If you’ve hit a cycling fitness plateau like I have how do you get get faster on the bike without buying expensive upgrades? I chatted with pro cycling coach Andy Turner to find out the answers surprised me
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Everyone loves riding fast, don’t they? One of the best feelings on a bike, but if you have been riding for a while, you probably hit a plateau. So, how do you actually level up your speed? To really understand why so many cyclist stop improving, myself included, and what to do about it, I sat down with pro cycling coach Andy Turner. He’s worked with riders from beginners to world tour pros. And in this video, Andy breaks down three key workouts that can genuinely help you get faster on the bike. So, let’s dive in. What can I do? What workouts can you recommend to help you get faster? So, I think a lot of especially with online training plans, they tend to focus on your zone 2 endurance, your sweet spot, and your threshold work. Those tend to be you’ve seen it referred to as like the bread and butter and the best bang for your buck training doing sweet spot of threshold intervals. But you adapt to training based on the stress that you expose yourself to and you need to adapt the stress that you expose it to to get training adaptations. Um so if you’re just doing endurance sweet spot and threshold, yeah, you’re probably increasing some of the power gradually on those. You’re changing the duration of them. you’re doing small changes, but overall you’re not giving your body as many new training stimulus as you could be to get a greater gain over a shorter period of time. So, there are sort of three workouts and one off bike workout kind of structure that I would recommend to a lot of people. Um, so if we start off V2 max efforts, they are horrible. They hurt. They make you feel tired and they are absolutely brilliant. Um, so you’ve got the components of boosting your aerobic ceiling because you often hear about threshold work and it’s in reality there’s another threshold, your V2 max, the maximum amount of oxygen that you can take up and use to generate power. Um, and a lot of professionals, they can work at a very high percentage of that V2 max. Okay? Whereas a lot of us tend to work at a lower percentage of it sustainably. But if you can say you’ve boosted up your threshold as high as you can go, it’s not going anywhere further. you’ve reached your peak aerobic performance. You can’t increase the amount of time that you can do this power or go any further up there. So, if you can then boost your aerobic ceiling, you open up the door to increase that threshold again. Okay? So, that’s a kind of workout where you’ve got two very quantifiable aerobic performance games. They’re just quite hard sessions that you kind of need to build up to be able to do those. Whereas sweet spot and threshold, I think it’s fair to say generally they’re a bit easier for beginners to do. So as you are reaching those plateaus, you want to find new workouts to do that are going to add a new training stimulus. The other one which is more like for road racing focus are glycolytic efforts. Okay? So that’s where you produce energy via breakdown of carbohydrate anorobically without oxygen through a process called glycolysis. And you do that through glycolytic enzymes, breaking down glycogen, generating ATP very quickly, but generating a lot of fatigue. They’re really good for road racers because the kind of efforts that you get, those big attacking efforts or say like a short sharp climb to the finish or even a point to attack to go into a breakaway, one to two minute efforts are what you need to be able to do there. Big efforts to drop everyone else. And you don’t improve that capacity without doing those sorts of efforts and doing them quite carbed up. So more glycogen availability increases the generation of more glycolytic enzymes as a training adaptation. So for those who are doing road racing or even short hill climbs, okay, that’s an effort that is sorely missed out on. So short, sharp efforts win races. Generally, if you want to win races, especially over in the UK where it’s not particularly hilly, glycolytic efforts absolutely essential. How those efforts compared to doing a V2? Are they very different in terms of the uh intensity? So, your V2 max, it’s a combination of the duration and the recovery because you want a really high peak heart rate. You can achieve V2 max during threshold efforts, but generally your V2 max workouts are 110 to 120% of threshold and you’re doing them for maybe 3 minutes on, 3 minutes off for five reps, or you start increasing that to four minutes on, four minutes off, 5 minutes on, 5 minutes off, you’re looking at having that high sustained heart rate and these above threshold efforts. uh whereas your glycolytic capacity is around 130 to 150% based on the effort duration because one minute versus 2 minute you can’t double the length of that and maintain the same power. Got it. Um and different riders different ratios um in terms of what they can sustain. And then the next workout point would be sprint work. Okay. And we’ve already mentioned with sprinting that is important for winning races. A lot of the time it comes down to a sprint unless you’re away solo. So being able to basically use your muscles in a way that they are moving quickly and generating maximum force is useful for elements with pedaling efficiency. Um generating peak force and improving that and recruiting more muscle fibers is really important for fatigue resistance. So when you’re doing long rides, your legs get fatigued, your muscles get fatigued. But if you have a greater capacity to recruit type two muscle fibers, your sprint fibers or the neurons are activating more as the motor unit activating more muscle fibers at once, you can generate more power and generally also helps with fatigue resistance. So sprint work’s interesting in that it can have quite a positive effect on not necessarily things like your FTP, but perhaps how tired you might be at the end of twoour rides. So if you townside sprint at the end of your group ride, it’s not just peak power. It’s also producing it after doing other workload. So then you’re getting into your durability side of things. But in terms of the sort of power percentage you do those at, they are maximum efforts. It’s the percentage will vary massively. Chris Room’s max sprint was maybe 200% of threshold. Chris always maybe knocking on 700%. So little bit difference. Big difference. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you’ve got track sprinter versus road rider, GC rider in particular. So those it’s just maximal efforts. You’re not looking at percentage of FTP to maintain for them. It’s just a case of sprint as hard and as fast as you can. Yeah. And then the one outside of that, another reason for why people might be plateauing is strength and conditioning work off the bike. Yes. Which we don’t do enough of. I’m guilty of that. Cuz cyclists are traditionally very bad at doing strength work. We go into the gym and we think, “Right, let’s keep our heart rate as high as possible for as long as possible.” So, lots of reps, lots of exercises, no rest in between. Great. I’ve worked hard. I’ve burnt however many calories. It’s not doing anything more than if you were just doing that on the bike. you’re just making yourself tired. So, the big thing that people are looking at now incorporating with cycling is specifically strength and power training. So, you’re lifting big weights very slowly, but maintaining good form and posture and then doing maybe four to five reps, maybe six on certain ones. And then you rest in between. You rest and recover so that you can do them again without being tired at the end. You don’t want to be doing enough reps that you’re starting to lose your form and get tired out. And that really generates that the neuromuscular activation that we’ve mentioned with sprinting um where you have the motor unit recruiting more muscle fibers. When you do strength work in the gym, the biggest gains you always see in the first few weeks. There’s no increase in muscle mass. It’s just more motor units recruiting more muscle fibers. So more power produced and more power is useful for on the bike. Um and then you move into what you call your power phase which is you drop the weight but you increase the speed. So you still have a high amount of torque but you’re moving it much faster and you have to progress to that because if you do it incorrectly you can injure yourself. So that’s why building up to these are so important and that’s going to really help with sprint performance. um the short sharp accelerations and again also improving just overall muscle function. So yeah, strength work is it’s becoming a lot more common now. You’re seeing the world tours implementing it more. There’s more talk of strength work in cycling. It’s good that people are doing it in this low rep ratio. And the same with power work. you do that quite low number of reps, quite a lot of rest in between rather than treating your gym sessions like an aerobic session on the bike. Yeah. But those are probably the main workouts and areas to focus on if you’re feeling that you’re hitting a plateau in your training because you introduce a new training stimulus. It’s targeting areas specifically that improve cycling performance. And it’ll feel tough initially, but the body will adapt to those by getting stronger and better at completing them. Equally with those, if you keep doing them and you don’t do other components like your endurance riding and such, you will hit a plateau that way as well. Okay. The body’s quite clever. It adapts to the stress that it is exposed to. Yeah. So to really get the training gains and benefits, it’s adjusting the training stimulus and the training stress and varying it and giving your body something new to adapt to each time because you’re doing your V2 max efforts. It increases your aerobic performance. That’s going to then increase the capacity you can work at at your threshold. So then when you introduce threshold, you’re working at a higher level and you’re getting better training stimulus from that as well. So, it’s using it all in conjunction, applying it at the right times in the right phases will get you the most return for your training and over a long period of time as well, avoiding hitting those plateaus. I mean, there’s always a physiological limit, but we’re seeing in like with the world tour riders, they keep going a level beyond what we think they can do. Crazy, isn’t it? And Pagata is a prime example. When he changed coach, it was one of the things they said they changed was implementing more strength training. Yeah. And you see his seated acceleration is massive power generated at a high speed and it just leaves people for dust and his capacity produced to power at the end of rides when everyone else is fatigued and on their knees or at the end of stage races. That’s the big training game that’s coming there and riders are just leveling up all the time. And a better understanding of the different training stimulus that you can apply is part of that. and also the fueling aspect of things. But yeah, hopefully that answers gives some good ideas for workouts for people to do. I definitely Yeah. Yeah. Three good workouts which all sound horribly painful and some off the bike work which might get me a bit closer to Talia Pagach’s uh level. Hope probably not, but a little bit closer. Um yeah, let us know what you think of those workouts down below. I’ll put a link to Annie Crossite down below as well. And yeah, I’ll um I got some work to do. But thanks for sharing some uh some tips on how to get faster. You’re very welcome. Thank you much.
37 Comments
I feel like Andy has a PhD in pain and suffering.
Bugger. Thought there was going to be a quick fix, short cut, easy solution but it seems hard training is the only way. Oh well, as you were.
yeah I just like riding along singing my song anyway soooooooo I will just stick to my average 21 mph
So basically: cyclocross. Just race cyclocross in the winter. (Plus weights.)
I would imagine you need base fitness first, good advice for someone who wants to race but your regular club rider 🤔 next episode ride your bike more, on an all road/endurance bike and enjoy it, good to see something different, would be good for a deeper dive into training for different age groups
I usually ride around 30k a day, every day. I've noticed that I'm noticeably quicker if I get a day or two rest. Then, the next time I ride, I feel like an ancient god. So if I were to participate in a crit/race – I would probably take a few days of rest. But since I'm cycling mostly to maintain physique and weight – I prefer to cycle everyday and burn calories that I can later use for drinking beer or eating cookies. 🙂
Buck up soldier and go climb an MTB. That'll get ya there!
Great advice. One thing is you also need to incorporate long rides at or below LT1(AKA Zone 2) to build up the ability to handle higher levels of aerobic endurance and peaking values.
What you're basically saying is if I'm not blowing out of my arse with my legs turning to jelly I'm not going to progress?
More Andy please.
Ah thought it was going to be as simple as buying a new bike 😜
Great video – beautifully to the point ❤.
Last year I got through the Etape after a training regime that was basically lots of Z2 with one VO2 max session and one fun ride (all zones) per week.
This winter I’m doing gym twice a week which means less Z2 – it’ll be interesting to see what difference it makes come spring!
A good few years ago, my riding really plateaued big time, no matter what I did training wise to get the speed /power and endurance up it just didn't happen. Due to my job at the time that was highly phyiscal with an abundance of very intense baseline levels as standard for the work day and adding my daily commute by bike, lets just say I was in very very good physical shape and not just on the bike only.
Could I my get my endurance, power & speed improved on the bike , no way in hell was it happening, until reading a research acticle regarding the biological difference between men & women in relation to food (breakfast) intake needs for safe intense exercising in activating a better body use of energy intake – for women some food is actually needed before intense exercising safely, wheres for men going without food is safe for intense excercising upto a safe limit point.
So I stop having my breakfast before going to work while still keeping my normal efforts on the bike in trying to get the increases body wise, my bike commute to work wasn't that long time or distance wise but enough to make for a good intensive interval work out before starting my normal physical stuff at work. Once at work I would have my breakfast at first break time and I also adopted the feeding habits of a bodybuilder – smaller meals more often so the intake was high to suit my energy needs but not system overloading.
That when the results really kicked in fast, like in less than a month's time. From been utterly plateaued to daily increases in power, speed and endurance, my bike commuting times dropped from about 25 minutes no matter what I did to under 20 minutes average with ease for the same distance each way. It wasn't just my riding fitness that improved dramatically but my overall physical levels as well, I went from been very very fit too been astonishing fit with a serious amount of muscle mass baseline density gains and the highly athletic physical shape of a competition swimmer/bodybuilder (google search "Kratos " from the first GOW video game for an idea on what that looks like).
Yeah I did the hard yards but it was worth it, even years later after the bad injuries & other heatlh conditions stopped the more physical side of my life, the good gains have stayed even into my 50's.
That was really good ! Thx
Thanks, great content, lot's of valuable insight in a short amount of time 🙏
Good morning David! 🙋♂️
Great insight, thank you both!
Consistency, volume then these things
I've started to incorporate strength training and even a bit of running into my training and boy in my first week I felt muscles I never knew I had! Great content, thank you!
if you're not getting faster, then you need to ride more. Cycling is a very simple sport… There's no pseudoscientific youtube video garbage that will make you go faster if you don't put in the hours…
Do the cyclists he coaches all have a PhD in Physiology to be able to understand him?!?!
Train as many muscles as u can all over the body, should make you feel better and probably faster, i use this method 👊😉
Always try to plan your day's ride so that you have a tail wind on the climbs. Now, since that's so hard to do, and because max wind speeds also plateau, I suppose that's why 99% of us end up on a plateau.
Indeed. As one of ten fastest yet aged cyclists in my city, there are some magical moments, 3000-5000 kms is when the peak seasonal break in has occurred, it gets easy. Then the muscles and glycogen end up drained if riding daily- which I do. 2025 we had 1-w rain days he whole summer so all my lifetime PR breaks occurred October on rides after away with kids (so no riding days). Beat PRs by 0.4 then 0.6 km/hr and admitted;y the Colnago V4Rs helped. The theory is sound. Also more crunch bars helped. Did so on tubular tires which are reaching their limits as our roads continue to decay post winter. A licensed team skinny semi pros half my weight gained 800 m over 20 kms and thought maybe I was tired when we crossed paths, too tired to keep 41 kms hour solo. Then found out end of that ride I lost 20% pressure due to a slow rear leak so that’s what slowed me lol. Finally, losing winter fat and post op fat so 15 kg fat los and muscle gained for a net loss of 8 kg and still dropping. At 78-79 kg 35-40 km hour and segments at 42 km/hur, if I weighted 68 kg like The Pro, those 10kg 22 lbs less weight would make me even faster. But as I developed upper body swimming winter etc weight itself becomes a limit. But praise Colnago V4Rs and V5Rs magic…
Excellent vid. Coach Turner explains everything as simply and concisely as I have heard. Many thanks.
On my group rides i'm fast on the flats, slight inclines [and downhills] but going up steep long gradients I really suffer and get dropped…..any specific training for this ?
My overall endurance is good and my speed on the flats is good but long inclines kill me !
Thanks to the ✈️😅
I can't remember which pro rider said it, but he said easy rides with occasional sprint sessions, gets him 99% of the way to peak fitness. I'm similar, I NEVER deliberately train tempo/threshold/vo2 with specific intervals, mostly zone 2. If the Saturday or Sunday ride gets spicy, I'm at the pointy end, other than that, zone 2 baby! 🤌
To get faster on the bike, you need three things: E P and O.
The video describes different types of workouts and what they do but keeps it all very theoretical. Would’ve loved some more practical, specific examples.
A little bit too technical for my simple mind .
Great video and guest Dave. I understand what’s he’s talking about as I started with a coach a few months ago and have been doing these. Hard to get your head around it all to start, but it all works! Nice work mate 👌🏼
Great information from Andy. In the spirit of giving back, I would feedback that he needs to get more comfortable looking people in the eye. The constant down casting of eyes made this a cringingly awkward watch.
very good advice …. in theory … , lets put it into action, throw you on a trainer, measure some metrics, 5 minute power, ftp etc, then we'll see how this advice translates to real world gains. also we can't compare gains from pros as we all know or suspect the doping element to their training … just saying.😉
so basically:
1. max effort
2. max max effort
3. max² max² effort
I've forced myself to forego hard efforts for a few months and focus my intensity exclusively on weights. If it doesn't work I will be slightly miffed, but probably also a bit healthier.
This was focused on racing speed, which many of us don’t care about. What we do care about is increasing our average speed and I’m not sure this was an answer.