It’s recording as well, just for information. So everyone is aware of Okay. so, On this note. Thank you all for joining today. I think this is our fortnite decision. We are your expecting a bit, few more colleagues, but I think they may be busy. So, in the agenda today we have a few things, one, I think, when you’ve been playing around with a few things with Open AI and I was doing some work, I’m doing some trial at work around using Agent, QA techniques. So maybe I can share, but I guess what you also Lorraine Vincent and Do you have anything that you may want to? >> Yegor P: Side. >> Vincent Sider: Well, I sorry, it wasn’t me. I think the key news really is the opening idea, then and the agent key, then the absence DK, so that that deserve quite some Some focus. So otherwise my focus these days is on two things. Social engineering in the age of AI. >> Bence Csernak: Side. >> Vincent Sider: event organized by Open AI about How to how to protect against AI scam and then the second subject is a generative engine optimization. So how to make sure that we are being seen. When we search stuff on charge, GPT and Google, and so on and so forth. So, I’ve I’ve been doing my homework, I have stats, I can share with you stuff. I’ve learned so far about this. So, yeah, if we have time, I can talk about this a little bit. Okay, okay. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay. Sounds very good. so, >> Bence Csernak: You are in the ego on the Whatsapp group. I just saw the request. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Sorry on the Whatsapp group. Oh, okay, you go, okay. >> Bence Csernak: Or. Yeah, so yeah I can go very quickly. It’s it will be very very simple. Just in happy SDK. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay, over to you. >> Bence Csernak: so, if we look at the examples, open AI had a developers day on a few days ago, right? A big brand name, like Booking.com Coursera Comma, Figma Expedia. And as you can imagine, maybe they want to be the next app store. So, all these well known brands like Doordash. Uber. So you can in order your >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Pens, Do you hear a typing sound in the background? Not sure where it is coming from. >> Bence Csernak: I haven’t. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Or on my side. >> Bence Csernak: No. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay, fine. Maybe >> Bence Csernak: So, I just Bit. So if you look at the the brands you can actually order food and taxi and you can book your trips. Right now, I think in the US maybe in the UK as well but not in the EU yet. and I was thinking, what we deliver developers can do right now and I’m partly in the healthcare domain. So I was playing around with a few more cups. This is a Appointment booking. If you’ve got already a clinic that you like, they already know your profile, you are connected via MCP. look at the free slots and you can book right away in chargeuptc so you don’t need to go to the clinic’s website. That’s all and obvious use case booking. then, the other one is, Preparation Preparing for the Visit. So I’m asking that. What should I bring to my doctor? And get GPS. Me A Personalized Checklist. Which I can just share with myself for, with a reality or email to myself. And the third one is. Waiting times. so, if you have a private clinic branch, you know, a chain of branches in in town, you can look at the different branches. How about the life? waiting times? And then you can say, okay, This is the one which has the least waiting time. 15 minutes. And I can reserve a spot for myself. And I can see everything on. Inside your GPT up on my mobile. And this is a secure connection, so open AI won’t see this kind of interactions. It’s just And they are showing the front end. Nothing else and everything is Is just between me and the clinic ymcp. And as a developer it’s very important that you are not tied to open AI as far as my, you know, I had a few hours or a few minutes to research on this topic. you can use other language model, it’s not exclusively, open AI API but you can use for these apps. So that’s from me. Now the you know the the App Store Bird is opening up. And you know, 800 million people are using Chad Gpt so it’s a big opportunity. >> Vincent Sider: How did you build the Updance? >> Bence Csernak: Is just a mock-up. Developers. site, there is a, quite a Along the documentation, how you can do it. You can choose between Python and It seems to me quite straightforward process. But it’s not much yet, I think that is better to wait. A few months and you know, be we can just prepare for it. Right now in the UK and in the EU because we can’t really publish it yet. and they want to monetization will be available as well, maybe early next year, so you can monetize your apps. >> Vincent Sider: Okay, and so what you’re showing on screen is different from Agent Kits, right? It’s, it’s the agent SDK, but there is also agent kids that correct >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, and there is a chat kit as well. So it’s a little bit confusing. What’s happening? >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: and and Ruben created A month ago. The MCP connector it’s it’s open source. You can find it on github. That’s a possibility as well. So there are many, many things and also the flow wise like, Visual. People are finding bugs, so it’s it’s not clear at stable. So >> Vincent Sider: ah, >> Bence Csernak: maybe a little bit of weight will help. >> Vincent Sider: You’re talking about that thing here. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> Vincent Sider: Okay, okay. >> Bence Csernak: Yes. Actually you know flow wise is quite mature if you look at all lung flow, And, and this is not hundred percent as advertised what I hear from testers. >> Vincent Sider: So, it’s still very early stage. >> Yegor P: Have you guys tested? Sorry, go ahead. I was just gonna say, has anybody tested that you open AI agent, builder and production yet? Is it you saying it’s not too stable? >> Vincent Sider: but, >> Bence Csernak: Some people tested it on and documented on LinkedIn, so they run into bugs. So, but maybe >> Yegor P: Mmm. >> Bence Csernak: it was only the first day, you know, just a few hours after the release and maybe there was a surge on the on the servers, but myself, I didn’t have much time to To read about it, you know, experiences. >> Yegor P: Okay. >> Bence Csernak: There is a noise in the background somewhere. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: yeah, I was getting the noise reservations but I was wondering where >> Bence Csernak: Everybody’s muted, so I don’t know. I don’t know how come. it’s Yeah. Right. Hi Marcus. >> Vincent Sider: Is there still noise? Is it still noise? I don’t hear noise. It’s a noise. >> Bence Csernak: Not anymore. >> Yegor P: Yeah, I don’t care. Not even to be honest with you guys, maybe >> Mondweep Chakravorty: So Ben’s like how did you get started? So you did the mock up, right? So like when you got the documentation, what’s was your journey to kind of get to the stage that you are showing us? How would you suggest we get started? >> Bence Csernak: So if you want to create just quick mock-ups for clients, you know, just teasers and and I would just I I approaching our way that I use cloth code which is the Competitor of open AI, but you can use codecs. I showed some screenshots from the Dev Day videos. And screenshots from the open AI, you know, official websites isn’t bad. They coursera doordash uber kind of Uis. and then started brainstorming with Clot code. But you know, if you have a Delivery wall doordash. Kind of E-commerce application running already in the US. then you can apply this technology to many many other industries. so, What is happen? What is possible on a mobile app or in a Web app? That’s possible inside in, in charge of PT as well. So sky is the limit. And people don’t have to leave the Chair GPT application. So you they just type your brand. And it pops up. That’s the that’s the promise. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: okay, so using Codex, I mean I have tried to use Codex and within code spaces like, if I spin up a code space and try to get Codex working, I found that it like it does send you back to the port. Forwarding doesn’t work. So since you’re back to localhost And I was struggling to get Codex activated within code spaces. So like we have to work locally on a visual studio. I was just wondering, like Did you use Good spaces or local local setup or you just was where within the Chance apt application. >> Bence Csernak: I always use locally. So I don’t have experience on because it go spaces around cold flow and and cloud codes without any problems. I haven’t tried Codex yet. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Nice. >> Bence Csernak: But some people at the You can run virtual Linux machines. And that’s a nice isolated environment. If you don’t want to run locally. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: I guess open to the Forum. Like anyone any anything else before we move forward? >> L D: So thanks for the mock-up Bence. I really like that. It seems very feasible. I think from my understanding of what we saw from Sam, it was you should be able to do this. Now, if you do your MCP to return a HTML I haven’t tried that I think he said something about HTML. In. In the talk. So that’s so track. GPT is basically going to be the most the distribution. And your MCP is going to be returning, whatever it is. You want to be rendered Like widgets. That was my understanding of how it’s supposed to work. >> Bence Csernak: Mmm. Cool. >> Yegor P: So I guess this is kind of like a natural evolution to the custom gpt’s, they offer now, right? Because some of those are paid services. And this will be like, the next step. In a sense. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. And and the question is, whether they’re going to they’re gonna fix The problem, they’ve created with GPT is meaning, you know, they will know no gabriels like anyone could create anything without any >> Yegor P: Mmm. >> Vincent Sider: vetting without any security you wouldn’t know what kind of output you will receive and what kind of input you could you know the stem would accept so it doesn’t real trust. You know, if you want to build an App store, you want to have vetting and reviews and you know yeah much you want to build trust. So I I don’t know yet how they’re gonna crack that because the GPS it was a s*** show really like >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> Yegor P: Yeah. Yeah. >> Vincent Sider: We didn’t, yeah. So, the success of that app store is, depending depending on that, it’s not just the fact that they can do App Store, it’s whether they can do, trust it App >> Yegor P: Mmm. >> Vincent Sider: store, right? So that’s the >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. and that’s the problem of Apple, even that the Apple App Store was very famous of you know, curated and secular content. But if >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: you look at now there are these copycats and fake and scamming apps already on on Apple’s App Store which is A A contradiction. But you can see the the logos and the app icons are very similar to leading brands. So they deliberately confuse people to download some of the Some of the apps. I don’t know why they are getting granted but they they are not filtered out. >> L D: Okay, I mean there’s another way to look at this, right? It’s Yes, you can have more robust app stores, but what does that mean? In terms of charges, Right, so now it’s free. So Okay. You log in by my app and the distributions chat GPT. once we start adding like, security and extra things that they’re doing, then you now looking at maybe paying the 30% or 10% or more. On top of. >> Bence Csernak: Right. >> L D: Whatever it is, this premium and is then is that what people be prepared to pay for? Because because ultimately, I mean my understanding because I still haven’t played with it, is that? all you be doing in chat tpt is you ask for things and you will use your apps like you normally do and you’ll see the rendering of your apps like you normally do. Because I think, when I watched it, they did some sort of maximization, we said takes you directly to the app. Right? So they said, Oh, this is figma, this is Canva. So you can go directly back to Campbell. So it’s literally just rendering your app within Moving chat GPT, right? So it’s not them doing it, but the only difference they were saying was that if you don’t call an app, so if you don’t call Canva, if you don’t call coursera, maybe if you use natural language, it can then suggest to you. Maybe you might want to try these apps. and then that’s when it’s important to Be ranked more highly in the store. I mean, that was my understanding of what I watched. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, yeah, very similar feeling. It’s a, it’s a react component being rendered live and, you know, the responsibilities, if you if you type Spotify I want to listen to this and this music. Then the Spotify component will be rendered in your church. PC but it’s not open. AI territory anymore is Spotify responsibility was being Shown to you, right? That’s what you meant. >> L D: Yes. So if you, if you when I did the canva the other day it literally was just a plugin. Right. It’s what the plugins were. So it’s running on your app. That’s all this is. >> Bence Csernak: Hmm. >> L D: But it’s just their reopening it again. So when I, when I go into my app, my um, so maybe I can share when I go to my normal chat GPT right now. it literally all my custom gpt’s, I can just load them up. In in line, you know how they showed canva, I can just load it up in line already so that facilities already there and I’m sure they said it was already launched. It’s just the official store where you go to see the stuff is not launched but the functionality is launched. >> Bence Csernak: Because I tried Spotify this morning and it was not available. Maybe Karma, yes. Okay. >> L D: Canvas. And >> Bence Csernak: it just >> L D: Or maybe you have to do something. If maybe have to do something for it to be available. >> Bence Csernak: I, >> L D: I have. I don’t think they said that. Did they say that? >> Bence Csernak: Or maybe I just I just thought of Senated it. >> L D: I know it’s >> Bence Csernak: No. >> L D: a very comment because normally it normally says US and Canada US and Canada like Sora. So another thing we’ll talk about it’s A US and Canada. So that’s a fair comment. And I’m gonna see Spotify. >> Bence Csernak: I’m trying to. Spin up cover now, but >> Mondweep Chakravorty: You want to share? Are we sharing any screen? >> L D: I was just trying to see if it would do something with Spotify, it’s not working. So I shared that. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, I can’t directly open. Come here. That’s what Jazzy Beats told me. Yeah. >> L D: What this way. Okay. Let me >> Bence Csernak: Me. >> L D: So I can open Canva. >> Bence Csernak: Hmm. >> Vincent Sider: Can you share your screen? Can you show us? >> L D: Yeah, hold on. So, but I think I might have installed the plugin at one point. You see my screen? >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> Vincent Sider: Yep. >> L D: Okay. >> Bence Csernak: This is the one I got from Spotify. They are just links. >> L D: Yes, so I know but when I did that, nothing happened. And I’m going to just show you what happens when I do the canva. so, >> Bence Csernak: Maybe. >> L D: Hold on. So I see. Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> L D: See. Yeah. so, I can’t remember what I did. I think I must have installed something from Canva then. >> Bence Csernak: Maybe the official canva MCP connector and >> L D: I have any mcbs. >> Bence Csernak: Interesting. >> L D: So the other things that come up are these are my my gpt’s and other gpts I have like installed >> Bence Csernak: Hmm. >> L D: so, so this is why I mean so when I did the canvas, so if he said like Field. okay, so this is quite >> Yegor P: Maybe you’ll be A/b tested on Ldn. You’re the lucky one and has the feature set early. >> L D: I wanted to show you, see this? Here, too. Cool. >> Bence Csernak: This is the connector. Plug. >> L D: Yes. So, this, this is probably not quite there yet. So this was the cook to call. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> L D: so, >> Mondweep Chakravorty: It’s basically very similar to the flow nexus concept. Where effectively the computers happening on probably an ephemeral compute layer somewhere in charge of Beauty World, right? And, and we getting the response. So what we saw your own access >> L D: Yeah. but so I I suspect what’s supposed to happen is we’re supposed to install the Mcps. Right. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: We we will need to do that. We will have to well, good point but sorry when you were showing was it working like when you were showing your screen? >> L D: No, it does work. It does work. Sorry. I stopped it but while I was trying to show you was how it connected. So that was like, that was the plug-in. So I suspect we have to do settings, let me check again, and >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Oh, well, if it is using the truck, if it is using, if it’s not using stdi, or if it’s using the other one, the was still right for SEC. Is that correct? Then we don’t need to install anything. Like, we are going over HTTP effectively for the MCP, call. to, as long as we are trusting, it was that just that in Southern discussions about if we use HTTP, base MCP goals, we must be sure like who who we are trusting. So I I feel what you think Vincent wins. you have an installed anything on your some >> Bence Csernak: um, >> Mondweep Chakravorty: kind of JSON file for these Mcps right? It’s working. What out of the box for you? >> Bence Csernak: I I’m seeing apps and connectors. Tab in Settings. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Could you show us? >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. So I think that this is the place where they want to list out these Convo and Spotify and other apps, but these are just connectors. At the moment. And then, you know, I can’t scroll further. So, I think that it’s still not available in the UK. it’s very interesting that they already call it absent connectors, but only, >> Yegor P: Actually, I want to. >> Bence Csernak: only to that. >> L D: Which ones have you got connected? >> Yegor P: I wonder what? >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, this is the this that’s all what I’ve got connectors. >> L D: yes, what >> Yegor P: I wonder what happens if you’re going to advancing, then, click Enable Developer mode if that gives you anything. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. No I doesn’t do anything have tried. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, I tried as well. >> Vincent Sider: You can you can just create one connector, but you can’t access anything else. You go back to back. You should see your Create button. Click on back. No, just leave it open. Yeah. Click on back and then check the Yeah. You see, you have the create on the top, right? Top right. >> Bence Csernak: Create. >> Vincent Sider: That’s it. Yeah. Nice. That is just not available for us yet. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately not And it looks pretty different, you know, if Let me so this is the This is the payment. So the components should be rendered live inside the orchard area. And if you look at camera, There was a nice demo somewhere. Yeah, yeah. So you basically see these card component. And react or whatever. That. >> L D: I think, when I think we’re in the right place because in that creates option, it says Where’s your MCP connector? Where’s your MCP server? And what’s the oath? So, if you look, >> Bence Csernak: so, I can say, >> L D: So if we just go to, you know, just to Github with all the Mcps. So if we look at the Mcps then we can just put one on there. >> Bence Csernak: How do you call that repo? To remember the name. >> L D: No, this like a github with loose of Mcps, right? If you’ve got what an MCP already installed, >> Bence Csernak: You just copy here. The SSC link. Uh-huh. >> L D: Um, yes. >> Bence Csernak: Right. And then you can open it up. Public. Trust and you can create, right. >> L D: I think this is opening it up. I think this is connecting to that service. So not you opening to connect for other people, is you connecting to an existing MCP. Almost like you do, like with Claude. >> Vincent Sider: Have probably yeah, you’re right. >> L D: But let’s try it. >> Bence Csernak: Okay. >> L D: Yeah. >> Vincent Sider: Hello, everyone. That’s it. It’s >> L D: Yes. >> Yegor P: Is. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: Shall we do the reddit one? Or. >> Vincent Sider: Could you contact seven doesn’t require any authentication, you know, something simple. >> Bence Csernak: Contact 7. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: Where do you see that? >> L D: one of the reasons for doing one of the example ones is because we know it’s been set up with the HTML rendering, right? so we should start with an example, one that they showed us, and then we’ll try >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> L D: a different one. >> Vincent Sider: Just pick anyone any mcb, a simple one. >> Bence Csernak: Okay. Movies. >> Vincent Sider: But then you have to set it up on your server, right? >> Bence Csernak: Uh-huh. Okay. >> Vincent Sider: Okay, let me see if I can give you one. >> Yegor P: I’ll try to get the >> L D: That’s okay on this summer with like the remote. so, you don’t have to say, >> Yegor P: Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: I can notion. >> Vincent Sider: Take one. We’ve know of center is very Open, there’s something that’s open. >> Bence Csernak: Of deep wiki. Okay. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah, the thing like that. >> Yegor P: There’s a contact 71 if you want. >> Vincent Sider: Nice. >> Bence Csernak: It’s a family name. But what can you do? The context? >> Vincent Sider: It gives you a latest documentation of every of everything, right? >> Yegor P: Although that’s just a GITHUB but it’s not their PP server euro. Everything. >> Vincent Sider: You, you had one just before you SSE. if you go back to the same page, you were They had a list of yes stuff with it. So century there is of >> Bence Csernak: Deep. >> Vincent Sider: GP we could try deep wiki >> Bence Csernak: deep is, >> Vincent Sider: Or. >> L D: He’s dream. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> L D: to your screen please because I don’t think I’m able to see properly. >> Vincent Sider: Coin, Google. Okay, let’s check the price of bitcoin. Right coin Diego. Let me it’s gonna make me sad again you know, like I didn’t buy them whenever >> Bence Csernak: Or you. >> Vincent Sider: Okay. >> Bence Csernak: Slotting. Here we go. >> Vincent Sider: Demo. Okay. >> Bence Csernak: Okay. And >> Vincent Sider: so, Use demo and tell me the price of bitcoin. Yeah. >> L D: So, at my They have to act demo to call it. >> Bence Csernak: I, >> Vincent Sider: Okay, it is. Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: I did just. it’s not the same as the as on Dev Day, you know, because they had The, the app always visible. In the response, you know? >> Yegor P: Hmm. >> Bence Csernak: This is completely, you know, this is the old way to do it. Yeah. Yeah. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah, that’s your way just NCP, basically. >> Bence Csernak: It’s a tool use. Nothing more. >> L D: yeah, by probably just a wrap us, so So you did at Demo, did you say and >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. Yeah, I do at and I can see that. >> L D: oh, I can’t see the bottom of your screen. >> Bence Csernak: On the bottom. Okay. And what? >> L D: Okay. >> Bence Csernak: So, yeah. So we’ve got >> L D: Yes. >> Bence Csernak: It’s here, nicely, but then In the response. You can’t see it anymore and it’s just a plain text response you. It’s not design. It’s not a UI as As in these examples. >> L D: It’s not, that’s what I’m trying to say to you. It’s not a UI because the MCP server, you need to select needs to be returning HTML. So we’ve not selected one that returns HTML. >> Bence Csernak: Hmm. >> L D: So that’s why we need to select one of these examples because they are returning HTML. So if you’ve got yes, >> Bence Csernak: Zero, for example. >> L D: Yes. >> Bence Csernak: Okay. >> L D: The explicitly did say that, I haven’t got a zillow account, so maybe try the camera one. >> Bence Csernak: So, there we go. Yeah, and This is nothing installed on mine. >> L D: So, so basically, we have to set it up but I mean the, the positive thing is is live on this session, you’ve managed to set up an MCP server, right? Did it work? >> Bence Csernak: It did, yeah. >> L D: Yes, well then that’s that’s good. So now is let’s set up an MCP server. That returns a HTML. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Let’s do that. Yeah. Let’s let’s >> L D: Yes, so you can create one even just to say Hello World. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Exactly. You can use Github. >> Bence Csernak: We I really I will use cloth code now. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Why are we moving to Cloud Code? >> Bence Csernak: To start the MCP. so, What do you know any other tips or simpler? >> L D: oh wait will you basically you’ll use the MCP server as the connector what we just did just now how you just set up demo. So if you go back to chat GPT and the advanced settings, So you go back to settings, again. >> Bence Csernak: Apps. >> L D: Oh, absent connectors. Yes. I’m gonna create and a new one again. Oh no. Maybe >> Bence Csernak: Ly. >> L D: at the top Create enhanced connector. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: You give it a name, choose. >> L D: Yes. Well, I >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. The camera. >> L D: Let’s try. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay. >> L D: People beanie to search for Canva and Mcp, maybe we can. You’ve gone past it up, there’s a link that says, set up camera. MCP a bit more a bit more. A bit. Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: Uh-huh. >> L D: This is, yes. That one. >> Bence Csernak: Should you PT, okay. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Just search for. What does it say? It’s too small. Could you zoom your screen? Let’s put. >> Bence Csernak: The problem is that you need to have a account. On camera. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: You sign up for a free account. Maybe. >> Bence Csernak: I should have. Let’s see. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay. >> Bence Csernak: and then, Settings. >> L D: The first thing is, do you have a paid chat GPT account? >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, this is a >> L D: Okay, that’s only works on paid accounts. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. And maybe you need a paid canva. Account, that’s the problem, you know? >> L D: But I don’t think I’m just gonna put the link for everyone. Hold >> Bence Csernak: No. >> L D: We can all do a code along verses trying to do it. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: All right, let’s time-box the form to five minutes. Let’s see. >> Bence Csernak: Side. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Let’s get it to work. I’m also great. I’m also. >> L D: Yeah. All right, it’s all try. Anyone who gets it working and we can all try and explain it. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: This is via the connectors. >> Yegor P: Which is posted. I think a guide on the website. But I’m not sure. >> L D: They’re calling it, that’s the link, they’re giving us. So we just have to go with the link they’re giving. >> Bence Csernak: Hmm. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Does this work with plus account? So does it need beyond plus accounts on chatgy? >> Bence Csernak: Should work. >> L D: Associate. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: so, >> L D: let, us try. Let’s just go for the time box. Let’s try the five minutes. It may or may not work, but, you know, live and learn. >> Bence Csernak: This is an outdated. Documentation. There are no tools anymore. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Side. >> Bence Csernak: Hmm. That sources of fun. Come over. It doesn’t work. Any progress, guys. Cool. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: have managed it. So let me open so this is what I did. I’m gonna share my screen and elite has worked. All right there’s I got excited too soon. And hopefully it’s my loading up. You see that? so, >> Yegor P: Mmm. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: what I realized I tried this before and I forgotten this is where was the settings button? I have to go from here, I guess, right, settings. So, absent connector. So, I had managed to connect flow nexus initially. But for Canva, I basically used this remote setup, this remote MC server here. So, if I put this on the chat, this is the official SSC. So we’re running STDs. I also still very CTP So using that streamable MCP, whatever that name is. Oh you’re not seeing the step. Sorry, I’m sharing the wrong tab. So this tab is what I mean. So pulse mcb.com servers, canva, that’s the URL, streamable HTTP, Then I connected that so I’m connected now. So let’s see. Now what canva? Okay. canva demo, what do we ask it to do? Help me. Create. >> Yegor P: Make a slide. >> Vincent Sider: As key. Or ask it to respect you what you can do, you know, stop stop by. Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: What you do? >> Vincent Sider: what can you? >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay, so it’s working. >> Vincent Sider: No, this is strategy. PT replying not cond. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: It’s just really. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay, but I did not scan well. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay, are you connected to the Canva demo MCP server. Okay, it’s looking for something. >> Vincent Sider: Nice. >> Yegor P: Maybe we can. >> Bence Csernak: Confident. >> L D: yeah, what we want to see, really, if you make a poster, can you go into your canva account? And then we know it’s connected. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: it make a poster about London dot AGENTS.COM. And, and store it in my canva. Account. Right. >> L D: Sure. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: What’s this? What’s this works? I want to show Maybe. >> Bence Csernak: What was? >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Other Linked. This one Share tab instead of sorry. On this step, this step. this one. Pulse mcpe.com servers canva. So this is the official MCP. >> Vincent Sider: Side. >> Bence Csernak: Uh-huh. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: I think this is the point. I was saying, is that, if you’re using streamable HTTP, we have to be very, very sure that we trust that endpoint because I think one of the big things about >> Mondweep Chakravorty’s Presentation: Side. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: using Streamable HTTPM series services data leakage say. Right. Let’s see where we are. Share this tab. Yeah, it has created. I have >> Yegor P: I, >> Mondweep Chakravorty: created several once. Apparently please choose which one you would like, okay? Which one do we like? Maybe this one, the middle one. Okay. >> Bence Csernak: Can you click on it and select or you have to type? >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Oh yeah, I can actually click on this. I didn’t notice that, but let’s see his this clever enough. okay, it realized that >> Bence Csernak: It’s got a. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Confirm. >> Bence Csernak: Id. >> L D: It quite seamless seamless. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: what, what I wanted to try here is What if we try the same experience in Clod? >> L D: Oh we wait, stop opening canva let’s see that. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Okay. >> Yegor P: know, I wonder if they got a monetize this by then, like, for example, if you want to order a hundred posters for Chad GP, right? And you say, send them >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Network. >> Yegor P: to print and charge gpq will take a camera, this kind of thing, you know, >> Mondweep Chakravorty: The good thing is spelling is correct. >> Bence Csernak: What? >> Yegor P: Nice. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Spelling is correct, which is actually good. The problem always has been spelling sandal correct so this is not the direction. >> Bence Csernak: Look at the river. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Yeah. >> Yegor P: How? >> Mondweep Chakravorty: AI driven innovation. And this is our official poster now >> Yegor P: I’ll do this. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: That’s that. Actually, let’s compare this with clone what it does. I know we’ve gone. I think we never, we’re not really stuck to our timeline but We have 10 minutes. I guess. Let’s go around the table. If anyone else wanted to showcase something else. This is done. So >> Vincent Sider: well that was interesting you know I wouldn’t mind continuing but yeah I can talk about few things. Open AI, The, You know, you know, the Open AI forum, the organized events, every It depends, it’s not regular but when they do, they tend to do a lot right Yesterday was the Session with the, I forgot the role of Ben Nemo. But I as if it’s like AI security, and, and another guy from I forget, which network in the US, anyway, they discuss about their their findings in term of how bad actors use open AI and how to protect and the first, >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Side. >> Vincent Sider: learning was that they haven’t seen yet new forms of attack using AI. They have seen a number of groups across, you know, Surface Asia Russia. North Korea. And so on using AI, just to accelerate, what they do already meaning, you know, factorise fishing emails, mass outreach, these kind of stuff. So, write me a fishing email and the connect to Vincent Server and, you know, distribute views that are so. Existing attacks accelerated basically and and much more scale in the attack. But not new things that they’ve seen doesn’t exist, right? So basically what took them days, take them. Now minutes to do with some other attacks, right? And the second learning was that, they tend to mix mothers so they tend to use open AI to create the content, let’s say or write the instruction to build the malware and then they’re going to go to Deep-seek or an AMR to build the stuff, you know? So they jump that platforms for for specific tasks. The third learning was that. it’s a ratio of one, two, three like the AI tools are being used streets and more. To protect against scam than to actually create scam, right? So what individual will create scam but free individuals will try and detect using 30pt if it is a scam or fishing email or whatever. So that’s that’s good. You have much more defense and offense. In fact, And then they gave tips like how to detect whether this is a fishing attack or whatever is a That’s the first there are some red flags like you know, the M dash, you know, the we’re not everybody hate that, you know, when you write and you have the M dash and it’s long and so everybody know this is strategy, right? So this is a signal that they don’t use anymore, the attackers but on the other end if you remove the end dash you have to replace it with something else and usually, they use the wrong punctuation. Therefore, they stop one signal, but they create a new one, right? That you can, you can find out detect whether this is an attack fishing attack or scam. So that’s the the last learning and then they get the tip was he receives if you receive something on whatsapp or by email or text that you don’t, you know you’re not certain, right? You have a doubt. Three step process, right? Is there a ping zing and a sting? So king is this unexpected method unexpected message and so yes. So for example yesterday I met with a With someone here in Jersey that she showed me, whatsapp of a message from the CEO with the picture of the CEO. And the message was, Hey, how are you? Well, you know, if you are the CEO of a larger trust whatever you’re not going to spend time. Sending Whatsapp message to your staff saying How are you right? that’s not gonna happen. So this is the pin unexpected message should not happen, right? Then the zing is to create the urgency or to trigger an emotion. For example, Open AI, showed the tiktok drug scam. Hey you can get 300 the working on the free hours per day by doing tiktok stuff here, to find out more, right? So create an emotion walk quick win, quick money, right? Easy money, you have the emotion, you >> Bence Csernak: Too easy. Yeah. >> Vincent Sider: you may, you may act some people may act not, I would not act, but some people may. And so that’s the thing, you know? And then the thing is the, the next thoughts, like they’re gonna ask for something, you know, give me your access you these give me your money or share. Can you please open the email or whatever? So, when you are in doubts, Think about these three step. Do I have ping and sting usually you don’t want to sing, right? You want to stop at this thing is what they they kind of explain. It was about 40 minutes of conversation and it kind of give me your insurance that they were really on top of what what was going on in, in their world for involved security. monitor of is carefully is a they actually building a data set of scam, you know, of that’s going to be super valuable going forward. So yeah, I I really encourage you if you haven’t yet, joined the Open. AI forum to join. It’s free and and go to this events. The previous cycle was about jobs, you know, like impact of AI on drugs very interesting. So yeah, that’s what I had to share today. >> Bence Csernak: but, >> Mondweep Chakravorty: So, just building surveyance and >> Bence Csernak: Not just a quick question about timing, is it West Coast? >> Vincent Sider: The timing of work. Sorry. >> Bence Csernak: Of these open or AI forum meeting. ah, >> Vincent Sider: Ah, yeah. Yeah. So yesterday was 11 pm. UK time. That’s okay. And even pl. it’s still. Okay, right? So I, yeah, and it’s always been the same. thing always around 10 or 11 pm. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Yeah, I just wanted to build on what but I think Vincent you said because Mark as you know, Mark is member of along. We didn’t ask their members are I think? >> Vincent Sider: Yes. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: So what’s been doing some interesting stuff? >> Vincent Sider: Yes. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: around generic security projects. So what looking at this? This link here is public obviously and at the same time I think this is also public which is pretty interesting. Is this one Which I will share now. Which is this, this is kind of a capture the flag demo. So the intent here, is that you have an LLM based invoice processing app, you can enter the demo and your objective is to basically prompt inject or do gold manipulation activities. For AI base. And there is a good pace behind this, which is This one, I’ll put it on the chat but I was looking at it and And there is an event next week that we’re trying to use this as a basis of a demo. What is possible? But it’s very interesting to read through within Source. This particular. What I did effectively instead of reading it, I put it through a notebook alert and that came out as this one, right? so here, for example, what it says is that all that could be specifically I was looking and I think I find this very interesting to understand complex code basis, using notebook on them. Basically, if you need to notebook, alam, and this one was like, you know, for example, Finn board goal driven AI in Voice agent. So effectively, what are the class structure and also, what is a logic for defeating it like How do you go about it? Say so yeah, just wanted to mention showcase this and this useful to say like discuss I effectively could go underneath the individual. Like, I got some strategies to beat it and it actually worked as well. So, just by, I think, as us saying Vincent like someone who says shared GPT to create a malware, others are using it to. Yeah. Sure. I’ll do that Lauren to kind of figure out around it. So so the I think, yeah, the democratization like, I mean, I understand Python to an extent but not like to then it degree but the ability to understand the code and perhaps, this also goes, >> Mondweep Chakravorty’s Presentation: Side. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: into looking at screening code, which is what actually wanted to showcase earlier on. But I think next time I will do is like, how do we use prompting to review code properly along frameworks like cloud. Adoption frameworks, or well architected frameworks, or like, who was top 10 vulnerabilities. Like rather than going leveraging stuff like sonar cube and others, like just my pure prompting with the right prompt. If you throw the code base at it, we, we are able to get a lot of information out of it. Yeah, so this is, this is what we are speaking next week. I think this is just a synopsis this is talking about the top 10 issues from overwatch around. Llms will share this next week. I think that in a key thing that is coming up, Is this open source collaboration? And the whole decentralized governance nature for the future. This is probably very quickly showcasing. >> Vincent Sider: So where do you where you talk about? This is that an event genetics event? What is it? >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Now they will see. So obviously, Mark is leading it, but we have the sea. So London summit on Wednesdays day. And when it’s third, Tuesday, and Wednesday, week and in near Weber Bridge, so a group called TLC. His organizing it. So we have a slot on behalf of Agentex foundation and we basically want to we would just going on to talk to about like, okay, agent gigs is coming but security wise. This is what it is. So just giving a perspective of that >> Vincent Sider: Nice. Excellent. Okay. Is there any live stream of that? Or is it just face to face? >> Mondweep Chakravorty: I It’s a face-to-face event actually. I don’t know if they’re planning to Livestream, I’ll have to ask them so but I will. >> Vincent Sider: Mmm. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: send you if you’re interested, I’ll send you the link to the event. >> Vincent Sider: Yeah, please okay. Okay. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Yeah. we got two more minutes, let me put these on the chat for those interested, but anything else from anyone today? >> Bence Csernak: I’m wondering if you’ve seen the Deepmind Code Review or Code Security tool that they released and heard anything any detail about it. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: I, >> Bence Csernak: I haven’t I don’t know much about it, it’s just people. Excited on Twitter. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Could you show us? >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, I forgot the name. It’s called Mendel. I’ve got, I’ve got the link in the chat. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Code. Mender all this one. Let’s look at it. In the last. We’ve got >> Bence Csernak: The AI agent security. It looks very >> Vincent Sider: Nice. Yeah. >> Bence Csernak: very interesting and professional also because I was passing next to the office of Deepmind It’s very impressive at King’s Cross. >> Vincent Sider: Exc. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Oh, really, I didn’t realize they had an office. >> Bence Csernak: It’s a huge. It’s very empty. Obviously for remote working, but the whole building is Very impressive. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Yeah. Okay. I mean, are there any QA professionals here? I’m just wondering what these people’s views about traditional ways of Software vulnerable team management. Like, you know, so not Cube and others. what do people think about the future? >> Yegor P: I’m not a professional and that field, but I think we’ll have like a team of Red Team of agents in the future, you know? >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Hmm. Okay. >> Vincent Sider: It’s already. It’s already the present. It’s not the future. >> Yegor P: That’s true. >> Vincent Sider: You know, yeah. I mean, they are a few Gurus that you can get acquainted with online on YouTube for the name of the one of the key guys, a company called Acronym. Last time, I I watched him too. He sure he showed a an empty server to connect to Metasploits, which is a pen test framework, you know. So basically you don’t need to learn 15 years of cyber security to to a pen test. You just connects to your Metaspoid NCP server and you just attack, you know, and it’s gonna try everything, right? And then you’re know, where you’re gonna ask her to expand what’s going on. And to do ex-wise that so nice, it’s It’s going to be a very interesting time, going forward for security. >> L D: Here you a link, please. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: So sorry, I missed that. >> L D: The link, he just mentioned that will be used to be nice to catch up with. >> Vincent Sider: for the >> L D: or just a >> Vincent Sider: I’m what I’m gonna put the YouTube, I’m gonna try and locate the YouTube video and put the YouTube video so you can suck an hour long but it’s very interesting. >> L D: That’s good. >> Vincent Sider: So it’s but yeah, let me just find it. Put it in the chat. >> L D: Yeah, I just wanted to say doesn’t like we’re wrapping up now. I did like this. all learning together, sort of concept. I think it works quite well. If we have like new things, because this is such a fast moving field, so if we can somehow You know, every other session maybe. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> L D: Learned things together and like, no shared. Like two brains are better than one kind of thing. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, exactly. Let’s do that. Maybe build. An app with them SDK that was released. >> Mondweep Chakravorty’s Presentation: Side. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: I was also wondering, like, I someone mentioned this before, we never executed is a stack. You know, all the discord thing, we can have rooms, like, we still meet every two weeks but like if we want to, if someone wants to reach out in the group and say, Hey, you guys free for a couple, >> Yegor P: I, >> Mondweep Chakravorty: so when let’s do something together, Just wondering is it possible to create? I mean Vincent’s, maybe or anyone here Else knows to create a room like where we just patch in. And you know, if anyone is available, we can build something together. And so and so forth. That might be interesting to do for the London chapter. >> Yegor P: If we had the server, we could make her, I think it’s a you have to pay for nitro for that but you can have a room essentially that goes around the clock like a zoo making room and anyone can connect who’s a member of the server and you can just check, Oh, there’s a chat and then there’s like a voice through or a video room that people can just connect to whenever they >> Mondweep Chakravorty: We actually have a room for the London chapter and we never used item. We’re >> Yegor P: Hmm. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: using Google meet, we have actually a paid a room for for zoom. >> Bence Csernak: On zumo discord. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Discord as well, right? But >> Bence Csernak: Because Nitro, you mentioned. Nitro is a discord thing. Or. >> Yegor P: Yeah, you have to pay for the 24-hour rooms. >> Bence Csernak: Uh-huh. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Oh, okay, so we have this. >> Yegor P: But not a lot. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: So if I am still sharing my screen always, we have got this. Castle. Continue to discover my screen with you in a minute. So, do you see my screen? Yes, you do. So obviously, we have the room here. We actually have a London. Place as well. We don’t really use discord much, but that’s where is the London chapter? >> Bence Csernak: Yeah, it keeps disappearing. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: There it is, right? >> Bence Csernak: On my side. >> Yegor P: Okay. >> Vincent Sider: Side. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: And we need a live room here. Does anyone know this card better than me? And I’m a novice in this court, watch of it. >> Yegor P: It’s you see in the Voice channels. There’s a video that I think there’s a video channel on the voice chat so anyone can join those but obviously it will be visible to everyone, not just the London chapter. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: He probably doesn’t matter to be honest. Even this one, right? >> Yegor P: Yeah, this one. Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: so you anyone can start this, I’m presuming >> Yegor P: Correct. Yeah, anyone can start this year? >> Mondweep Chakravorty: And I’m just wondering whether we are. I mean, I might ask them to create us a room here, perhaps. Oh, did I just join? Oh, I didn’t intend to join. Okay. >> Bence Csernak: Yeah. >> Yegor P: Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: So and this is a this is a video channel, I guess? Right. Okay. We can. We can leverage this probably >> Yegor P: Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Is everyone on discord as well, on the foundation discussion. Do you? >> L D: I don’t think, I mean, >> Mondweep Chakravorty: right, I’m gonna give I’m gonna put the link on the chat here and discordant Discord.agentext dot, or so control, C Control v. If you do you lot all get an invite and you can just dial in this one. Share the steps. If you go here. When you click here generally this pop-up comes except the invite and you’re in. So be on, what’s up? We have what we say this one. Okay, so we then can, let’s try and make use of it when people want to do something, we can build something that Unlisters, anything else? That is all for today. Thank you. >> L D: All right. Thank you. Go. Oh God. >> Yegor P: Thanks so much guys. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Gone. >> Vincent Sider: No, I want to see. week. We took him for hours, so no let’s let’s keep for next time. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Thank you, Comment. >> L D: You know, just >> Yegor P: Oh, come on now. You can’t do that. >> Vincent Sider: Right. Nothing in particular. I, I always enjoy this chat and, as I said, in production, there is a another big big topic, which is should be on the radar, which is a generative engine optimization. You know, how to make sure you are visible on sharept on perplexity, on code that I >> L D: Look. >> Vincent Sider: That’s my hobby right now that I spend hours weeks on end on this topic and yeah, I I did get some good learning so far. So next time we share that about that. Yeah, we talked about that exam. >> L D: Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: We have confidence here. We are not going anywhere. If you want to talk >> Vincent Sider: No, no, honestly, honestly this week, next week, I don’t want to, I want to do >> Mondweep Chakravorty: All right. >> Vincent Sider: it justice. It’s a very important sub. >> Bence Csernak: It’s a hot topic Vincent. Yeah, that’s >> Vincent Sider: Yeah. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: All right, ticket guys. >> Vincent Sider: I got. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: Hey. >> Bence Csernak: but, >> Yegor P: Just guys, thank you. Bye. >> Mondweep Chakravorty: See you Lauren. Bye. >> L D: Thank you. Bye.
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