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John Davis and Alex Ferrari discuss the historical and theological context of Jesus’ teachings, emphasizing the influence of Greco-Roman Christians and the Roman Catholic Church. John argues that the New Testament, particularly the writings of Luke and Paul, were created centuries after Jesus’ death and reflect a messianic agenda. He highlights the importance of Jesus’ teachings on self-empowerment and the inner kingdom of heaven, contrasting them with the fear-based doctrines of the Catholic Church.
John also recounts his past life regression experiences and the significance of Jesus’ laughter and joy, which he believes were central to his teachings. John Davis and Alex Ferrari discuss the evolution of religious beliefs, emphasizing the inclusivity of faiths like Baha’i and Zoroastrianism. They critique the fear-based origins of Abrahamic religions and the shift towards a more loving, conscious world. John shares personal anecdotes, including his son’s profound understanding of God and his own health transformation through positive affirmations. They explore the King James Bible’s translation and the influence of the Catholic Church on historical texts.
The conversation also touches on the New Age concept of the 5D, the rapture, and the misconceptions around hell and Satan, highlighting the importance of present-moment consciousness and love. John Davis emphasizes the importance of living in the present and expressing love, referencing the teachings of Jeshua. He invites people to take control of their own narratives, suggesting that choosing a positive outlook on life is more fulfilling. John promotes his work through his website, johnofnew.com, and his YouTube channels, including “The Recovering Catholic.” Alex Ferrari praises Davis’s contributions and mentions their collaboration on an upcoming course available at Next Level Soul.
Timecodes:
0:00 – Episode Teaser
02:07 – Who is John Davis?
11:36 – Was Jesus a yogi?
13:51 – Is “Original Sin” fake?
15:15 – Did Paul invent salvation?
16:32 – Did Constantine rewrite faith?
20:21 – Why make Jesus a god?
22:40 – Why push Jesus’s story?
45:39 – Councils built Christianity?
46:10 – Did Paul hunt Christians?
47:07 – Paul’s letters = scripture?
49:14 – Were gospels censored?
53:52 – Rome invented the cross?
55:01 – Bible full of edits?
2:13:26 – John Davis’ final truth?
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You stand in the Vatican and you
look around. I remember when I did that, I just sat there, and
I just said, this has nothing to do with Jesus. Nothing. They are profiting from
their asset, and their asset is not the product. It’s the fear.
All of the writings that we have, be they gnostic, be they
biblical, be they scripture, be they Paul’s writings are
documented to be somewhere between 70 and 200 years after
the crucifixion, written by Greco Roman Christians with a
messianic agenda to teach, to teach this belief in that Jesus
was the Messiah. So then we come to now. Now Rome has taken
control of the Bible content, right? And we have 50% of the
New Testament is Luke and Paul, right? Luke being number one.
Luke never met Joshua in life. Luke was Paul’s disciple, right?
So 50% of the New Testament is all Paul writings. What Jeshua
spoke of is the power within the kingdom of heaven is within you.
Is your faith that heals you greater works than I’ve done you
will do he talks about You having the power within. Now, before we jump into this
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Thank you. I like to welcome back to the show returning
champion, John Davis, how you doing John? Alex, I’m so happy to be here.
I’m doing great, and I’m more excited. And even better now,
because I’m in the Next Level Soul Studios. to figure out a time for you to
get down here. We’ve talked about it quite a
bit. So we appreciate you coming,
man. And every time we get together, people love it. I love it. Yeah, I love it as well. I love
it as well. And for people who have not heard our other
conversations, which are fairly epic, they go deep down the
rabbit hole. Can you talk? Tell everybody a little bit about who
you are and and what brought you here quickly. Yeah, I’ll give you the Reader’s
Digest version For everybody who knows, whoever
knows what reader digest is, right, right? I just, I just aged myself.
Thank you very much. Thank you. So I was raised as a young
Catholic boy, and in the late 90s, I started having psychics
come out of the blue and simply tell me that I had a past life
where I walked with Jesus and being a young Catholic boy, I
denied it immediately, and I did my best not to have that
experience be something that I took into myself, because it was
just not in alignment with what I believed at The time. But as
time went on, there was it just kept happening. I had 19
different people walk up and tell me that I was had the
reincarnation life of John the Beloved. And I was like,
finally, I was like, done. I don’t want to have be the guy
who thinks he’s Napoleon. You know? You know, I want to be
that guy. And what happened was is I said, finally, I said, I
don’t want to hear any more psychics telling me this stuff
anymore. I said, you give me a direct sign, if that’s what you
want me to know. And a guy gave me a book called Edgar Cayce on
the millennium, and the book said John the Beloved will again
be named John. Edgar Cayce said that 1943 which prompted me to
get a past life regression. And in that past life regression, I
remembered meeting the guy that I call Joshua Ben Joseph and and
learning from him. And I remember the life of John the
Beloved. And so that’s the Reader’s Digest version, Yeah. And if you want to go
deeper down that rabbit hole, you go watch the other shows,
guys, because it’s we go really deep into that, and the trials
and tribulations, how you came out public, but you already a,
not a carny, but a A renny A renny because you used to do
renaissance fairs, I did a lot of special so you’re you’re an
artist, you’re out there, you know. And what I always find
funny is, friend of mine, Kyle, just did a skit I saw the other
day, which was hilarious about about past life regressions. And
like, I was Joan of Arc. And then he’s like, wow, out of
trillions of options, you happen to be the famous one, and the
other one’s like, Yes, I was Genghis Khan. I’m like, he’s
like, Oh, so you always hear things like that, yep. And it’s,
you know, it was like, I it was Cleopatra. I’m like, that was
probably the guy cleaning up the crap behind the horses of
Cleopatra. Is probably where I was. But it’s always fascinating
to me, people who have these past life aggression, and
they’re famous, so I I like the way that you’ve kind of, like,
really fought up against it for a while. And I fought against it for
several reasons. One, because my my mom had her master’s degree
in liturgy. I. Head of liturgical doctrine at our
Catholic Church. Oh, wow. So to fight against that kind of
Catholic upbringing is tough, but you know it’s so interesting
is now that I’ve done this for so long, I’ve met multiple
people who think they’re John, I’ve met multiple people who
think they’re Mary and Jesus and Judas, and I’ve met over 30
women who think they’re Mary Magdalene, obviously. And what
I’ve come to realize is we don’t know what reincarnation is. You
know what reincarnation may be is we all may just be tapping
into the oneness of God. Because if I was to say that they’re
wrong, then I would be the hypocrite. I’d be the one to say
because I’m saying the same thing, right? So I think it only
matter. It doesn’t matter who anybody was in a past life at
all, including myself. I think it only matters who you are in
the only moment you’re conscious, which is your present
moment. And so to me, it’s all about who are you now, not who
were you then? Yeah, it’s just, it’s kind of
like looking back on your own life right now, like you know
who you were at 20, right, right? Very different human
being than sitting in front of us right here. I know wasn’t
that amazing. It was everywhere. But you know what? This isn’t a
bald head. This is a solar panel for a love machine. There it is. You wear it well,
sir. Thank you. Thank you. Mine are still holding on tight, but,
but the line is wavering. Slow retreat, huh? No, it’s not. No, the back
retreated already. Oh, the front lines holding. Oh, I think the
front line will hold, if my father’s any indication. My comedy show, my partner
started to get a bald spot, and one day he used to tease me
about my hairline, and one day, I grabbed him, I spun him
around. I said, this show is brought to you by the letter O.
That’s funny. He got a good laugh out of it, But no, but looking back at who
we were, I mean, it’s, you know, trying to, I don’t know if I
don’t know about you, I’ve found, I found myself recently
going back to really looking at nostalgia, yeah, looking at the
80s and the 90s, which was my golden period. I was as a kid in
the 80s and in the 90s, I was in my 20s, essentially. And going
back, I’ve heard some people call it peak humanity. I don’t
believe that. But then it was before social media. Was before,
you know, easy access to, you know, pornography and all these
kind of things that just are everywhere now, and it’s
influenced humanity so so much the 90s was that time that it
was the right before, also the time the 90s. A lot of crap
happened the 90s, but financially in the US. Great
decade, yeah, great decade. It was, it was really, I found
myself looking back at that kind of stuff because I’m, I don’t
know, we’re all getting older man. Yeah, we look back with
nostalgia, but you know, the interesting thing about that is
the past is also not only where those triumphs were, but a lot
of your regrets and your and your struggles of life are
absolutely and you go back and you have to overcome that,
because that subconscious belief from that past experience can
permeate into your present if you allow it, right? And so it’s
a matter of breaking free of that cycle as well. Now, speaking of going back,
let’s go back a while. There’s this guy named Joshua,
troublemaker. Yeah, he was that. He was a troublemaker.
Everywhere he went. They kicked him out pretty quickly because
he just started challenging everybody, Everybody and Everybody, or in the town, if
you will. I wanted to go back because, you know, you and I are
both recovering Catholics, as we like to, we like to joke, and,
you know, the Catholic doctrine and the Bible and all of that.
So many people look at that blindly. They just look whatever
they were given Absolutely. They just believe it. They’re told to believe it, and
so they believe it and not to question, right? And not to
question. In fact, when they question, they are literally
cast out. I can’t tell you how many people have told me that
when they were kids, they were questioned and they were
punished for questioning. Isn’t that insane? Insanity?
Insanity like so what happened between the ages of 12 and 30?
What happened to those Yeah, where’d that clear come
right? Exactly. We don’t talk about that. Why
don’t we talk about that? That’s the most interesting time of
Jesus is like, And when you, when you talk to a
Hindu, they’ll tell you, Oh, yeah, he was Sri Isa, yes, who?
And that was the time he was there. They also will tell you
that after the crucifixion, he he collected his wife and came
back and raised children there Exactly. And that’s I’ve had
that many, many mystics have told me that as well, where the
resurrection wasn’t it wasn’t the way they portrayed it. He
did come back, but he actually came back in the physical form. Yeah. Well, you know, can I talk
about that please? Because I’ll tell you when all those psychics
were telling me about my past life, the second the second
session was with the first reader, who told me I had two,
two readings in a row with her, and it was the first psychic.
She was the first psychic I’ve ever had a reading from, ever,
because I was not into that, because I was a Catholic, right?
It’s a devil’s work, right, right? So the second session was
we actually did it on a beach in Cape and open state park in
Delaware, and I. She’s doing this thing. And all of a sudden
her demeanor changed. She began a full channeling on the beach,
and she says, Do you see me? And I knew she didn’t mean see her.
And I said, No, because I’m being defiant. Of course. She
says, close your eyes and see, which sounds so antithetical to
seeing, right? But I closed my eyes, and it was like my eyes
opened up somewhere else. It was like, as I closed my eyes, I was
having a full sensory awareness of being lying on my face in the
sand, and my hands were down in front of me, and I looked down
at my hands, and I could see things falling and hitting my
hands. And I looked up, and right above me was feet. And I
looked at the feet, and I looked upward, and Joshua was standing
there laughing at me, right? Well, I had no idea what that
moment was. Many years later, I had a full recollection of that
moment. It was after he died on the cross. It was him physically
standing in front of me. The reason I fell on my face is
because I was seeing him in the physical, and I thought he was
dead, Right as one would On your face, right? And he
laughed at me, because what are you doing right now, when you
look at the concept of the resurrection, if you study
Hinduism at all, you’re going to find story after story of gurus
who project their consciousness and manifest their body, yes,
and I think that’s what Joshua did. I think that he he
projected his consciousness elsewhere and then manifested
His body around, which is why, in the Bible, when, when the
ladies see him after the death of the first time, he says,
Don’t touch me. I’m not fully informed yet. Basically, he’s
still coming back into the And and so many people have said
that that Jesus was a master yogi. Hmm, that he was a master
yogi. He learned all the yogic in India, and he just evolved to
a full blown master, Yeah. See what’s interesting
about to me. I think Yeshua studied all of it. And I think
he, but I think he, he simplified it, he brought it
down into a more simple form. He’s the Bruce Lee. He is the
Bruce Lee. Is the Bruce Lee of spirituality, Jeet Kune Do. He is the away Because he takes a little bit of
the Kung Fu, karate, little bit of the judo, and put it all but
the simple, the things that worked Right, right! And what was so
interesting is, when I did had my regression, one of the things
I came out of my regression with was, this one simple phrase. It
was, it’s all so simple we have a hard time comprehending it.
And that simplicity itself becomes the struggle. Because
what Joshua spoke of is the power within the kingdom of
heaven is within you. Is your faith that heals you greater
works than I’ve done. You will do. He talks about you having
the power within but the hardest people that we Harden, not
hardest people, the hardest thing that people have today is
accepting their own divinity, right? Accepting that they are
they have that power because they’re told by religions. But
both old and new, even New Age ideologies are putting things
ahead of you to chase. It’s all about this one present moment
that you have being the moment that you have the ability to
create anything, because you are a reflection of your belief.
Your experience is a reflection of belief. Hinduism, the
Bhagavad Gita says, thought by thought, you forge your destiny,
therefore, to keep your mind on the positive rather than the
negative, is considered the austerity of the mind. It’s
about that concept of thought by thought, because when Moses
asked the burning bush what his name was, he said, I am that I
am not. I will be, that I will be or I was, that I was, I am,
that I am. Right. It’s the present moment belief and the
present moment declaration, but that declaration means that you
have to be divine enough to declare, and most people don’t
declare because they believe that they’re not worthy, which
is what Christianity, a lot of religions will tell you,
Original Sin. Original Sin, which is a third century
addition to the Bible. It’s not did that one? It was Augustine.
Augustine did that. Yeah, Augustine added that in the
third century, Paul added a bunch of junk too, which what he
added was a bunch of Pharisaic beliefs, which was not what
Yeshua taught at all. Well, really quickly, let’s go
back into that time period. So you know, Jeshua dies and then
resurrects either way, whichever way you whatever way you
believe. He finished. He finished at that time according
to where it was. So he was crucified. It was 300 years
later. It took hundreds of years, hundreds of years for his
teachings to kind of gain speed. And then there was the Gnostics.
And the Rosicrucians Rosicrucians came up through thing. It was the Gnostics, but
there might have been another group. There was a bunch of true
believers who really stuck with the original teachings. Well, let’s talk about that.
Okay, okay, so all of the writings that we have be they
gnostic, be they. A Biblical. Be they, scripture, be they. Paul’s
writings are documented to be somewhere between 70 and 200
years after the crucifixion, written by Greco Roman
Christians with a messianic agenda to teach, to teach this
belief in that Jesus was the Messiah I’m using, where Jesus
purposely, here, Who came up with that idea? It wasn’t until Paul, It was Paul. Paul someone to
create the divine, the divine aspect, Absolutely. He says, he says,
your your salvation is the death and resurrection of Jesus. And
so he basically took some messianic ideas. Now, over the
course of time, the various sects of Abraham and I’m gonna
say it’s an Abrahamic religion, Abrahamic religion, you know, be
it via Judaism, Christianity, you know, and other various
forms of Christianity, they all started saying they were the
right way, right? And, and the cat, the word Catholic is a
Greek word that means universal, means we are the only way, but
Right, right? So crazy, but he but what’s interesting about
that is, they retroactively went back and took the stories and
made them the universal church. So Peter, being the first Pope
of the Catholic Church, there was no Catholic Church. And
until, actually, officially, there wasn’t a Catholic church,
until the between the sixth and seventh century, really. Yeah, so we so what was
it between 300 and 400, 500 what was Christianity It was Christianity was
Christianity. It was Christianity.
Christianity, the Catholic Church. The Catholic church went
back and retroactively created this history to make them the
universal church. But isn’t the Catholic church
just Rome? Well, yeah, so, so, well, I love
that you brought that up. So cut Constantine. Constantine was,
was formalizing this church and and they had many councils nicer
being the first Nicaea, they started codifying what, what
Christianity was, not Catholicism, but Christianity.
And so to prove these stories were true, he sent his mother to
the Middle East to find all the holy sites. This is Constantine.
Constantine sent his mother. She went and she chose the Church of
the Holy Sepulcher, where that is. She chose Mount Sinai. She
chose all these places. And guess what else happened to her?
She became the first saint of the Catholic Church. Shocking,
yeah, Helena of Constantinople. Saint Helena of Constantinople.
That’s his mom, right? So he said, Mom. And mom went off and
did all that. It’s amazing. Now I it’s funny. I’m an impact,
very empathic kind of person. I feel things very clearly. And I,
I went to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, and I’m walking
through the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, and I’m not feeling a
darn thing, right? And my the guy that I was traveling with,
he, used to use me like a human barometer, because he know when
I start to feel something, there’s something about it. He
says, Could John Come with me? I want to take you somewhere. He
takes me out the Damascus Gate of Jerusalem, and we’re walking
down this and as I’m walking down this, I’m seeing like
military vehicles and guys with machine guns on and I start
getting nauseous, and I start weeping. I literally start
crying as I’m walking down this road, and we turn this corner,
and he says, let’s go in here. And a little sign. It says,
Garden Tomb. Do you know what the Garden Tomb is? So the
British archeological society says that the Church of the Holy
Sepulcher is wrong and that the actual crucifixion happened in
this other area, which is the the the Garden Tomb. They found
this tomb complex right next to a hillside that the locals
called Golgotha, which means skull Hill, right, which is
where the crucifixion happened. So as I’m getting closer and
closer this, not knowing where I’m going, I start weeping. I
start crying. I go into the place I see Golgotha, and I
collapse, because it was just the feeling of it was so
overwhelming. And then as we’re right next to Golgotha is the
tomb complex. Well, historically, Joseph of
Arimathea buried Jeshua in his personal tomb, which was right
next to Golgotha, where they found a wealthy man’s tomb right
next to Golgotha. And I’m walking down this staircase, and
for some reason I can’t turn my head to the right. I can’t look
that way. And I get to the bottom, and I finally glanced
over, and it was like this flood of memories of carrying Joshua’s
body, that, literally, the three of us were carrying his body.
And I don’t remember putting it actually in the tomb, but
there’s just memories of that carrying him. So I walked into
the tomb, and which many historians will tell you, Well,
it’s a medieval tomb. It’s this, it’s that. I don’t, I don’t care
what they say. The feeling of it for me was this was very much a
place where this happened. And I, I walked in, and it was very
interesting, because you have, you have three slabs where
bodies would have been laid out, and there’s a hole in the wall
that shines light on one. And there was a cross carved in the
wall Very Raiders of the Lost Arc. As spikes were coming out of the
wall. But what’s so interesting was, when you read the actual
historical text, when he was in the tomb, there was a light
shining in on him, and that one slap. Had this light shining in
through on him, which I thought was really interesting. I didn’t
even know that until later, when I when I found that, but so to
me, when I look at we don’t know a lot about the early story of
Yeshua, because the stories that we’re told nowadays are all
based in messianic agendas. They want to make him a deity, they
want to make him an idol. They want to make him something to
pray to. So let’s stop there for a second
explain to people why they wanted to create this divine
being that was as divine as all of us are, right, right, as he
said himself, right? That always everything I can do you can do
and more, right, exactly you know which goes complete like as
I’m saying it I feel guilty because I’m Catholic, I’m to
hell now I’m damned to hell now, because I said things like this,
this whole conversation, we’re damned to hell. I hate to tell
you, but We can talk about hell too,
because That’s fascinating. There’s a
show I’m watching right now about ghosts. Ever seen ghosts?
No, I haven’t. Oh, my God, it’s on CBS. It’s genius, really.
We’ll talk about, okay, but it’s not but there’s hell in that,
and it’s brilliantly done. My question is, why were they
creating an idol where Jesus or Yeshua? And we can talk about
Jesus and Yeshua in a minute as well, why they needed to create
a deity where, like a Buddha, who is followed by billions of
people around the world, was never, to my understanding,
never put up on the pedestal of a deity That would have been completely
against Buddha ideology, Correct! Well, it was also
against Jesus, Also against Krishnas and
against Muhammad’s as well. Yeah, they didn’t want to be
worshiped. They were there as examples of what can happen. So
can you explain to people why the powers that be decided to
use Jesus’s story? Because he was arguably a nobody when he
died, right? Right! No, yeah, he was crazy
itinerant preacher, right? Who was speaking against not only
religious authority, but but political authority. And there’s one mention in the
Roman archives of Jesus, one mention of like, and this dude
named Jesus was crucified, right? That’s it. That’s the
sentence, exactly, right. So he wasn’t like, and Jesus Christ
was like, none of that, And all of my regressive
memories. I didn’t hear one choir sing or any special light
should turn on when he walked into a room. No, that’s just us, sir, in our
own mind. But can you explain to people why the powers that be
decided to grab onto him and start pushing these ideas Well, it’s actually a really
fascinating historical story, because let me start with this
quote from the Bible, from Joshua, supposedly, right? And
everything in the Bible is hearsay, because it was all
written so much later anyway. But he said, Before Abraham,
was, I am. And people try to say he’s trying to say he was
existence, was God, and he was this Abraham at that time period
was, was the, the representation of the Jude Judaic religion.
When you said Abraham, you were talking about religion. So
before Abraham was I am, before there was a religion, I am, what
you have is you have a construct of people who are trying to
marry this religion, which is very much about an external God,
as opposed to God being within. And so it was their natural
model of the time to to pray without pray outside of
themselves and to look at idols, which is why the Old Testament
talks about, you know, false idols and all this stuff. But it
was the natural inclination of the time to actually look
outside of themselves for something divine, to say
something was divine within you was blasphemy and heresy. Of
course, you’re no one, because you’re no one, and God is
everything. Right? The struggle was that Yeshua came along and
said, No, the kingdom of heaven is within you. Ye are gods.
Greater works than I have done. You will do. It is your faith
that heals you. He kept saying all these things that were so
empowering to the individual, but that was completely against
the idea of the religion and the construct of the time render
unto Caesar, that which is Caesar’s right, that’s saying,
not only do you not need religious authority, you don’t
need political authority. He’s literally saying, you know, what
you think about this moment is the creative element of
everything, and you are the pinpoint of creation. And when
you look at it from that perspective, people couldn’t
grasp that concept. It was what we said earlier about people not
being able to accept their own divinity. They could not accept
their divinity in that time because they were told by not
only the Roman authority but the religious authority that they
were worthy and subjugated. And so they took that idea. Now,
once you have these power structures of religion and
social authority, what you find very quickly is that none of
those work without without power, without giving them the
power. And so they start manipulating the power, right?
They start creating more and more this power about original
sin, invented in the third century by Paul, by Augustine.
Augustine was original sin, and I. Yeah, he took that moment and
he he created original sin. Why do you have original sin? Because you got the chip stacked
against you with the second you walk into the playing field. Yep. So now let’s you already.
Oh, so you’re in debt. Original Sin leads you right into the
first sacrament to in Catholicism, of course, it does,
right? Yeah. But what is the first sacrament baptism Why are
you doing that? Because we’re going to save you from hell,
which is a Christian construct, right? And you have to become a
Catholic to be saved. So you get baptized into the Catholic
faith. So the first thing is, you have a sin so that we can
recruit you into the Catholic Church. Now stop there for a second.
Okay? Baptism, the original purpose of baptism, to my
understanding, was to get people away from animal sacrifices. And
Jesus went to John at the Baptist and John’s like, Hey
guys, you don’t need to be saved by you remember the whole thing
when he flipped up the cards, the cards inside the temple and
stuff. It was that big again. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
To my understanding was this big kind of like scam that they were
like, you need, the bigger the animal that you sacrifice, the
richer you were, right, right? And they were selling you the
animals and telling you, if you don’t do it, you go to hell. So
it was a great little hustle. Oh, yeah. And you know, what’s
interesting about baptism is there’s no place in the Bible
that Jesus does. Jeshua does a baptism. No, there’s not one,
right? But during that time period, the both the fair well,
the Pharisees, the citizens and the Essenes, all were doing
rituals. The other one, the Essenes, Essenes, they’re all
doing ritual bathing. Yeah, right. We go to Qumran, there’s
ritual bath chambers, right? And it’s all about this, this, this
ritual bathing to cleanse the spiritual soul. And that’s what
baptism was. Was this Judaic idea that you needed to cleanse
the soul. And Jeshua said, Before Abraham was I AM, before
there was a religion that you needed to bathe yourself. And
but once again, it becomes this ritual of baptism into this
faith, which now you’ve gone into the faith. So do we just
run the gambit of sacraments for a second so, and Then I’ll tell you my sacrament,
my my confirmation. Oh, good. Okay, it’s amazing.
Okay, so we have, now you’ve now you’ve become a Catholic. Before
you even had a chance to choose you’ve been baptized into the
face, absolutely right. You get to first communion, the next
sacrament, and they go, Hey, let’s make sure that this
Catholicism thing is fun. Let’s have a big party and throw some
ice cream and eat some cake and and do something cool in the
church, so that we all know that this is good for this little
kid. Then you get to the age of reason, which is about 13, which
in Judaism would be the bar mitzvah, the Bat Mitzvah. In
Catholicism, it’s confirmation. Not nearly as cool of a party,
not nearly as cool as a party. It’s a much cooler party. Yeah, you gotta you get a new
name, though, which is kind of cool, Which I’ll tell you about,
right? So, but right at the time where
you start to have cognitive reasoning, they come in and they
say, you have to confirm your faith in Catholicism. They
literally tell you, this is you have to confirm before you can
think too much. Confirm. Then you go into the next one, which
is marriage, the sacrament marriage. But there’s a, there’s
a, there’s a twin to the sacrament of marriage. There’s
the holy orders. I didn’t know what sound Yeah. So here’s what
happens. Is, if you have inclinations for the opposite
sex, you are supposed to get married and have children with
original sin to start that cycle again. If you don’t have
inclinations for the opposite sex, you have received the Holy
Orders, and you are to become a nun or a priest, lovely. So the
people who don’t have the inclination for the opposite sex
get funneled into the priesthood, and what do we have
now? All this, all these stories, Issues, issues, right? But you know, if God is love,
like the book of John says, which, by the way, is best darn
book in the Bible. Thank you. Wow, if God is love, then love
in any form can’t be wrong. So this idea that that they’re
told, if they don’t love the opposite sex, that they have to
be funneled into the is antithetical to the teachings of
Joshua all the way, because God is love. So, but this so now you
got that. Then after those two rituals, those two sacraments,
you have the last rites. Right now, the last rites became a
really big thing in the Middle Ages, oh yeah, because it was
all about saying, Hey, if you don’t give us your money, you’re
going to hell. And so on. The last people, they would funnel
money into the church, and that’s why the churches today
have gold everywhere. So talk about the Vatican. Yeah, it’s
crazy, really. So what you see here is starting with baptism.
It all it is, is a cycle of recruitment and a cycle of
profiteering. And Joshua said before Abraham was I AM, which
means none of this theology, which wasn’t actually in the
Bible, this is all Christian theology or Catholic theology.
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next chapter together. Him being the the golden calf,
as it were, golden, of course, Of course. So just, I’ve said
this story before, but it bears it. I had some repeating because I haven’t told
you this story in my confirmation story. So I’m in
Catholic Church, and I’m already, let’s say, off the
reservation. Have been for a minute, even though I was going
to Catholic school at the time, goosebumps talking about it,
because that is, that is what I was just like, this makes no
sense tonight. Even said, yeah, and adding the teenage stuff,
then it’s over. So I hear, like, my mom’s like, you have to be
confirmed. I’m like, what? What’s what? Yeah, you have to
get confirmed. You have to do this, and that you have to go to
class. I’m like, whatevs, okay, sure, let’s do it. And so we go
into it, and then during the time, like the nun turns to me,
she’s like, we all get to choose our names. I’m like, I’m sorry,
what? Yeah, you get to choose your name, and it’s announced at
the confirmation. I’m like, excellent. So then my friends
are like, you won’t do it. I’m like, Oh, I’m gonna do it. I was
in eighth grade, oh, you’re gonna do it. I’m like, so I
write my name, my my religious confirmation name, where the
priest has to recite it on front of the entire congregation. By
by, by Divine Law, you must read it. And I’m sitting there, and
the other one was like, and my friend before was like, Abraham,
blah, blah, blah, or, you know, and they chose these real
biblical names, and they get to me, and you see the priest, just
go, like, you could start seeing him, and he goes, Bartholomew
Humperdinck, Bartholomew and my, my whole class, start peeing
themselves justice and that. And you see the parents, his face is
like, and I’m dying, and it was just the greatest Bartholomew
Humperdinck. Oh, I just thought it was the most amazing name Yeshua felt like, yeah, that’s
what he taught and that’s, that’s what he was showing us
was available within you, and you took that even though you’re
it was a great joke, and I loved it, and thank you for sharing
cheers. It gave me a chance to have that feeling as well, right
here in the studio, because that moment of laughter was actually
the teaching. And Jeshua had a pretty good
sense of humor. Huge sense of humor. Most of,
most of my regressive memories of Jeshua are of laughter of him
and his wife. Well, that was, that was, and
we’ll talk about that. We’re gonna be here for hours. That
was the one thing that when we went over to Europe and we
started going to all these museums and stuff, it’s like,
every time you see Jesus, it’s just so depressing, oh yeah,
it’s constantly he’s bleeding, he’s on the crucifix, he’s He’s
like, he’s, uh. All the time. Every once in a while we’d see
like, oh, look, Jesus smiling. Yeah, it was such a rare thing.
They just kept using this iconography Iconography and idolatry. Yeah,
sure, the idol of Christianity has become the cadaver on the
wall. That’s all he is. Yeah, it’s a cadaver on the wall. And
why would you wear a cross representing his death and
horrific torture, as opposed to his laughter, his joy, his
feeling, right? I remember, like I said, lots of laughter, and I
remember him playing with children. Oh, I’m sure, because
children are, you know, coming here, flying here to come meet
you. I was in the airport, and I was sitting there at the gate,
and this woman walked by with a really surly look on her face,
and you can just see she was in a bad mood. And right as she
gets by me, I see her spot, a little girl who’s just cute as
can be, and and I watched this surly person break into a smile,
and I’m like, that’s that’s so beautiful, because, you know, in
the Bible it says you must become as a child to enter the
kingdom of heaven. Children don’t have a past to live into
or express from. So they are just the purest essence of what
God is. It’s closer to, yeah, the source
than we are. Yeah, just like, just like
animals, pet, you know, puppies and kit kittens. You know, we
get giggly, empathic people are usually surround themselves as
animals because they feel the unconditional love as opposed to
the conditions they feel from others. But this woman saw this
little girl, she instantly fell into this experience of this
little girl. But then she passed her and she went back to her
surliness, and her face went back to being a scowl and a
little furrow between her eyebrows, and it was so
interesting to me, because the purity of that moment was lost
on her, because this is what I call being a reaction zero
instead of an action hero, right? You’re having this
experience of life where you’re processing from the stimulus of
your past experience, and then you see one moment that’s just
pure and present, and you don’t even realize you’re doing it,
you’re having that experience. And you know, Jeshua was all
about the laughter, because that was where you found that pure
experience of that little girl. You know, that pure experience?
And you know, I did a painting a while back. It’s called Jeshua
and ishti. And ishti. It’s also called man and wife. There’s two
different titles on it, but it was the memory of him having his
wife, Amari, and he called her ishti In one of my regressions.
And the only reason I refer to his wife is because the word
ishti in Hebrew means wife. So he referred to his wife, but the
painting I did was the two of them laughing, because I did not
want to have that somber look The cadaver on the wall, The cadaver on the wall. It’s
the idol of the cadaver on the wall. And to me, when I look at
Joshua, I think of this man who laughed, who expressed, who
loved. He came to the Samaritan woman at the well, and he didn’t
judge her for being a Samaritan, which would have happened from a
Jewish man. He didn’t judge her for being a woman, which would
have happened coming from a Jewish man. He didn’t, in any
way, shape or form, care that he was traveling on the Sabbath,
which is against Judaic law, right? And then he told her
everything she ever did, which is basically a psychic reading,
which is against Leviticus, right? He did everything
opposite of what they said he could do, because he was loving
that person no matter what they were, who they were, what they
who they loved, anything. He was just being the pure love in that
moment. And that’s what got expressed. This woman got so
excited. She ran around town, saying, Come see the man who
told me everything I ever did. She literally had a feeling of
what Pure Love was, you know what? In my very first
regression, I’m walking towards the crowd where he was, and I
could feel his presence. I could feel and you hear it in my
regression. If you go, if you anybody’s watching this, you go
to my channel, there’s a video called two moments from my
regression on there. One of them is the moment I met Yeshua, and
the moment I crossed over when he touched me. And then there’s
the moment of witnessing him on on the cross, witnessing
crucified. And I’m going to warn any of you who watched that
video that that if you watch that video, the second part of
it, you’re going to hear me screaming and hear me crying and
going through the watching my friend being crucified. But the
first part of feeling his presence as you came up, the
more fearless you are, the more in the teachings of Jeshua you
are, in the way you are, because the Buddha says the secret to
enlightenment is the eradication of fear. And the Sufi say the
veil between you and God is your fear, and your life is the
struggle against the veil, and you can overcome the veil. Well,
that’s what Joshua did. He just lived President fearless at all
times, and you could feel it from this, from him, and that’s
what that child did in the airport with that little girl.
But I mean that girl did with with that woman, she felt the
presence. So I mentioned before that Rome
didn’t fall it just turned into the. Yeah, more. And I said this
before. I’ll say it again when I was at the Vatican, first time
in my life I just it, just for it. Maybe I’m dense, but I’d
never put together Roman Catholic church that was from
Rome. I don’t know why I never connected Rome with the Roman
Catholic Church. I get it because I grew up with
an Irish mother, so we were the Irish Church, the Irish
Catholic. Yeah, so I just never connected
Roman Catholic. And then, as I’ve spoken to many Rome experts
and mystics and other people in that in the historical space,
how Rome all the money that Rome just that just kind of rolled it
over into the IRA. That is, yeah, the Roth IRA Created the Vatican City for all
kinds of political tax reasons. Yeah, again, they’re the
smallest, they’re the smallest, smallest, smallest country in
the world. And complete power, complete power. They run Italy.
Still, let me It’s insane. Can I tell you a story? This is
going back to my when I was an altar boy, You got out alive. I got out alive, and I wasn’t
even, never mind, we’ll leave that story. But my mom, of
course, with her master’s degree in liturgy, was we were very,
very Catholic, and as an altar boy, you know, I had to toe the
line. Well, my mom was also the organist and the choir director
at church, so she played the organ for all of the masses on
the weekends. So I was going to be the the altar boy at the nine
o’clock Mass on Sunday morning. And I woke up late and, oh no, I
read, oh, I ran upstairs, and I wolfed down a bowl of Cheerios,
and I ran out the back of my house. I threw my bike over the
back fence because that was the fastest way to get to the
church. And I pedaled my butt off all the way to the church,
and got to the church, and I walked on into the back, and the
priest looked at me over his glasses on a disapprovingly and
I was the only one. There was three otter boards there that
day, and I was the only one who knew how to set everything up.
So they’re all waiting for you. They’re all waiting for me. I
run in and I start doing everything. Start getting
everything up. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Get
stressed out because I’m late. I know I’m in trouble. The priest
just gave me, and the priest was my mom’s best friend, of course,
right? So I’m like, oh, stressed out. They take us around to the
back. We process in from the back. I’m carrying the cross,
right? And we walk all the way the front. We sit down, start
during the service. So then my brother does what my brother was
on the altar, doing the readings. He does the reading,
does the second reading. Then comes time for the sermon,
right? And you have to stand for the sermon. Yes, I know. So I’m
standing I’m standing there on the altar, and the lights are
shining down on me, and I start to sweat, and I start to get
this water filming in the back of my mouth, and I start to feel
my Cheerios start to erupt. And I’m standing there and I’m like,
trying not to, not to vomit on the altar, and I’m sitting there
and I and it’s getting worse and worse and worse and worse, and I
know I’m not, I can’t puke on the altar. That’s terrible. It’s
a horrible thing to have happen. You’re gonna go to hell. If that
happens, like, straight on through, you’re going to hell,
right? And so what did I do? I felt I started to throw up, and
I caught the upcoming attraction in my hands, and I’m holding
this in my hands, and now I’m standing on the altar with a
handful of Cheerios, okay, right? And I’m looking around.
I’m like, what do i Anyone seen? Oh, yeah, everyone saw. Oh,
everyone’s seen that you threw up in your hand. Everyone saw,
okay? And I’m like, I’m like, What do I do with this? And I
look back and the door was behind me, so I was able to back
through into the sacristy, throw this. I’m like, 13, I know,
right? I throw that out. And I lost the rest of my my lunch,
breakfast out into the bushes. Got all cleaned up. Mass ended.
Oh geez, wow, man, this is a heck of a day. Mass ended.
Priest came back, read me the raft of of litany of that should
not have eaten one hour before Mass. Should not have been late
for mass today. Started laying all that out to me right now,
opposed to the empathy, the empathy so, so get this. So here
my brother witnesses this, on this, on the he’s sitting there
on the on the altar, and this woman gets up in the from the
first row, first pew, walks up to him. She says, Excuse me, but
that young man over there is very sick, and he you need to
help him. And my brother looked over just in time to watch me
catch it right. And he’s like, right. All that happens. No one
comes to help me. I go out through the back. My brother
gets up and goes over after the sermon is done, the priest sits
for a reflective silence. Of course, my brother sits next to
him, and he whispers, he says, John just threw up. And the
priest says, where? He says, in his hand. And the priest said,
Good, right now I don’t blame my brother or the priest for acting
that way, because that was. A doctrine that they were, they
were indoctrinated into. But God showed up that day. God showed
up when she said that young man is sick because she was the one
doing the loving thing. She was the one Yeshua thing. Yeah, she
does Yeshua thing. She was being the way, the truth and the life
of love. And so when I look at that story now, I don’t blame my
brother, I don’t blame the police. I don’t blame the
church. I i Look at that beautiful woman who stood up and
said that young man is sick and he needs our love. Wow. So that,
to me, is just the the representation of what Jeshua
meant, Beautiful man. That was a great
story. That’s a very, very good, very graphic, but I can bring up puking up here. Yes, very nice that you snuck
that in. So, so going back to Rome, turning into the Catholic
Church. So Yeshua dies, yes. And then we’re talking about 300
years plus for the council, Council of nice 325, something
like that, right? And that’s Constantine. Constantine who
decided, hey, we need to grab power, because there’s too many
Christians running around. Yep. And we’re in it was from, it
went from throwing the Christians to the lions to Now,
if you’re not Christian, you’ll get thrown to the lions, right? And one of the people who was
throwing the Christians to the lions was Paul. We’re gonna get to senior,
senior Paul in a minute. Senior Paul, senior Paul in a minute.
Paulo, Paulo in a minute. So Constantine gets console
consultancy, and they bring every story together that’s
that’s known at the time, and they start to create
Christianity as we know it, right, right? This is, and I’m
saying this for people who have not heard this before, because
it blew my mind when I first heard Yeah, and I’m like, so
wait a minute. It was basically by committee, literally by
committee. So that books in, that books out. Oh, I don’t like
that reincarnation thing. Let’s pull that out. What’s the Book
of Enoch? Yeah, let’s not gonna, oh, Mary Magdalene is the wife.
We can’t have that. Let’s turn her into a whore, yeah? Because
that’s what that which is not biblical at all, which we have
to we could do that because we can’t have women with too much
power Because of Paul Right! So then, so when did Paul
insert himself? What year? Well, it’s, it’s very
interesting, because Paul’s writings are the ones who are.
They’re not actually scriptures. They’re letters, right? But we
call them scriptures now. He’s not an apostle. Can we let
everybody know Paul is not steal from Peter to pay Paul. That
whole thing. Apparently, Peter Not a fan. The Peter not a fan. Well, let’s
talk about that for a second, because you’re talking about
Rome. You know, in the Gnostic text, it says the disciples say
to Joshua, who do we go to when you’re gone? And in the Gnostic
text, Yeshua says, go to my brother James. He doesn’t say
Peter, right. Never says Peter, right? But what happens is, at
the crucifixion, Joshua Jeshua goes to the cross knowing he’s
dying, but he also knows that he has shared a truth, and that if
you can spread that truth, and people start to believe in that
truth, then what will happen is it’ll grow right? So what does
he do? He says, Peter, you go to Rome. John, you go to Turkey.
James, you stay here. He took the information and he spread it
out, got it wide. Well, Peter went to Rome. For Peter to be
the first Pope of the Christian church. He has to be the next
one, the rock upon which we will build this church. So Rome
grabbed a hold of Peter and said he is our first pope, which was
a retroactive addition, and they just started moving the seed of
power of Christianity to Rome itself, because that’s where,
that’s where it was. Now this all happened much later. Nicaea
was the beginning of the of the doctrines being pulled together.
The people who were at Nicaea after Nicaea were the ones who
compiled the books, but they got doctrine to start creating a
book. They create the Codex Sinaiticus. They create several
other Codex Vaticanus, and all these various versions. There’s
multiple versions of the original. And we’ll talk about King James
in a minute. Yeah, yeah. I have a lot to say
about him, but, but this idea of Nicaea being the one place where
they chose the books, it was the one where they that’s where they
started choosing books. That’s where they started the process
of creating a Bible. There was a book of by Mary
Magdalene. There was a gospel of Mary Magdalene. There was a
gospel of the Judas. Yeah, there was a ton of gospels that just
got Pushed out because they didn’t
match various doctrines, and they didn’t match the Abrahamic
idea of an external God that we must be subjugated to, because
the Jesuit teachings were not about being subjugated to a God.
They were about the power within. And so by starting to
codify this into a group. Now Paul was a very interesting
critter, shall we say? Senior Pablo. Pablo. I like Pablo
better in palace. He, he never met Joshua in life, right? He
had a vision on the way to on the road to Damascus,
supposedly, he declared himself to be the apostle to the
Gentiles. He declared himself, declared himself to be the
apostles and Gentile. The Gnostic gospel of James calls
him the liar. Literally calls him the liar. And prior to his
vision, he was traveling the country as a Pharisee punishing
Christians for being Christian, right? So this was, he was this
guy didn’t have a good track record. One of the things that
said about him in the Gnostic scriptures is that he was a,
kind of like a chameleon. He would change his story for
whoever he was talking politician. Yeah, it was a
politician, exactly. He ended up living with Governor, Governor
Felix, a Roman governor for many, many years. He was the
only one who was the actual Roman citizen. So he was very
much tied into Rome and its authority during that time. And
then when Rome starts to lean into the teachings and the right
and what yours is, Paul, well, this was supposedly he,
supposedly he had his vision within a couple years of of the
crucifixion. Oh, but the writings don’t come around until
50 to 70 years later, Right! And they’re not
incorporated into the doctrine until the 300 so, way past Paul, Way past Paul well, so then we
come to now. Now Rome has taken control of the Bible content,
right? And we have the 50% of the New Testament is Luke and
Paul, right? Luke being number one. Luke never met Joshua in
life. Luke was Paul’s disciple, right? So 50% of the New
Testament is all Paul writings. Then there’s these letters to
Timothy and all that stuff. Timothy was Paul’s disciples. So
these are letters from Paul to Timothy. So it’s all Paul
everything’s Paul the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. None of
them actually had the names Matthew Mark, Luke or John
attributed them until much later. All of them were written
anonymously, and so and so, Which we could estimate that it
could have been all Paul or Paul It could totally have been Paul.
But they also Scott scholars agree that Matthew, Mark, Luke
and John, especially, Matthew Mark and Luke are coming from
the same source text, because they’re using the same
terminologies, the same thing. So so they know that they’re
probably coming from this other text, and then breaking them out
into these three different doctrines, John being the most
esotericist, they’re not going to find a lot of correlation
with that one. But it also was written anonymously. You know,
he never says John. He says that the the disciple that Jesus
loved is what he’s referred to himself. So when you look at the
texts that were that were actually chosen, Matthew Mark
and Luke lean into the virgin birth, which was not nothing
Joshua ever said happened, yeah, the whole virgin birth, virgin
birth thing. And then you look at the Bible that the Roman
Catholic Church pushes out. Now they put out the red letter
versions. These are the things that Jesus said, right? And I
say every time I talk Rhodes and I talk, I say Jesus as opposed
to Joshua, because it’s not, I don’t think it’s the same
person. I think it’s very different. It’s a caricature.
But what I like about this, this construct of these red letter
versions, is that there’s huge portions of these red letter
versions that supposedly happened when nobody else was
around but Joshua. So who wrote it down? Who actually took it
and wrote it down? Because Yeshua never did right? When he
battled with the devil in for 40 days and nights, that whole
story, no one was there except for him and the devil,
supposedly right. So, where do Are you saying the devil wrote
it? He’s the only other guy. We’ll get into the devil too.
Boy, I go that down that route these because that’s actually
historically fascinating. Oh, no, we’ll get there. Okay,
so anyway, we will get there. So, so the so the Rome took this
whole thing and said, Look, we have all these rules, doctrines
that subjugate people to our authority that we have. We have
these new ideas that that, that we have this image of the Cross,
which is really ridiculous, that they chose that because the
cross was a Roman punishment, yes. So why would they choose
that? You know, and and then that what they did was they just
started saying, these are what you have to believe, and these
have to believes. And the reason I say, have to believe. I had a
guy one time, and I asked him very specifically this question,
very devout Catholic. And I said to him, I said, So can I ask you
question? I said, the books that didn’t make it into the Bible,
are they just as valid as the ones that did? And he says, no,
no. I said, why not? He says, because I have to believe that
God’s hand was in the choosing, but that’s ridiculous, but he
has to believe who says he has to the church, right? The church
is the one who says he has to, Yeah, people believe that it
fell down from the sky. Yeah? Leather bound, and everything
ready to go like that. That’s not the case. And what’s really interesting is
the Codex Sinaiticus, when they founded a saint Catherine’s
monastery in Egypt, every page had edits, and not just for
grammar, for contact, content, context. It’s one of those books that
it’s one of those books that we could talk about the old in a
minute, but the the New Testament. It’s, it’s just this
jam packed book of stories, second hand, third hand, fourth
hand, stories, yeah, some made up. Some not made up. Yeah, it’s
hearsay, you know, like you said, Jesus was the only one in
the who wrote this story. And you know, who wrote this he’s The Bible literally says that
Peter and John were illiterate. Well, that doesn’t help. So how
did John write that? And how? The thing is also that,
you know, from my understanding, yes, one never wrote anything
down. He didn’t have a doctrine, right? He didn’t write that any
stuff. In fact, he was anti doctrine, right? He was anti
dogma. He’s anti all that, yeah. But then when you, when you come
up to a more recent master like Yogananda, he wrote The
Autobiography of a Yogi right? You know, that’s his words,
right? That’s not 400 other people trying to grab stories of
his life, putting it together. I would agree with you, yeah. I
live in this space, okay, yeah, And, you know, I Jeshua came.
Jeshua was a man who found this divinity, as was Yogananda, as
everybody on this wall, you know Swami Narayan, who I’m just a
big fan of, when you, when you and Swami Ariane was also very
recent in historical context. Yes, you know the vaca num root
was their interview of of him in real time. But what I find
interesting is that is that finding the divinity is found in
all of these religions and ideas, but all of them are
talking about, there is no doctrine, there is no dogma. And
what’s happening now, I think, personally, and I would never
judge anybody for their beliefs, but I think a lot of the New Age
ideologies are just creating new doctrines and yeah, I’m here all the time in a
new age space. And the 60s was when the New Age Movement
arguably started. That’s when, when it came to a
table. The word new age comes from out of the Theosophical
Society of the early 1900s Right! The theological, I guess
you’re right. The theological, uh, philosophical, theosophical,
I could never, yeah, I have that same problem. Society did start. They came up
with the concept of the Ascended Master. They came up with a lot
of things, But they they reintroduced
tarot, Right! They really were the
source of the New Age Movement. Yeah, you’re absolutely right.
Thank you for correcting me. But the 60s is when they a lot of pH
Aquarius, yeah, all this kind of stuff started coming out. Great,
great song, and it started to kind of bubble up and and then,
you know, your sign and the Zodiac and all this stuff been
around forever, but it really started to public get up there.
But as I’ve noticed throughout the decades, 60s, 70s, 80s, I’ve
been, I’ve been into this stuff since I was a kid, right? I’ve
been studying this stuff. You know, all the classic guys,
classic in my world, at least, whether Deepak, Wayne Dyer, I
studied it all, even Tony Robbins, that spiritual. But it
was, you know what I mean, but there’s a spiritual element to
him. There’s no question. I would love to have a spiritual
conversation with Tony Robbins one day. I think that would be
amazing. I’d like to talk to Jim Carrey myself. Jim’s on my list.
Jim’s so on my list. I would love to talk to Jim and Matthew
McConaughey. So in the New Age world, I’ve kind of seen it
start to add its own dogmas into it, like you can’t do this. You
can’t so I get it from all angles. I get it from the
dogmatic religions and people who are dogmatic about their
belief system. And then I also have of their religious belief
systems. But then I’m also, I also get hit with comments from
people who are dogmatic in the new age, oh, absolutely in all
aspects. So you can’t say this, you can’t do this, you can’t do
this. And the thing that I find fascinating about the whole
picture is that everyone’s ego has to say that we are the only
way right where I’m always lead all roads leap to Rome. Sorry,
all roads lead to the same destination. Yeah, you can’t
tell me that a billion Buddhists, a billion Hindus and
a billion Catholics are all the only way, Right, right! Well, you know, I
love, I love that, that that concept, because I often say
that a religion is like being on a train track. Yeah, you will
only see out the window of the track they they chose to put you
on. Yeah, right. But when you get above and you realize
they’re all on a track, on attracting to the same
destination, is when you start to realize that there is beauty
in all of it. It’s just different flavors of the same
message, and the more you it’s funny, because I did a study
many years ago, back in the in the early 2000 where I just
started reading all of these ancient texts, the Bible, the
Torah, the Quran, by the. And all of it. But I did something
really interesting. I read it twice. Read them all twice. The
first time I read it with what I call the love goggles on, and I
read the parts that were just lovely when I and I started
seeing all of the hater or the division, like in the Old
Testament, you know, this town wiped out that town, and God was
with his army that was all fear based. So I, I just stayed with
the love. What does it read? The loving parts? I read the loving
parts of all of them. They all say the same thing, yes. Then
you put the fear goggles on and you start reading from fear
aspect. They all say something different. The fear is where the
dogma lies. The fears fear. Dogma is fear. Dogma is fear.
And the New Age movements are leaning into various dogmas as
well, and one of the dogmas that they’re leaning into right now
is vegetarianism. And they you know, you have to be a
vegetarian to be spiritual. You know, there, there is no reason
to be a vegetarian, or unless you want to be. It’s a choice.
You know, when you look at another, get out of spirituality
for a slight second and bring it back to it. Einstein said that
everything we’re looking at in this room is atomic energy in
motion, correct? Over 90% of it is empty space, and the other 5%
is the energy in motion. So when we look at this wall of all
these beautiful statues and things here, and that’s all made
of atoms, right, but the air between us is atoms, and so is
our eyes. So every you know this concept that we are one with God
comes back to this idea that this energy around us is God. We
are in the in the image of God. When you go back and you look at
all of these texts from these perspectives, and you and you
come at it from the perspective that God is love and that fear
can be overcome, like the Buddha said, what you find very quickly
is that you know the world is made of love, made of this
energy, and the fog of fear hides the room from us. But what
Jeshua told you to do was to look down and realize your hand
was on the knob of the fog machine, and you could turn it
up, or you could turn it down, right? And that idea of fear. So
if you talk about the teachings of Joshua, fear itself is only
an emotional reaction to the present moment, but it’s always
an emotional reaction to your past experience or an
expectation of something negative, absolutely. So all,
all it really is, is letting go of the reaction in the moment,
reaction to fear, which is the fight or flight response. We
suck a bunch of air into our lungs, and we hold it to fight
or fight in a flight or fight, but when we allow ourselves to
simply exhale and come back to that natural state, you know
when, when you’re outside on a cloudy day, the sun’s still up
there? Yes, if the clouds obscure the view the sun is, is
God or the universe? Night? At night, the sun is still up? Yes,
exactly. It’s always there, right? In fact, the reason we
see a mood is because the sun shining on it, right, right. So
it comes down to fake news, sir. But go ahead, yeah, I know what
was I thinking. There is no moon. Obviously a
government can And this is completely flat. Come on, all the comments are
going to come in. Sorry, sorry about the Earth is flat.
Obviously, when I go outside, it looks straight. Anyway, anyway. But so, so, you
know, Rome took these ideas of self empowerment and self
divinity, and said, Well, I don’t have any Rome said, I
don’t have any power. If they have divine power within
themselves, right? That’s a problem. So they have to create
the asset of fear, the fear of not getting to heaven, the fear
of burning in hell, the fear of of being ostracized by your
community. I can’t tell you how many, how many Mormons I’ve met
my life who are just beautiful, lovely people. Yes, they agreed.
But whenever you hear the story of them trying to leave that
church, oh no, it’s a terrible many on the show. It’s a
horrible, horrible thing, right? That, that idea that you that it
is the only way, and our train is the only one you’re allowed
to ride and look out the window of, right? That that has created
the division in the world when the when the Christians said
that Joshua was the only way they said the rest of the world
was wrong, but, but Joshua never said that, never, he never said
that. And only 30% of the people in the world are Christian, the
other 70% are all wrong. I was saying that when I was a
kid. It’s crazy in Catholic school. So wait a minute, I
don’t even know what Buddhism is at the time, right? I’m like,
I’ve heard of this Buddhist thing, and there’s, like, at
least a billion, at least, if not more, And Hindu, And then Hindus and
Confucianism. And, you know, but I, you know,
I think that we are, that we are moving into a more beautiful
world because of of the processes we’ve been going
through. Yeah, when you look at the Abrahamic line, you’ve got
Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and then you have behind, what’s
behind, behind comes out of Iran, right? And then what’s
checked. Is that so Judaism, when you read the Torah, there’s
all these horrific stories of vengeance. And is that basically
the Old Testament? Yeah, is it exact? It’s close. It’s been
altered because of oceanity. And a lot of Christianity because of
the concept of creating the prophecy of Jesus, they go back
and retroactively change the Old Testament to prove it was him Before you continue. Would you
agree that those two books have nothing to do with nothing with
each other whatsoever, and the God that Jesus talks about has
nothing to do In the Old Testament says God is
vengeful and jealous, and the New Testament says God is love. So that how this like, what? Go
ahead, yeah. So, yeah, exactly. What is the
best way to answer that? Or say so? So you look at Judaism, it’s
got all this war and anger and hate and division. Then you come
into Christianity, and they say God is love and he compassionate
and the shepherd and all this stuff. Then you so, so and, but
they say he is the only way, right then the next in the
Abrahamic line is Islam, and Islam says that Jeshua was a
prophet and that Muhammad is the next Prophet and the last
prophet. So he is the only way now. So now they’ve created
these two divisions, and they couldn’t ignore Yeshua. They
couldn’t ignore him. And they said, and they said, and they
believe he’s going to return, and they believe he’s going to
do everything said about him. And the Islam actually says that
both Jews, Christians, with Islam, they’re all going to
heaven because they’re all praying to the same God. They
actually say that right then you get into the Baha’i Faith, and
by faith, to me, is fascinating because Bahai believes that
Joshua was a prophet. Muhammad was a prophet, but Buddha was a
prophet, and Krishna was a prophet. And it goes through all
of these other texts saying that, but they believe bahala is
the Prophet after Muhammad, bahala the holy figure of the
Baha’i Faith, right? He’s just another prophet. He’s just the next Prophet in
line, right? But they what’s interesting to me, when I look
at this from the from the 3000 mile back perspective, you’ve
got this really hateful, vengeful sort of beginning, and
this inclusive, loving, beautiful experience. Now, it
still has its dogma, it still has all its issues, And is he the only one as well?
You know? You know, I don’t think so. At the end, I because, I because they do
offer that Buddha and all these other Are all prophets, that
there’s lots of Prophets, right? So I think it’s a much more
inclusive ideology, but there’s still dogma. Zoroastrian Another, another prophet, yeah. Zoar, right. So when you look,
when you look at the this, this, this shift, you’re seeing this
very fear based, too much more loving at the other end of the
Abrahamic line, you know, I think that the world is is
slowly becoming into a more beautiful place. We’re becoming
more conscious. It’s more much more conscious. But when you
turn a ship at sea, a cargo ship full of stuff at sea, you turn
the wheel, and it takes miles for that front end to come
around, right? We’re not in a speed boat. But well, here’s the
cool thing. We turned the wheel a long time ago, and we can
prove right now that the We Are Coming to a more lovely where I
met your beautiful, beautiful daughter out here earlier.
Lovely, beautiful, lovely girl, very clear, very open, very,
very honest. You could just see within her, she was like, I’m
going to talk to whoever I want to talk to, and she’s just going
to be here. And she was lovely, right? Thank you. She probably
wasn’t in any way shape or form racist, homophobic, right?
Because none of the kids coming up are my son’s 22 years old. He
from the time he was in in kindergarten coming up, none of
his class, no racism, no homophobia, no gender bias that
they’re they’re all just They’re they’re definitely made
of different stuff than Because we turned the ship a
long time ago, and they’re the product of what we’ve told them And their and their product is
going to be Amazing. It’s amazing, right? But it’s a slow process, and
we’re going through And within that construct of
their belief there is no external power that can grab it
and take it, which is what Rome did, And that’s why there’s so much
struggle right now. That’s why they’re so all these
institutions, government institutions, medical, media,
yeah, all of it is starting to And you notice when you watch
it, they’re all calling each crumble. other names and all this stuff,
right? Well, that’s the definition of slander. Socrates
said, when the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the
loser, right? When the debate is lost. They know they’re losing
that’s why they’re getting loud. That’s why they’re calling
names, because they have nothing actually logical to say against
love, because love is logical, right? We all want to be loved
in some form. We all want to live in a loving world, and
without the constructs and confines of of the subjugation
of a church or. Or even a new age ideology, right? I was
supposed to speak at another event soon, and everything was
all planned. We were all working towards it, and I got an email a
couple days ago that said, Oh, I’m sorry. We can’t have you
speak because you won’t promote vegetarianism and you won’t
promote Jesus being in a scene. And they literally told me I was
no longer invited to their program because I wasn’t going
to teach their doctrines and dogmas. And I was like, okay. My
answer to them was, okay, they’re allowed to believe what
they believe. John, I’ve been vegetarian for
13 years. Yeah, vegan. Vegetarian more. I loosened up.
I’m more vegetarian than anything. What did we tell you
when my wife and I were telling you when you go to, when you if
you want to eat some really good meat? Yeah, you told me where to
go. You got to go to Salt Lick, right, right? And that’s great
Texas barbecue, right? I’m not, I promise you, when I started
being a vegan, oh, I was a bad vegan, yeah, oh, I’d be like,
you need to change. You become a prophet of like, you know, you I
must convert everyone, right? Because my ego was like, this is
the way. It was fascinating to see to life. Through my years, I
started really like, I can’t this is not my place, right?
They have a path to walk. I have a path to walk Exactly. It is
just my choice to do so, and it’s your choice. My next door neighbors, they’re
in their 80s, they’re completely plant based. Yeah, they thrive.
Sure, I was a vegan for two years. I was never sicker,
weaker or colder, And for everybody is different.
I think everybody’s everyone has different setups to get down to
that road. But right now, a lot of a lot of
the New Age gurus are all pushing this, this vegan idea,
as a dogma. You have to be this. I’ve met so many mystical and
spiritual people. I had a guru in the other day, as one does. And he’s an average Thursday, An average Thursday. Here next
little soul, and he is, he is a walking master. He is a
Yogananda esque style. I could feel his energy. It was a, it
was a beautiful situation. Yeah, I’m not sure if he is
vegetarian. I’m not, I’m not sure. I’m not sure if he is or
if he isn’t. I think he was, we were talking about barbecue
because we’re Texas, but it was, it was interesting. It’s just an
and you’re using this is an example of dogma in that it’s
the human ego that needs to be right, right? Like, I am the
most spiritualist. I’m the most spiritual, right, right, right?
I’m the most spiritual me. You can’t be. I’m the most humble,
right? I’m the humblest of the humble. Like, that’s, that’s the
ego. Yeah, behind it. And, you know, you know, it’s
interesting about the ego. I think, I think that word has
gotten a bum rap. I agree we need the ego. Well, the ego
scientifically, when you look at the actual studies of philosophy
and psychology, the ego only means that you’re aware of your
individual self. That’s all it means. But within that construct
of the awareness for your individual self, you have threat
assessment. You know what is going to hurt my individual
self, what is going to harm my individual self, and so
individual self? And so we come from this process of defending
ourself prior to events, out of fear and anxiety and stress. But
you know when, when we when my son was six, he’s now 22 like I
said, he said, Daddy, God told me he’s in everything and
everyone, and we control the god part inside of us. And I was
like, wow, there’s my little Yoda, right? He, he said
something so profound. And then later on, in Hinduism, I
discovered the concept of the God consciousness being the sit,
and we are the sit, sat key, the individual sparks of
consciousness, sure, but that idea that that this person over
here who’s eating something different than me isn’t equal to
me, is antithetical to everything Joshua taught and
everything that Yogananda taught, and everything, and I’m
sure Yogananda was vegetarian. He was, to my understanding, he
was, yeah, yeah, because I think he was always but that’s
cultural too. Yeah. It’s called natural thing.
But, you know, the thing is, I have met beautiful people in all
religions and ideologies, and it’s, it’s not about the method,
the modality, the doctrines, dogmas or diets. It’s about to
love Absolutely. Are you loving? Are you compassionate? Are you
in the moment expressing love to some? Are you walking up to that
lady who’s having a hard time getting up in the curb, and are
you helping on the curb? That is the expression of God in the
world? Is to is to give love in that moment, coming here today.
I got off the exit off of Route 183 and there was a deaf man who
was who had a sign up begging for money. I rolled down the
window and handed him $50 now people are gonna say, well, he’s
gonna try to drink that order. I don’t care what he does with it.
I want him to have the experience of someone giving him
$50 as opposed to 10 cents. I wanted them to have the
experience of love and compassion in the now. And you
know, it doesn’t matter what they do with it. It’s a matter
of looking them in the eye and saying, This is for you, and I
hope you’re better. You know that is delivering love, that is
delivering God, and that’s what the churches have all lost. And
the churches do that because they have power, they have
money, they have the best real estate. The country, The biggest real estate holders
in the world. Yeah, I grew up in Rehoboth
Beach, Delaware, which is known as the nation’s gay summer
capital. It’s three hours east of Washington, DC, and all the
alternate lifestyle people had houses. There tons of gay bars,
you know. And when I was a young kid, all the rednecks used to go
beat up the gay guys at the gay bars, and it was just a horrible
that town is so beautiful and loving now and compassionate. I
go down see my brother play in his band. I go to all the gay
bars and see him play. There’s no even thought of it. But
what’s so interesting is the Catholic Church had a multi
million dollar mansion on the beach, and all the all the
priests used to come vacation there. Shocking. And I cannot
tell you how many priests I’ve seen come out of gay bars with
their boyfriends. And I don’t care about how they love I don’t
care who they love. I do care about the hypocrisy of saying
other people can’t that bothers me, but that’s the church
doctrine. So let’s we, we touched on this,
but I’d love to hear your what you what you know about this
subject, the King James. King James is Bible. Is the one that
we all look at now. It’s the it’s the it’s the one that
everyone is the book that everyone in the West, at least
reads. And it’s the King James Version. I remember seeing the
King James Version again. Never connecting that there was a King
James. I’m just dance that way. Who’s King James? How did the
version that comes up? And then after that, let’s touch up the
Dead Sea Scrolls when we’re done. Okay, great. Yeah, great guys.
Awesome. So King James was Shakespeare’s patron. Yeah,
Elizabeth British, yeah, yeah. Elizabeth was when Shakespeare
was his heyday. When Elizabeth died, King James became the next
successor. Took on Shakespeare as his, as his, his artistic
protege, per se. That’s why the King James version has, although
these, those thou shalt nots and all that stuff, because this is
Elizabethan English, right? That is the Elizabeth Elizabethan
English. So James was very much into the language of the time,
which was Shakespeare and and bacon and all those people. But
when King James had that commissioned, what he was taking
was the bishop’s Bible. The old there’s a one called the
bishop’s Bible. He says, I want you to convert this from Latin
into Elizabethan English, but I want you to take out anything
that could be used against the monarchy. And so they stripped
out anything that they could be used against the monarchy to
take him out of power. So the King James Version is a poetic
translation of a Latin book that is a translation of Hebrew of
Greek, yes, Greek, right? And Hebrew from the Old Testament
especially. But each version had different changes, different
constructs, and by the time it got to King James, it became the
most altered version of the Bible. And right now there’s a
movement to come back to the original text, yeah. Like the Ethiopian Bible is very
different, Very different, very and like,
there’s a, there’s a scholar who I love to listen to, Dan
McClellan. He’s a, he’s actually a Mormon, but he’s he’s very
strict about scholarly work. And I love listening to him. But I
listen to him and he talks about, well, the new standard
version of the revised vision of the this is the latest version
of the Bible, the new standard, revised version of the it’s
like, this is the title. It just even in the title of it tells
you that it’s not anything close to the original. It seems to me that what you’re
explaining the King James version of it. It’s the one that
has red 40 in it, and all the other artificial preservatives
and stuff like that, the chemicals. Yeah, it’s not
organic. It’s not healthy for you. It’ll kill you slowly. Yeah,
exactly. Just like bacon, but anyway. But just anyway. I love bacon. I can’t argue that I do. I do miss bacon, Because bacon is meat candy. But that’s what it sounds like.
It’s like. It’s like all this, there’s so much crap that
they’ve put into it that dilutes the original meaning Well. And like, like I said, the
Codex, Codex Sinaiticus, had edits on every page, the text
that they found in St Catherine Monastery, every version has
edits and translating from Greek to Latin to English and German
and French. And there might be a couple of a couple of things.
There also might be a couple of scribes who, like, didn’t like
what that thing said And back then, and they would just change
it, right? And then you look at the concept of. All these
Gnostic and Coptic texts that didn’t make it right. Gospel of
Tom, well, Gospel of Thomas. We’re talking about vegetarian
earlier. I’ll just throw this in. Gospel of Thomas. A lot of
the New Age folks are really diving into this Gnostic Gospel
of Thomas. They asked him in there what diet he should
follow. He says, it’s not what comes out goes into your mouth
that defiles you. What comes out, right? It’s a great line.
Great line, right? Great line. But it’s always it comes back to
this ideology that every version had his own version, and every
version had had simple changes, and even translating from one
language to the other. You know, it’s like, right now, they use
the word Messiah, right? Or Christ, they mean the same
thing, right? Christos, well, they those two words, Messiah
and Christ have two different meanings. In ancient Hebrew,
Messiah, what comes from the word Messiah, which means a king
or a ruler, not a spiritual guide, not a spiritual leader or
some Savior that’s coming. A Messiah, a ruler who’s going to
guide our people into a new future. Christ means the
anointed one right now, what’s interesting is Messiah to become
a king or a ruler. They anoint the king into the position. So
both of these, the word Christ has become Messiah. The word
original Messiah was meshiach. So there’s this transition from
a king or a ruler to the spiritual deity, and the
variation between the two is a struggle. And now, because of
the way we live our Christianity in the world, they lean into the
LA, the latter, but the original was a king or a ruler. So, so
there’s a very variation there, right? And as it gets further
and further down the line, all the way up to King James, now
he’s talking about Christ, but he’s saying it with the these
and the 1000, the pretty words. It is interesting that that when
people are confronted with information like this, you know,
as Catholics, yeah, let’s because you and I speak from a
place of where we knew, yeah, when you were confronted with
facts, that are facts, these are historical facts, not hearsay,
but some of this historical facts. So everything we’re
talking about from the Council of nice like this is all known,
documented, yeah, this is not fake news. This is not made up.
This is documented stuff. They have to they have to come. They
have to rationalize that it can’t be true, right? Because if
they even admit to the potentiality of it being
somewhat true, it rocks the foundation that they’ve built
their entire identity on, And they’re stuck in a time
period where that those things were condemned. That’s why, you
know, I for every day I get my comments on my on my YouTube
channel, must be fun. Oh, but you know what? For every one
negative one, I get 500 beautiful Oh, yeah, agreed,
right, right. But the negative ones use the words heresy,
heretic, blasphemy, hell yeah, all of those three that I just
said are medieval words. That’s amazing, heresy,
blasphemy and Blasphemy, heresy and oh, he
also, they also call me the Antichrist, obviously, heresy,
blasphemy, I hope no. First of all, to roll back the
tape. First of all, to call you the Antichrist is giving you a
hell of a lot of power there. Yeah, I mean, that means you are
the dude, yeah, the one that they spoke. I know isn’t that crazy kind of
they call me a false prophet, a false teacher, but you’re but
here’s the interesting about those thing, false prophet,
false teacher. First of all, I don’t prophesy. I never tell you
the future, because I think everything is in the now. And a
false teacher, to be a false teacher, means I’m not teaching
what you want me to teach, right? Because, because of the people
who you aren’t listening to what you like, it’s what they want to
hear, right? Or they want or they’re interested in, to learn And and one of the, one of the
one of the comments I got one time, and it’s very interesting,
I had a Jehovah Witness come on and leave me a message. And he
was like, I think you seem like a very nice guy. You seem like a
very kind guy, John, but I would be wrong if I didn’t try to save
you and bring you back to Jesus. Obviously, to Jesus, right? To
his Jesus, right, right. But then he said, I know I’m
probably going to be crucified on your channel for doing for
saying this. And I came back and I said, if someone crucifies you
on my channel for saying this, they will be banned from my
channel, because you are obviously coming from a loving
place trying to save me into your belief system, the key. And
you started with compliments, so you were obviously being loving
in the moment. So but he can’t. He cannot, and it doesn’t matter
what he believes, because, you know, spirituality is a personal
journey. Absolutely, as long as he’s delivering love, the book
of Matthew says, You shall know them by their fruit, right? I
have one video on my on my recovering Catholic channel
right now. The title of video is, i. Uh, Catholic. Catholicism
is the deadliest religion in the world. Oh, that, I’m sure I
gotta go. Oh, my God. It was great the next because I, I was
showing this the historical statistics of all religions and
what deaths are attributed to, absolutely right? And you look
at the Bible itself. You know, there, there’s, there’s two
people who killed people religiously in the Bible, one of
them killed 10 people and one of them killed 2 million. Satan
killed 10, God killed 2 million. So this, this, this idea of
because, so I put this out, I had to stop all comments on that
video, of course, Oh, God. And if you go to that video now,
it’s, it says, because of the abuse of foul language and hate
speech, you know, comments, but, but by, by, by people who say
they follow Jesus, right? I, I I am holding back on the comments
on this, stopping the comments on this video. I cannot tell you
the people who claim to follow Joshua or Jesus, who will will
tell me I’m burning in hell, who will call me a son of a whatever
you know, and they’ll say these horrific, hateful things, and
sometimes I’ll get a little ornery, and I’ll say, yeah,
yeah. I’m sure that’s exactly what Joshua would have said, or
something like that. But to me, it’s like, if you can’t accept
that, that 70% of the world who doesn’t believe the same as you,
you know, is, is still can be loving people, then I don’t
think you understand what God really is. I think also too, that people
who don’t travel, people who don’t travel and stay in their
own town, their own country for their entirety of their life,
and don’t travel outside to different worlds and different
cultures, are not only I think I personally, I love traveling,
and I love being and love seeing new cultures. I love seeing that
stuff, and I love going to new countries and seeing how they do
things, and, yeah, all that stuff. Like, I’m obsessed with
this one social media account that’s all about things in
Japan. And I’m like, what it’s like? Just the stuff that they
come up with, the technologies. You’re like, what is this?
Amazing! Amazing, amazing. But because when you travel, and
you’ve traveled the world multiple times as a carny or as
a Renny, As a USO performer, Exactly, you start to see other
people. And what I’ve come to realize by traveling as much as
I have is that everyone just wants to be loved. They just
want to live peacefully. They want to be prosperous. That
that’s it. They’re just good people, just because you don’t
believe every exact same story, and this is all it’s about, is a
story that you believe. It’s a it’s a movie. It’s essentially
the Trekkies versus the Star Wars, guys, that’s all it is. I
believe that serious dog. I mean, now the comments are gonna
go crazy. It’s like, Yoda is the way, as opposed to no Captain
Kirk is the way, you know, Roddenberry is the way. It’s
just two different stories that we believe I can appreciate
track, I can appreciate the things, and I do. I’m a fan,
yeah, but I’m not a devotee, like so many, right, right? I
like Star Wars more. That’s the one that rang true for me. I’m
using this as a very loose example. I’m funny see or
Marvel. I mean, it’s all relative. I find it really fascinating.
You brought this up because I yesterday, I got an email from
someone who wants me to write an article for SCI fi.net Okay, to
bringing spirituality through sci fi and superhero Perfect.
Now, the reason they wanted me is because I talk about that in
my in my videos, but I love that. What you said about, you
know, we travel the world, you know, I find the people who
don’t leave their 100 square miles are the most close minded
because they haven’t had the experience of others. I used to
travel. I’ve been to 30 countries, 32 states in all the
countries I went to. I asked, I asked a very specific question.
I said, what’s most important to you? I never heard one say their
religion. I never heard one say their job. I never heard one say
the number one answer is always the family. Yeah, but what is
the family? The family is the the physical representation of
love on Earth, absolutely and so to them, all of them, all of
them are about love and compassion. When I went through
all the middle, middle eastern countries, and I was all over
the Middle East, and I found beautiful, loving people
everywhere, everywhere. I also found butt heads, yeah, but you
found butt heads everywhere? I found butt heads everywhere,
right, right, everywhere. And some of the butt heads are the
ones who are the ones who didn’t travel out of their little 100
miles, out of their little 100 miles, because they believe this
is the what their world is. They are living on the flat earth,
because their flat Earth is only 100 miles long, right? And so
they are living in that experience of not, not going.
Out and experiencing the world, you know. And when you get out
of your your circle, and you get out and you start experiencing
that, all humans are humans, and they all have one thing in
common. They all want to be loved and to give love. That’s
the only thing that matters. Joshua’s way was simple. It
wasn’t the dogmas of the church and the religions and the the
Bibles and the the don’t mess with my monarchy stuff. It was
the love one another, his final word. I leave you one
commandment, love one another. I am the fulfillment of prophecy,
which means set Abraham down and just be love. That’s what he
That’s what He taught. And religions will take that away
from you, because that means that the power is within you, Because any organization wants
to retain its power, right? All of them across every aspect of
human life, right? I heard some one day somebody says, like, if
tomorrow morning, we discover that if we get a bowl of warm
water, put a little bit of Himalayan salt in it, and a drop
of lemon, and you put your finger in that, and that and
that cures cancer. Let’s say that is real, yeah, that will be
completely dismissed, demonized and thrown out because of the
billions and billions of dollars based in that, in that industry
that that treats cancer, because the money is not in curing
cancer, right, right? Isn’t treating it. You know, it’s
fascinating, but that goes up along everything. So what I love about that, that
analogy, is that they are, they are profiting from their asset,
and their asset is not the product, it’s the fear,
absolutely so they’re more they’re profiting from that. You
brought up cancer about seven years ago, I was making swords
for Cirque du Soleil. I was making pirate aluminum
cutlasses, and about 100 swords in, I started not feeling well,
and I went to the doctor, and they informed me that my lungs
were filled with spots. And they told me, John, we have to go in
and we have to do biopsies and procedures and but before we can
put you under you’ve got to lose some weight. So they put me on a
500 calorie restricted liquid diet for three months. And I
said, Well, he said, then we’re going to do these, these
procedures. I said, Okay, Doc, here’s what we’re going to do. I
said, I’ll go on the diet because obviously I need to lose
weight, right? But in three months we’re not going to do
these procedures. They go, What do you mean? I said, in three
months we’re going to do these tests again, and then we’re
going to make decisions about procedures. And I said, Okay, so
I went home. I stopped making swords because the reason I had
spots in my lungs was because the toxic aluminum dust. Of
course, I stopped making stories. I got up in the
morning, I said, Thank you God for the perfect lungs. I am
receiving Amen. Now, what I just said is a completely present
moment statement. When you thank for something, it’s because you
believe it’s happening in the now. Thank you God
consciousness. Yada yada. I don’t care what you call it. I
call it God. Mama’s Catholic. Thank you God for the perfect
lungs, the exact thing I’m creating in the present moment.
I am present moment declaration, also the name of God, according
to Moses, right? I am receiving. Present Moment action, not
received, or will receive, but receiving. And then I ended it
all with Amen. And Amen means so be it. It means right here,
right now. It’s done. So everything I said was present
moment. Next morning, I got up and I took a walk in the park.
And as I walked through the park and I am receiving, I am
receiving perfect lungs, and I just breathe deep. At three
months, I went back. There was not a single spot my lungs. And
what they say, they were like, Well, what did you do? And I
just told, I told him exactly that. I said, our reality comes
from our belief about the present moment. But the key part there is that
you still went to a doctor to get yourself. I did because I didn’t know. I
know I didn’t feel well, and I know I didn’t understand what
was not going well. I went to a doctor, right? And I would still
go to a doctor if something else happened today. Yeah, you’re not going to just,
you know, talk about it in your head, right? Yeah, as we all get
older, exactly, the wheel starts Well, you know, I truly believe
that, that, you know, the first lines of the book of John, once
again, book of John, The best book, Best Book of all.
Obviously, It starts out in the beginning
of the Word, the Word was with God. The Word was God, your
words, your thoughts, your beliefs, which are all present
moment, go out to the source. The Source reflects those words,
thoughts and beliefs in the image around you, and we are
created in God’s image, which is right in the Bible. So it always
comes back to, what is your faith? You know, once again, the
translation of faith in Christianity, Faith means faith
in Jesus, but the word means belief. Let me ask you this, John, this
is another part of of the Christian doc that just never
made sense to me, because it’s the Old Testament and the New
Testament, because they jam these two books together,
because apparently they needed to fill it out. You couldn’t
sell just New Testament, the Old Testament, for whatever reason,
the concept that God. Yeah, that God and Jesus. So Jesus is the
Son of God, right, right, yeah, but then he’s referred to as
God, which never made sense to me, right? And as a kid, I was
like, wait, wait, wait, there’s a father, because, God forbid,
there’d be a mother, but there’s a father, right? The Father
Almighty, right? And then he is the son of this father, yeah,
but yet we call Jesus God. Well, what about the dude, this other
dude? I never it just made no logical sense. And it shouldn’t make logical
sense to you. In the Bible, in the ancient texts, he never
refers to himself as the Son of God. He always refers to the Son
of Man, meaning that he’s a human just like you and I, right
this concept of the he says in the Bible, the father and I are
one, but no one ever goes on and finishes the statement, because
the Father and I are one, and you must become one with me, as
I am with the Father. He’s literally saying, We’re all one
with this, with God. We’re all part of the sparks divine. We’re
all sparks of the he’s saying the same things the Hindus are
saying and and what’s interesting about it is, is that
this construct of the God outside of us, the external God,
is based in the Old Testament ideologies of a patriarchal God,
a male patriarchal God, right? The father and I Why didn’t they
say Mother? Because they it was a patriarchal time. It’s a
historical throwback to a time of patriarchy in reality, when
it went further and it got to the Trinity. Now people go the
Trinity. That’s Biblical. Nope. Third century. Third century
invention by a theologian, right? But I like the Trinity,
because Father Son, Holy Spirit, the God consciousness, the son
consciousness. Well, I don’t even think of as Earth that way.
I think of it more as it’s like Purna has talked about the idea
of our consciousness. You have the physical world
consciousness, and you’re aware of your physical identity. Then
there’s this next broader awareness of consciousness,
where we’re aware of the people around us, and we start to get
intuitions, and we start to finish people’s sentences. And
then there’s a broader one where we get out to even more people.
And this awareness and levels of consciousness, the Father, the
sit in Hinduism, the God consciousness, the sun, the sit,
sat key, the individual spark of consciousness. Then, but the
lowest form of this awareness, we don’t feel divine, we feel
separate. We feel alone. And we don’t feel that connection. Then
there’s the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is our higher self.
It’s our it’s our divine consciousness that’s aware of
the God consciousness and aware of our physical world
consciousness. And this is where our intuition comes from. Our
that now I’m going to turn right rather than left, comes from,
because we’re getting, we’re getting trickles of this divine
consciousness that is our Holy Spirit consciousness, or higher
self consciousness. So I think it really what it is, is levels
of consciousness, right? And then to for an ancient mind to
try to extrapolate that, they break it down to three of
course, there’s this God thing out here that we have to pray
to. There’s this being a physical world stuff. But if you
go back to the Psalms, the most famous Psalm in history, though
he walked through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall
fear no evil, for thou art with me. Yeah. Pulp Fiction, yeah. Sorry. Well, to me, it’s one of the
most profound, because if you think about it, from the levels
of consciousness, I’m going down into a valley where death is a
possibility. Yeah, right. It’s not the valley of death. It’s
the valley of the shadow of death, the illusion that we can
die. So we’re coming down into this lower, lower thing. And it
literally says you don’t need to fear, because love is always
with you. So it’s literally talking about this level of
consciousness where, when we’re in this valley, we can’t see the
peak, but the peak is always with us. Now we I wanted to talk about
before we finish up. Two things. One, Dead Sea Scrolls, yeah, and
then hell, okay, small things. So Dead Sea Scrolls. I remember
in the 90s, 80s and 90s, that sea scrolls were discovered in
the 5046, 1940 Yeah, exactly. So, like, late 40s, early, yeah,
late 40s. So, but then I heard that the Catholic church went
in, we can’t have this, and they kept it behind closed doors for
decades, until something happened that someone opened it
up. Yeah, I don’t know that story, But, but, but they kept,
according to what I understood, they kept it quiet, yeah, but
then they got released, out of pressure. They finally released
it for the for the historians to be able to read it, because I
discovered, when I was in Italy, that if anything is discovered
that is of Christian descent, the Catholic church comes in and
automatically. Owns it, Right, right? Because the
Catholic means universal, means it’s ours, it’s ours. And they’ll go in and like, for
the queen, like it kind of thing. It’s, it’s, They plant their flag Very, very Cortez, very Cortez
esque. So then they came out. But the Dead Sea Scrolls talk a
lot about different things that are in the Bible. Well, it was a
problem Well, it’s actually, actually,
actually what’s interesting in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Okay, so
I’m gonna get into some new age ideologies. Okay, look where you
are, sir. Okay, so, so right now, everyone’s claiming that
the Dead Sea Scrolls are about this mystical sect called the
Essenes in the time period, to say an esneen is like saying
Pharisee or sudecy. It’s just another Judaic sect. The Dead
Sea Scrolls are nothing but books of the Torah, right? They
don’t mention Jeshua, they don’t mention vegetarianism, they
don’t mention anything else what’s happening now, and once
again, this goes back to the Theosophical Society ideas is
there were a couple of people. One was Reverend elsley, who
wrote the gospel of the Holy 12 as a series of newspaper
articles where he was marrying Theosophical Society into the
New Testament, and that he said he pushed vegetarianism and all
those things that those texts came out between 1894 and 1903
as a series of newspaper articles. There is no gospel of
the Holy 12. It was never shown. There was never He claimed he
found it in a Tibetan monk as a from a monastery, right? But he
never let anybody see it. It was, it was all him putting that
stuff. Then later on, Edmund Je Kelly wrote the the esseen
Gospel of peace. Now, a lot of new age teachers are leaning
into the scene gospel of peace right now, the problem is Edmund
je Kelly claimed he found two versions of that, one being in
the Vatican Library, one being in another library of the time.
I forget the name of it. It’s in one of my videos. But he never
showed pictures of it, never showed drawings of it, never
showed any proof that ever existed. Both the Vatican, any
other place say it doesn’t exist. But the Essen gospel
piece is filled with this esoterica of the Essenes that
all match the Theosophical Society teachings, for some
reason, including vegetarianism, everything else, no scholar
takes either one of them seriously. No scholar believes
they are written by the Essenes because they know they that
these two people, who would never show the original text and
modern, New Age gurus, are leaning into these as fact and
truth as the Essenes. But even the Dead Sea Scrolls are not
100% known to be a scene. They are. They are known to be of a
Judaic sect who were into ritual bathing, and then they lean into
the Edgar Casey stuff, right? Edgar Casey said that that
scrolls will be found near the Dead Sea in the 1940s he said
that, and a few years later, and then he died in 45 and they were
found in 46 right? So, but he didn’t say was the Essenes at
that time, he mentioned the Essenes earlier writings, but he
said they were an elusive sect who were trying to prepare for
the Messiah. He never said Jesus, he never said
vegetarianism, never said healing, he never said
esoterica. He said that they were a Judaic sect, just like
the Pharisees or the citizens Yeshua clearly said before
Abraham wasn’t him, which means he wasn’t part of the Judaic
belief system. And so for him to be any of those would be
antithetical to what he was saying. Also, Joshua talked love
and peace. Would you agree? You totally agree. First armed
conflict to get from was led by John the esseen. Kind of a
little mess up there, right? Yeah, well, there’s the
Crusades, but, yeah, there’s that too, right? There’s a
little thing I never made sense either. That doesn’t make sense. So, so
to me, you know, people can believe all they want. They’re
allowed to. I will always go back and research everything
that I that I’m talking about, because I want to know, and I
did the research. But John, the thing is to like,
I’m sure you’ve been there, but like, when you stand in the
Vatican and you look around, I remember when I did that. I just
sat there and I just said, this has nothing to do with Jesus.
Nothing to do this, this pomp and circumstance, black smoke,
white smoke. I mean, the the outfits like this has nothing to
do with Jesus Christ, Jeshua never said, go to a
church on Sunday. Jeshua never said, you, you must eat my body
and blood. That’d be weird. Yeah, that’d be really weird,
right, even in those days and the construct of sub, sub what’s
it called? Sub transition? What? Where the church says, when we
say it’s the blood, blood and body of Christ, it is period.
You have to believe it. But it’s wine and some, some
really tasty bread. But if you go well, I tasty
subjective. Hey, listen, I remember the
taste of of the holy, the wafer. Yeah, I always want, as a kid, I
can we just buy those. Those are tasty. You must have a good, good I had
a good batch. Ours tasted like melting cardboard. Mine did too, but it was the
80s. But you like, it was the 80s,
okay, different world, the age of padded shoulders. But the the
thing about him, you know, he never, he never said, you know,
if he was a Jewish man. The Sabbath was Saturday, not
Sunday, correct, right? That gets changed. So he never said
all of these theologies that happened hundreds of years
later. But what did he What did he say? Love one another. Go out
in the streets and help that person up, right? Keeping your
mind in the present moment of love and expressing it had
nothing to do with the doctrines and dogmas, the diets, the all
the stuff. What I find fascinating too, is
that his message, his energy, what he was able to do to
humanity, has been able to survive in one shape or form,
essence, the true essence of it, beyond all of the crap that’s
been thrown in this poor man’s shoulders. You know, Buddha
didn’t get that, you know, Krishna didn’t get that. They
have other stresses, but not this like it was. It’s pretty
fascinating to see where this how, how his story and how his
teachings have been completely like changed. Yeah, one, tell me
what you know about this, the God. When is it? The Rapture?
The Rapture. Okay, I love the rapture. I think it’s fantastic.
It’s a great story. It’s a great add on to the end. It really
solidifies that we’re the only way. Well, sure. I mean, it
solidifies it in a way, like, if you don’t believe, one day the
Rapture will come, and all non believers will be left here on
earth, and all us believers will be taken up Crazy. And it’s good. We have 8
billion people in the world, 144,000 And how many Catholics? Right,
right? So, I mean, you got to be like the best of the best of the
best, like the NBA. I love that you asked how many
Catholics? Because 30% of the world are Christian, right? 20%
of those are Catholic, yeah, less than half of those are
practicing Catholics, correct? So my numbers are pretty good to
get in, I think, right? I had someone tell me he’s going to
try to save me so I could be raptured. I said, okay, but I’m
going to take your seat, right? If there’s only 144,000 there’s
only so many that they can take right See, that was a mistake in
the storytelling. Evangelicals, yes, Methodists, Baptists, all
grabbed a hold of it, because what better way to keep your
people in line than to tell them they have to start being good to
be 144,001 of the 144,000 now, of course, in going into what
you were saying, evangelical teachings are all about
marketing. Oh, they’re marketing the the rapture and everything
else. That’s what the Left Behind series. Oh yeah, is all
about that. So now can I? Can I kind of shift this a little bit,
please. The New Age has its own version. Yeah, by the way, before we
switch into the new age, how did the rapture get? Is it in any
Bible? It’s not. It’s not in the Bible. There’s no Bible. There’s
no there’s nothing. The King James doesn’t have the rapture.
So who? So it’s just something that people talk about. It’s
there’s no proof of any of it, Not in the Bible anywhere.
There’s a talk, there’s a mention of the word tribulation,
which is when they say the rapture is supposed to happen.
There’s no, there’s no, there’s no event called the rapture in
the Bible at all. So it’s completely, complete BS, and it
was made up by John Nelson Darby. They know exactly who did
it. The guy who actually created it was Minister John Nelson
Darby, okay, in 1830 1830 that’s not that long ago. Not at all.
Right, not at all. Oh, so the New Age, the New Age has, has
its own version, and they call it the 5d Oh, yeah, the fifth
dimension, yes, because we’re all supposed to evolve and bring
ourselves up to be part of the 5d and what’s happening now, you
can see how this, this new age rapture, idea of the 5d is
falling apart. Interesting, because now what you’re finding
is you’re finding people are saying, I’ve already ascended to
the 5d and they start preaching and teaching that they’re
already there, right? So that’s that’s the same thing the
Evangelicals did with the rapture. I’ve already come to
the point where I know that I’m being raptured, so I’m here to
save you, right? Here’s the here’s the here’s something that
I think everyone should consider all of the spiritual teacher of
Israel talked about being present, right? Most of the
religions are based in 2000 years old stuff in our past.
Right, or prophecies of the future, right? The majority of
the of the New Age teachers are talking about the things that
were hidden from us in our past, or this ascension that’s going
to happen to us in our future. Neither one of them is in the I
am moment, not. Neither one of them is in the present. Neither
one of them is actually creating their divinity, in the now
they’re giving you methods, modalities, techniques and
dogmas to reach this ascension or to go back and find some
hidden truth that has been taken from them With the with the whole 5d
thing. This is something that we’ve talked about a lot, And people like I said, I’m not
dissing someone’s belief in it. No, no, my truth is my truth,
and I only speak my truth Exactly. And no problem with
that. But the whole concept of the 5d which people are like,
we’re in third we’re in the third dimensional world now, and
that we’re going to evolve to the 5d I do believe that we are
evolving. They just put a name on it, that there’s multiple
timelines that you know the 5d people will be like, it’s, it’s
the way you presented. The 5d idea is a little bit more
dogmatic than what I look at it as, yeah, which is very kind of
like, we’re all evolving. Yeah, I’m not better or worse than
you, right? I’m, I either am a few steps ahead, I’m definitely
a few steps back. But you’re, you are. You are an
anomaly within that group, from my perspective, okay, because I
have 5d people coming at me hard all the time, just, like
Christians, really just like Christians. We just like Yeshua would, yeah. Well, and the thing, the thing
is, I look at it from the perspective of, if they’re
focused on this ascension in the future, you know, Gandhi said,
Be the change you want to see in the world. Yes, you can only be
it in the now. It’s the only moment you’re ever conscious.
You know, I there’s an analogy that I love, that I use all the
time when I’m talking to someone in my private sessions, I talk
about, you know, imagine you have a boat, and you anchor the
boat in the middle of a river. Now that boat is stationary
because it’s anchored, but the water’s flowing past the boat.
Behind the boat, there’s a wake, there’s a swirl, there’s motion
in the water because of the boat, but 100 feet in front of
the boat, there’s no shape in the water whatsoever, just a
bunch of water, and that water comes to the boat, and it hits
the bow of the boat, and it parts, and it creates, it
creates the shape of the boat in the river. Okay, now you’re in
your boat, I’m in my boat. Everybody’s in their own boat.
The water is the substance of the universe that all of our
experiences play out in. The motion of the water coming
towards the boat is how time works. It’s coming to us. We’re
not traveling through it, and that’s easy to prove, because
your past is just a collection of present moment memories, and
your future is just a place where you’re setting goals for
your next present moment. But every experience of your life
will happen in your present moment and has happened in your
present moment, so that means you only are in this one moment,
this one moment of consciousness and the experience is coming to
you like the energy coming to your illusion of your
experience. Now, the majority of the people I talk to think
they’re in a sinking dingy, bucketing out the water, trying
not to go under a lot of fear, right? I think I’m on the deck
about three mascot schooners, sipping a margarita, right? Because you’ve evolved, sir.
Well, you are in the 5d sir, Well, because I chose it, right?
Yeah, your present moment choice of belief is going to create
your experience. If you know a negative person, they are
incredibly good creators. They believe the world’s negative. So
they see a negative world, because that’s what they’re
creating around them. That’s irrelevant to any other
dogma, any other dog, any other rapture, 5d all of it. It’s
fascinating. And I don’t disagree with the evolution of
humanity and an evolution of consciousness. I don’t disagree
with that. I think that’s happening. We’ve seen it happen
in our lifetime, right from when you were born to where we are
now. Like I said about our kids, our
kids having more beautiful future. So putting a name on it, that’s
fine if that, if you want to do 5d great, it’s all but I don’t
believe it. If it’s used in a way to separate yourself from
somebody else. That’s when I disagree. Yeah, it’s just an
idea. It’s just a place where we and we all evolve. And when you hear some of these
teachers say, I’m already in the five day, that’s defining
themselves, right? Right? That’s putting yourself on a pedestal.
And I get a lot of that, people say, I’m already in the five
day, right? I’ve got to have it. A lot of people who say that’s
because, that’s because you’re not there yet. That’s why you
believe that, John, We’re all just trying to figure
it out John. Yeah, I agree. And I and see,
the thing is, I go back to my first regression, where I said
it’s so simple, we have a hard time comprehending it, right? I
measure everything against simplicity. And once they start
saying dimensions and and, you know, alien contact and all the
blood. Hey, when it happens, when it
happens, it happens. Do I believe that there could be
aliens in the universe? Of course. I mean, everything’s logically,
logic. There’s a trillion planets out there. We’re the
only ones, right, right? And to me, it’s, you know, I had
someone talk about the Big Bang Theory. To me one time, It’s a great show. A fantastic
show. But I said, I said, did you I
said, But you know, that’s, that’s still just a theory,
right? It’s absolutely and they go, No, it’s not. I go, then why
does this say theory at the end? Right? I said, I said, Can I ask
you a question? Yeah. I said, what will happen if you discover
that the universe is expanding because we keep thinking bigger
thoughts? He blew his mind, right? It blew his mind. We’re all trying to figure out
this matrix that we’re all living in. Yeah, exactly. All it is. And I
look at it from the perspective of if my beautiful present
moment is loving and caring and joyful, I came here today into
your studio, and I met a beautiful your beautiful wife
and your and your child. And we laugh, we joked, we talked
stories, we shared our geek stuff about cameras and stuff we
had just a lovely moment, right? That is the expression of love
and living that moment that, simply, to me, is, is the way of
Joshua. He just loved and he listened and he heard and he and
he truly expressed What I what I think that is
happening with everyone on this wall, and many masters who’ve
walked this earth, this this plane before, is we’re all
dropped in this experience. And it’s kind of like we’re all
scared little children, because we have the we have the delusion
that we are disconnected from anything, yeah? So we’re
terrified. This entire incarnation, this entire
reality, is to overcome fear absolutely learn truth of who we
are truly and where we are, where we are truly, and where we
live truly. That this is an experience, yeah, and we have to
overcome fear, because it number one thing everyone on this
planet has to overcome is fear in one way, shape or exactly,
every single And fear is the illusion of
love’s absence. Correct! And then there’s always
somebody, always somebody who will stand up and go, I know the
way, yeah. Oh, and when you’re terrified, I’m like, I want to
give him the power, right, right? It’s usually a him. I’ll
give him the power, because if anything goes wrong, I can blame
him, yeah, yeah, and I don’t have to blame myself, right?
Where Jeshua, Buddha, yoga, all of them said that responsibility
is within you. Within you. The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.
Everything is within you. But then that’s scary for especially
if you have certain dogma, certain training, certain
programming that you raised with. Then you’re like, wait a
minute, if it’s, if I’m if I’m God, then, Oh, that’s too much
pressure. And I’m like, But, and they start looking for
something, whether it’s a dogmatic idea, a new age idea, a
religious idea, whatever it they need to grab onto something to
build their reality around. It’s the rarity to see a soul walk
through this experience being open to everything, yeah, and
trying to grab it. That’s where we have to be. And my friend, I’m going to
compliment you on your platform, because that is exactly what
your platform does. It puts various truths in front of an
audience for them to pick and choose from. You know, I often
say on my channel, I only speak my truth, but I would never
judge you for your truth, unless your truth is harming another
right. But that’s to me, that’s the only thing. If you’re
harming somebody else, I’m going to speak up. I’m going to say
something, but if you, if you believe, like my friend Les
chick, and I’m going to throw his name out so he’ll feel good
about being on your channel. He’s up. He is one of the most
beautiful people you’ll ever meet. He’s He’s always smiling.
He’s always joyful. You see him and you all you smile the second
you meet him. He is so deeply into the Law of One material,
yeah, which, to me is far too complex. You know, it’s, it’s
much more complex. I think, I think it’s for I think it’s all
far simpler, but less. Leszek is so beautiful, so caring, so
loving. I think he found his way. That’s his that’s his
thing. That’s his thing. And I think that when I went to Egypt
and and I met amazing Muslim people who are just beautiful
and loving and caring and treated me like a family member, But that’s the story they held
on to to make sense of this world. Yes, yes, everyone grabs
on to the story. And by the way, they were probably grabbed onto
that story because they were born into that story, Born into that story, right? And
what I find fascinating about your story and my story, and my
story and a lot of Catholic stories, is, from a young age,
we start questioning. This doesn’t make sense, because our
truth is showing itself. Our truth is and we get knocked down
for our truth. You know, we say we can’t, you know, well, but
what doesn’t make any sense? You know, George Carlin said, George
Cardin said, he said, Is God so is all powerful? Can he make a
rock that he himself cannot lift? Head blown, head blown, right? I
heard the other day, and we’re gonna go geek here for a second.
Josh Brolin was on the talk show, and he was talking about
going to cons, and you and I have been to a con or two, I’m
sure. A comic book con or something like that over the
years. And he goes, You know, it’s not the most pleasant thing
for me, for him. And he was talking to other people like,
Oh, we love like, No, I love the fans. I think the fans are
really cool. He goes, but, but these fans, they come up and
they said, Hey, Josh, I’m gonna do it in my Simpsons comic book
voice, if you’re talking about if you were clano, if you were
clanos, and you could snap your fingers to wipe out half the
universe. You could also snap your fingers to double all the
resources in the universe, which is his reasoning for snapping, Mind blowing right exactly like, Of course, that’s a plot hole.
Yeah, we forgot about it. So many plot holes. And you
know, it’s, it’s, it’s the concept of of one story being
the right one. The plot holes always show up. But when you
step back and you look at the what’s consistent in all the
stories, that’s where you find truth, and that’s what I try to
do, yeah, and that’s exactly what your channel does. I love to talk to everybody
about every kind of walk of life, and learn new things about
every but the one thing that I have a unique perspective on is
I have the ability to now look at hundreds of stories, hundreds
of ideologies, and I start to see the patterns. Yeah, when you
study like that, and you start seeing the patterns, oh, they’re
just saying this, but just with a different flavor on it, and
this and that, When labels are confining very
much so they’re the boundaries of limitation of belief. Before we go, I just want to
hear your take on hell, sir, on hell yes, because it’s one of my
favorite things as a Catholic to talk about. Because in first
grade, I was told that there was a hell, and I went home crying,
yeah, because imagine telling a five year old, a six year old,
that if you eat meat on Friday, it’s got you done, yeah, yeah.
And then later on, I’m like, So you mean that if I mean I go to
hell, and if I kill somebody, I go to hell something, I get plot
hole issues. So I’ve loved to kind of demystify this whole
idea of hell, sure, because There is no hell in the Old
Testament. There’s only there is no hell in the Old
Testament. testament. There’s only Sheol,
yeah, which basically means you’re just going to, well,
there’s two different version of what it means. One of it is just
the place where dead people go, right? And the other one is a
hole in the ground, like a grave, right? You just kind of
like, yeah, you’re going to a grave. That’s it. That’s the end of it,
right? Yeah, there’s no, there’s, is there heaven? Do you not believe so there is,
there is, there is no eternal reward or punishment in Judaism,
right there that’s Surprising. There’s a lot of
punishment, a lot in that old testament, Eternal damnation. Ideologies
that came later, that came with Christianity, because they
needed more. They needed more. Oh, right, because there is no,
to my understanding, there is no like Vatican City for Judaism
back in the old like there wasn’t a centralized Judaism is a people correct?
It’s exactly right. Well, so let’s talk about it. Let’s talk
about hell first. Okay, the construct of hell in Joshua’s
time had nothing to do with the construct of hell of
Christianity today, you mean the devil. And the devil know that
Dante the Dante Inferno, exactly. But in the earliest
texts are written in Greek, and they use the term Hades, yeah.
Well, that’s, that’s old, that’s, that’s pagan ideology of
a terrible place, and Jeshua used the word Gehenna. And
Gehenna was a valley where a Judaic warlord killed a bunch of
children. And so it became a place known for Torment and
terrible things. Wasn’t there. It was in a garbage dump. Later
on, it supposedly became a trash dump where things were burned,
right, right? So it was a burning info burning in and if
you’re a bad kid, you’re gonna burn again, right? You know. So
this, this ideology of hell, but the hell became a very, very
profitable little ideology, right? Because it’s good sized
business when you go to the sacraments once again that last
right? So you’re gonna burn in hell if you don’t give us all
your money or your money or your house, right? So this idea of
this now, for there to be a hell, there has to be Satan. Oh,
you need a ruler, yeah. But in the ancient text, Satan did not
mean an individual person or an individual entity, or even the
opposing force of God of good news, Actually wheat gluten that turns
into that Satan. And we all know gluten is bad
foryou, exactly. So Satan meant accuser, someone who accused you
of something, and anybody could be a Satan. So if I accuse. She
was something. I was the Satan. And you have been called that
many times. It also meant temptation. So 40
days in the desert battling Satan could have easily been 40
days in the desert battling his own temptations. Yeah, could
have been easily in the same thing. Again, nobody was there.
No one was there, right? So as it goes further on, this, this
ideology starts to become into eternal damnation and stuff like
that. With our friend Paul, he starts pushing this idea of this
eternal damnation in hell, but he was also the one pushing
celibacy for every Christian, because he believed that the end
of the world was coming and hell was coming soon. Yeah, I was going to say that’s
not a great way to procreate, to move it along. And he thought specifically they
shouldn’t be having babies, because the end is coming, hell
is coming, right? So he had this idea of hell or heaven is coming
by the time Dante comes around, the medieval church had already
started creating this structure of hell, right? Dante writes the
inferno. Now there’s nine levels, and there’s a devil, and
there’s demons and all this stuff. They grabbed onto it.
Yeah, they grabbed onto it. Joshua never said it. If he said
hell in the Bible, which there are many Bibles say, he said
hell, a lot, but he would have said Sheol. He wouldn’t have
said damnation and all this stuff, but he did talk about
that again. Yeah. He’s like, Yeah, in a
sermon, he’s like, if you guys don’t get your stuff, you’re
gonna end up in a bad way, in a bad yeah, it’s gonna go bad. He
was just using residence, Yeah, it’s just like, it’s just
like, the the body and blood of Christ thing, right? He said,
Remember me when you eat and drink. That’s basically what he
said. In other words, I’m teaching you this truth. I’m
teaching you this truth, and I want you to remember it as
frequently as you eat and drink. Keep it in your daily idea. He
didn’t say, my body is this piece of bread and my wife, my
blood is that wine, right? You know, he said, Remember me as
frequently as you eat and drink, because that’s something you do
all the time. Wow, yeah, yeah. So, so there’s
no Hell No, hell no, hell no, hell fantastic. There’s no
Satan, no Satan, but satan. They took that kind of from the Book
of Enoch, right? If I’m not mistaken, the fallen, the fallen
angel is that? Well, that’s Lucifer. That’s a
different that’s a different person. Oh, hold on a second. Now, wait
a minute. So Lucifer is a different Yeah! Lucifer was a fallen
angel, but not the opposing force of God. He’s one who fell
from grace, came to Earth, Yeah, but he did? He go down. So
he’s not. Lucifer is not the ruler, Yeah, he’s no longer in the
divine essence up here. He’s now condemned to Earth, kind of like
least condemned Lilith. You know Lilith? Yes, Adam’s first wife,
right? She came down, sorry. Like Adam already got divorced.
Like, I can’t, I can’t. Lilith was not made of Adam’s
rib. She was an independently minded woman. Can’t have that
who, quote, unquote, wanted to be on top. And in the time
period of Judaism, if a woman was on top, that meant she had
subjugated her male of course. And so it you would have been a
subjugate of the woman in a patriarchal time. And it that
doesn’t work. So because this was an issue, she left Adam and
went off in the world and began in that theology became a
tormentor, demon, Obviously, right. All women were
right, and at that time, right. And then Eve was made from
Adam’s ribs, so he was, she would be forever subjugated to
Adam. So where does that? Where’s
little story? Oh, it’s, it’s in it’s an old
texts like coming out of Judaism and a lot of those other
stories. And you find it in some of the, some of the, the
earliest agnostic style stuff. So there’s mentions of it in
there. It’s not something that’s, that’s 100% accepted by
everybody in it, but it’s, but it’s there. It’s another part of the part of
the tap, It’s there. It’s and they just
said, No, So, so Lucifer is just a fallen
angel, just fallen. So, where did Lucifer become the devil.
Because he’s known as the devil. Lucifer became the devil about
the same time that Mary Magdalene became the prostitute.
Oh, wow, that power back. Yeah, that, yeah. Because what happens
is they start saying, we have to start making this concise so
it’s easy, more easy to understand. And Paul said women
shouldn’t be allowed to speak the Torah or, or, or be in the
same temple with with the men, obviously, right. And so for
Joshua to have a wife or a or someone he loved and who was a
powerful would have been completely antithetical. So they
married the story of the prostitute to her there too. The
only mention of Mary Magdalene in the gut in the Gospels is her
going to the tomb the. Day after and seeing that he wasn’t there.
How about Wasn’t she at the cross? Well, it doesn’t say that
in the Bible, but she was because my my past life
regression memory. I had her here, and his mother here. I’ve had multiple channels come
on the show, yeah? Who’ve channeled Mary, yeah, Magdalene.
And from many stories and also mystics as well, that I’ve heard
is that Mary was a disciple of of Jesus. She was a master in
her own right, and she financed. She came from a wealthy fish. She did come from wealthy
family. She financed his ministry because she probably,
she probably did. I don’t have, of course, I can only speak of
what I know. What’s interesting about about her was she was
living in a very patriarchal time. So for her to come out and
to say, to claim, to be someone who was that that enlightened
would have been she had been stoned to death, and they were
trying to and then you look at the Gnostic gospel of Mary
Magdalene, and she tells this amazing vision that came from
Jeshua. But then in the end, Peter says, Why should we listen
to you? You’re a woman, you know. Why would Jesus say that
to you? Why would he bring that to you? And then Levi says, What
are you talking about? He loved her more than us. Of course
she’s going to come to her. Of course you’re going to talk to
you, Peter. You’re just some surly guy, right? And Levi stuck
up for but the the concept of Peter and the other disciples
were against her was very much relevant to the time period.
Right? Do I think she understood she was teachings? Absolutely
do. But I think that those teachings were so simple and so
antithetical to the Jewish faith and the the Roman people that
her saying it as a woman would have been even more deadly for
her. Oh yeah, it would have been even more deadly for her. But I,
yeah, I totally believe, when you look at the painting I did
of the two of them together laughing, you know, she’s got
her head pressed onto his neck, and she’s just, they’re just
laughing together because they were being the love and the now,
right? And that was the that was the essence of it, in my
opinion. Like I said, that’s I can only speak my truth. I would
never judge anyone for believing differently than I unless, as I
say, they’re harming someone. John, we can keep going for I
know it’s just terrible. This is a deep, deep, well, my friend, I
knew this was going to happen. I’ve barely looked at any
questions. Oh, good. Asked. I don’t think I’ve looked at one
question at all. It’s just us riffing, which is beautiful. Now
I’m gonna ask you a few questions I ask all my guests.
There might be a couple of new ones in there. Oh, good. What is
your definition of living a fulfilled life? To be love in the now and to
express that love and feel that love coming to and from me every
moment. If you had a chance to go back
in time and speak to Little John, what advice would you give
him? Go back to Little John. Yeah, I
would tell him that all the powers within him, no matter
what’s being done to you at this time. And he would have said, heresy.
Now, what would Little John advice be to you today? Oh, little John’s advice be to
me. Oh, that’s a nice one. Have fun. Have fun. Just be just be
joy. Be Love. Let be laughter. How do you define God or source
everything and everyone? And we are just the director of what
this energy shows us. What is love, everything and everyone,
and we are the director of everything That’s very lazy, but Okay, and
what is the ultimate purpose of life? We ended with an easy one. And once again, I’m going to say
it is, it is to be and express love in the now, to be here in
this one present, conscious moment, and be the essence of
love, the Jeshua to love one another. How about that one? Now where can people find out
more about you and the amazing work you’re doing? Oh, thank you for saying that’s
amazing. You can get find me at johnofnew.com or on my YouTube
channels, John of new or the recovering Catholic. One of them
is more controversial than the other, Obviously. And do you have any
parting messages for the audience? Yeah, understand that though you
may have doubts, that you may have self worth issues. Those
are from your past, and you are the author of your story. And
until you acknowledge that you’re the author of the story,
you’ll be a character in somebody else’s and so take this
moment and look at the blank page in front of you and decide,
am I writing a tell you comedies are much more
fun. Well played, sir. Well played,
John. It’s a pleasure having you on the show is a pleasure having
you here in the studio. And I look forward to many other
collaborations in the future. Sir, we’re working on one right
now. I’ll end off with this. We’re working on a course that
we’re doing, a very special course that we’re doing together
that will be available at next level soul and everything will
tell everybody about it when it comes out. But there’s some
we’re going to be doing some cool stuff together. So John, I
appreciate you and everything you do in awaken this, this
planet and this, this people that we are. So thank you, my
friend, And the same to you, Alex, this,
this platform you’ve created, is a seed that’s growing into
something far more beautiful. Yeah. We are trying, sir, we are
trying. So I appreciate you.
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Love the easy and delight camaraderie between John and Alex
Love the revelations about life and teachings of John’s Friend, Jeshua , and love the open-mindedness of the host Alex
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Travel is wonderful but an open mind is better, it’s a generalization to say only people who travel are more understanding of others. I have travelled extensively and have found closed minded people everywhere even among the “travellers”.
HI ALEX HI JOHN THE BELOVED HOW LOVELY TO SEE JOHN AGAIN A REAL TRUE SPIRITUAL TEACHER WHO I FEEL DID REINCARNATE GOG BLESS BOTH. CYNTHIA ENGLAND.
I love John but we disagree on yeshua being an essence. He claims absolutely no im going completely the other way, but fun to discuss really fun to discuss.
We are one with God, made from love. We were lied to for 100s of year when it comes to jesus. The fear of God was put into us in school & church & it never sat well with me so I questioned everything & got into alot of trouble in the 60s 70s 80s for asking questions.
Bravo, very enlightening! Brilliant show! Thanks so much for sharing! 😊
thankyou Alex ! 😉 Love your channel.
Just BE the Love !!!
If only humans weren't so damn fallible.
Traveling would be a blessing and I wish I could….but…I am 61 and I am Spiritual. I believe as u both do and live my life off grid in Interior Alaska, off grid on 10 acres as a single female. O am an empath, have to be in nature. Myself and neighbors may not agree on all things but we r respectful and barter/trade for services.
Surrender to Love ❤️ so glad to see the Boy's are back in town!
One word, AWESOME !!!!
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Star Wars was written after George Lucas read "The Science of Mind" by Earnest Holmes. May the force be with you!
Traveling Initiates are Listening. Definitely speaking from/ to heart coherence, on the ground. Producing in St. Louis. Spreading with Remembering the light IAm within! Great job Alex and John! ❤❤️❤️3:33
I was clapping and with you until you said your thoughts healed you. Did your thoughts suddenly change? Don't like making people feel even worse when the are sick. Just something to think about ❤
Love John!! I subscribe to his channel. Lots of great content. ❤❤
Thank you for this great podcast! I like John!
Amazing conversation and content! Very grateful 🙏♥️🙏
Love John and his energy ❤. Thank you for having him on ❤
You had me until you said you liked Star Wars better than Star Trek!
Talk to Kam Waters
John is my favorite apostle — his words shine with love and sincerity, reaching straight into my heart. He is truly the most authentic, reflecting Jesus’ message perfectly — which is really simple at its core: it’s all about Love, Compassion, Faith, the power of thought, the gift of healing, and inner Peace.
Even when I asked AI about the most authentic messenger of Jesus, the confirmation was John.
Heartfelt thanks to both of you for this beautiful interview — sending warm greetings and blessings from Slovenia ❤
1:28:30 Neo (The One) 😎
Cant explain infinity it just is❤
In unconditional love there is no judgment ❤
Best episode you've ever done ! Thank you!
Brilliantly put! Thank you guys! For the explanation of the 5d that has been basically HIJACKED. So refreshing ✌️
Beautiful… Thank you 🙏💜
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Not even all the way thru and it’s so Wonderful to hear this conversation that is unfolding – i so excited to be alive as the truths are revealed! Great job guys, always love listening to you both!
The veil between me and God is fear! Thank you! I needed to hear that clarification to feel His forgiveness even more deeply! 🥰😍🙏
19 people tell you the same thing really???
You both are such amazing human beings! I am so glad I found both of you because I am no longer afraid to be me! Thank you both for validating me and giving me the courage to research without guilt or fear!
Loved every moment ❤️
HEY JOHN ❤❤❤ I Have been following your content for years now love ❤❤ u ❤❤❤❤
Absolutely ! John 10. 33.35
Great Podcast!!!!! On spot.
October 16th new season of Ghost. If you haven't already, watch the British version which is what our version is based on. Both the US & the UK versions are great. 😂❤
I had great time with you Alex. Can't wait to do it again. The Force is with you.
If we are all ONE, then another person's past incarnation is yours as well. 🤔
I really enjoy you both together ❤️. Your personal dynamic is funny, warm, charming, goofy and lovely
oh yay! ❤ love when you bring on John 😊
Alex love your guest! Thank you!