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I’m glad that we finally had this sit down
about mental health. I think it’s it’s needed, man. No one talks about it enough. When
depression really hit me um like it hit me for about 2 years. I feel like it’s hard to
have that initial conversation. These people have lived with that with neurodeiversity for 20,
30, 40 years. You may have had a thought like, I wonder if life would probably be better if
I if I hear, you know what I mean? People are not willing to come forward and say, “Listen, I’m
suffering with mental health. Weed definitely has a massive impact on people’s mental health.” But
you see what the problem is is when people smoke weed, they want to take accountability for it.
People have said for many years it’s, you know, it’s a coward’s way out and this that and the
other. I don’t believe that. I do, you know. So guys, welcome back to the YouTube
channel and we have on the today’s show, we’re doing it a little bit different cuz we’ve
already had this person on. So we actually had a conversation between us and we decided we
wanted to do something on mental health. Um, so I’m introducing you all back to Mr. Sanka.
Nice to see you again. How are you? Never a chore. Never a chore. Never a chore. You he rings me all
the time. He does me nothing. I wish I was. You’re over here. You I wish I never met him. Rings
me out. Bloody time. 8:00 in the morning. No, I can’t go to the gym and he’s ringing me. You
know what? I’ve noticed though. Yeah. Funny you’re saying that though because no like today you this
is me like mourning sir I thought he’s taking the Mickey now don’t don’t don’t take it wrong way
I don’t want no trouble mate but no I think you rubbing off on me with that because it’s it’s
nice to greet people and be yeah like you know what it is it’s um it’s nice to be nice and again
I don’t know if I said it last time it’s one of them things where I’m doing this thing now where
is if I think of you then I’ll ring you out yeah I need to start doing what I mean so then it kind of
I’m not saying it’s the best thing. I’m not saying you have time to do it, but just something that
I I’ve No, I’m going to make a I’m going to make conscious effort to do that because I don’t make I
feel personally I don’t make enough time for real people and I’ve got good people um in and amongst
my circles because you got to think the worst bit about it for me anyway is the amount of times that
you go, “Oh, I wonder what my man’s up to.” Well, then you don’t ring them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Exactly. How would you know what they’re up to if you ring them? Do you know what you said?
I think you might have said this off camera last time and my brethren come to mind and when you
said that again I’ve just dawned on me that even since the night ranging so when I go home I’m
going to ring him. Yeah. First time I’m ringing you and and do you know what it is as well? It’s
again because we’re talking about mental health sometimes it can just take that one phone call. It
takes that one phone call where someone goes I was thinking about you say you all right? And it might
just be the amount of people I’ve spoken to where not that they’ve cracked or they’ve broke down
but it’s like an open like a gateway for him to go well actually no I’m not. Yeah. And the thing
is that call is a brilliant thing as well because think I think of it like this as a man I feel like
it’s hard to have that initial conversation like no one no man wants to go up to the bridge and be
like boy I’m going through it man. If I’m honest, some of my my white friends are more prone to
wearing the heart on the sleeve in that sense. I notice it more with my black friends that the war
and I’ve been in a point where I was depressed. Like if I if I go smoke weed hard, I go I feel
down. I go through spells where I’m down. I don’t really want to talk to people. I just I go through
a down spell. Cuz funny enough, you you said it to me and I was in weed. Yeah. You said you said
it to me the other day. I think he’s you just messaging like listen car really sorry I’ve not
I’ve not been in contact I’ve just been a little bit down but again when you when you look at them
things and that’s because at them times I’ve been thinking about it and I’ve rung you answered but
have you been in my head I’ve rang and you know what it is again so I’m a person I I’ll openly
admit about about depression um so for me like when when depression really hit me um like it hit
me for about 2 years yeah where bro I didn’t move off a sofa [ __ ] yeah for two years I didn’t move
off a sofa for two years you do the things that you’re meant to do you do the necessities you do
the necessities but like where I’m talking where like getting a wash is not even existent I mean
some man I didn’t even get wash I’m not saying full two years I didn’t get a wash yeah but you
just lose yourself don’t you yeah because it’s the last thing on your mind and not that you go
yeah I’ll go do I I’ll do that I’ll do that and you just never get round to doing it because
something. And again, for me, I’m always I’m always within my thoughts. Yeah. So, because I’m
always within my thoughts, it’s it’s it’s hard for me to get myself out of things. And whether that’s
what I was like in a past and that’s probably why I was how I was in a past life because once I
have something in my head, can’t get it out. I can’t get it out. It’s the same way where like,
you know, not glorify anything, but if if someone was saying come and meet me, they could be with
20 people. Like if once I’ve got it in my head, I’m going to come and meet you. I know what’s
going to happen to me, but you can’t but I can’t I can’t see logic within my brain sometime. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. In certain circumstances. Yeah. And you know what it is as well. One thing I’ll say is
because I was brought up I’m an only child. Yeah. I mean mom has kids now later like 21 years later
she started having kids. She had another three kids. My sister and my two brothers. On my dad’s
side. My dad had a few kids. It was all my age but not in my household. Okay. So, I was an only
child and my mom was constantly working. So, when my mom was constantly working for a little bit of
a per we had like my nana, my grand my granddad, but then that once we moved then it was just me
and my mom. Okay. So, when like when you’re trying to explain to people, I don’t think people get the
how you get it. So, for me, all my life, I never had I didn’t have a a big brother cuz I am the
oldest of all my siblings. Okay. My mom was always at work. So for me, I never had somebody where I
could have a conversation with them when something was going on for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
so I always did in my own mind. So I did all the calculations and I worked everything out in my own
mind. What I will say is is now that I’m older, I know for me that was detrimental because that
stopped me from well then you get in stage where you go okay I’ll just do it anyway because you
can’t come up with the solution because you have nobody to speak to and again from my generation
you couldn’t go to speak to somebody because then you’d be looked as if you’re soft. Yes. Yes. Yes.
And even even I find the same. It’s funny you say that as well because I’ve got a brother. We’ve
got the same mom but my dad only had me. So I’m an only kid. And when you’re saying about not
having no one to reason to. I never really cuz when it got to a certain age like I mentioned on
the other pod my mom having a breakdown. There was an incident that happened and then my brother got
shipped out to my grandparents. So he lived with my grandparents and I lived with I lived with my
mom and dad. Obviously what I’ve explained about my dad being a drink and mom having a breakdown.
when I’m going through all that, I never had no one to talk to. And I’m not going to go on road
and say it to my friends or go to school and say it to people at school. So, I feel like that’s
probably why I was a bit aggressive as a kid and I had a bit of a hot head because I didn’t have a
an outlet. Yeah. Yeah. Because you know what it is is because you don’t have that person who’s going
to come up to you and go, “Oh, listen. Whoa.” No, no, no, no, no. Or somebody you can go to like,
you know, I my dad in my life, do you know what I mean? And he wasn’t there. Yeah, that’s the
bottom line. Like we’re being honest, we want sometimes in life there has to be a time or
everybody has that breaking point, don’t I? I think the issue that we have, especially people of
color, there’s a stigma around a breaking point. Yeah. Yeah. And I and I and I and I and I truly
believe this now. That’s why you are witnessing more and more um people of color suffering with
mental health because because they’ve suppressed it for so long that it’s built up built up and
and um it’s funny I had somebody else on on on the podcast on on I think Monday or Tuesday comes
out on Sunday by the way Tuesday because I spoke to him Monday and I was trying to explain it to
him and do you know what it is is you you build a mechanism within know within your mind where
you go, “This happened to me. This happened to me. This happened to me. However, I can’t afford
to think and dwell on that. So, I have to get rid of it.” And what you do is your brain finds a way
of how you dismiss that and you you you park it up. You put it to the back of your bra. And every
time, every so often, it raises it and you go, “No, no, no, no, no, no. I can’t deal with
you because it’ll So, you’re constant.” But what you’re doing is you’re building more and
more and more and you’re building more pressure till eventually it goes. And that’s how you’re
seeing people now because the gener especially my generation and and probably the generation above
me as well like like your uncle’s ages like them. I’ve got I’ve got two uncles have a breakdown
now like that generation there as well. you can see it whether it’s whether you’re talking drugs
or you’re putting drugs in the mix or whatever it might be because there’s different elements of
course but I just I just think there’s a there’s a there’s a generation of people now especially
with all this neurodeiversity because it wasn’t identified then so these people have lived with
that with neurodeiversity for 20 30 40 years and not known and not known but suppressed it. Yeah.
Yeah. and got through life pretending it didn’t exist when really now now they’re at an age and
now all of a sudden boom it’s blowing their minds cuz they’re like I’ve been ill for 20 30 years I’m
not known and not known and thought yeah this just yeah it’s crazy it is man and I’m glad that we
finally had this sit down about mental health I think it’s it’s needed man no one talks about it
enough until someone commits suicide because of mental health or I’ve seen someone post something
on Facebook the other day like is it just me or is there a rise in mental health and I’m seeing loads
of people’s family members have got mental health and I can’t see anyone doing anything about it and
I had to comment on it um cuz I understood what he meant but what he said was incorrect because when
someone’s got mental health you can’t just ring the doctors and get them sectioned no because
they have rights so they have to be deemed they have to admit themsel or a doctor has to deem
them um well there have to be a danger to Yeah, they have to be a danger to themselves or somebody
else. So, so then what does that mean? You’ve got to go and battle someone or you got to go and
ple your mom or slice someone or do something because when people have mental health like I’ve
got a cousin that’s got having a breakdown now and you can actually see him like two people when
you talk to him sometimes you can see him like getting angry and aggressive and then he’ll calm
himself. It’s like he sees it can snip snap in and out of it. And it’s it’s a dangerous thing because
what if one day he doesn’t snap out of it and just loses it and and and you know the thing about
is especially when there’s certain people out there that have lived a certain lifestyle where
at that time within that period of time you’ve been a certain way and you’ve been a certain way
towards people or you’ve done certain things to people. At some stage it’s going to come to you.
Of course, it’s going to come back to you where because there’s a there’s a a moral standard and
there’s a there’s a part of you where you go, that was wrong. Mhm. And sometimes you don’t manage to
have the opportunity to go to somebody and say, do you know what it is? Listen, sorry. Yeah. Trust
me. Trust me. And some people have almost afraid to say sorry. Yeah. It’s like like you said, like
you said the other day, I I message you and said, “Sorry for not being in.” I don’t have any
issue apologizing if I feel like because we I feel like we’ve got a good a good quite
a good relationship. So for you to reach out to me and then for me to air you I felt rude a
bit disrespectful. So that’s why but I’m going to give you an example here about this word sorry
and I don’t know if it happens in all households but I know obviously with people my mom was
black dad’s white so I brought up in a black household and I know you’ll know what I’m saying.
So remember the times when you do something wrong? I’m going to say allegedly. Just just going to
say. So you know when you do something wrong and you get caught and you go sorry sorry because
you know the belt’s coming out or the piece of sticks coming out. That’s not real sorry though,
right? And you go sorry sorry. And they go what you sorry for what you crying for? Do you want
me to give you something to cry for? Or has has a stick broke half in her ear. No. True. But
you see what it is. The problem is is because then you’re identifying sorry because you’re not
actually sorry. So sorry actually become it’s like the song sorry seems to be the hardest word or
something like that. Yeah. And and that’s what it is. Sorry becomes a thing where you should only
say it when you actually do genuinely mean it. I think people do use sorry quite willy-nilly. But I
think a lot of people don’t use it all. And I also think that because of the generation not being
able to handle mental health and the way they’ve suppressed it for so many years, they could have
treated their children a lot better. And and I I include myself in that. Yeah. I So anybody
goes, “Ah, I include myself in that because of suffering from mental health and suppressing
all these all these feelings that I have. I’ve not been able to be the best person that I could
have been.” I agree with that. And also I think what you also have is there’s certain standards of
people now. I’m not going to say who and I won’t go into detail but they still keep up that same
facade now from 20 30 years ago. And therefore they’re never going to get better. Never. Never.
Because they have to keep because they’re lying to themselves. So they’re never you’re never going to
be right because I you can’t improve if you don’t identify the problem. Like my my thing right
now is um accountability and action. So take accountability for it and act. Do something
about it. Do you know what I mean? Like there’s no point in like for my last last podcast people
like, “Oh, I big you up, man. You you you’re a good storyteller and you wore your heart on
your sleeve. I would have the confidence to do that.” And it’s like the thing is me not
like telling the truth. Yeah. I’m not lying, bro. Like there is points where I feel like I
could be a better parent. There’s times where I’ve been [ __ ] or I’ve been bitter towards my baby
mom cuz me and her are getting on. So I’m like, “F her then.” But I’d always see my kids, but then
I’d just be bitter and do silly little things. And you know, it’s it you No one’s perfect. You live
and you learn. You got you have what I always say, and not to drift off of the topic of mental
health, but why I always say is you’ve got to take accountability for everything you do in
life, bro. You can’t you cannot just live in a bubble cuz I think that adds to mental health
cuz the the people who I know that are suffering with the mental health right now don’t take
accountability. It’s always somebody else. But while I’ll throw something in the mix then is it
easy to take accountability when you’re suffering with mental health though? Do you even know what
accountability is? So it’s it’s difficult to say because again when I’m and again I’ll speak on
myself. I know there’s been times where I found it very hard to take accountability because what
I can do is I can I can find it easier to justify it. Yeah. I can find it I find it easy to be
able to justify what I’m saying more than take accountability for it. Yeah. No, it’s definitely
not easy. Do you know what I mean? And that’s and that’s me as an individual. You know what I mean?
No, I think we’ve all personally I’ve done that as well. Um, a lot of tons of people have done it.
The only difference is is you’ve got me and you sat on camera that are going singing it with our
chest. Yeah. Yeah. But I think that’s what you got to do. Like I think I think that’s what’s kept me
sane. Do you know I think for me as well cuz again when we spoke about it and I know this this was
your idea of speaking on mental health and then I thought to myself, well, you know what is we we’ve
got a platform. We both got a platform. Again, there’s people that will see me. There’s people
that will see you and then hopefully there’s people that are going to see me actually speaking
and going, you know what? [ __ ] hell. Exactly. My man can say that because trust me, there’s a lot
of people out there struggling and I’m talking my generation of of being who who have been a certain
stature in life or within their area and you’re suffering with mental health. cost because you’ve
got to think as well like when I thought about it I was thinking about it today and I was thinking
the life that you lived and the people in them and amongst that life most there’s going to be
guaranteed people because certain actions you’re making are going to sit with you you’re not an
animal and you have to understand there was a stigma around disability because for me to speak
about so called mental health is a disability yeah yeah but for me when you spoke about disability
when I was younger I a disability was if you walked funny or you was in a wheelchair. Same
same. If you if you had mental health, you you gone mad. That’s my house. Yeah, that’s it. That
that was it. That was a disability. But again, you’re talking neurodyiversity, HDD, ADHD,
um dyslexia. They’re all a disability. It’s neurodeiverse. So I I just I just believed that
people are not willing to come forward and say, “Listen, I’m suffering with mental health.” Yes.
That’s what it was like for me when I was a kid for school because of things was how things was at
home. Going to school, I just forget all about it. It’s only on that bus ride home that reality kicks
back in again. It’s like, “Right, [ __ ] Let’s it’s back to I think I mean if I look back now and
I and I go back through through my past traumas I would go I’ve been suffering with trauma from
being 14 15 about 14 15 but constantly suppressing constantly suppressing constantly suppressing but
then and do you know like for me as well is is not telling nobody yeah yeah that’s what it was for
me yeah so I don’t tell no one these are all And again, I will go this far as well is it’s scary
to think if I opened my mouth and said everything, I’m scared where I might end up. It’s true. Cuz
it’s it is like you say, some of the choices that you’ve probably made in your life, you you can’t
really discuss again. Some of the the the actions you’ve taken, you can’t it’s what you’re going to
have to bury. So then if you was a person that was suppressing other things, you’re just going to add
to that that’s just going to build up and build up more. So it is good that you’re in a place where
you can express yourself and you can vent and let these things off your chest because Yeah. But I
think for like again for me it’s only a certain level. I mean there’s only a certain level
that I I have vented. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, obviously you can’t let everything but like I I
just think for me I just think a lot of people a lot of people probably do the same thing as what
I do and suppressing these things and you know what it is your mind has a way of how it tricks
you tricks you into not even speaking of those things not even thinking of them but then all of a
sudden every so often they just pop up and you go oh no no no can’t do that we can’t we we we can’t
go there because because of the fear of what it could possibly built to. So with saying that, what
do you think is the reason that what do you think it’s kept you sane then? Because obviously you’ve
been through a lot, you’ve experienced a lot and you’ve even openly said that you suppress a lot.
Yeah. And you’ve only let out a small bit. So if that’s the case, obviously that’s always building
up a what what’s your not trick, but what what’s what works for you? Do you know what it’s funny?
the person that watches will know the conversation that I’ve had with them. Um, and I just fill my
mind with everything. So, everything is work. So, I usually have like 10 15 things on the go. Keep
yourself busy. Yeah. So I keep myself busy even to the and I know that I need to probably I’m going
to have to see somebody professionally but I just for me it’s more of a situation where like even
like even on a night I can’t have silence. You know most people go I have silence to go to
sleep. I can’t have silence. Yeah. Cuz then you’re going to be in your thoughts. Then I start
thinking. So what I have to do is so usually I’ll lay my phone to the side. I might put an earphone
in and then I’ll I’ll watch YouTube. So I’ll watch a podcast or I’ll or I’ll watch something
that’s but it’s people speaking. I can’t it’s not action. Can’t watch a boxing fight or something
or UFC. I can’t watch nothing like that. It has to be where people talk. So most time it might
be a boxing show where people are talking. So anybody talking I’m okay. Like for years it would
be the telly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then I stopped that and then now it’s where I’ll listen to
podcasts and I I’ll just listen to things. So my mind because if I lay and close my eyes like
my mind will just wander and for many years for me I always got woke up which a lot of people won’t
know this but for years I always got the only way I would wake up was with a bang. What do you mean
like you’d hear a bang? Yeah. So I would hear a bang and I would wake up. That’s how I woke up
for like every night. Every night for about 3 years. That’s mad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it would
be I’m not I can’t say what it is. I don’t know if it was was a a gunshot or whatever it was or
whatever or whatever, but it was always bang. So it’ be a loud bang bang and I’d wake up and then
and me and me as a person once I’m awake, you I’m awake. So if I woke up at 5:00 in the morning, I’m
awake. Yeah, that’s me, you know. I can’t get back to sleep and then I’ll just work work and then
now So again, look, we we’re in the office. I’ve like I’ve got my monitor on, I got my laptop on.
I I’ll have so many different things and then I’ll have like things that are open like most people
say closed down things. I on the top of my thing now if I went to it I’d probably got 25 things
open. Okay. So I’m constantly your mind’s always on something else other than that. Yeah. My mind’s
always ticking because I’m scar this part of me that’s scared where I don’t want it to go into a
situation where but I know at some stage I’m I’m going I’m going towards that. So I know where I’m
going. Yeah. I know where. Self awareness is very important with So my self-awareness is telling
me I’m gradually going there cuz I know I need to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So So again, when people
see you and they go, “Oh, yeah.” Nah, no. People don’t know like what what goes on in your mobile
mind cuz I’m quite a smiley jolly person. People probably never think I’ve I get depressed or I’m
down. But when you don’t see me on social media or you don’t see my I might be going through
it. That’s probably what I’m I’m But and it’s for you made a point that I didn’t even realize
that I was doing where you say you’ve always got to have something on a night I’ve always got to
have something on and I don’t know I don’t think because professionals to do that professionals
will tell you like they say especially with children you’re meant to have at least like a
couple of hours beforehand so you wind down so you so you get the kids off the computers or phones
or whatever. So you meant to make your mind like so I I can’t do it really. I I genu like I can’t
I can’t I cannot tell you the last time I went to sleep like on a night like not laid on the sofa
and your daughter. Yeah, that’s different. That’s different. But where I’m genuinely like in bed on
a night and you’re like come on, we’re going to sleep now and switch everything off and go no. It
could never happen. Yeah, that’s mad. It’s never It could never happen. It’s interesting, man. Like
I said, I didn’t ever know that that’s what that was. I just thought it’s just my routine in it. I
just keep some on all the time. But it is if I I don’t really sit in silence much to the corner or
something. But I can’t keep still. I told you. I told you. It’s like a piss bed. Sorry. Sorry.
Sorry, Dad. Is my dad. No. No. Because again, maybe maybe it’s a protection. Yeah, maybe it’s I
can’t pinpoint what it is. Yeah, it is difficult. I see me, I’m a person, I always try to get to
the root of things. I try to understand why that’s happened and the effect of of my actions on people
and stuff like that. I always try to understand that. See, I get that. But mine would be for
other people, not for myself. Is it? Yeah. So, you try to understand other people. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I think I do it for both. But I definitely self-reflect a lot. Sometimes I excessively do
it. Um, and some people say I’m hard on myself, but I’d rather be hard on myself than
people being trying to be being hard on me, if that makes sense. Like I’d rather identify a
problem with myself before someone else identifies it so that I can address it before anyone else.
Already too late for me. Everybody knows what my issues are. Already gone. Even more so now, is it
now that you’ve been telling them all your little secrets on camera? Yeah. It’s not a secret. Do
you know what I mean? Like for me, I like I don’t care. Mhm. Mhm. Same. Like I don’t care. And I’ve
always been that. Again, I think maybe for years you suppress things because you don’t want people
to look at you in a different light. Yeah. It’s true. I mean, you don’t want people to look at
you and go is this is that is the other. Like, don’t get it twisted. I’m same. I’m still the
same person. Like, I’ll still get angry at the same things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You
know what I mean? There’s still a certain level of of disrespect or what accept I mean so don’t
like I’m sane. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it’s just that what I do is I I just suppress so much like I just
keep it keep it down. I think as well people take being open and honest as like a sense of weakness.
Yeah. Yeah. And that’s why it’s a good thing that you said I’m still the same. No, can’t change.
Like I’m still exactly the same. It’s like I find that as well, like people that may may have known
me when I was a teenager or in my early 20s would have had a certain level of respect for me then.
And it’s like I’ve got a cousin for example. I he used to look up to me like I was cuz he’s got
he’s got siblings and his siblings never dealt with him, right? So he was annoying as ass. He
ch for England. Um and I took him under my wing. Even points where I’ve had to back him. I’ve his
brothers are battering him and I’ve had to steam him out. How the [ __ ] What are you doing, man?
Get off him. Um and shout at him and tell him off. So he used to proper look up to me. But then you
find that when I changed and I I settled down with my baby mom and he started to look at me like I
was a [ __ ] all of a sudden. M and then he’d say stuff about me to people and that to the point
where we don’t even talk now and he was like my little brother. But it’s because people kind of
identify being when you change and you grow up and you mature that you you’re weak now and you’re
not the Yeah. But people I mean people will always do that, don’t they? Because it’s the point of
not knowing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s what it is. It’s like when people don’t see you for a
long time, yeah, mama. Yeah. them is just and like they see you again and it’s like I’m still the
same person. Like nothing’s changed. Like for me, you go pressure cooker and you have the valve and
and then I let out like for me now it’s more of a thing where you write things down. You know what
I mean? Like just write just right. And then you can just keep it there and you constantly just
go back over it. Go back over it. Go back over it and you go, “Okay, there’s an answer. There’s
okay there’s another answer into there. There’s another answer into there.” And you constantly
go back to it. Yeah. And then what I’ll do is I keep I keep on to the same thing. So I keep on
to the same thing, the same memory and just keep going back over it. Keep going back over it. Keep
going back over it because I keep coming up with different things. Okay. So you you are heavy on
evaluating them, aren’t you? By the sounds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think with with people
with complex minds like I believe minds are complex minds. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. No,
but I think people with complex minds can’t have one answer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I understand.
Because one answer doesn’t cut it. Yeah. Cuz it’s not enough. It’s not enough. And you always
got to think that there’s always more. Of course. And I think depending on your environment Yeah.
Depending on your environment and your society, um, poverty, home, parents, there’s a lot of
things that’s in the mix. So therefore, it can’t be just one thing. It can never be just one
thing, can it? It has to be a collection of things that have done that to you. Because again, I speak
and say not having a father figure. Um, not having somebody that you can go speak to. So most of the
time I came up with answers to myself. Yeah. Same. Like I put up a status the other day about my my
circumstances like, oh, I’ve fallen off. I need to fix up where where that’s just me wanting to take
accountability and also wanted to say to people, look, we all have ups and downs. Let’s go. Don’t
let and also it gives people another I mean again personally not something I would do. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. But I say me I don’t have social media as you know personally I wouldn’t do it. Most people
wouldn’t. That’s that’s what made me want to it more. But then you by you doing that that gives
people an understanding saying oh that’s what’s going on with my but you get naivity within people
then don’t you go mama’s put up st but me I’m a status man. I get it. I could I could I could set
up a charity. I’m only laughing. Yeah, because what have I done? No, you didn’t do you didn’t
do anything. It made me laugh. Um the car. No, it was the um it was the uh it was the one about
your girl wanted to go to Jamaica. Oh, lock it. Yo, listen. That went mad. When I did that on
Snapchat mad when when I saw that one, you was like, listen talking about, oh yeah, it’s the sea
in the sun and all that. G to go see Lennox and listen. I’ve listen in the Caribbean them don’t
play. They don’t play. They’ll steal up your G. They’ll take some stone and mash up your garbage
and make her not want make her think about leaving you. It just had Oh, listen. I couldn’t stop
laughing. Honestly, it had it had me for about a good 5 10 minutes. Um, and then Yeah. Yeah. If I
had Tik Tok when I first made that and put it out proper like a following that would have gone viral
that cuz it was hilarious. That was a moment. It was a funny one. That was a moment. But actually,
funny enough, we got a couple of stats. Oh yeah, man. We got we had a couple of stats here. I can
delete United there, you know, K. Oh, it’s all right. Come on, lad. Um, so again, so some of the
stats that I I got up today, um, was one where it was saying black adults are less likely to receive
treatment. Okay. And 25% of black individuals seek mental health treatment when needed compared
to 40% of white individuals. I believe that though. I feel like white white guys take more
accountability and own the fuckups more. Like I my white man I’m on me ass. I’m on me ass. I’ll never
hear a black man say that. I’m on my I’m on my unless they unless you don’t want to pay you. I’m
on my face. Oh, you know what I mean? But yeah, actually I I I do believe that. I agree with that.
Yeah, I do believe that. Yeah, there was another one where it was um black individuals feel more
judged or misunderstood when seeking help. Yeah, I agree with that as well. on a wider scale. Yeah.
But do you I don’t agree that it’s the case. Yeah. But what I’m saying is is so when when I’m reading
that now, so black individuals for feel more judged or misunderstood when seeking help. But
is that because of the community and of because of the because of who they’re surrounding. Yeah. I
think it’s the stigma around mental health. Yeah. It’s a stigma around the stigma around mental
health. I think with I don’t think that would be professionals. No, no, no, no. I think it’s a
stigma around it. Like like we were saying earlier on in the in on the pod, you who do you go to to
have that conversation with when you when you’re going through it? Like you don’t want that. Like
I said, I’ve been down and I felt like I wanted to open up to my brethren. But I just couldn’t do it.
I just couldn’t do it, bro. And it was I couldn’t understand. And it’s just me and him. Me and him
talk about anything. Everything. I’ve got no shame when it comes to him. He’s got no shame. like
there’s no but that I remember one time I was down and I would couldn’t even open up. I didn’t know
what I didn’t know how to start the conversation. But you know what though that that leads me onto
the thing where you go about the advice you would give is not always the advice you would receive.
It’s true. It’s true when it comes especially when it comes to mental health and pride and ego. It’s
difficult% difficult man. It’s hard. It’s true. You can’t It is difficult to give people advice
sometimes because you’re not in their shoes. You don’t like Yeah. We’ve all had women. We’ve
all had J partners, things, whatever you want to call them. But you you don’t have that. I’ve never
had tings, by the way. I just want to put it out there. Yeah. Yeah. He had But I have had things.
I ain’t going to lie. Mine. He’s a good lad. No. I was a piece of [ __ ] I won’t I won’t lie. Okay.
So, what about this one then? Um, black young adults aged 18 to 25 have the highest of mental
health conditions compared to other racial groups. I probably believe that as well. I probably
believe that as well. Like um I’ve noticed a few I mean listen they’re off they’re off a credible
website as well. I’ve noticed a few Asians are starting to get mental health but even when I do
see it is a lot of black men. It’s funny because there was um there’s a guy called Sunny Mhm. I
think um off um don’t ball it up on TikTok. I think he commented on Is it the guy that owe you
on? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said my dad I think my dad built his uh Yeah. Yeah. So
again when he he he talks about the community cuz he’s he’s seeking he talks about the community
where a lot of it is surrounded by alcohol and it’s just your general norm celebration.
Yeah. It’s like a celebration. You get a car, you celebrate a kid, house, wife, marriage, it’s
always drinks. So the lot a lot of work that he’s doing because again we have to understand when you
put substance when you put why whether it’s drugs, alcohol, what recreational, whatever it might be,
when you put drugs in the mix as well with mental health, I mean you’re just you’re just topping
up, are you? Of course you are, man. Of course you are. I think I’ve noticed a few people that
I know that have got mental health, they drink and they smoke weed excessively. Yeah. And you
see the change like I again my cousin I seen him he drinking drinking drinking and then he’s
fine when he first come linking by the end he’s just going he’s like talking to himself he’s and
you see his mental health treat spike when he’s drinking it’s just like yeah it’s hor it’s rough
man. So the last one I had here was black adults are more likely to experience serious thoughts
of suicide and higher rates of suicide attempts. Don’t know how if I don’t know if I agree with
that, you know. I don’t know if I agree with that. But but you got to remember there’s a key
the key word is is is thoughts. Thoughts. Yeah. But I don’t know how you can say how how you can
identify that because most black people don’t even speak about it. So how you even going to know
what their thoughts are? Yeah. So I don’t know as I don’t understand where they got the that
information from. But it could be it could be it could be true. I I don’t know cuz the you do
get like if you ever been down you may have had a thought like I wonder if life would probably be
better if if I want here you know what I mean like I’ve had that thought before I’ve never ever acted
on it and it’s never been more than that thought but then you got to slap yourself out and be like
you know what I’ve got a lot to live for and I’ve got a lot going on what am I why am I just because
A and B is not matching up you still got CD E and Think think logically, bro. Yeah, I think there’s
a there’s a lot of people out there. I mean, I think there’s more people out there that would be
willing to admit it. Yeah. Cost be load There’ll be loads of people that watch this that’ll be like
So, it’s not just me. Yeah. 100%. Cuz it happens, bro. Like, it’s life, man. Like, it happens.
There’s no doubt that it happens. Um, and again, similar to yourself, I’ve had them thoughts. Yeah,
I thought it it’s not I think it’s not normal, but it it happens. You know what it is? I think
again and again, I don’t want to be quoted or misqued. I’m just going to say what my view is. Is
one of the things for me with with with suicide, um, people have said for many years it’s, you
know, it’s a coward’s way out and this that and the other. I don’t believe that. I do. You know,
see, so we’ll have we’ll have a discussion on it because I think it actually takes unless it’s
mental health, unless it’s serious mental health. Yeah. Then obviously you’re not thinking Yeah.
correctly, are you? But for you to do something where you know once you’ve done that, it’s done.
It’s done. I think takes some ball. Yeah. That is a fair point. Do you know what I mean? I think
I I that’s just I’m just saying me. I’m I’m not I’m not speaking on anybody else’s behalf.
Unless you say you’re different you’re dealing with psychosis or serious mental health or you
genuinely believe that there’s nobody going to miss you or you don’t have anybody. I understand
those bits, but I genuinely believe like it takes some serious bottle for you. And I’m not going
to go into descriptions of what people do and how you go about it. I’m just saying for you to
go and you go, “Right, this is what I’m going to do.” And then you go and you and you do and you
go after once I do this, this is the end result, bro. I’m I’m talking on myself now. I’m thinking
like that’s that’s that I and and I can’t disagree with that. what why I why my why I have the
stance that I have is why I think it’s cowardly is because we’ve all um had a death in the family.
We’ve all lost someone that we love and we felt that pain. So for you to do that and then inflict
that same pain on your loved one. And I think when it’s suicide, I haven’t had a family member or
a loved one that’s um died from suicide. People thought my mom um died from suicide because um
one of my friends moms see my mom when she was down and she said I said something like I wish
my life would probably be better off if I weren’t here. And then so that rumor kind of circulate
but it was never that but in regards to so so I think suicide deaths are worse for people for the
for the the family because it’s like I could have done something to stop this. I could have. You’ve
always got that should have, would a, could have with that. Whereas if someone dies from cancer
or getting hit by a bus, well, hit by a bus, you can say, “Oh, if I had to give him a lift,
but if they from cancer or something, there’s it’s that’s been the cause.” I think yours yours is I
think yours is more on the sense of look at the pain you’re leaving behind. Yeah, that’s exactly
what it is. Whereas Yeah. Look at itself. I think maybe not cowardly, selfish. I think it’s a bit
more of a selfish act cuz you’re not thinking about the people that you’re leaving behind and
then the pain some I mean I’m not going to get into religions because you stay away from but
religions that don’t that don’t agree with it as well. I can imagine so because I’m sure I’ve heard
that God don’t agree with it. I’m sure I’ve heard Christians say that. Um, I think look, I don’t I
mean I I think look, I think if you are suffering with serious mental health, um, then I don’t
think you’re thinking about your loved ones, are you? Yeah. Yeah. No, you’re not. I mean, you know,
he’s not in the right place. He’s not in the right place. But again, like for me, I just I think
it just takes some serious and I don’t think you are. And you know what? In in one sense as well, I
can see what you’re saying with the with with the selfish part because really you’re only thinking
about yourself at that moment. You’re not thinking about anybody else. Of course, you are because
Yeah, you’re not. Yes, I can see your point. But then on the flip side about thinking about you’re
always told in life to put yourself first. Yeah. So then are they not just to putting themselves
first? There’s a there’s a point for each side. There’s an argument for each each I do definitely
think it’s very and I think women as well you know suicide it’s worse for women. Um what do you mean?
So I I read something the other day where it was something to do with with with the brain where
women hold on to things a lot longer than men. I believe. So when you’re talking about like
things that are bad, the woman will will it will manifest longer with a woman than what I
think it’s something to do with serotonin or something like that. It was something to do with
the brain anyway. I can believe that. Yeah, it was something to do with that because women have less
than men and therefore we can ours fluctuate so we were able to like detach from Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So I just I don’t know. I think suicide will always be a debatable. Yeah, of course. There’s
no right or wrong answer. No, there’s no right or wrong. I just think it’s what your view is,
but for me, like I say, and again, you have the cries for help, you know, those those attempted
for attempting suicide, although it will go down as attempted suicide. But again, I know people
that will speak to you about people in jail. The amount of people like on acts now that are on
suicide watching jail is at the highest it’s ever been. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s the
highest it’s ever been. Why? Why do you think I don’t know? I don’t know. I mean, I Yeah, I don’t know. I I
couldn’t tell cuz I think I think mental health is at the highest it’s ever been. It’s rife.
Like about a few weeks ago, I was I was at I was at cabin. There was a guy there was a guy with
mental health there. Then I’ve left cabin, gone to sensations barber shop, Chapel Town Road. There’s
a guy on the on on Chapel Town Road. Whiling like just shouting at cars and stuff. I’ve seen him. I
think the hat like a like a hat something asking brother. Yeah. He was on he was on my vlog with
Vinnie. Oh yeah. The same that was on the vlog. Okay. Yeah. And um then I’ve gone down chat road.
There’s a guy in the wreck. This Asian guy. He’s talking to himself. gone back up to cabin. There’s
not the same guy that’s got mental health. There’s another guy there. This is all in the same day.
I’ve bumped into about five people with mental health and that like it’s visible mental health.
It’s not like people are holding stuff in and suffering. It’s visible. They’re talking to theel
acting out of character and that’s in Chapel Town. So you think it how many people are suffering
in leads and the the the horrible thing about it is they can’t get the because some of them
don’t identify as a problem. They’re just left to walk around until they hurt somebody and
that’s the thing about mental health that it hurts my soul because it’s like they need
sectioning. They need that support. They need they don’t they’re not it’s not even necessarily
being sectioned. It’s just having support. They just need the support. Yeah. Yeah, some of them
do need sectioning. Like I feel like the one of them ombres I seen that they needed sectioning.
Two or three of them needed sectioning. I think with with mental health as well and again it’s
it’s we’re just two people talking on it from from what we’ve seen what we’ve identified and and
personal journeys. There’s no no professional. No, I think I think with mental health it’s
quite widespread. And again, I’m not no um I’m not um no scientist, far from it. But I do
believe these these strains of of cannabis strains now, the THC levels definitely is. And and again,
I’m not a professional, but it’s fact and I don’t smoke it. It’s fact. I smoke it. So, so I can’t I
I can’t have that view on it. But what I will say like the psychosis off the back of these strains,
I truly believe it’s messing with people’s brains a million%. Every single person that I seen I just
mentioned them five people all born weed. One one of them don’t burn smelly but Jinx Guinness like
it’s going out of fashion. Yeah. I I just Yeah. I um mental health definitely has a major impact
on people’s mental health. Um weed definitely has a massive impact on people’s mental health. But
you see what the problem is is when people smoke weed won’t take accountability for it. They
won’t admit that that’s the issue. That’s the issue. That’s that’s a big part of your issue cuz
I’ve seen luckily for me I’m from the tribe of Reuben. Okay. I’m born in April from so I’m
very observant and I evaluate things a lot. So I I’ll evaluate myself how I am when I don’t
smoke cuz I’ll take like um I call them ganja detoxes. So I might stop for 30 days or I might
stop for a period of time. I just stop completely. You know it is maybe my willpower. I always end
up going back and having a spliff and then once I’ve had one then the next day I’ll have I might
say tomorrow I won’t smoke. So I might even not smoke tomorrow but then again I might come around
on Friday. Ah, and I find like I’ll be honest with you, I find weed I shouldn’t be telling you my
my secrets, you know, but weed and Guinness is that my that’s my um that’s my stone. Okay,
you get me? That gives me my superpower. So, it’s hard for me to let that go because I’m
feeling like super mobile cape without that. You get what I’m saying? So it’s just one of them car
like why I have to keep reading there little piece think about edibles but then edibles get me too
high where I’m feeling my my body feels high for this you know what listen I I went to someone’s
house I’ve got to be careful how I say it because I want to give it away with the person was but I
went there to through the work that I do yeah yeah um and I went and I and I said to the um I said
to the mother I was like oh I came yesterday no Must have been a Monday. They were like, “Oh,
can’t move. I done an edible Sunday night.” And I was like, and again, I’m thinking, “Fucking
hell, I thought they were just meant to chill you out.” But from what I hear with these
people that are having these these edibles, like they can’t move. They’re horrible. Your
your blood feels high. Your blood feels high, Carl. That’s the only way I can expl my body felt
high. I’m thinking, “What the [ __ ] is this?” So, listen to me. You need to explain to me or explain
to that camera there because I don’t get it. I don’t understand how you can have something that
will paralyze you so you can’t even like do you know my biggest fear? I tell you what my biggest
fear is um is um not being in control of your body also. Is it is it Alzheimer’s which is to do with
your brain? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Parkinson’s Alzheimer’s. Parkers above. Yeah. Yeah. They that
they’re my biggest they’re my that’s my biggest fear, you know, forgetting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And don’t get me wrong, you go through stages of your life where short-term memory
longterm and you do forget things as you get a little bit older, but that’s because you’re
consuming so much anyway. You’re allowed to. Weed does that to you anyway. What I’m saying is
is that’s my biggest not being able to control or being in control because I’ve always been in
control of my mind. Right or wrongly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I’ve been in control of my mind. So that’s
my biggest fear that that fear of not knowing or sorry knowing that you’re not in control of your
mind that that blows my mind. Yeah. No, that is that is scary. But I think when you’re smoking
weed or even if you have an edible I don’t feel like you don’t feel like you’re in control. I just
feel like you’re just lazy and you’re just more lethargic. I wouldn’t say you feel like you’re
not in control of your mind. What I would say with excessive weed smoking is yeah, you lose you do
lose your short-term memory. You get bra excessive um weed smoking and phones, social media, having
an addiction to them two things. You get brain fog. Well, you get brain fog. Don’t get me started
on that. Going down different rails because again I think mobile phones and the social media are
one of the biggest strains on mental health especially for the younger generation. Of course.
Of course. Because I think if you look at and you there’s a strong link and again this will still
lead it will still lead you to mental health. Mhm. Because drugs dopamine hit, alcohol dopamine
hit. Social media has gives you a dopamine hit them likes and Yeah. likes. But the dopamine
hit that you get off social media. Yeah. Is far worse. Now somebody a scientist may correct
me wrong. Might might say he’s talking rubbish. Just hear me out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can take
drugs. Not that I’m saying you should or you can drink alcohol. Not that I’m saying you should.
However, you took this and you will get that dopamine hit and it might last you half an hour,
an hour, 15, whatever it might be. You take that your dopamine hit of social media. Yeah. Is is
anything between 30 seconds and 3 minutes. when everyone talks about the impact social media has
on people’s mental health to talk about the vanity side of things. So, everyone making everything
look glossy and women with the filters and people that are watching this, you you go on to the
YouTube channel and you’ll see things. There’s there’s ones with girl pretty boy pretty. I don’t
even think I’ve put it out yet, but and if you go through go on to the social media part of when you
talk about there’s actually people that can have they want Snapchat they’re asking they’re going to
surgeons and asking for Snapchat filter. So they want to look like the filter that they can facts.
These are facts, bro. Cuz this another mental health another mental health people are asking for
the Snapchat. So they want that filter like you can get on Snap, they’re asking for that. I forgot
what they call it, but if you go on to the if you go on like when you finish here and you you go on
to our YouTube channel, go on to the social media part and I think it’s either in Snapchat or it’s
on or it might be on it’s on I don’t think it’s on Instagram. I think it’s on the Snapchat one and
they’re they’re talking about it. They’re actually talking about wanting to look like the filters.
I’m going to watch that. I need to I’ve got a few of yours to catch up on. Honestly, it’s crazy.
Absolutely. It’s bizarre, bro. It’s bizarre what people It’s crazy. It’s It’s Yeah, it’s it’s it’s
sad to be fair more than anything because it’s like love the skin you’re in, man. I was saying
this to someone the other day. Super pretty, but she don’t rate herself. Yeah, but you see
again it’s a mental health. It’s mental health in it. Because again, but again, it’s it’s
how you view yourself. It’s like me. I mean, I’m a bit fat now, but people would go like I
would look at myself and go, I’ve got skinny arms cuz there people with body dysmorphia. Yeah. Yeah.
There’s so many different elements of whereas we’re just covering as as individuals from certain
areas. That’s what we’re genuinely covering from a generation that we’re from. When you look at
all these other elements of mental health, Roy, that’s why it’s so widespread. And again, I’m not
a professional to speak on on other things. One of the things that I look into and then and
I’m still not an expert. You’re levelheaded and you’ve got common sense. And I think that’s
all you really need to do to be able to draw a decision and understand. Well, you can have common
sense and still suffer with mental health. Oh, definitely. That don’t stop you. Yeah. My uncle
the the got the most common sense in the world. He’s the most righteous man that I’ve probably
ever met. You know, if if it weren’t for him, a lot of things wouldn’t be the way they
are within the family and stuff. Like, he made sure I would had a good relationship
with my family irrespective of when my dad was going on with his [ __ ] You know what I mean?
He’s he’s the reason I believe he’s the reason why Mike is a footballer. And I’ll say it with my
chest. My uncle link is the reason why Michael is a footballer because I remember being in the car
with my man and he’s saying to me he sat down with Michael and saying when you make it don’t forget
Jeffrey don’t forget uncle Tony don’t forget my man used to give you his football boos don’t
forget this don’t forget that you get what I mean his dad installed he was telling him when he’s not
saying if and just for Michael if you are watching this I will go with you did blow up on the scene
cuz it’s a running joke yeah based on the scene based on the scene based on the scene burst on the
scene Roy, let me and Kyle come see you staring. No, I’ll go. I’ll see Roy cuz he’s
a man I play for Man United. Oh, so you got his back. No. Are you Leaf fan? I’m
a Le. This is what I’m saying. Like don’t ever do that. You seen that? I’ve got I know. I know.
But you could have got that forgiven. No, no, no, no, no. You know how people love you off. But then
again, M back their relationship’s good. Yeah. No, it isn’t relationship. But um nah, do you know
what? In all fairness, if I’m gonna be true to No, I’m not gonna be not true to myself. I think if
you I don’t think there’s there’s can’t prove it, but I don’t think there’s an end to mental health.
I don’t think there’ll ever be a solution. There’s no one shoe fits all. No way. No way. And I
think that there’s so many different things that are continuously coming. I mean, we’re not even
getting into the realms of what people from LGBTQ A+ or whatever. I’m not being rude. I you know, it
has changed, but I’m just saying even that form of mental health, if you’re talking transgender,
if you’re talking um there’s so much things, you know what I mean? when you when you’re talking
mental health, I don’t think although people want to go mental health and put it in it, but there’s
so much side to it. I I just think mental health is is is is never ending and there’s always
something else. And what people fail to realize and these professionals as well, what what I will
say to them is you have to be very careful the way that you deal with people with with mental health
and I don’t mean just general mental health. What about people that have lived through trauma or
have suffered trauma or or have been the aggressor with trauma, you have to be very careful that
you don’t retraumatize that person. Yeah, that’s true. Because one of the key things that I’ve seen
because I’ve got a lived experience and the people that watch this know about my lived experience and
and you know also sometimes you’ll go for jobs and I found this myself. You’ll go for a job and you
say you’ve got lived experience. You explain what your lived experience is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And
you will get an interview and the chances are you’re not going to get the job. You’re not going
to get it. You’re not going to get it. And why is that? Because what it is is they’re going to
get an opportunity in no other form of life will they get the opportunity to sit down with you
with your lived experience and pick your brain. They’ll never get a chance. Yeah. They just use
cuz they’ll never get the opportunity to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In there cuz they’re never going
to cross someone like Let me tell you something. Here’s the biggest thing and I’ll I’ll leave it
here. One of the things for me is when you’re talking about um lived experience, you talk about
mental health or drugs or alcohol, anything like that, when you put an application in, the only
thing that you must declare is what? Convictions or something. Is a criminal record. You don’t have
to declare anything else. That’s true. You know, it’s an option. Have you suffered with this? Have
you? They’re options. The only thing that you must declare is criminal record. So, if you have five
people in a room all going for the one job and one’s never tooken anything, one’s taken drugs,
one’s suffer with mental health, one’s alcoholic, one the other one has a criminal lived experience.
The only person out of those five who is at a disadvantage is a person with a lived experience
because he’s the per or they are the person has to declare. Yeah. But if the person interviewing’s
got any sense, that’s probably the person that you really want. Yeah. Depending on the job. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if if enough work Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I’m saying a lot of people because
people now you’ll see a lot more people going, “Yeah, we we employ people with a lived
experience.” A lot of people are saying it now. However, there’s levels. Yeah. There’s a level
of lived experience that you’re allowed to Yeah. Yeah. You can’t go past that level cuz they go,
“Oh, no.” Yeah. Cuz they don’t Why are they going to want to work with you if you’re a lunatic?
Yeah. You know what I mean? So, there’s a there’s a level of of what lived experience you can have
or what they’ll accept. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? But yeah, I just again I don’t want
to go off topic, but yeah, the mental health side of things is um Yeah. I think in the next coming
years, you’re going to see a lot more. Definitely. I’ve noticed it’s spiked already. So, you know,
it’s it’s it’s it’s going Nothing’s changing. Things are just getting worse really. What I
wanted to ask you though is let’s say for example, you say a normal podcast, you know, where you
get to ask me a question at the end. Oh, good. I was thinking earlier, you know, ask a
question cuz I got questions, you know, um I was thinking, do you know
if let’s say someone’s had a mental breakdown to the point where
they’ve had to be hospitalized. Yeah. Do you think you can ever get past that stage
or do you think you’re always So if you’ve ever if you’ve had a breakdown, do you think you can
ever be a point where you’d never have a breakdown again or do you think you’re always going to
be vulnerable to having a breakdown? Well, it’s a good question. I think with
medication you’d probably be be okay, but the levels of medication that you take. What
do you think about the medication? cuz I’ve got some opinions on medication. See, I’m I mean I
can tell you my opinion. I mean I suffer with a thing that’s called um so I’ll have them for
the rest of my life. So I I suffer a thing called cluster headaches. Mhm. So the nickname for them
is called suicidal headaches. Okay. So think about a migraine and then like with my headaches that I
get and these are facts you can look it up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They’ve even got blogs for it. People
will run into walls to try and get rid to get rid of this pain. Like people have committed suicide
because of the pain. Because of the pain. Is that why it’s called suicidal? It’s called the nickname
for it is suicidal headache. Yeah. Um but um but the name for it is called cluster headache. And
the only way I can explain the pain to you is this is you will have to be in a dark room and
the pain is that intense that it puts you to sleep. The pain is that intense. And again, and
there’s the doctors that I’m at, they have one person there that has them all year round. Mine,
we don’t know what my trigger is. Okay? So, what it is is I have an emergency tablet. So, I know
now when I’m going to get one. And then what I do is I take the emergency tablet that will last me
24 hours. And in the meantime, I phone the doctors and they will get me my prescription. Then you
you take a tablet every single day. Now, actually, I’m meant to take the tablets all year round.
Yeah. But don’t you think your body will get used to them? Yeah. Whereas I I I can’t do it. Like I’m
not a tablet man. So I have my emergency tablet. That’s I think that’s better for your body though,
man. Well, it’s like antibiotics. I’ve had anti in my my age now. I’ve only ever had antibiotics
once in my life. Swear down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So although I always go back to my grandmother’s
old remedies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The best way, man. You know what I mean? because she would
then again it would be a spoonful of castor oil, spoonful of cod liver oil, garlic tea. Mhm. Um
and a spoonful of Vaseline. Yeah. So that that was my morning routine. So spoonful of caul,
spoonful of castor oil, a spoonful of Vaseline, garlic tea, and then to finish off, you’d have
a nutmeg drink, a sweet nutmeg drink. And that’s what you had every morning Monday to Friday. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That’s what you had. Weekends off. The Vaseline bits throwing me off. I never understood
it either, but I’m guessing the only I don’t know why, but I’m guessing the Vaseline thing was to
to line your your intestines up. That’s all I can think. I can’t think of anything else, but that’s
what I had religiously growing up. Okay. Do you know what? I don’t knock any of the old remedies
because I look at that older generation and um I know I know man like 89, 90, drink
like [ __ ] and it’s still going good, going strong. My my my granddad, my mom’s dad, he
was about your height, slim, right? Tall, slim, but he was as strong as an ox. Like he you got to
think my my granddad’s tiny and then you know some of my uncles. You know, my uncle Neil that used
to do security work and stuff in Austin. Yeah. Yeah. Look at the size of them. And he could keep
them in order. And I think that’s because he was physic naturally physically strong, mentally
strong. And the stuff they at back home, they had these remedies. Like I remember once I had a
cold, this chesty cough and I couldn’t shake it. I went down to my granddads. I was in high school.
I think I went after rugby train on the first day. So I’ve gone down coughing. He’s like, “What’s
up?” I said, “I got this cough.” All right, one minute. He gone upstairs, got some whiskey, honey,
some I think I don’t know if it black pepper or something. put it in this jar and they’re saying
drink that but don’t take too much or you’re gonna get drunk. I’m thinking to myself, granddad, I’ve
been pissed with my mates already. You don’t even know I can handle that. So, I’ve sucked it. Next
day I was fine. You got to remember people used to it’s like when um when kids used to be teething
used to whiskey and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, if you did that now Oh god. Oh, listen.
CS what they called? Not CSA. Social services at your door. At your door straight away your kids
are gone. But yeah, that’s that’s another story. But no, listen. Yeah, this is this has to come out
on a on a good on a on a good Yeah, this needs it this needs its time, man. Should be a good But in
the meantime, we’re going to think of something else. We’re going to think what for the next one.
Yeah. Yeah, we’re going to do another enjoy these, man. Um but yeah, I think you know it’s a
little bit different this one because it’s not really interview. But yeah, listen. Um what
I’ll say is this is um not so much to just you, but to everybody else. Listen, if if not even if
you know what it is, just check up on your people. Definitely. That’s something I’m definitely going
to take from I think just just checking on your people. And again, if you think of them, phone
them. Phone them. Yeah. No, definitely. You know, I’m not saying go around to the house and if they
don’t answer, just send them a message. And you know what is a guy I’ve got an Asian friend that
does it with me like if I miss his call if I’m in a meeting or something he he just pulls very
simple he was in my thoughts so I give you a call. Oh yeah man I like that you was in my thoughts
that’s why I gave you a call that I like that and you know what it is then you automatically go
I’ve got to ring you back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? And maybe if you do
it to that that person you do the same thing to them maybe they’ll automatically like listen I
need to phone him back. It’s true. And I think it’s creating a it’s a good thing to to spread
around for get people to do like just check in on your people man. Yeah. again people say you
see there’s a few people say that you know just checking check but for me I just cuz it’s hard I
I I understand now you know is it really that hard though the cost of living and work and having
working cuz you got to think sometimes you’re working to whatever time especially if you’re in
in a relationship with family home you’re working you’re leaving work you’re going home kids but
your misses might have to go off to work and might go to the gym yeah so things do take off I’m
not I’d be lying if I said they didn’t and they do And I and and days do turn into weeks and weeks
do turn into months. It’s easily done. It’s easy done. My So my thing is is look, if ever because
if they’ve come into your mind, you’ve clearly had the time to think of them. Yes. So at that
time, making that call. Making that call. Oh, send that message. Send a message. Yeah. Cuz
a message takes two seconds. There’s no excuse not to send. Don’t even get me started on that.
You see kids messaging each other all day long. Bring them. Bring them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I don’t even like messaging. I don’t even like me. tell with the link for your messages.
Sanka, pleasure as always. Pleasure as always.