Squeeze the tire bead into place, fix one lever at a point on the rim, and use the second lever to work it in about 1 cm at a time.
West-Combination6685 on
hawk tuah, spit on that thang
Weird-University1361 on
Soapy water helps. Gloves help. Also, make sure you’re in the middle of the rim all around. You’re almost there, shame to give up now.
komokazi on
Get the wider pedros levers
Aggressive_Ad_5454 on
OK. Here’s step one.
Remove the knurled nut that cinches the valve stem down.
Step two.
Push the valve stem a little ways into the tire.
Step three.
Work the bead of the tire into the canal in the rim. The cinched-down valve was preventing it from going into the canal.
Step four.
Put a bit of soapy water on the bead right at the spot where you’re trying to pop the last of it over the rim.
Step five.
Pop.
Step six.
Put the nut back.
Step seven.
Crack open a brewski.
tw0tonet on
I put on my full finger mtb gloves to help.
Spare_Blacksmith_816 on
kool stop tire bead jack ( sometimes you just need it ).
There is a trick with a rope/shoe lace. The videos look very convincing.
LameTrouT on
Also check the rim for if it’s a symmetrical. If so there might be just one way to put on the tire . Take it from me this could save a lot of hand ache
kurai-samurai on
Some tyre/rim combos just leave your tendons in tears.
That said, it doesn’t look like the tyre is in the centre channel, should be able to free up a bit more bead.
Admiral52 on
Time to wait till tomorrow till the give-a-damn meter fills back up
inDefenseofDragons on
You want the last part of the tire that you’re trying to get over the rim to be positioned at the valve, because the valve takes up some space that makes getting the tire on just a little bit harder so you want it to be the very last part of the tire you get over the lip of the rim. Hope that makes sense..
So you should start opposite of the valve. Get the tire on to where it gets real snug and you can’t get it on any further (like you have it now) and then go back opposite the valve and pinch the tire so that it sits in the middle of the rim, and keep pinching the tire until you get to the part of the tire that isn’t over the rim. That should create a little slack. Try to get the tire over the rim now. You’ll probably have to repeat this a few times.
That’s always worked for me.
Landiemanny on
Tried one of these buggers? Not failed me yet
No connection, aside from one being with me every ride.
put some ice cubes on the wheel to retract the metal 😛
joejacksonsbelt on
I’ve always heard you want to close the tire up opposite the valve. Not sure if it makes a huge difference but I had a stubborn one today I eventually got. Good luck!
cozza1313 on
Remove the valve nut and push the stem as far as you can in, then work the tire so that the last part go on is opposite the valve, then from the valve walk your hands around the tire peeling back and pushing down on the tire this is to get it into the center of the rim were the most amount of space is from there you should have enough room to get the last part over.
The temperature matters too, I’ve found that tires stored in a cold basement are almost impossible to mount.
sulliesbrew on
FINISH AT THE VALVE STEM!!!!
If you aren’t finishing at the valve stem you are loosing a large portion of the lower channel in the center of the rim that give the tire the space to be installed.
Pull the half that isn’t mounted, start at the 12 o clock from the valve stem and work your way back to the valve. Make sure the tire bead is as close to the center of the rim as you can get.
In the future, don’t buy TLR tires if you are going to run tubes. It just adds extra difficulty mounting tires. The good news, once they are mounted and stretched, they get easier to mount.
verbless-action on
Get a carbon rim.
Then you will give up at the moment you damage your rim with the levers.
erin281 on
Put it in front of a heater or heat source for like 30 minutes
rowingnowhere on
I am with you on these p-zeros. You have gotten further along than I have though. I have a pair of Reynolds AR 58s wheels and I just cannot get the last 8 inches or so over the rim. I have tried talc, soapy water, using a belt to press it into the bed of the rim and no luck. I finally got the one side i did get on off the wheel and put the tire in the oven at 185 degrees for 10 minutes, redid the rim tape and now I can’t even get the one side of the tire I did before back on the rim. I actually damaged the new rim tape I put on trying it with a lever. These MFrs are tight! I am going to try it on a different wheelset and see if I can get lucky because I do love these things.
Michael_of_Derry on
What rim tape are you using? I had a desperate triathlete come to my shop the day before a race. He kept pinching tubes when levering the tyre on.
I found it a struggle to get the tyre off. When I did I found he had eyelet plugs plus two additional rim tapes. The eyelet plugs would have been enough on their own.
Some OEM rim tape is thick plastic. It worked ok with the OEM tyres supplied by the bike manufacturer but not aftermarket tyres.
You can replace the thick plastic rim strips with a wrap on tubeless tape. This gives extra room when installing tyres.
in-your-own-words on
I have had good luck using a few small spring clamps to pinch the beads together so they stay in the lows spot in the center of the rim.
pimpslap39 on
There is a technique. Not all can master. It is known as “a moment of focus”. In that moment you must take all your life’s energy and focus it on a singular task. Your task is to mount this tire. If you use this energy, and your hands are not slippery, you will succeed. But, it will cost you…
SFGetWeird on
I have mounted TT, Gravel, Road, MTB tubeless tires by many different brands. I wasn’t able to get these exact tires mounted, they are f’ing terrible.
FabThierry on
Best tip and always worked for me is just going around 1-2 rounds with the hands and „massage“ the part of the tire already hooked a bit – this will place it more central on the rim(the deepest part) giving you enough room to never need any tool to put one a tire.
It’s gaining you so much room due to the big diameter of the wheel one doesn’t need any force at all
ZiggyDole on
Insert your tire levers, stand the wheel up and brace it with your feet on either side. Pull up on the tire levers. Works for me every time, even on Contis.
Tan-zania on
After what felt like enough force to snap the tire and the levers I got it! ….now I have to do it again 😂 there is blue chips of park tool level plastic everywhere.
I started using a ziptie to secure the tube and tire to rim so the bead wouldn’t walk off the rim. This has allowed me to use a tire lever to coax the bead on. Careful not to puncture the tube. Tried all the other stuff. Soap, heat etc to no avail. This method has worked for me
garciakevz on
Based on how much tire bead is still left unseated, might be a technique issue.
Park tools on YouTube with the mustache guy for tips
CobbledbyRoubaix on
come back later when you are re-energized. i suggest longer and stiffer levers too.
lingueenee on
Here’s my rule: if I can’t mount (as opposed to removing) a tire without levers, it’s the wrong rubber for my purposes. That’s why I don’t bother with tubeless road: it’s made a frustrating knuckle-busting epic out of what used to be a five-minute routine job.
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Check TikTok, search for how to make that with a cord, the thing is to have the exact tool to make it.
here the trick: you must keep it in the canal in the rim. then it will be very easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=VkIAGiK62Kg
edit : i gave wrong link
Saw this on FB. If it works, let us know.
https://youtu.be/Lq28GfgHnwQ?si=eQRs59zgGw_M5JZh
Squeeze the tire bead into place, fix one lever at a point on the rim, and use the second lever to work it in about 1 cm at a time.
hawk tuah, spit on that thang
Soapy water helps. Gloves help. Also, make sure you’re in the middle of the rim all around. You’re almost there, shame to give up now.
Get the wider pedros levers
OK. Here’s step one.
Remove the knurled nut that cinches the valve stem down.
Step two.
Push the valve stem a little ways into the tire.
Step three.
Work the bead of the tire into the canal in the rim. The cinched-down valve was preventing it from going into the canal.
Step four.
Put a bit of soapy water on the bead right at the spot where you’re trying to pop the last of it over the rim.
Step five.
Pop.
Step six.
Put the nut back.
Step seven.
Crack open a brewski.
I put on my full finger mtb gloves to help.
kool stop tire bead jack ( sometimes you just need it ).
There is a trick with a rope/shoe lace. The videos look very convincing.
Also check the rim for if it’s a symmetrical. If so there might be just one way to put on the tire . Take it from me this could save a lot of hand ache
Some tyre/rim combos just leave your tendons in tears.
That said, it doesn’t look like the tyre is in the centre channel, should be able to free up a bit more bead.
Time to wait till tomorrow till the give-a-damn meter fills back up
You want the last part of the tire that you’re trying to get over the rim to be positioned at the valve, because the valve takes up some space that makes getting the tire on just a little bit harder so you want it to be the very last part of the tire you get over the lip of the rim. Hope that makes sense..
So you should start opposite of the valve. Get the tire on to where it gets real snug and you can’t get it on any further (like you have it now) and then go back opposite the valve and pinch the tire so that it sits in the middle of the rim, and keep pinching the tire until you get to the part of the tire that isn’t over the rim. That should create a little slack. Try to get the tire over the rim now. You’ll probably have to repeat this a few times.
That’s always worked for me.
Tried one of these buggers? Not failed me yet
No connection, aside from one being with me every ride.
https://tyreglider.co.uk/
Butter knives work wonders
put some ice cubes on the wheel to retract the metal 😛
I’ve always heard you want to close the tire up opposite the valve. Not sure if it makes a huge difference but I had a stubborn one today I eventually got. Good luck!
Remove the valve nut and push the stem as far as you can in, then work the tire so that the last part go on is opposite the valve, then from the valve walk your hands around the tire peeling back and pushing down on the tire this is to get it into the center of the rim were the most amount of space is from there you should have enough room to get the last part over.
Zip ties as a last resort
https://youtu.be/gLpMA1a6ic0
The temperature matters too, I’ve found that tires stored in a cold basement are almost impossible to mount.
FINISH AT THE VALVE STEM!!!!
If you aren’t finishing at the valve stem you are loosing a large portion of the lower channel in the center of the rim that give the tire the space to be installed.
Pull the half that isn’t mounted, start at the 12 o clock from the valve stem and work your way back to the valve. Make sure the tire bead is as close to the center of the rim as you can get.
In the future, don’t buy TLR tires if you are going to run tubes. It just adds extra difficulty mounting tires. The good news, once they are mounted and stretched, they get easier to mount.
Get a carbon rim.
Then you will give up at the moment you damage your rim with the levers.
Put it in front of a heater or heat source for like 30 minutes
I am with you on these p-zeros. You have gotten further along than I have though. I have a pair of Reynolds AR 58s wheels and I just cannot get the last 8 inches or so over the rim. I have tried talc, soapy water, using a belt to press it into the bed of the rim and no luck. I finally got the one side i did get on off the wheel and put the tire in the oven at 185 degrees for 10 minutes, redid the rim tape and now I can’t even get the one side of the tire I did before back on the rim. I actually damaged the new rim tape I put on trying it with a lever. These MFrs are tight! I am going to try it on a different wheelset and see if I can get lucky because I do love these things.
What rim tape are you using? I had a desperate triathlete come to my shop the day before a race. He kept pinching tubes when levering the tyre on.
I found it a struggle to get the tyre off. When I did I found he had eyelet plugs plus two additional rim tapes. The eyelet plugs would have been enough on their own.
Some OEM rim tape is thick plastic. It worked ok with the OEM tyres supplied by the bike manufacturer but not aftermarket tyres.
You can replace the thick plastic rim strips with a wrap on tubeless tape. This gives extra room when installing tyres.
I have had good luck using a few small spring clamps to pinch the beads together so they stay in the lows spot in the center of the rim.
There is a technique. Not all can master. It is known as “a moment of focus”. In that moment you must take all your life’s energy and focus it on a singular task. Your task is to mount this tire. If you use this energy, and your hands are not slippery, you will succeed. But, it will cost you…
I have mounted TT, Gravel, Road, MTB tubeless tires by many different brands. I wasn’t able to get these exact tires mounted, they are f’ing terrible.
Best tip and always worked for me is just going around 1-2 rounds with the hands and „massage“ the part of the tire already hooked a bit – this will place it more central on the rim(the deepest part) giving you enough room to never need any tool to put one a tire.
It’s gaining you so much room due to the big diameter of the wheel one doesn’t need any force at all
Insert your tire levers, stand the wheel up and brace it with your feet on either side. Pull up on the tire levers. Works for me every time, even on Contis.
After what felt like enough force to snap the tire and the levers I got it! ….now I have to do it again 😂 there is blue chips of park tool level plastic everywhere.
https://preview.redd.it/fao61x26rnrg1.jpeg?width=2036&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d401ca2ca453969995cf082248e0e5acc431ada
I started using a ziptie to secure the tube and tire to rim so the bead wouldn’t walk off the rim. This has allowed me to use a tire lever to coax the bead on. Careful not to puncture the tube. Tried all the other stuff. Soap, heat etc to no avail. This method has worked for me
Based on how much tire bead is still left unseated, might be a technique issue.
Park tools on YouTube with the mustache guy for tips
come back later when you are re-energized. i suggest longer and stiffer levers too.
Here’s my rule: if I can’t mount (as opposed to removing) a tire without levers, it’s the wrong rubber for my purposes. That’s why I don’t bother with tubeless road: it’s made a frustrating knuckle-busting epic out of what used to be a five-minute routine job.