DNS casual birders Colin Huggett and wife Stephanie share some photos, tips and travel advice from their two week self-guided trip there in May of 2025.
DNS casual birder Colin Huggett is a retired lawyer, and his interests include birding, boating, travel and golf. In addition to Iceland, recent travels with Stephanie include a trip to Morocco, Spain and France last November, and they have just returned from a six week sailing trip on their boat to Haida Gwaii.
They also enjoy bicycle touring, and notable trips include Surrey to Mexico when Stephanie retired in 2017, and Amsterdam to Belgrade in 2020.
Colin has been a DNS member for about 10 years.
Okay. Well, I’m Colin Hugget. I’m a member of the club. Have been for oh, probably 10 years now. In May of this year, Stephanie and I did a made a trip to Iceland. Um, was self-guided on our own. We weren’t part of a tour or anything like that. uh we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves and we thought we’ll pass along uh some of the tips and experiences that we had. I know it’s a popular place and those of you that haven’t been yet um uh should go and hopefully you’ll get something useful um from this talk. Uh so yeah, this is a map of Iceland. Uh the main city is down here in the uh lower left corner right around where my mouse uh is. That blue circle, that’s the capital city, Reikovic. It is at about the same latitude as Dawson City in the Yukon. the Arctic Circle just touches the very north uh coast uh of the island. So, it’s quite far north. The uh populationwise, it’s uh very much concentrated in and around greater Reikavic. About a quarter of the population lives in Reikavic. And then if you include the um Keelvic GDIC peninsula here um are you getting an echo? No, it sounds good. No. Okay. About half the population live in this peninsula here and then the rest is spread out around the coast. the inland, the central part of the island is all um glaciers and um um basically uninhabited. 60% of the land mass is tundra um not um you know it’s not commercially usable for much. So the people are spread out around the edge. After Reikovic, the next biggest city is only 19,000 people. So um it’s very much uh concentrated down here in um the Reikovic area. Now, while I’ve got the map on here, I’ll just show you where we’re going to go in the tour here. the the blue line is the the road that circles the island and that’s the uh trip that we did. Um it’s pretty well the only way around. There’s just the one road. It’s two lanes. Um quite narrow but not a lot of traffic. Um, we’re going to make a stop down here at the very bottom is an island that that we’re going to see that is down on this corner. There’s some there’s an iceberg lagoon that’s about halfway along here. Uh there’s a ferry from Denmark that arrives weekly in this uh bay over here. Uh we crossed over the the highlands here, went on a whale watching uh tour up here in Husvik and carried on um back down to Reikavik. There’s sort of three main tourist areas. There’s greater Reikavik, um this area here. Then there’s a something they call the golden circle and that goes from Reikavic out this way and back. There’s a circle tour. Lots of daily bus tours. If you’re only in uh uh Iceland for a couple of days, then that’s what you would do is the Golden Circle tour um out of uh Reikovic. And then the other um tourist um route of course is going around the the circumference like we did. Okay. All right. There’s uh downtown Reikavic. The uh it has a nice big pond and park right in the middle of it here. And it was full of birds. Uh, and the harbor um here is also full of uh seabirds. And there are lots of boat tours if you wanted to go whale watching or puff watching. They uh leave this area here. Most of the hotels and restaurants around in this area. We stayed in a a little um uh in I’ll show you a picture of it in a sec. Right down this corner of the park here. We walked out the door, cross the street, and we were in this park and walk up to the main uh town area here. Um I know that a lot of people think that um Iceland is very expensive. Here’s the where we stayed is travel in. We had our own room, a private bathroom, shared kitchen. Um, I can’t remember what we paid, but I checked. If you want to go next May, it’s $138 Canadian a night, and we’re right downtown. It’s not expensive. Uh, that’s the view across from the pond. That’s the tallest building in Reikavic. a new church fire. Um, and you can see or maybe you can’t see, but I’ll tell you it was very windy. Uh, we first arrived there. This is that same pond. You can see there’s fresh snow on the mountains there. It was very windy. It was um with the wind chill it was minus nine and uh raining and snowing and seting. Um we were there the last two weeks of May which according to um the bird guide is the best time to go. That’s what that if you’re there to see birds then you want to go um in May. Um so here’s some of the birds that we saw in the pond there. This whooper swan is the only swan uh in Iceland. Uh these are common teal. See those every once in a while here. very much like a greenwing teal except you’ll see the white stripe runs horizontal instead of vertical. Uh common ider duct, lots of those around. Uh the very sensibly named blackheaded gull, very similar to our bone aart gull. It goes through the same molting stages and the um winter birds are mostly white with just a little black spot. Again, there’s one flying by. Uh this is the greater blackback gull seen on the east coast of uh Canada sometimes, but they’re quite common. Uh there’s another picture of one uh these this is a pair of greyle geese. Uh you can see it has a very similar to our white fronted goose. It has pink legs and the all yellow bill. So, it’s not confused with the pinkfooted goose, which also has pink feet, uh, but the doesn’t have the, uh, fully orange bill. Now, this picture here was taken by, uh, Brian Abbott, who coincidentally was there, I think around the same. I haven’t talked to him about it, but, um, I gather he was there sometime around the same time. He posted some pictures and they were much better than mine and he kindly uh let me use some of them in in his presentation and this is one of them. There’s another one. You can see how it got its name. Uh this is a European golden plver. Very similar to our American golden plver. Very common. every field um has lots of these in it. Um and in May they’re in their nice bright breeding plumage. And this these are Eurasian oyster catchers just like our black oyster catcher except they’re have the white on also very common. and a red breasted morgan. Not much of a photo, but um you you’ll recognize those. There’s a tufted duck. Um we get those here at Iona sometimes. This one’s heading upwind. There’s one heading downwind. There’s the female. Uh that’s a white wag. That’s another one of Brian’s photos. All the good ones are are from Brian. Um there’s very few pasarines there. the the um in fact there’s very few species um uh on photo the um there 376 species recorded there but of those only 133 are uh are commonly or regularly seen and only 77 are um regular breeders. Uh and of those there’s only nine that are pasarines. The rest are all um um seabirds and shore birds um and hawks etc. There’s not many passings because there’s no trees for them to build nests in and uh very few bugs. Um so not too many of them. Here’s brat geese that goes here. A raven. I include the raven because this is the only corvid in Iceland. There’s no crows, no jays, no magpies. The ravens supposedly got there with the uh early Vikings, they had cages with um sort of tame ravens in them that they would feed. And when they thought they were getting near land, they would let a bird go. He would fly up, look around. If it spotted land, it would head towards the land and the sailors would follow it. It couldn’t find any land, then it would come back to the cage for food. And these ravens are supposedly the descendants of those early. Uh this is one of the other passerines of redwing. It’s a European uh bird. They’re fairly common. They’re about the size of a robin and they kind of occupy the same niche that a robin would hear. Uh after a day in the town, we decided we were going to head out to the Grindic Peninsula, see the cliffs, uh and see if we could see the um shore birds and the uh nesting [Music] birds. But as you can see, the weather, it was very windy. I don’t know how the birds manage to um stay in their nest during when the weather’s like this, but I guess they do. We went instead to the the largest tourist attraction in Iceland, which is the Blue Lagoon, which is a big hot springs, an outdoor hot springs. When we were there, there were about a thousand people in it. Uh, and that was considered a slow day because the slack was slow time of the year. Apparently, they get four or 5,000 a day in July and August. This was the road to the lagoon, and you can see uh it was blocked by a lava eruption that happened about a month earlier in April. Blocked the road and filled the whole parking lot up. But I guess they’re used to that kind of thing. and they had already built a a a detour road and a and a new temporary parking lot. There’s the temporary road. That wall there is a burm that they built. It’s probably 50 ft high, I bet. Um to keep the lava flows out in behind it is the blue lagoon complex. And there’s a big geothermal um heating plant. And these BMS are built to try to channel the lava flows away from the um important um infrastructure, but they don’t always work. This is the town of Grindic. It’s about a mile and a half, two miles from the Blue Lagoon complex. This picture, I didn’t take it, was um from November of 2023 when there was an eruption and it carried on through 2024, eventually made its way to the um into the city and they had to evacuate the the whole town And now you can imagine if you your house is in that suburb, this is what you got to deal with now. 10 15 ft of lava. After our stay in Reikavik, we uh got u booked a couple of nights in this farmhouse. beautiful little spot. Um you can see there’s no trees around. Um and this place like just about all of Iceland, the heating and the hot water is geothermal produced. And this place had uh nice hot water radiators in every room. You turn them on and off. Kept the room nice and toasty. And the water instead of circulating through a boiler, there was just a hose at the back of the house that came out and ran down into a ditch and the hot water just ran into the ditch. It steam pouring out of the ditch basically preheating. Uh these are uh Iceland horses. Um you don’t like to be called ponies apparently. If you call them ponies, the locals get mad at you. They’re horses. Uh they were introduced along with uh sheep and reindeer. the only um um non-introduced mammal in Iceland is a Arctic fox. Um all the other only other mammals are basically domesticated cows, horses, and a reindeer. And there was a mink farming experiment back in the 30s and some of those escaped and apparently still the wild ones around. There’s some of the sheep. The sheep are raised for their wool, not their meat. And ice the wool industry is um very big in Iceland. Uh that’s the meadow pippet. That’s one of the other uh one of the nine pacerines. They’re were very common. Whenever we saw a small bird in the bush, we keep thinking, “Oh, there’s something new.” And but had to look at it. No, it always turned out to be this meadow pippet. Here’s another view of one. Uh that’s an arctic turn. Uh there are lots of those there. They nest on the ground um all over the uh island and they’re very common. There’s some with uh uh feeding at down by the beach um with the gaze catch. There’s one sitting on a nest. There’s a pippet again. Uh this is a common snipe. Pretty similar to Wilson snipe. I’m just going to Here’s one flying there. I don’t didn’t have the camera that could capture them flying, but I wanted to take this picture because of the noise they made. You can hear this. Can you hear that? Nope. Nope. Can’t hear it. Can you hear me? Yes. Why can’t you hear that? That’s curious. I don’t know. You can’t hear that? No, brother. Well, they they have a display that they do, a territorial display. They look a lot like a uh hummingbird where they go straight up and then straight down, circling around their area. And when they come down, their feathers make this winnowing noise. It sounds just like a kind of like a drumming. It’s very loud. And when you’re walking around in a field, you hear them all the time all over the place. Uh that’s a northern wheat here. I hadn’t seen one of those before. Um, I know we have them in Canada, but um, that’s another one of the pasarines. Uh, these are Wimberl may be familiar to us. There’s that Eurasian golden plver sitting on a nest. This is another one of Brian’s photos. This is their yellow legs. [Music] They’re quite common as well. He said wherever there’s any kind of a puddle or field around any kind of water, you find these red shanks. One uh heading around the island. It’s just basically the one road uh that everybody follows, although it wasn’t it wasn’t busy. Um and there was lots of scenery to stop and look at. This is one of the waterfalls. There’s the main road. You can see it’s not a big highway. Uh you can go behind this one. There’s a walk behind it. You can see it’s not that crowded. Not that many people there. Uh this is a uh falls. This is on that Golden Circle route. If you’re there for just couple of days and you do the Golden Circle route, it’ll include this as well as some geysers and um box springs. And this river follows the um you can see here the divide between the North and North American and European tectonic plates. The divide between them runs right through Iceland. That’s the source of all the geothermal activity. The two plates are slowly moving apart. And as they do, the lava um um blows up out of the gap that’s created. This river is flowing down uh what was um the gap between those plates. I say it’s the only um place in the world where you can walk from Europe to North America. Uh that’s some of the scenery. This is one of the lakes inside. You can see there’s some trees starting to um they’re re being reforested. Apparently, when the first uh Vikings arrived, about 40% of the island was uh forested, but the early settlers basically cut all the trees down for building materials, fire, and um they’re slowly now starting to replant some of the forests. Um, another mountain. You can see uh there’s lots of fresh snow there. Um, it’s still pretty cold. Uh, windy and not a lot of trees, just basically short shrub grass. It’s great for looking at birds. The birds can’t hide behind the leaves and have been sit on the other side of the tree like they do here whenever we’re trying to find them. Uh that’s a blacktailed godwit. Um these were very common too. Saw lots of those. A pair of them. Very similar to our marble. There’s that pippet again. Rednecked fallop redthroated lon goes here. This is the town at the south end of the uh island close to the southernmost tip. Uh we liked it because we could pronounce the name of it. Most the places uh had unpronouncable names but not just to us. Apparently Iceland Icelandic is a language unto itself. The rest of the Scandinavian countries can’t understand it either. And there’s no um Google Translate doesn’t have an Icelandic uh app. So only an Icelander can can understand what they’re talking about. That’s where we This is the hotel we stayed in. On the left was about the only hotel. Every other place we stayed was a um usually a farmhouse or a park something like that. You can see it’s still pretty cold. Everybody there’s got all their winter clothes on. If you like uh long walks on deserted beaches, then you’d be right at home here. It’s only black sand beaches. Um um very secluded. Uh that’s some killer whales you saw. We took took this picture from the land, not from above. They’re in quite close to shore. Uh these are some of the sea cliffs. And you can see the nesting uh birds here. Those are um blacklegged kitty wigs. Um very similar to our um say short build gull sort of medium size. You can see any kind of a um they don’t need very much real estate to to make their nest. and how they managed to stay there and keep everything in place during those storms with the waves crashing and the wind and I don’t know but then manage somehow some more of them. The tourist infrastructure is is pretty good for viewing them. They have um turnoffs off the the road um and park areas, walks um and uh it’s it’s pretty good. Think those are called the kitty wakes, too. This is a fulmer. They nest in the cliffs, too. They make a little more of a nest than the kitty wakes. These are the tube nose. Um, Elsa like our olets. Uh, this is the island that we went to on the south end. You take a little ferry. It’s about a hour fairy ride or halfhour ferry ride. And this is the town that the ferry goes to. And this is quite an interesting town here. The we’re standing, this picture is taken from the top of a volcano that erupted in 1973 and went down and covered half the town. The town used to go right across the whole picture frame here, but the the volcano erupted and the lava went down over the town and they were very worried it was going to block the entrance into the harbor here, which would have been the end of the town. It was basically a big fishing port. And so they brought in all kinds of big water pumps. They had um firefighting uh tugs, navy ships, uh um all kinds of pumps, water that they’re spraying on the the face of the lava flow trying to stop it from blocking the harbor. And eventually they it did work and we were able to stop it. The harbor is still open. There’s a trail now that walks across the lava field and as you go there’s little brass plaques that tell you what’s underneath you. So it’ll say uh 150 ft below you was Joe’s Barber Shop and the next plaque will be um you know such and such hotels here. Uh, but life carries on. You I don’t know. I’d be kind of worried knowing in 1973 this half of the town went. I don’t know how what the real estate values are like if you’re up against that uh flow there. Uh from there you can take boat tours out to the um um seabird uh nests. These are this just 10 minutes from that barber. These are Kitty Wakes. Um these look like pigeon gilly mocks, but they’re not. They’re black gilly mocks. Um very similar. These are called in Europe common gillops, but we know them as common mirrors. Some of them have this eye stripe in it. And if you can see that, the white stripe behind the eye. Some have it, some don’t. Um, there’s a pair of ider ducks flying. Here’s a typical nesting situation. Here you have a detached home up here. It’s probably a northern fulmar. There’s a duplex here with a pair of kiddo wakes. And then there’s some row housing down here with mirrors and razor bills. They all seem to get along with each other. And you can other thing you can see from the weather that after those first couple of days, the sun came out, the wind died down, and by the end of the first week, it was t-shirt weather. You just never know what the weather’s going to do. Uh this is Iceberg Lagoon, the largest glacier in Europe. Uh is in the souththeast corner of the um island and it’s touches the sea here at this lagoon. Icebergs regularly calf off it and then make their way through through the lagoon and out into the um Atlantic. Uh past that is this uh giant uh lava field. This is the um probably I don’t know 30 40 kilometers of uh lava field and it’s left over from the they’re called the lackey eruptions in 1783 and that was the largest um eruption in in world history. It um basically create create resulted in uh long cold winters in Europe and um Asia right around the world for a number of years. It killed off um about a third of the population in Iceland and over half of the uh animals um and contaminated the soil for a long time with from the sulfur and other volcanic ash. So now there’s these this lava field Um, and you can see not much grows on it. This is couple of hundred years old and all there is is like a a sort of a mossy lykan cover on it. Uh, this is traveling further along. You can see there’s no shortage of gravel building materials in Iceland. These are huge talis slopes. You can just see the road along the bottom running along here, the highway. That’s the um uh another glaze here. Comes down almost to the road. That peak up here, that’s the highest point in Iceland. There it is. There it’s about can’t remember now. I think it’s about 10 11,000 ft. It’s not that high, but there’s a common shell duck. [Music] That’s a Arctic skewer in Europe, but we know it here as a parasitic jagger. They’re I found them hard to get a good picture of. They’re they’re very fast flyers and they’re attacking all the gulls. Other as soon as any other bird has something that looks tasty, these guys are right on. You can see the the long pointed tail they have. That’s diagnostic. Uh this is one of the fishing villages along the way. there aren’t a lot of ports because of the um I guess the way the um lava flows out and where there is one um they been developed for fishing that’s a great skewa another sort of predator bird um you can see that this is more rain from the glacier where it’s retreated and you can see the snow behind. Uh this is one of the places we stayed in. That’s our rental car there. This is our apartment here. Self-container, kitchen, bathroom, the whole nine yard. Very nice. But the neighbors here, they’re kind of noisy. That’s them. Hear all this noise. What’s going on? Went out, had a look, and sure enough, the barn was full of sheep. That was the view out the front window. You can see the weather now is pretty darn nice. Go for a walk around the waterfront here. And that’s the main highway there. Not a not busy, not a big road. Uh that’s this is the town on the very east side of the island. This is where the ferry from Denmark comes. There’s a weekly ferry leaves Denmark, stops at the Pharaoh Islands and then here and then back to Pharaoh Island. you wanted, you could you’re going to Europe, you fly to Reikovic, then take the ferry to Pharaoh Islands, spend a couple of days there, and then carry on to Denmark and Europe. The road then cuts over the top of the hill through the snow and ice down to this is Husvik, another fishing village. Looks a lot like you’re in Alaska. Um, we did a whale watching tour. This was the boat we went on. There we are. There. These are great corrants. Um, pretty similar to our double crested bigger. And this is the sisterhip of the one we were on. Uh, these are all puffins here. That whale boat watching boat couldn’t get too close because it’s quite shallow. But these are all puffins. They nest on the in the grass. They dig a shell, a little burrow, and lay some eggs. There’s one floating in the water. There’s some whales that we did actually see. And there were quite a few out there and they didn’t seem to bother the way watching boats didn’t seem to bother them. Got quite close to them. This is in the town. You can see they have a sense of humor with their stops stop lightss there. I never did figure out what this traffic sign meant. Why they’re aligned through the 30 don’t go 30k or uh then this is one of the volcanoes. There’s approximately 130 volcanoes in Iceland. There’s lots of them. This was the only one we saw that actually looked like a volcano. You got the classic triangle shape. You can see it’s all pretty fresh. There’s no vegetation. Uh this is just bare black lava. There’s a large central lake here and that’s where um some of the best birding is um in that central area. Uh this is another place we stayed and this used to be a a bookstore. and they’ve converted it into apartment. There’s the um bedroom. Nice little kitchen, front room. Um that picture was taken at about 11:00 at night. In May, it’s the sun doesn’t set. It sort of gets kind of twilighty about 2 in the morning. This place I think was not more than say $110 $120 a night. One of the sandy beaches. There’s another black sand beach. More of the cliffs. Nasty birds. They’re rider ducks. All of these would be familiar to to you with Dunland here. Um ruddy turnstones and oyster catchers. Turnstone. We see them here in their winter bloomage. kind of dull, but you can see they’re quite bright when they’re in the breeding plumage. And you might think, well, it’s not very good camouflage, that white sand. But how many can you see in that picture? One there, one there, one there. It’s pretty good. pretty good camouflage when you want it. There’s one flying. They have that characteristic sort of Wshaped white wing. There’s a fulmer nesting. They make a bit more of a nest than the kitty wigs do. There’s one flying. You can see the tube nose on them sitting on a nest. There’s some puffins. There’s some more puffins. There’s another one of Brian’s photos. His camera had the reach to get a good view of them. There’s a good one. Uh, barnacle geese. These This is Brian’s photo as well. I didn’t see barnacle, but he did. It’s a bunch of turns on parking lot. There’s lots and lots of fishing. Oops. That’s a European shag. It’s kind of like our pelagic corn about the same size. There’s a paradigm there. Some ganuts. There’s a common gull here. This all white one. And then these are blackbacked and greater blackbacked. And there’s the greater. And there’s the lesser. The lesser has the yellow legs. And the wings are gray as a little black. There you can see the lesser wings are are uh gray, not uh the black. And there’s a glauus gull kind of like our gauas winged gull. [Music] No black on it. If you want to see gulls, you get to follow one of these commercial fishing boats. This guy was working just off the coast there. There must have been, I don’t know, thousands of gulls and seabirds following it. Um, there’s some more cliffs. Can see the mass site here. More cliffs. And these are um gilly mocks here. These are razor bill. Kitty wakes. That’s the razor bill. It’s almost identical to the kitty weight except for the bill. Here’s some razor bills. Mirrors nest site. Kitty wakes. They’re all jammed in there. I don’t know how they managed to hold on when the wind and the waves get up. Harlequ ducks. There are no um endemic species in Iceland. So all the birds you see in Iceland you can see somewhere else. But there’s three species that um of North American birds that will only appear in Europe in Iceland. That makes sense. So if you’re a European burer, if you want to see a Harlequin duck, Barrow’s golden eye, or a common loom, you have to go to Iceland to see them. They’re not um we we they’re not going to be a big attraction for us, of course, but um if you’re a European burer, those are the birds that you’re looking for. Um and a longtail duck as well that list. We see them here in their winter plumage. Here you can see breeding quite brightly colored. Here’s some scop with the har with the longtailed duck ringed clever. And that’s it. Another that’s a black kitty wig. So, that’s uh it for the photos. Um, anybody’s got any uh questions if I missed anything. Bruce, are you awake? Oh, yeah. I’m here. I got a question uh for you, Colin. How long were you guys there? And for answer that first, I guess, is the question. How long was your trip? Uh just over two weeks, which we found was um a good amount of time. We thought we’d seen most of what we wanted to see. Um you know, we were able to do it in that time. We weren’t too rushed. That That was my second question. Is that too much, not enough? Did you you didn’t feel too rushed over that period of time? No, it seemed about right the um in terms of the accommodation and that we did what we usually do on our trips is we booked the flight, a car rental and the first two nights accommodation and then we just wing it after that. And we had no problem at all finding accommodation. You we usually look the same day 3 4 in the afternoon. We start looking around. Usually use booking.com and uh we had no no trouble finding good accommodation and we didn’t find it that expensive. Yeah. You said that. Do you know how many different types of whales you saw on this trip? I think three. A back, ni, and was that due to the time of the year or do you know that there was I’m not sure. I think the um the humpback anyways are there pretty much all year. Excellent presentation. If you’re going to go um and I checked the the you need if you’re going to go you got to get the um Iceland bird guide. Can you see that? Yep. Can you see it? Yeah. Yep. Okay. It’s really good. It has because there’s so few species, it can devote, you know, a couple of pages to each one. And it’s all the bird information I’ve given you. That’s where it came from out of this book. Uh, and it says the best time to go is um from the middle of May to the first week of June. That’s when there’s the most migrants. and the most uh nesting birds there. And the weather’s not too bad or I guess you just take your chances with the weather. Um and it’s not that crowded. We um we never uh thought, oh boy, this place is get getting to be a bit of a zoo or something, you know. your uh your mystery on the um traffic sign is answered in the chat group by by Shanti. I don’t know if everyone can access it. that says traffic signs with a number 30 crossed out by horizontal lines indicate the end of a previous restriction, meaning the prior speed limit and other rule no longer applies and the general rules of the road are now in effect. Okay. Well, Colin, I really enjoyed your presentation and I love the uh all of the countryside to the photography of the of the areas. Very interesting. And I I really like to hear you say the way you travel because that’s the way I’ve done it, too. went through Europe and and uh two days where you know you’re going to be after you get off the plane and then you just wing it. It uh allows for a lot of flexibility and as long as you’re in a town or a city by about 3:00, you no problem just hunting around and finding a spot. Thank you. Yeah, lots of uh comments in the chat group from Ann Murray, Carol Renie, Mary Tate, Audrey had one as well. just thanking you and uh commenting on the positive pictures. So, call them. I’m not sure if you have a chance to read them or not. They’re all in there. Okay. Um no, I I can’t see the go down to the middle bar where it says chat and double click it. It’ll kind of bring it up on the right side of your screen. All right, Elizabeth, I’m assuming you don’t have a microphone, correct? All right, I don’t see any other questions for Colin. So again, thank you very much. That was uh very good. Um I’ve not been to Iceland, but I think you’ve uh planted some seeds. So thank you for doing that. Okay. And thanks to Jim Nich for uh persevering with my technical problems. That’s all right. and to um um Harry regularly gets frantic emails from me asking how I should fix some technical problem I’m having post on flicker right okay thank you all right so that is our uh our October meeting, our AGM.