down on payments, which has an   impact on many people, so I welcome the fact that  the Government has committed to extending the  

Carer support payment for a further six months  after a person who is being cared for dies. There is a lot more that we could do. For example,  I hope that we can have a conversation about the   additional support that people might need in order  to get them back into the workplace or society.

I welcome challenge poverty week 2023. Above all,  I hope that this year, once again, presents the   opportunity for us all to rededicate ourselves  to delivering the policy outcomes to which we are   all committed and to working as a Parliament and  with the Government to lift people out of poverty.

I thank Collette Stevenson for securing  this important debate. I know that I am   not alone when I say that I did not  get into politics to make things worse;   I got into politics to try to  make things better for people,  

And I believe that we should all challenge poverty  at every opportunity. During last year’s challenge   poverty week, I organised two cost of living  surgeries to raise awareness of the support   and advice that are freely available to people  who were worried about rising bills. Since then,  

I have organised another seven such surgeries  and I have another lined up for next month. As an MSP, I have always strived to be as  accessible as possible to my constituents.   Having those surgeries outwith my office and in  local town centres was key to their success. There  

Was existing footfall in the Oak Mall shopping  centre in Greenock, and I also had a surgery in   the Inverclyde Community Development Trust’s  offices in Port Glasgow. People stopped to   engage with the advice agencies that were in  attendance, such as Advice Direct Scotland and  

Home Energy Scotland, among other local partners.  Social Security Scotland is now one of the key   agencies that I invite to the cost of living  surgeries, which have become a regular feature   of my parliamentary duties. I do it because I  want to ensure that my constituents receive all  

The assistance to which they are entitled and  to try to reduce poverty in my constituency. The Scottish child payment, which is a benefit  that is unique to Scotland, is worth £25 per week   per eligible child. As of 30 June this year, the  payment was benefiting 316,000 children and it is  

Estimated to have lifted 50,000 children out of  relative poverty. That shows that the Scottish   National Party Government is committed to using  the powers at its disposal to try to tackle   poverty in Scotland, and it demonstrates that  Scotland can take a different approach to welfare  

Reform. Just think about how much further we  could go in the Parliament if we had more powers,   or with independence. The reality is that the  UK Government has presided over a cost of living   crisis that is hitting our economy harder  than is the case in our European neighbours.  

Research shows, time and again, that Brexit  is one of the driving factors behind that,   and that policy is now, sadly,  supported by the Labour Party. The UK Government’s continued pursuit of  austerity, which was started by Labour   when it was last in power and which is now  going full steam ahead with the Tories,  

Is making people’s lives harder, not easier. The  waiting time for universal credit is still far too   long and continues to drive people to food banks.  When people eventually receive a universal credit   payment, it does not cover all the basics.  I regularly visit Inverclyde Foodbank and I  

Support the Trussell Trust’s guaranteed essentials  campaign, which is calling for the basic rate of   universal credit to at least cover the cost  of essentials such as food, household bills   and travel costs. That is because around 90 per  cent of low-income households receiving universal  

Credit are going without at least one essential,  such as food, a warm home or toiletries. That shows that the UK Government’s  policies are contributing to poverty,   which is in stark contrast to the efforts  of this Parliament and the Government here  

In Scotland. We are attempting to tackle  poverty in Scotland with one hand tied   behind our back. Sadly, with Labour  now signed up to the two-child cap,   which is working against efforts to lift children  out of poverty, it is abundantly clear that we  

Cannot trust the Westminster parties with  looking after those who are most in need. In the run-up to challenge poverty week, I was  asked by the Poverty Alliance to write a blog   post about my work on challenging poverty.  I gave some background on the cost of living  

Surgeries that I mentioned, but one key point  that I stressed and that I want to stress again   to everyone listening is: if you need help,  please ask. MSPs and their staff across the   country deal with difficult situations daily,  and there are certainly folk there who can help.

I am conscious of time, so I will  end there, Presiding Officer. I thank Collette Stevenson for  bringing this debate to Parliament,   and I pay tribute to the Poverty Alliance and all  those organisations that are leading in the fight  

Against poverty. Because poverty is not simply  a lack of wealth; it is a lack of power as well,   which can lead to acquiescence, and that is why we  must all challenge poverty at every opportunity. Do we not have a responsibility? Do we not  owe a debt to the elderly who built this  

Society but who now find themselves living  in fear and in deprivation? Do we not have   an obligation to all of those children being  brought up in abject poverty to take action?   Does that duty not extend to the 80,000 children  in Scotland who are punished by the two-child cap?

The two-child cap is an immoral, cowardly assault  by the Tory Government on defenceless people,   on children in the deepest poverty. It  is built on the grotesque fiction that   there is a deserving and an undeserving poor,  and that a woman will undergo nine months of  

Pregnancy and a family will invest 18 years  in raising a child simply so that they can   pick up more welfare payments for an extra  £15 a week. It is nothing short of obscene. So, to the Scottish Government, my message is  this. We cannot set legally binding targets in  

This Parliament to eliminate child poverty  and then break our own laws with impunity. But to my own party, I also have a simple  message. If not us, who? If not now,   when? This is no time for a truce with  poverty, especially child poverty. We  

Must overcome those irresponsible voices who  talk of economy, or worse, those who speak of   the money markets. We must understand that  people are the assets on our balance sheet. Throughout most of my adult life, there has  always been a debate about a cap on social  

Security spending. Why is there never a debate  about a cap on military security spending? There   is always a debate about what we can afford  to give to the very poorest in our society,   but there is never a debate about how  much we subsidise the very richest in  

Our society. We are told time and time  again that welfare spending is wasteful,   but what is really wasteful is writing these kids  off. Tackling child poverty is an investment,   but more, it speaks to our common humanity; to  the value of human dignity and social justice.

We know that two out of three of those children in  Scotland living in poverty are in families where   at least one adult is in work. They have got  a job, but it is a low-paid and insecure jobs. We receive reports about thousands of  children in Scotland in this day and age  

Admitted to hospital for malnutrition,  and the number is rising. Last year,   it doubled, but there is no shortage of  food; it is just that there are serious   problems with its distribution. And we know  where this leads. Children who are suffering   today from malnutrition will almost certainly  face health problems throughout their lives,  

Their life expectancy shortened. So we  do not need simply piecemeal reform—we   need a fundamental transformation in  the established relations of power. Let me conclude with the words of John Smith,   who on his election as leader  of the Labour Party said this:

“It is not just people who live in  poverty who gain from our commitment   to social justice and fairness. We  all live in the same society. It is   a poorer society if it is diminished by  unemployment, homelessness and poverty.” His words call out to us down the ages.  

They require to be heeded and  they demand to be acted upon. I am grateful to my colleague Collette Stevenson  for bringing the debate to the chamber. I was elected to this place just two and  a half years ago and have engaged in many  

Debates about poverty, but I am struggling.  I am struggling because time and time again,   we come here to discuss poverty, its effects  and the impact that it has on health, wellbeing,   educational attainment—I could go on. Time and  time again, the Scottish Government implements  

Mechanisms to alleviate that poverty in  targeted areas, such as the Scottish child   payment, which has been praised by many as a  game changer, and yet, time and time again,   those efforts are undermined by a UK Government  that has been hellbent on reducing welfare and  

Access to welfare for more than 13 years. A person  who needs support in Scotland simultaneously has   one hand giving it, while another, from  400 miles down the road, snatches it away. If we reflect on the 24 years of this still-young  Parliament, we can see that this place has flexed  

Its ambition for our country with the creation  of Social Security Scotland. It is not a silver   bullet—no organisation is—but it demonstrates  a clear intent to treat people who need support   with the dignity and respect that they deserve.  We should contrast Social Security Scotland with  

The Department for Work and Pensions, which, over  the past decade and a bit, has contracted private   companies to assess benefit claimants to make  sure that they are not scamming the system. People   with lifelong degenerative disabilities are still  required to present to an assessor frequently. If  

They do not, they face being sanctioned and losing  the support that they need simply to get by. Even with welfare benefits, getting by is  a struggle. The Tories’ benefit cap is set   at roughly £14,750 per year for a single  adult living outside London. In contrast,  

The real living wage is the minimum  income that it is calculated that a person   needs in order to be able to afford life’s basics.  The new rate announced today of £12 per hour works   out at a take-home pay of around £18,900 per  year, after income tax and national insurance.

We cannot have a Tory welfare system that is  difficult to navigate—in the hope that people   just give up—and makes inadequate payments. The  Tories have not even ensured that work pays,   either. George Osborne introduced the national  living wage as the legal minimum amount that a  

Worker can be paid, but it was nothing but a  con—a rebranded minimum wage. Outside London,   it amounts to more than £1.50 per  hour less than the real living wage,   which works out at £2,730 per year less for a  full-time worker on 35 hours per week. Is it  

Any wonder that the number of people in the UK  who use Trussell Trust food banks has increased   from around 26,000 in 2010, when the Tories  came into power, to almost 3 million in 2023? It is time for a different kind of politics.  Sadly, we have had no indication that  

That will come from Keir Starmer’s Labour  Party, which will not even reverse the   two-child benefit cap and rape clause, which  loses families more than £3,000 per year. While many welfare streams  remain under Westminster control,   I urge all parties to look to  Scotland and the ethos of our  

Devolved social security system. People  need and deserve dignity and respect.   Work should pay. There should be no more con  tricks—a living wage should be exactly that. During challenge poverty week, I encourage  colleagues to engage with the events so   that we are reminded of how important it  is to alleviate and eradicate poverty.

I thank Collette Stevenson for bringing  this important debate to the chamber. As deputy convener of the cross-party group on  poverty, I welcome the opportunity to support   challenge poverty week and to raise  awareness of the issue of poverty and   the interlinked impact that poverty can  have on all aspects of people’s lives.

As the motion outlines, poverty has many roots.  There are links between discrimination of all   kinds and poverty. As a society, we must  challenge poverty and discrimination. We   must break any stigma about poverty to  ensure that people who need assistance   are supported. That includes their receiving any  financial assistance to which they are entitled.

We should move away from the idea that poverty  is solely the cause of individual choices.   All of us in society have a responsibility  to help to tackle poverty, not least to our   children. The fact that there are 250,000 children  in poverty in Scotland today should shame us all,  

And we know that when someone is born into  poverty, they are more likely to die in poverty. For rural and island Scotland, the  challenges of geography can impact   poverty. Before the announcement last year  of the UK Government’s energy payment support  

Scheme to cover part of the cost of energy  bills, Shetland Islands Council predicted   that 96 per cent of households in the isles  would find themselves in fuel poverty. That   meant that only islanders earning £104,000 a year  would not be classed as being in fuel poverty.

We know that families and households across  Scotland are being pushed to the very limits   of their finances. Since the start of the cost  of living crisis, constituents have contacted   me with concerns about their energy bills and  their inability to pay them. I recognise the  

Points that Clare Adamson was making about  prepayment meters. In the 21st century, as   with any utility and necessity, the cost of energy  should not exacerbate or be a cause of poverty. Shetland’s location as the windiest part  of the UK and the most northerly island  

Group means that we often keep heating on  for longer throughout the year. Islanders   recognise the irony of living in and  around such an energy-rich environment.   Fuel poverty levels remain stubbornly high  in island and rural areas. A few weeks ago,   I questioned the Scottish Government  about its plans for this winter. The  

UK Government’s intervention on energy costs last  year showed that there can be policy solutions,   and policies that may not be directly aimed at  reducing poverty can have that added outcome. A   programme of Scottish Government support for  home insulation would be one way to improve  

Energy efficiency, thereby reducing household  energy costs and helping to tackle fuel poverty. Transport in rural areas is another example of  the geographic impact on poverty levels. Lack   of sufficient public transport can be a block to  accessing services. Health services are just one   example, but transport challenges also affect  employment opportunities, including childcare,  

Shift work and the ability to secure jobs  further afield from home. As the motion   suggests, that all has a disproportionate  impact on certain sectors of society. I kept my speech focused on the impact  of geography on poverty, but island,  

Rural, urban and inner-city areas all have  their own stories when it comes to poverty,   and geography is one small fragment of the bigger  picture. We must identify and dismantle the stigma   surrounding poverty. We can dream of a world  without poverty, a world where Government policies  

Support those who need them, a world without  demonisation of those who are being supported   by benefits, and a world where no newborn is more  likely to be born into poverty than any other. The Liberal reforms early in the last century  began the model of state policies that intervene  

To mitigate poverty. The Scottish Government’s  competence over social benefits is an opportunity   in the early years of this century to tackle  our ever-evolving understanding of poverty. I congratulate Collette Stevenson on  securing this important debate. I, too,   thank the Poverty Alliance for its tireless  and passionate campaign to end poverty.

Poverty robs people of choices and the chance to  lead fulfilling and dignified lives. It basically   strips the joy right out of our lives. Sadly, more  than 1 million Scots are grappling with poverty,   and almost half of those people  are living in deep poverty. Others,  

Who could never have imagined struggling with  poverty just a few short years ago, now find   themselves having to make unimaginable choices  between eating, heating and keeping clean. No   one should have to compromise their dignity in a  country as affluent and resource rich as ours. The  

Inequality that prevails across the UK is nothing  short of scandalous, as we have already heard. The Scottish Women’s Budget Group 2023 report,  “Experiences of rising costs across Scotland”,   highlights that women are often the shock  absorber of poverty in their households,  

With women commonly cutting back on life’s  essentials in order to better provide for   their children. A fifth of women surveyed were  skipping meals, and just under half were not   replacing clothes and shoes. One woman said  that the changes that she had made personally  

Did not apply to the children, and that they  do not go without healthy meals and showers. However, despite those selfless acts, women  cannot break the relentless cycle of poverty,   and the associated mental stresses often  have far-reaching consequences. Poverty  

Rates are higher among lone parents, too,  and 92 per cent of those parents are women. When someone has a single source of income,  limited job flexibility and childcare costs,   and is confronted with Westminster’s cruel  two-child benefit policy in a universal credit  

System that is described as an “insufficient means  of livelihood”, the pressures of being the sole   provider are often crippling and isolating.  That holds particularly true for mums and   parents under 25 years old—Collette Stevenson  referred to this earlier—who also lose out on  

£75 of universal credit per month just because  of their age. One young single mother said: “I don’t understand how someone over 25   gets more for being in exactly  the same situation that I am.” I find it hard to disagree with her.

This year, one of the Poverty Alliance’s  calls is for fair and sustainable funding   for third sector organisations. We know  the significant contribution that our third   sector makes to support our most vulnerable  communities, with many of them also actively   targeting the gendered nature of poverty and the  structural inequalities that undermine women.

I spoke recently to One Parent Families Scotland,   which provides vital support to lone parents  and children in Lanarkshire, where I live, and   across Scotland. It offers a telephone helpline  that is highly valued by communities. However,   the organisation told me that calls for advice  are increasingly becoming emergency crisis calls,  

As more and more families reach a cliff edge.  Its resources are being spread even thinner. I am certainly proud that eradicating child  poverty is a core commitment of Scotland’s   programme for government and that our Scottish  child payment is a world first—a game changer,  

As we have heard. However, we must still strive  to support our invaluable third sector in every   way that we can, despite the financial challenges  that our Government and the Parliament face. I congratulate Collette Stevenson on securing  this important debate on challenge poverty week.  

Tackling poverty and inequality is the single  biggest challenge that we face in Scotland,   and it requires continued,  urgent and sustained action. In Scotland, we are introducing a fairer  social security system—one in which the   stigma and conditionality of the Department  for Work and Pensions system play no part.  

There is no two-child limit, which is  favoured by the two parties that aspire   to govern at Westminster. Instead,  we have a Scottish child payment that   was increased to £25 and is described  by the Child Poverty Action Group as “an absolute game-changer in  the fight to end child poverty”.

I am the first to acknowledge  that more can be done,   and I welcome that we will review the  level of the payment in future budgets. In my home town of Clydebank and across my  constituency, the residents do more than challenge  

Poverty for just one week in the year—they do  it every day. Faifley food share provides a food   pantry for residents that is run by a small team  of volunteers. Dalmuir Barclay church community   pantry runs a food pantry, drop-in cafe, clothing  drives, indoor bowling and three craft groups. Old  

Kilpatrick Food Parcels offers a free food pantry,  chatty cafes for residents to have a warm meal and   a chat with others, movie nights for kids and  so much more. The kindness and warmth of those   groups and their dedication to help others and  challenge poverty is unmatched. The generosity of  

The whole Clydebank and Milngavie community, who  come together to support those who are struggling,   is a lifeline. I am grateful for what those  groups do, but it should not have to be this way. The existence of food banks in the 21st  century is an outrage. Unfortunately,  

Westminster policies—policies that  have inflicted decades of austerity   and dreadful cuts to social security—have  made them essential for many. The Trussell   Trust, which is the organisation that runs  around two thirds of the food banks in the UK,   went from giving out around 61,000 food parcels  in 2010 to giving out 2.5 million in 2020.

In 2022, David Cameron tweeted that he had been  volunteering at his local food bank for the   past two years. That is truly the starkest of  ironies, given that food bank usage went up by   2,612 per cent while he was Prime Minister. That  is not something to be proud of. In the face of  

The current Westminster cost of living crisis,  we need action from the UK Government that will   challenge poverty. We need the £20 universal  credit uplift to be reinstated and increased,   the abhorrent two-child cap and the rape  clause to be abolished, and the energy bill  

Rebate to be reintroduced to ensure that no  one has to decide between heating and eating. A report last year from Aberlour Children’s  Charity found that families that are in receipt of   universal credit are having their monthly income  reduced by, on average, £80 to cover debts such as  

Universal credit advances. At such a difficult  time for families, surely the Westminster   Government should suspend those deductions and  not reduce an already inadequate level of support. I am thankful for the work that the local  food pantries do in my constituency,  

But we should all fight for a Scotland where they  are not needed. No one should ever be unable to   afford the essentials. We want a just and equal  Scotland, and I truly believe that we can achieve  

Some of that with cross-party support. However, we  need a UK Government to act. With the current Tory   Government or with the Labour Party, which will  keep the two-child policy, we will never see a   truly equal and poverty-free Scotland; only with  the control of our own affairs will we see that.

I thank the members who have stayed for  tonight’s important debate, and I thank   Collette Stevenson for bringing it forward.  She is a strong voice for social justice in   the Parliament and outwith it, and I always find  her contributions well informed and insightful.

I enjoy it when we can take a cross-party  look at issues such as challenging poverty,   which could and should be a unanimous effort  in which we mainly agree with each other. I   welcome the comments from Miles Briggs about  the need to consider intersecting inequalities,  

And his shout-out for some Scottish  Government policies, which saves me a job. Challenge poverty week is an important event  in our calendars, or it should be. I have been   glad to hear of MSPs from across the chamber  making use of the raised focus and awareness  

To shine a spotlight on issues or to have  best practice in their constituencies. I will highlight Stuart McMillan’s contribution,  because he talked about taking a different   approach and holding cost of living surgeries  in town halls and other places that people go  

To for other reasons. This morning, when I was in  front of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil   Justice Committee, Maggie Chapman and I discussed  the idea of so-called hard-to-reach groups. She   described them as “easy to ignore”. What Stuart  McMillan has done—he is not alone in this,  

But I congratulate him on his efforts—is to go  where people are already, rather than ask them   to come to him. He brings support organisations to  people rather than signpost and hope for the best. Events such as challenge poverty week should  allow us to scrutinise our efforts to help  

Constituents—as any MSP of any party or none  should surely wish to do—and to pick up on best   practice such as Stuart McMillan’s. As Beatrice  Wishart put it, we all have a responsibility   to end poverty. I was glad to be able to visit  Tagsa Uibhist during challenge poverty week to  

Discuss food poverty and the extra challenges that  island communities face in accessing affordable   and appropriate food, and to get into the  issues that Beatrice Wishart described. Although energy is, of course, reserved, we  have reacted to the increased cost of living  

In the islands through a range of measures,  including tripling the fuel insecurity fund,   which I know is supporting various efforts  in island communities across Scotland. I   also know that colleagues across Government  used challenge poverty week similarly. The   First Minister met anti-poverty summit attendees  with lived experience of poverty, supported by  

The Poverty Alliance, continuing the focus that  he has placed on the issue since taking office. That is not to say that the Scottish Government  wants to challenge poverty only one week   a year. Tackling poverty is one of our three  interdependent and defining missions, alongside  

Growing a green wellbeing economy and improving  public services. It runs through everything that   we do, and all ministers are determined to do  their bit in their portfolios to create the fairer   Scotland that I think we all want. Last year and  this, the Scottish Government has allocated almost  

£3 billion to support policies that tackle poverty  and protect people as far as possible during   the on-going cost of living crisis. Modelling  estimates that, this year, 90,000 fewer children   will live in relative and absolute poverty as a  result of the Scottish Government’s policies, with  

Poverty levels 9 percentage points lower than they  would have been otherwise. That includes lifting   an estimated 50,000 children out of relative  poverty through the Scottish child payment. We have transformed social security provision  in Scotland—I cannot overstate that. I remember   being genuinely overwhelmed with emotion  when I visited Social Security Scotland  

In Dundee for the first time and heard just how  different the application process for disability   benefits is and how strong the support for  applicants is. On Marie McNair’s point,   we are the first nation in the UK to  publish a plan to end the need for food  

Banks. We are doing things differently  here, and it is making a difference. Clare Adamson referred to the recent Joseph  Rowntree Foundation report. I want to be clear   that the fact that destitution has risen less in  Scotland than it has in the rest of the UK is not  

A matter to celebrate. I cannot bring myself  to take joy in a lower rise in destitution   than in other countries, especially when we know  that, with more powers, more fiscal flexibility   or different UK Government decisions, the  trend could be going the right way: down.

We want to end destitution in Scotland. It is  welcome that our policies, within our limited   powers, are having an impact on destitution  being allowed to continue, but we want to do   more than mitigate; we want to lead on eradicating  poverty. Scotland has the opportunity to join our  

Neighbours in the European Union as an independent  nation that is fairer, wealthier and happier.   Scotland simply cannot afford to be shackled  to a Westminster system that is driving more   children into poverty, overseeing one of the  highest levels of income inequality in Europe  

And not only failing to react to but creating  situations that force people into destitution. Kaukab Stewart was right to point out that every  time the Scottish Government takes a step and   makes an investment to tackle poverty, we seem to  contend with yet another policy change, such as a  

Welfare cap, a cut or some other contradictory  action down south that makes our job harder or   even removes money from the same household  budgets that we are trying to top up. Sadly,   as Stuart McMillan pointed out, it looks like that  is set to continue, no matter who occupies Downing  

Street. UK Labour has signed itself right up to  some of the most punitive and cruel Tory policies,   such as the two-child limit, which can only  serve to further entrench child poverty. I was glad to hear Richard Leonard’s eloquent  take-down of the two-child cap. He was right  

To highlight the decisions that happen here.  Politicians and Governments get to choose our   priorities and what we want to spend money  on. The Scottish Government has made the   investment that he described, through the  introduction of the Scottish child payment  

And increases to it. I genuinely pay tribute  to him, as he is the first Scottish Labour   member that I have heard in a debate such  as this one unequivocally calling on his   UK party colleagues to take action on the  issue. I can only hope that they listen,  

Because I would much rather see UK Labour  commit to helping us lift children out   of poverty than have to keep bringing up this  disappointment in debates with Scottish Labour. Although, sadly, it is clear that too many people  still suffer poverty, we are making a difference  

While fighting against the tide. Just imagine what  we could do with the full powers of independence.

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