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The the Good morning everybody and welcome to CH live sponsored by the British Institute of kitchen bedroom and bathroom installation my name is Louis Mendes hope you guys are all well on your Sunday morning on this week show we’ll be looking back at yesterday’s one all draw up at barnesley slightly
Controversial one or Draw if you will joining me to have that conversation first up top right na Miller how you doing nafe yeah not bad mate living the dream yourself yeah good have a point on the board of course yeah of course as always get moving strongly to finish top half of
The table this year absolutely buzzing yeah uh well you take what you can get and also down the bottom of the screen he’s moved on from the twiglet it’s Ben CL how you doing Ben morning mate yeah twiglet is not really a breakfast uh material is it so
We’ve gone with a Twix today so if you see me eating it’ll be a Twix F me up nice healthy wholesome breakfast there for Benji cloak on his Sunday morning so as I said on the show we’ll look back at Barnsley we’ll hear the goals we’ll hear from
A slightly ey rate Michael Appleton following the decision to award barnesy their first goal yesterday maybe we’ll debate that a little bit we’ll debate um about the performance and uh chat about anything you want to really we also got a guest fan joining us later on in the
Show Chris Collingwood uh is going to join us um to have a chat about all things addict he was up there at barnesley uh yesterday we want you guys to join in as well morning to everyone who’s uh joining us in the YouTube chat orell let loose was the first one in
There to say good morning got Andrew’s in there Keith I run out of Simon Dudley’s in there um Paul’s in there Sam George Joseph Michael um let us know what you made of yesterday’s game any performances stand out for you good or bad um have your say on whether the ball
Was in or out because we’re going to have a a long chat about that I imagine in a few moments time um yeah let’s know if what you’d like to see between now and and Christmas as well we’ve got another week off um until the Burton game and then we’re into that busy
Christmas period so it could be an interesting um few weeks for us uh as as we continue our our strive toward was trying to stay in the playoff race um which we we’re sort of not quite at the moment but you know we’re not a million
Per out of it yet we’re probably only about 95% out of it currently so um yeah let us know what you want to talk about and N before we heit the goals from ton TV um don’t go too much into the ball in out now because I think we’re going to
Talk about that in in length after the goals but just on the overall performance yesterday what did you make of it I thought it was quite good to be fair I think um it’s just one of those strange ones really I wasn’t don’t know why I wasn’t very confident yesterday before the game
Um especially when I saw the starting lineup I thought I don’t know it could be a tough one here but I mean the the results obviously a bit disappointing considering how the game went but I thought how performance-wise um work ethic and everything I thought was absolutely fine I was quite pleased with
The um performance couldn’t really ask anything more apart from just that little bit more in the final third but yeah it’s just it’s just annoying that we gave those goals away against um Cambridge because if we had that win got a point away at barnesley we probably
Would have taken that but um luckily Wickam got the last minute goal didn’t they so it’s still a little bit in in reach but it’s obviously still an optimistic reaching um that we’re going for but yeah over overall I was satisfied if anything I thought deserved
At least a point I don’t know they they probably I think Ashley was busier than the two keepers so I might be contradicting myself there but I thought yeah I was quite quite pleased with the performance overall yeah as as you mentioned there the the late equalizer
For Wickham up at Derby meant that we’re only nine points off the playoffs instead of 11 um which which are two two pretty big mountains to climb but it’s ever so slightly nearer the summit after that Wickham goal but you know that is maybe clutching a little bit I i’ i’ I’m
So determined that we’re not going to have another boring end of the season like we had the last two years I think I’m making it up now that I think we can we can say we’re still in the race but anyway let’s have a listen to the goals
From Chon TV uh yesterday as always your commentators were Greg stubbly and Terry Smith Phillips across out looking for Kane but that might have too much on it Kane pursuing it and uh it does have too much on it oh no not according to the officials Kane keeps it in Dobson can’t
Believe it ball back across the penalty area and finished by Phillips CH are absolutely insens with that as to why that wasn’t ruled out with the ball over the line we don’t get replays here so we can’t see but George Dobson is absolutely incensed and bar Wonder up tell I don’t
Think the ball does go out I don’t think it does I think Dobson just assumes that I mean again it’s maybe slightly tougher for us to tell from our angle but my first thoughts was that Dobson is’s unaware that Kane’s off the pitch fix Kane’s long gone waits for it to go
Out Kane stretches his foot keeps it on and everyone stops Charles defense stops everyone stops but Kane’s allowed to drift into the P area 24 minutes of hard work for CH just been undone by a [Applause] mistake well the guys in the studio will probably have a better understanding of
Whether that was in or out behind just caught in his feet so cross the Terrell Thomas and now Eden on the left side brings inside to Edy but he’s looking for Campbell didn’t find him but he’s got the ball back to on the left again trying to find blacket Taylor might
Divert into blacket Taylor’s path can he finish Cory blacket Taylor yes he can the adct have The Equalizer there was a ball into the penalty area took a deflection blacket Taylor kept his run going and as a result was behind the Barnsley defense and into the edge of the sixy Box Jin on
His right drilled it home brilliant composure from blacket Taylor spoke about Charon needing a bit of lack in this game they haven’t had a lot of it that little header from I think it was Williams as the ball forward by Eden just Falls lovely into the path for
Blacket Taylor continued his run beyond the barsley defense he took another touch back inside to open up the space for the shot and his effort there nothing Roberts could do about it in the end it was edin who looked to poke it forward to him Williams’s touch just allow blacket Taylor Advance forward
Takes two touches inside and rifles home CH never deserve the equalizer overall in the match say it comes at a time where bar look the better make the exact same point I was going to say nobody in this Stadium can deny that CH Deserve The Equalizer but it comes from the back
Of the time when B were in the Ascend for the last three or four minutes there we go that’s the highlights from CH TV thanks to the chats for the commentary and to pups for organizing the recording as always so I mean let’s get straight into it then Ben in or out the
Ball that seems to be the major talking point point from yesterday um what was your view on it well look it is I know you were saying on Twitter about the curvature of the ball and the different camera angles we had to see so is it’s hard to say I
Mean it did look did look out on there but you just have to go with George Dobson’s reaction as well for me it’s all good saying play to the whistle I always think those things are like if you think there’s a hand ball and you will stop or there’s someone you thinks
Offside you’ll stand it with your arm up you always they play to the whistle there and you stop and then they go and score but with something like that I just think Dobson stood over the ball you kind of shielding it out of play and
You watch it go out of play and you’re like okay yeah it’s done the ref stood what about 15 meters away from him um I don’t know why he looks across to the liesman the linesman’s never going to see it from the other side um so yeah
It’s one of them is it you kind of don’t want to blame George in a way because if you’re a player and you put yourself in this position you stood over it watching the guy out play and then they go and score from it you then instantly go
Plays the whistle but then you also think for him he’s watch the go out of play so yeah it’s what I did personally when that goal went in I was like oh is your heart drops when they cross that ball in and you see them on March like
This guy in but yeah hard to say whether in or out but if you go with reaction like that say it’s out yeah I mean I I disagree slightly with Ben I think I still think there is an element of of you have to play to the whistle there I
Mean George George stopped because he thought he was out but is taking a chance with the you know the lineer on the far side was never going to get it as Ben said that the posts are in the way there’s bodies in the way the referee I mean if he’s if you think
About it he’s he’s looking from a similar angle to to to where the camera comes from he’s F he’s further down the touch line it’s very hard to see um I mean if George had if George had played on and just tried to put a bit of
Pressure on Kane I mean he might not have catch caught him up you know maybe we’re being a bit harsh on him anyway but n yeah it’s it’s a tough one as Ben refers to there we haven’t got a conclusive angle we’ve got some angles that make it look like it’s probably out
But you know if anyone remembers that Japanese one in the World Cup last year the ball can look like it’s out from one angle but without having the one sort of in line with with with with the goal line you can’t be certain that there
Isn’t just a tiny sliver of the ball you know realistically we know the ref’s guessed let’s get that out there we know we know he doesn’t know for certain and we’re just a little bit unlucky that he’s guessed that way I I have to say
But yeah we we can’t be certain it’s I’m I’m not as certain as as a lot of people in the chat seem to be no yeah I think it’s it’s one of those ones really as you said you cleaned up quite well to be fair it was one of those games where the
Ref’s given it against us and there’ll be another game where it’ll probably go for us and he’ll give it to the defense defending team to be fair we got away with one last week with Ashley to be you know when Ashley tried seeing it out and
They got they kept it in but yeah the Lineo was never going to see it the ref the ref the only way the ref’s going to be seeing it is if he’s literally standing next to the players and he’s not going to be in that position because obviously the the left backs is
Obviously the Lineo job so the only way the ref is ever going to see that if he runs right where where the ball is which he’s never going to do so annoyingly yeah it’s gone against us to an element is uh playing to the whistle as I think
They should be um but again that’s not I don’t really want to dig out George Dobson or anything because as Benji said you can tell by a lot of the players reactions is if of what the outcome is for example there was a corner where barnesley set up for a goal
Kick and then they he gave barnesley a corner it’s things like that where you can you can really sense it because a lot of players will shove their arm up for anything nowadays but most of the time if it’s a blat and you know decision going against them they’ll just
Leave it but yeah I agree as well you had the Arsenal Newcastle game as well where you had the whole thing with Gary Neville with the whole angle and that looks even probably more on like the ball was out than our one and then it turned it transpired that it you know
With the Angles and stuff it was actually on or whatever or vice versa so you’re never going to know we’re never going to know and I think they reacted quicker they scored from it one of those things but it the more in thing was how
Well we played in that first half um if we were under the Kos the hold of that first half and then they got that goal you think well you know they sort of sort of deserved it a little bit there but I thought it was a kick in the um the old
Walnuts shall we say and um yeah but I mean the good thing was the response from the players in my opinion yeah and then and we did respond well we had started well and that’s why it was so frustrating to to concede as Alex says frustrating goal we shouldn’t rely on
Officials at this level to get decisions like that correct and even if so I mean I’m going to mention the fact that obviously a Phillips it was was unmarked when when he scored the goal and the way he drifted into the penalty era but if we are giving the players the benefit of
The doubt and they did think it was out and they stopped which again maybe they shouldn’t have but that that’s what’s happened it does go to show that if if if in a normal sort of moment of play the second you lose any concentration people can really take advantage of that
So Phillips because he saw CH have stopped he knew he knew he was in the right position on the edge of the box to find a bit of space and it just shows how how switched on you have to be all the time and all hell let loose felt it
Was out Michael felt it was out Keith says it was out but that’s our luck uh right now Mike also pointing out that we should have had a penalty in the first half as well yeah there was a cross from the left hand side I’m guessing it was
Cory it might have been T I forget but um yeah it looked like a hand ball with the arms out and again you’ve seen the the slow motion replays of it the way the arm is out and it’s not like the ball only came in from a yard away it
Was certainly a bit further it probably should have been uh penalty and Paul Davenport says to misquote the great John mackenro the ball wasn’t on the line paint didn’t fly uh up so yeah frustrating the way that happened but the performance particularly the way we started the game Ben I was actually I
Was actually really pleased with that because you know we mentioned on on on Thursday show barnesley aren’t infallible at home you know they they they’ve uh I think they’ve lost as many as they’ve won at home I think I think that was only their second draw at home
From memory in the league but we we we took the game to them um and that you know that that first 20 minutes or so was part of a spell where it certainly the performance pleased me because we’ve spoken a lot recently about how results you know draws the OD draw here and
There the win here and there not losing many but the last few week’s performances haven’t been great and and and we address that yesterday which is probably the most pleasing aspect of of that point yesterday yeah definitely I thought it was quite a consistent performance I thought both Hales we did we played
Quite well in rather than last week that Cambridge game we were pretty non-existent in that first half and then came good in the second half um I think na I saw naif Tweeter one time a little like Tage was running through treal and uh yeah he was he was the only one of
That front line that kind of looked a bit um he’ gone missing a little bit I don’t know if because he played with these players last year they just knew how to Mark him out of the game um because we that barcy fan said didn’t he
When he came on on Thursday they didn’t really see a great deal of him to Hope he’d come back again um but yeah I thought we we did look really Lively it was just that end product wasn’t it I think Cory looked really good down that
Left hand side and there was a great chance um where he if he just cuts it across the middle of the goal Alfie’s there for a tapping um but he decides to shoot and hits into the side netting I think chem had a shot which he got
Himself in a really good position um but it just he just rolled his shot straight into the Keeper’s arms but yeah yeah as you said we we did look Lively we were playing around some good football Fraser Chen was drifting in and out Alfie was
Drifting in and out from the wing he was a nuisance so it was pleasing to see and and as I said that I think both halves we look really good so that was pleasing to see that like an improvement in that um and then even when Daniel CaRu come
On I think he made a difference so that attacking um even though we are without a lot of players up there at the moment I still think with still proven like to be a fall in the defense side there yeah just looking at some more comments that
Have come in Dudley said the ball look behind the corner flag to me uh P said the ball’s out but you have to always play to the Whistle the whistle Kei says Doo’s body language alone told everyone in the stadium is gone out all hell let loose says George was in the best
Position to tell if the ball was out or not looking right down on it and he was Furious it wasn’t given as a goal kick but obviously you’re always the players are always going to act in the way that the the decision should have gone in in
In their favor that’s that’s just what players do you know if you can all if you read everything off body language every time we have a shot we should just start celebrating and pretend we’ve scored and then then see if the ref will start giving us a few a few goals yeah I
Mean Andrew’s asking n if we’ve seen the the last of tedit I do ask Michael what he made of sloban tedit yesterday which we hear in the interview but he didn’t he didn’t slag him off or anything like that um but he was quite I there was
There was jering again when he came off from the away end not a great deal that you could hear a bit of it like the sort of sarcastic cheering when he got subbed off for Dan carne um I mean he had a good good effort on goal didn’t that
That one where he turned and whistled it just wide of the top Corner um but yeah there’s probably elements of what we saw about not really being able to get him into the game enough and and him not getting in the game and holding the ball
Up uh as much as we would have hoped yeah I think I mean yeah apart from that he had that shot and then there was there was that one bit of play where he managed to hold it up and feed it through to Cory and I I don’t know if
He just ended up overrunning it um or shot in and it the keeper saved it or something but I think in terms of um is it the last time well no I don’t think because we’ve got another three games until we can go back but I mean once
That once that’s after once that’s been undone I think I can’t see him being here any any longer I mean if we want to have to make a late charge to the playoffs that we’re saying every week but the time’s running out um I don’t think you’ll be hanging your hat on
Tedit for the rest of the season just I in my opinion I just don’t think he’s mobile enough I don’t think he’s not a player that run a channel like Kan like Benji said conu done well yesterday against Cambridge got an assist for a it I just think he’s not mobile enough to
Try and play that um that way um so yeah I mean I’m I feel for him a little bit because I don’t think I’ve seen him too much but everything I’ve seen him I’ve never been like oh he’s a good player you know if if he was an alien and said
Right if you can pick one player that’s from Man City you wouldn’t pick tedic um and I’m sure he’ll have a career somewhere but I don’t think they’re going to going be Rec calling him to replace Harlem with if he’s still injured in janary put it that way yeah
Well that’s an interesting point put in the chat which of our players is most likely to play for Man City Nathan’s Nathan wants to know now um Ben should Dan conu have started yesterday then it’s a weird one is it because um we haven’t seen Ted even on the bench
For the last couple of games so I I kind of felt like that Appleton had pushed others ahead of him especially after Dan came on last week and played so well against Cambridge and just proved to be that presence like for the goal he held the ball up so well and allowed others
To come into play and obviously we got the goal um whereas tedes just doesn’t I just can’t see what his qualities are whether he holds the ball up what I mean that twist and shot he did yesterday you like okay that was that was decent like
Let’s see a bit more of that but we just don’t so yeah there’s a kind of a presence there with CaRu and obviously CaRu is hungry he’s just come off the back of a a lone spell where he’s looked decent at and he’s like ready to go and
And to be honest it’s a shame that we have brought him back because you want to give these youngsters the experience of of playing men’s football just the same with deji really um but with our injuries up front we brought him back in and yeah he’s he’s hungry and raring to
Go and you just like that’s the kind of thing you seem like lacking with Ted it’s just that hunger uh maybe he kind of thinks it’s over in January for him and just uh playing out the rest of his time here I don’t know but you look at
Someone like Alfie and I think like and chairman Cory yesterday I think they stood out really they non-stop drifting in and out of the Wings always wanting the ball and I just I that’s what I said I don’t know if Bary Defenders kind of thought like we know who he is from last
Season this is how we’re gonna play him um because you you do think that hunger surely has got to be there where else is he going to go after this he’s I doubt he’s going to go in City he’ probably again another League one side maybe for
Him yeah we need to start cutting his rations down the training ground don’t we getting really hungry um Dan CaRu obviously not getting enough food if he’s if he’s that hungry George saying CaRu look great Off the Bench yesterday The Equalizer 20 minutes from time naif
I me is it was very similar to his goal against Wickam for Corey where he picked up the ball and and he was sort of drifting in and for about five seconds I just go shoot shoot but he he was more composed than I was it was a great
Finish but I mean before we talk about Cory maybe talk about Teo he played ball forward for the goal na um I think you said something nice about him on WhatsApp after the game you know there’s a couple of times I thought o’keef had him in the second half on the right but
What what did you make of his o his overall performance I I I actually quite liked yesterday I I think we were very um uncomplimentary of him against Gillingham and rightly so um but for me for me I thought it was his probably um his most positive performance not
Polished but I thought he got around the pitch very well I thought he was involved a lot um when we were pushing for the winner at one all he was still sort of hustling and harrying you know coming inside trying to press the ball so yeah I actually um thought tyo done
Okay yesterday I thought it was he was getting more towards um to what we what was sort of expecting um but yeah I know there’s going to be some elements of his defensive play which ain’t going to be up to scratch but I think Appleton likes to play with attacking fullbacks really
So I think we’re just got to get used to it but yeah I was impressed with Tyle yesterday um hopefully it can continue because it’s been a while since we’ve been yearning for a uh a proper left back so at least he’s got a left foot
This time we ain’t cutting in so yeah I was pleased with him yesterday to be honest yeah Dean said he thought that uh ta was the man of the match yesterday dley says na I don’t think any of our players look like they’ve come from Man
City uh that’s a danger of being in League one is it you don’t have those well class players that we that we used to have when we were in the Premier League like uh you know red Kish sh and that um Simon Says tedit loaned out to
League one says it all about him which is probably fair but Paul says it’s not saying much but I thought tedic looked quite sharp at times yesterday given his lack of Mobility he’s nothing more than a Target man a poor man’s uh stockley right let’s get a I mean the Corey
Finish was a great finish eighth goal of the season in all comps Ben uh what is he on assist maybe six or seven assists now in League one as well I mean he is absolutely flying obviously our second top scorer behind Alfie who’s like a on
A bit of a go drought now I think he’s gone um has he gone one game without scoring which is a bit bit concerning but we’ll we’ll uh we we’ll worry about that we worry more about that later um but the the chat in the week so
Obviously we know we know that the discussion regarding Cory’s um contract we don’t know if he’s going to stay or go in jary we don’t know these things at this point in time but one of the things I couldn’t get my head around during the week was people saying he wouldn’t be
That big a Miss now this is this is aside from the conversation about if he’s not going to sign a contract then you might want to get money for him understand that part of the conversation understand that that’s a slightly different thing to what I’m talking
About now but if you take him out of our football team Ben he’s not easily replaceable I was shocked by a couple of people saying they think he’d be easily replaceable at this level I think that’s Madness oh mate I totally agree with you I mean I’ve sat in the north Florida a
Few times this season where obviously fans are a bit more vious and you got people like na down there ranting and raving and that and uh he gets a load stick Corey um there was one game and I think it was when he um scored that absolute screamer um and we pulled it
Back to 2-2 against Blackpool and people just I think it’s I think it’s frustrate it is frustrating to see someone like who’s a real Shining Light in our side um who doesn’t consistently do what you think they’ve got but also we got to realized we’re in League one like over
Apart from someone like jez the obviously was was amazing for us last season who I’d say Obviously apart from a few blips did it quite consistently we haven’t had someone like him I think Liam Miller thought there was glimpses where he saw of him and you got frustrated and you
Thought oh come on like really push yourself but someone like Corey as you said youve just got to look at the stats more than anything and the goals and assists and he just a constant nuisance um and yeah as we spoke about on Thursday with the contract situation
Um he he’s still giving it his all like he might go in January who knows like will we try and get a bit of money for him if he’s not going to commit rather than get nothing through the end of the season but I mean even his celebration
Yesterday when he scored he like stood in front of the fans and patting the badge and like he’s given it is all still I know at times we fans like a look at him he don’t look like he wants it today but then again if you’re a
Winger and you’re trying to get down a wing and you haven’t we’re struggling since Chuck has been out I think that’s um I didn’t think Miles was at his best when Chuck was out I don’t think because miles didn’t have that other person pushing him of didn’t see the best of
Miles and then now miles is injured who do we have in the box ready to aim for when Cory’s cutting in and trying to trying to get cross back to I mean yesterday we had Ted it like as a Target man but before that we’ve been triing
Alfie up there on his own which doesn’t seem to have worked um so I I do feel at times is frustrating for him um because since those injuries we haven’t had the presence up front to provide for him and of course if you then Tyrese hasn’t been
At his best so then you’re isolating one player down one side and the defense is just gonna shove all their attention on him rather than if we had Tyrese one side and him the other side then you kind of got less attention on him so I
Do think you kind of forget that don’t we at times but yeah look it does get frustra with him sometimes but if if he was better then we wouldn’t have him would we he wouldn’t be in League one yeah and as as you say and I’ve always
Said this I feel like Wingers are probably the most inconsistent performers because they’re the ones who have to make something special happen uh and Corey over the last year has become a lot more consistent that doesn’t mean he’s going to be at it every game as as
All hell let L says when when he plays badly CH play badly and and and that could be the case and and Keith quite rightly points out that he should have squared for Alfie in the first half that shot where he hit the side netting Andrew reckons if if he goes we’ll have
To set up differently Joe said he’d keep out he’d pull out all the stops to keep him even if it is for one more season um yeah all hell L saying teams like to double up on Cory that’s when Eden should step up as the free uh man um
Yeah Dudley saying he’s so up and down great Pace but sometimes I worry about his brain um I run out of milk saying Alfie has wasted out while just swapping with chem I mean yeah I think all hell that loose asked quite early on in the
Chat would wide or 10 what’s his best role for Alfie and I was I was actually really fascinated watching him in the first half yesterday cuz he was sort of right in front of where I was sitting um on the right hand side when we were attacking the home ends watching the
Amount of time he drifted into the middle from the right hand side I think I honestly think him playing out right isn’t isn’t as bad as we fear as some people fear it is you can see him his movement is very clever even when the
Ball’s on the far side he’ll get in the middle and almost become a a second Striker naif yeah no exactly a second Striker the way he he’ll play the only problem when we do play Alfie on the right it then forces your hand to play down our
Left which at the moment works with Corey so then you get the overloads of Eden and um Cory on one side M shift inside and then you leave that right hand side which is fairly vacant which is great but then if they if the other team then block off our left hand side
You’ve then got Alfie stuck stuck out on that ride where he’s not really that effective in a wider position so but I agree I think for me Alfie should be I’d play him in a 10 a lot more I’d get someone out wide and play him in a 10
And let him just do what he wants because he’s got the energy and the agility to move around the pitch freely so he’ll he’ll join up with a two he’ll go help out he’ll Chase and Harry that’s why I would play Alie um I just think
When he plays out on the right it literally just forces us down one side of the pitch instead of we could switch it and then so if if Cory gets double Mark like someone just said which happens frequently if he then releases and then you want to do a switch to the
Right you’ve then got teni and another Winger to then go that side but at the moment we haven’t so um but I’d like to see Alfie as a 10 um and someone a little bit more agile with mobile up front yeah I guess the question there is
Is currently who who could be on the right wings so chair could maybe go out there Tyrese is out of form at the moment not getting picked Dudley said Alfie just should just be given a free run role is that good in this division that that is I feel that’s effectively
What he’s got cuz like I say you see him drifting he’s he’s really good though that Sam would like to see him uh as a 10 or up front in a two right shall we hear from the addict manager Michael Appleton came to speak to me after yesterday’s one draw at barnesley and
This was his thoughts on the game point and a good performance today yeah it was yeah should have been should have been a winch on it um yeah we were we felt like we were up against everything today and um to performance on the way we did and
Control game for the majority of the game like we did was uh really pleasing um I just hope and I believe and I know the players believe with me that you know eventually you know all all sudden them type of decisions that we’ve seen today will start going the other way
Have you had a discussion with the referee about what he saw or didn’t see there I’ve had a few discussions with the referee and uh yeah I haven’t had much out of him uh but um but you know his his call was it the the the fourth
Official the linesman has to make that call even though he was probably three times further away from him um but it’s not a call to make it’s I mean it’s not a call to make it’s it’s not close it’s not you know uh it’ll be one of them where
They’ll sort of show it over and over again or if it was in the Premier League it just cause absolute Carnage um so disappointing but yeah the main thing is the way we dealt with it and the way the players responded from it uh was was top
Dra a couple of fans saying George might have learned from that maybe to play to the whistle even when it seems like a clear decision no well it’s easy saying that but what the point I was going to make you can say sometimes they made an honest mistake and I’ll use the phrase
See it out see it out he’s seen the ball out the ball is miles over the line it’s a yard over the line so I can understand that cuz he’s quite an experienced player but the reality is if it was a foot half a foot foot whatever then I
Can understand that but like when I watched it I mean I felt at the time I was like what’s going on but when watched it back it is so far over the line it’s just yeah inexcusable yeah had started really well and the most important thing was you reacted quite
Well to going behind as well today yeah we did probably should have had a penalty as well in that first half it was a clean hand ball um so yeah a lot of things went against us we were asked a few questions and come up with good
Answers today and even the second half we were on the front foot right from the the kickoff I think we think we had an attempt at goal right from the kickoff um as well in that second half so really pleasing couple of times Cory and too linked up quite nicely and obviously
That ended up in in the goal I mean cor showing his worth to this side over and over again at the moment yeah he is and you know to be fair he kept going and going I think he was suffering a little bit um cramping up a little bit before
Before he even got the goal and again a little bit after it so he’s putting the shift in and um you know he good to see him getting rewards for the shift that he’s put in how do you see sort of the bigger picture at the moment because it
Is six games unbeaten now but obviously chn fans will look at the table all season Still Still I think nine outside the playoffs I mean do you just try and concentrate on on the short term at the moment I think we’ve got to I you know
It’s one of them where we just got to concentrate us and pick up as many points as we possibly can and you know you’d like to think that you know with 10 12 games through all the season we’re in a position where we can really push and challenge at that point I’d expect
Obviously one or two sort of reinforcements to walk through the door in Jan so you know we be better come the turn of the year but what you’ve got to be careful is is obviously you know I can only focus on my job in hand my job
In hand is to try and make sure that we stay in the some the sort of run we are at the minute you know that’s I think 14 games now in the league and only two defeats you know it’s not not too bad um and I think as well is that because we
Got such a poor start you know losing four the first six games we were right on the back foot so I think as a group over time I think over time over the period of games the closer it gets to obviously New Year the closer it gets to
Maybe like Easter it’s just we’ve just got to keep plugging away and plugging away and try to cut that Gap a little bit short see slan came back into the side against his his former club today what did you make of his performance yeah I thought he did did all right I
Thought he did okay he I thought he got better in that sort of second half but he was struggling a little bit Fitness wise he’s not had as much game um you know he listen he played his part there was some really really good performances today and um you know it’s difficult to
Pick out sort of too many um but all over the pitch um there wasn’t many players who were you know under seven out of 10 today it’s nice to have a a free week as well building up into what is a bit of a chaotic period coming up
Over Christmas as well yeah it is yeah it is and obviously it’s the same for everyone and the Valley’s been good since I walked through the door and hopefully it be uh good over the Christmas and New Year period thinking about a new kitchen or bathroom find professional independent local
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Michael Appleton after yesterday’s draw um up at barnesley yeah I mean you heard the answer to the the the tedit question um yeah all hell pointed out that Michael said the ball was a yard over the line so unless he had a different angle than the one I had you know I
Don’t think you can say it with with the certainty that that Michael has said it there but like say we’ve been over that um already um now um yeah Michael said he thought Eden looked good Again Sam um saying the overall performance is positive but we can’t have most of the
Ball and chances and come back with a point it just shows we need a striker in January and yeah you know on another day it would have been nice to have gone and taken all three yesterday um but if and when we don’t get promoted this season barsy away getting a point
There that won’t be the reason we didn’t go up you know I think that’s a good result overall I think that we’ve had we’ve had much worse days than that and days in other games you know car where we should have taken fre points but um yeah that that’s that’s the way I
Saw it yesterday and Paul’s just saying Cory’s final ball can sometimes be awful but it’s more than made up for by the assists that do find their target the attention and respect opposing teams must pay him he’s the only uh spark right um I think we should bring in our
Guest fan um we still got a few of your messages to come to as well but Chris Collingwood has been waiting very patiently uh in the waiting room for a while so let’s bring him on to the the stage now Chris Collingwood uh good uh good morning Chris how are
You oh are you on mute Chris uh I can’t hear you okay um I’ll let you try and sort that out okay Chris I I’ll just put you back in the waiting room just while you uh just try and fix the uh the the microphone for yourself um but yeah saw come on
Yesterday he’s got he’s got something um quite interesting that he’s wearing as well which we’ll talk about when he when he sorts his microphone out so while we’re waiting um I will just head into an email um that we’ve uh we’ve got in from mcsquare it says the ref’s eyesight
Was so poor yesterday I think is beyond even Specsavers help that aart it was a pretty decent away away performance from us we definitely deserved a point Dobson and Mayar Brew both had impressive games and may gave us his all as usual tedit on the other hand was once again
Virtually invisible and it was no surprise when he got the hook in favor of CaRu we were arguably the better side overall but as often being the case this season it was our final ball that frequently let us down let’s face it we currently only have three Championship
Standard players uh in the shape of Corey Dobson and may which is nowhere near enough to mount a serious promotion push Mickey apples is doing the best with the players he’s got available to him but four draws and just a solitary win from the last five matches tells its
Own story the upcoming transfer window is going to make or break off season that’s for sure yeah I mean if you look at the Run of results nafe you know I think Michael referenced there it’s six six without defeat but only two wins uh
In that in in that time um that is that is sort of the frustration of it you know like it’s we this is realistically why we’re probably not going to be able to catch up is because we we’re just not putting enough wins together it’s similar to the start of the Garner era
Like we’re getting a lot of draws and and and that’s just not not going to be enough at this stage especially you know like I say we we were a minute away from being 11 points outside the playoffs yesterday um we’re in a we’re in a difficult position we have to be
Realistic about that yeah we got I think it’s annoying because obviously when you’re drawing you’re not losing but you’re not winning at the same time though so as you say we’ve got a lot of ground to make up and although it’s you know I’m saying it’s a
Good point away which it is in you know in in the gr you know in the not the grand schem of thing but looking at our season we need wins and if we was if we was comfortable in the six and we took a point then you’re looking at again okay
Draws are not too bad but when you’re chasing a pack down you need to make the ground up and the draws aren’t going to do it especially if the team’s in and around those playoff places or even the top half they’re they’re stringing a couple of wins together we’re falling
Falling behind and it’s looking a little bit more like it has been in recent years where we’re just sort of mid-table so yeah it’s disappointing but again we’ve got to try and keep some sort of um optimism there so we can have something to look forward to for the
Rest of the season so even though nine nine points is a big Moun to climb it’s not impossible we’ve seen it I know every year we say this but we saw that season where Oxford we in the bottom three and managed to get into the playoffs That season
And it’s just us being consistent but unfortunately you don’t know which Chon’s going to turn up at the moment are we G to get a draw are we gonna turn up like we did against Gillingham or we gonna turn up like we did against wigam maybe yesterday so um and I think that’s
The key and why where we are where we are because we’re not consistent enough to try and maintain that top six challenge right we don’t know what charon’s going to turn up we don’t know what Chris collingwood’s going to turn up let’s try again hoping the the mic’s
Going to be working this time Chris can you hear us no still not still not working unfortunately okay so I’ve sent Chris a link on Twitter uh to do a mic test which is sometime which is worth doing um yeah hopefully you can have a look at
That um which is fine uh hope hopefully Chris will be back in in a few moments time yeah um I mentioned it before Ben and I can’t I I can’t face the reality of us going into the the final third of the season with nothing to play for for
The third year in a row because it’s so boring um so may so I mean what what is a realistic aim between I I’ve said between now and the end of the calendar year if we could pick up seven points from those those three games and obvious
We got Burton and Leon orian coming up and then we’re away to Bristol Rovers all of those teams sit below us in the table if if if we’re going to even hope of just just to cling on to staying roughly where we are we probably need seven seven points does that sound
Realistic yeah I think we’ve got to stay in in some touch and distance towards the playoffs haven’t we um to give ourselves that boost going into the window to try and draw some players in to give players an um a what was that what word am I trying to give an
Incentive to Jo join our club and say look we’re going places if you join we got him joining and we’re really going to go in for playoffs this season um and and we’re not far away are we from kind that Cambridge game and yesterday we we’re doing all right with the team
We’ve got I mean we’re missing three key attacking players aren’t we at the moment um and obviously we’ll be without miles for the rest of the season you don’t know with Chuck so if we need to act early in that window but yeah if if the next few games unless Burton bring
An ex Mill will manager and and do what Cambridge did to us and mess of our EDS so I don’t I still don’t think they’ve got a manager yet have they Burton um we we’ve got to be looking especially the we’re at home next game um we’ve got to
Be looking to to win that game um I don’t know if we’re gonna have any other players back for that game but yeah we we’ve got to head into the next few to try and get seven out of the next three games because it’s doable that that game
Yesterday was the hardest game we had um going way to a team above us I think they scored the second most goals in the division as well um so I thought our defense did quite well yesterday I thought Terrell and um heck I thought I thought they had quite a good game
Really because Devante Cole is such a dangerous Striker obviously Ash made a really good save at one point as well he tipped over the bar um yeah so yeah look yeah seven points for the next three games it’s doable Burton got beat yesterday confidence is down no manager
At the moment so they’re there for the take him uh yeah well hopefully we we’ll see how that how that works out I mean we’re not I don’t think we’re expecting anyone until the new year in terms of injuries based on what Michael appon said on uh
His press conference before the game um on on Friday I think he he spoke um Dean saying apart from holding up the board and getting the managers booked what does the fourth official actually do surely he could have seen the ball went out and and helped the ref out but again
Like I mean obviously he’s much further down the line so there’s no way he would have been able to see but also so that there’s still there’s no conclusive footage and I don’t know if he would have even had access to to a different camera angle but there’s no there’s no
There’s nothing I’ve seen that’s conclusive that the ball actually went out it looks like it might have gone out and probably went out but there’s no there’s no definite uh Keith says you don’t get promoted you get you don’t get promoted over 46 games not one away game
At barnesy and I agree with with Keith on that um but he also added you don’t get promoted by all playoffs by constantly drawing games we need a Boya like second half of the season but we don’t have that quality of of the squad now and yeah that is fair so I mean
Again if you look at the the points we sort of require now to to get to get into roughly the average amount needed for playoffs and again I don’t know if we might be skewing a bit higher this year but we probably have to pick up
About 1.8 G points per game for the rest of the season so I mean sometimes you see a team pick up maybe two points per game over the course of the Season which is um sort of rare but it shows how hard it is
And to do that you got to be one of the best teams in the division Na and you know we’re not oh we if we if we’ being brutally honest we’re not one of the best teams in the division no not consistently no so um I think that the
Problem we’ve got now is we’ve got a small Squad with loads of injuries and we’ve now got four games in nine days after Burton which if you’re going to try and freshing things up a lot of teams a lot of teams have injuries as well but a lot of our freshening up with
Putting a load of kids in um so even though we’re probably hoping for seven over you know the period and then you’ve got Oxford on New Year’s Day I think we’ll do well to get we’ll do very very well to get that amount of points um
Even though they are we are playing you know teams that are lower in the league um it’s just a big ask for to ask those players to do it consistently three games in a row in a space of what seven days or whatever it is up until Bristol
So you need for us to have a any chance yeah we’re going to have to bring those averages up but we’re which I think everyone’s been saying it’s it’s a massive it was going to require a Herculean effort to get there um it’s not possible but yeah it’s going to be a
Big task but who knows who knows what the JY window is going to be like you know we could end up getting some players out including Cory maybe and then he gets it to reinvest in the squad and we have an amazing second half you never know but um something’s got to
Change because I think at the current state of players that we’re just going to l be in a win a draw a loss and then all the way for the season in my opinion right Chris’s uh laptop is is not working giving up the ghost unfortunately so we won’t be having
Chris coling which is a shame because uh he had a really nice talking point he was wearing a waste coat one of the ones from the 98 playoff final suits presumably mugged one of the players after the game but yeah so that been a nice talking point and and he was up
There in uh in Bary yesterday but as he says in our little chat he says two weeks running you’ve had bad refs and no guests so yeah frustrating but thanks thanks to Chris for trying and we we’ll definitely get him on uh another time um because yeah I’m sure he’s got loads
Loads to say Lee has sent in an email an email saying overall I think uh the best I’ve seen is okay for the 90 minutes away from home uh this season as for the ball out of play scenario I was in the front row in the corner and I was sure
It was out it was a terrible decision by the referee I even offered him my glasses as he went down the tunnel which is one of the many this season the pens at stevenage Portsmouth so I’m sure we must be due some luck our way soon and yeah maybe
We’ve got luck at other times and not really thought about it but yeah um Jack saying in the chat we are a mid-table league one team our expectations from fans too high uh where we are now is actually not bad for us I’d say I mean that’s absolutely the wrong attitude for
Me Jack like if we’re just going to sit here and be accepting being a migt league one side then we’re going to continue to fade away as a club and we’ll be playing in front of 8 9,000 every week I mean that that’s completely the wrong the the the wrong attitude for
Me you know why what what’s the point like Hey we’re rubbish let’s let’s continue being rubbish and everyone be fine with it you know again some of us will still go but a lot of people stopped going so yeah that that’s completely the wrong uh the wrong
Attitude for me um I I really think I really think we we like I say I said it last week Ben I don’t think people are accepting it anyway that you can see that the Crowds Are dwindling you know that we we can’t remember in League One
Forever we can’t say this is good for us as well no you’re right I think we all struggle with the motivation come February March time because if you’re not going up or you’re not trying to stay up then it is is a struggle trying to get your motivation to go to games
Often many people just go as an excuse to meet up with their friends and then watch the game and hope for the best um but yeah I think that’s why the Jan transer window is key to kind of get fans through the door to kind of give
Him some exciting football and look like we’re going somewhere um but yeah I agree mate I think you got if if you’re gonna say comments like that um I think you’ve got to look at the rest of the league and really justify our 11 now against other teams in the league and
When we’ve got the likes of Alfie May George Dobson someone like Hector I know he’s not doing it consistently but we got a players on paper we should we should be higher up leag with injuries or not um and budget we have I’m sure our budget’s the top six budget that
We’re we’re paying out as well um so yeah we we don’t want to I mean going back to what Andy Scott said this club won’t sell for mediocracy anymore well it’s coming up for a big time now isn’t it where we’ve got to show that um but
Yeah we we need to we need to go in thinking we are better than this we need better than this as a club yeah and again like we we at the same time we don’t need to get too bogged down in us saying that or or other fans saying I
Think this is okay it doesn’t really it’s irrelevant what we think overall it’s up it’s up to the club to to know that they can’t be sustained in in League one and and and to put that right and and to do do it the way they need to
I mean Massie said we need proper investment and to keep our best players where we will always be a nearly team uh if the owners uh won’t put their hands uh in in in their pockets and and yeah like I say the the longer we’re in League one the harder it becomes but
Also the the worse the the state of the club’s finances and and fan base and all that sort of stuff will be it’s um it’s it’s sort of Perpetual cycle of mediocrity makes it even worse so I really don’t think we want to be uh in that position yeah someone mentioned in
The chat ear actually na we didn’t really bring it up but I mean Ashley man Bru made a fantastic save uh from a long range I think it was from Herby Kane who hit a Long Ranger that was going towards the the top Corner which was tipped over
But yeah what did you make of his his display yesterday he he needed um needed one I think after maybe last week where he had a couple of nervy moments like the one where he came out of his area and missed the ball yeah he did I think yeah I think he
Had a solid game yesterday um I think yeah he seems to be improving as he goes along but again as you say he’ll have sort of moments but he’s he’s still learning he’s you know still young I mean it’s only what his second full season in it it will two and a half
Maybe but um yeah I thought he done a good we always know he’s a good shot stopper I think there was um that podcast ages ago at Rob Elliott was on with Ben Foster wasn’t it and he was saying he was one of the best um shot
Stoppers that he’s seen and it’s just about him polishing the other stuff the only thing that does concern me with asash is his communication skills with um with the back four I think there was a there was a chance yesterday where there was a deep ball and over hit cross
And I think dobo headed it out I think it was Doo um and he was sort of saying you know well where’s where’s the shout you could let me get you know let it roll out or you could have come and got it it’s just that but I don’t think
That’s just solely on ash I’ve been banging on about our our lack of communication across as a team anyway so but I yeah he’s he’s he’s he’s coming along nicely and he’s obviously getting the games under his belt and he’s improving as he goes along but yeah
Great decent shot stopper he always has been always has been since he’s coming the team so yeah Delight for ash yeah um Paul’s saying that Andy Scott talks a good game and all hell let loose says that the problem is that Charlie mevans says one thing and Andy Scott says
Another while Rodwell says nothing ma Massie says that they’re like a set of of politicians and that’s why you know I think it’s been spoken about a lot but exactly how this window plays out will be very very interesting for for supporters Ben and will probably be a
Good indicator of whether the club are doing what Jack said and sort of you know saying oh we’re a mid-table league one Club let’s let’s just continue being that this is fine um you know the actions need to the words need to be sort of backed up by actions now and
They have spoken quite well about it but yeah it’s it’s got to be it’s got to be improved upon yeah definitely I think that it was tricky in the summer because well as fans looking in because while we were all so baffled by the dean Holden uh
Sackin was because then we had no time left for a manager to come in and approve the new transfers that we signed in that last week so now we’ve got to a point where Appleton is trying to play with the cards he’s been given and some
Of these players we all can see aren’t aren’t good enough the these signings like the likes of a ban um that we just kind of they’re sitting there doing nothing and using up a loan space that we could have used on another player so you hope that they’ve been working
Behind the scenes and as soon as January the 1 comes we can either see some players loans ended so we can bring some others in um we can act quickly because look we know miles is going to be out for the rest of the season it’s not
Thinking oh well we can’t get another player in because that takes up his spot and he’ll be back soon we I don’t know when they’ve said Chucks might be back but look we know with him we can’t rely on him um and we know the positions we
Need fill in like another Center back if a bank was not going to be around um that that’s been a key position for us and I’d probably say another Winger to kind of give a bit more of um uh attention to to the right side because Tyrese’s performances are dropped but
They they’ve had enough time now to work with Michael to get these Targets in place and you hope that they act quickly because as I said with with the injuries we’ve got I mean another player that we thought was going to be massive for us
Was pan we know he’s going to be out for quite a bit longer um so that’s where we’ve got to act fast because it’s it’s like we’re our season then if you try and act by the end of January there might be 13 14 15 points off playoffs
And then there really isn’t much to go for yeah I mean dean saying I say it every week but you won’t get players in the January window that will change our season Keith on Ashley man BR said he’s still learning he’s going to be a great goalkeeper we have nobody better than
Him uh either and then Paul said Ash went to a local schools tournament the other day and remarked that some of the Keepers were barking at their Defenders so hopefully he he’ll learn from that that is that would be concerning if we’ve got our goalkeeper going to to
Learn from children it’s like all that’s how they do it um yeah Chon fans says maybe a hint of our best player blacket Taylor staying yesterday with his celebration yeah Ben mentioned he was giving it the old bang in the chest but you never know what that means with players these days
Andrew says let’s hope that Appleton and Scott are working closely together and they c yeah they certainly need to be on on on the same page you know we spoke about Michael Appleton’s comments last week um you know and he certainly hinted that we need we need better Windows than
The one we’ve had in the in the last couple were exactly what he said so yeah we need we need better um we should mention Tom actually um we should send our best our best wishes to to Tom lock here the former addict Defender who um sadly collapsed again yesterday down at
Bournemouth while playing for Luton I think they said he had had a kak arrest so um yeah that was such a shame you know he was we weird I don’t think he ever stood like stood out as much for us as he seems to be doing for Luton like
He was a solid defender in the chionship but one thing I did know about him during his time here was that he was a real like a proper bloke as well like the way he dealt with people in and around the club and you know had some
Really nice stories about Tom so it’s such a shame to to see that he’s he’s been suffering again and and obviously we we’ll send our best wishes to him and and everyone down at Luton um who who who went through that yesterday yeah I mean I was trying to
Just as you were saying that I was trying to think of that one game we were at home and it’s probably one of the best defense Ive challenges I’ve ever seen in my life someone was oneon-one and Tomy loia came out of nowhere and I it might have been barnesley at home I
Think but anyway I digress but yeah it was one of the best challenges I’ve seen from a center off um but yeah sad to see it yesterday and he can play piano Connie I remember the lockdown video when he played the piano um we had a we
Had we had a little band at one point had Jacko on the on the guitar didn’t we should have just made a band we would have been better than watching the football but um well we did we had sangar didn’t we he named his own he named his band sound God [Â __Â ] weird
Was sorry yeah you did yeah that just there came back just came back to the PO oh i’ got I’ve got to learn how to edit a YouTube video now I don’t know how to do that oh goodness right apologies I apologize on Nathan’s behalf for riling
Me up there and making me do that um Trum fans says retirement is the only option they can’t be allowed to play again health is is more important doctors can’t have the feeling of having killed someone so yeah and all hell let Lo is saying can’t see Tom returning to
Professional football a second time sadly obviously yeah he he’ll he’ll act on doctor’s advice and whatever decision has come to we we we wish him uh wish him the very best and CH fan says yeah sadly the best for him and and and for everyone involved right we’re coming to
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Beating you in the quiz on uh Thursday night yes we are back on go on na make sure you wash your mouth out with soap as well aren’t you I’m going to have to now very bad behavior it’s normally Nathan who does a swearing as well so I
Can’t believe I’ve done that but yeah um yeah make sure you join us on Thursday so that’s going to be our Christmas special on Thursday we’ll briefly look ahead to the Burton albian game uh but of course we will have our Christmas quiz uh which you guys will be able to get involved
With in the comments um yeah so hopefully that’ll be a bit of fun um and yeah then maybe we’ll be back on Christmas Eve to look back at the Burton game but I I’m a bit undecided on that at the moment it depends on people’s availability and and uh how how how much
I I mean if we lose I might not be bothered but we’ll see uh we’ll see uh how it goes so yeah thanks to everyone who’s listening to us uh this morning CH live sponsored by the British Institute of kitchen bedroom and bathroom installation we shall see you again for
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I used to watch AMB at ECU Joondalup. He has always been a great shot stopper, even in his early days.